Re: Some filtering and misc questions
Hallo The, On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 00:30:28 -0400GMT (30-8-02, 6:30 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RR 1) What if you don't want a message moved, just copied to another RR folder. It works fine by going under advanced options and selecting RR the folder to copy messages to, but I still have to select a folder on RR the main page. Do I just select the main inbox folder again? Yes. RR 2) So what I did was set up a filter and checked just the manual RR checkbox and set up a filter string of the e-mail addresses I want RR to filter. Then under the advanced tab I set the copy to folder RR option and selected the appropriate folder. How do I get this RR filter to now copy these messages manually? I tried right clicking RR on the folder and selecting filter and selected the manual filter RR only (plus checked all the types..read, etc.) but it doesn't work. Could the messages have triggered another filter first? RR 3) Does anyone know in a future version of the Bat do they plan on RR having the TO field addresses wrap on to new lines vs scrolling off to RR the right? You can do this right now, click on the little address book at the left of the To: box. RR 4) As a side note to the above it would also be nice of having a RR cleaner way to add a long filter string of OR type expressions vs RR having to type it all as one long line separated by carets (|). You could try the alternatives tab in the filter to add the other expressions. RR -- Your signature delimiter lacks something. It ought to be dash,dash,space,enter and yours is messed up in the space part. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some filtering and misc questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Rick Reumann [RR] wrote:' RR 1) What if you don't want a message moved, just copied to RR another folder. It works fine by going under advanced options RR and selecting the folder to copy messages to, but I still have RR to select a folder on the main page. Do I just select the main RR inbox folder again? Yes. If the source and target folders are the same, then the message will not be moved and the actions otherwise defined will be applied. RR This seems a little bit of an awkward UI design if that is the RR case. If you aren't really moving the message I don't think you RR should be forced to select a folder to move the message to. Yes. We've agreed on this on many occasions in the past. The filtering system will be redesigned. I don't think that design remain in the new interface. RR I just want to copy the messages with these certain RR people's e-mail addresses into a separate folder. So what I did RR was set up a filter and checked just the manual checkbox For the filter to work, you need to enable it by enabling the 'active' option under the 'rule' tab. RR and set up a filter string of the e-mail addresses I want to RR filter. How did you do this? I'd assume that you put one address in the filter string dialog under the 'rule' tab and then put the others as strings under the 'alternative' tab. RR Then under the advanced tab I set the copy to folder option and RR selected the appropriate folder. How do I get this filter to now RR copy these messages manually? I tried right clicking on the RR folder and selecting filter and selected the manual filter only RR (plus checked all the types..read, etc.) but it doesn't work. You need only check the filter set in which you created the filter. If it was an inbox filter then only enable inbox. RR I'm guessing that it only will filter on messages in the inbox? No. Once you apply the filter manually, it will work on any folder. RR I know I must just be screwing something up. I suspect it may be that you didn't set the filter to active or your string entry setup is faulty. RR 3) Does anyone know in a future version of the Bat do they plan RR on having the TO field addresses wrap on to new lines vs RR scrolling off to the right? I'd hope so. You're not the first to bring this up. I've personally brought it up, as well as others. Usually, if you make something like this known to the developers, it'll eventually be fixed ... just not necessarily later this week, or even next month. :) RR 4) As a side note to the above it would also be nice of having a RR cleaner way to add a long filter string of OR type expressions RR vs having to type it all as one long line separated by carets RR (|). Actually, you can. You could enable regular expressions under the options tab and use the format: (address1|address2|address3|address4|address5...) I also see this in the help: ,-[ begin ]- | | Pipe character | can be used when the signal string contains two | alternatives. For example, string John|Jack means that the filter | will search for John OR Jack in the specified location. If either is | present, the search is successful. If neither are present, the | search fails. | '-[ end ]-|| I don't know if it will only for two alternatives or if you can string them along as I have done with the initial method above. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9b1RRV8nrYCsHF+IRAnOLAJwJzQ/baXVZUhQ+D6EXSZWYNvK7UwCg0aKl sCwQjzennNaBcIOmTeA+VUQ= =194A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some filtering and misc questions
Hi Allie, On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 06:17:36 -0500 GMT (Aug 30, 17:02 my local time), you [ACM] wrote: ACM I don't know if it will only for two alternatives or if you can ACM string them along as I have done with the initial method above. It does work. I use 'TBUDL|TBTECH|TBOT' string to play a sound to announce the replies made to my messages :) -- Be well, Sudip Pokhrel Sudip Kathmandu-NP. ___PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| http://pgpkeys.mit.edu P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| _.. I see... said the blind man. I saw... said the carpenter Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Some filtering and misc questions
On Friday, August 30, 2002, 7:17:36 AM, Allie wrote: ACM For the filter to work, you need to enable it by enabling the ACM 'active' option under the 'rule' tab. Wouldn't this then mean that this filter is always active? Oh, I see, if I check both active and manual..it means.. Yes, you can use this filter, but use it only manually. I'm sure that's the problem I didn't have active checked. Thanks. ACM You could enable regular expressions under the options tab and use ACM the format: ACM (address1|address2|address3|address4|address5...) Actually that's how I am doing it now, but was wondering if there was an alternative way to set up ORs. Its very difficult at a glance to see how that filter string is set up. I usually have to copy and paste it into smart bat or some editor in order to see how I have it set up. It would be nice to just see a list of addresses in a filter dialog somehow. Thanks for the help, I'm sure just setting the filter to active will do the trick. -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Some filtering and misc questions
On Friday, August 30, 2002, 4:23:02 AM, Roelof wrote: RO You can do this right now, click on the little address book at the RO left of the To: box. Actually, that's what I'm trying to avoid. I'd like to not have to go over and click on the address book in order to insert people. I find it much faster if I just start typing their names and autocompleting but it get's very difficult to do when you can't see the addresses that are scrolling off to the right. RO Your signature delimiter lacks something. It ought to be RO dash,dash,space,enter and yours is messed up in the space part. Could you see if this is signature delimater is working correctly? I thought I had this set up correctly with a space after the two dashes. -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some filtering and misc questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Rick Reumann [RR] wrote:' ACM (address1|address2|address3|address4|address5...) RR Actually that's how I am doing it now, but was wondering if RR there was an alternative way to set up ORs. Its very difficult RR at a glance to see how that filter string is set up. I usually RR have to copy and paste it into smart bat or some editor in order RR to see how I have it set up. It would be nice to just see a list RR of addresses in a filter dialog somehow. The alternative tab does this. It's easier to follow and maintain if it's just a matter of adding an e-mail address now and then. :)) RR Thanks for the help, I'm sure just setting the filter to active RR will do the trick. Yes. :) It would never work without that. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9b8Z3V8nrYCsHF+IRArCYAKDCAqEpzAOaJ3RQyLWJ7rtZJW+BpwCgvWHt xgunKiXB4n7HoGOBvja6aws= =kJ7C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some filtering and misc questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Rick Reumann [RR] wrote:' RR Could you see if this is signature delimater is working RR correctly? I thought I had this set up correctly with a space RR after the two dashes. It works OK. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta1 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9b8a2V8nrYCsHF+IRAsGaAKC2KBWgx+xFLn6iqfEL82FAy9SYIQCdFnX7 +paFUdcQcU91hyRYJOesPMg= =hv/c -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some filtering and misc questions
Hi Allie, On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 14:25:42 -0500 GMT (Aug 31, 01:10 my local time), you [ACM] wrote: ACM It works OK. but yours doesn't ;) Why do you reckon the OpenPGP developers have not addressed this issue? What are the technical constraints? -- Be Well, Sudip Pokhrel Sudip Kathmandu-NP. ___PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| http://pgpkeys.mit.edu P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| _.. Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some filtering and misc questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, August 30, 2002, Sudip Pokhrel wrote... Hi Allie, On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 14:25:42 -0500 GMT (Aug 31, 01:10 my local time), you [ACM] wrote: ACM It works OK. but yours doesn't ;) Why do you reckon the OpenPGP developers have not addressed this issue? What are the technical constraints? PGP uses the -- as a start of it's delimiters to match things, such as - - begin signature etc. If PGP comes across a signature delimiter in an email, it needs to break it so it doesn't try using that as a break point when reading it on the other side. There is a QT on the FAQ website that handles the - -- signature, along with a couple of other ones. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPW/PcSuD6BT4/R9zEQKIpACfSvrjAojxldwIUP8Yd+peS5EHci8AoK/7 ORfF6+O9lawMXibUc4RwwZaT =FT9J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some filtering and misc questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Sudip Pokhrel [SP] wrote:' SP but yours doesn't ;) Yeah, I know. :( SP Why do you reckon the OpenPGP developers have not addressed this SP issue? What are the technical constraints? They need to be able to identify two or more consecutive dashes at the beginning of a line as not being a part of the signature hash. The only way to do this would be to escape them so I don't see a solution. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta3 Windows XP Pro List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9b9JTV8nrYCsHF+IRAlx+AJ4iACrE1rK0Dc0Je8u5WIC3Wg2JVACg3+Zm 4fsseV3qJMKHgv4aW84M+Lk= =3tjz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Some filtering and misc questions
Bat List Members, Few questions/comments: 1) What if you don't want a message moved, just copied to another folder. It works fine by going under advanced options and selecting the folder to copy messages to, but I still have to select a folder on the main page. Do I just select the main inbox folder again? This seems a little bit of an awkward UI design if that is the case. If you aren't really moving the message I don't think you should be forced to select a folder to move the message to. 2) Before I describe how I'm doing it, let me describe what I am trying to accomplish. I have a mailing list that I'm on that gets all the messages filtered to an appropriate folder. No problem there. Now, like most list there are several gurus on the list that are very helpful. This list is a very high traffic list and if several days go by where I don't get to check the list, I'd like to at least filter out from that folder all the 'gurus' responses to messages and at least read them. To do this I don't want to move the messages I just want to copy the messages with these certain people's e-mail addresses into a separate folder. So what I did was set up a filter and checked just the manual checkbox and set up a filter string of the e-mail addresses I want to filter. Then under the advanced tab I set the copy to folder option and selected the appropriate folder. How do I get this filter to now copy these messages manually? I tried right clicking on the folder and selecting filter and selected the manual filter only (plus checked all the types..read, etc.) but it doesn't work. I'm guessing that it only will filter on messages in the inbox? I know I must just be screwing something up. 3) Does anyone know in a future version of the Bat do they plan on having the TO field addresses wrap on to new lines vs scrolling off to the right? I often start out typing someone's name and having autocomplete fill out the rest but after two or three addresses I then have to go up and make sure I'm adding the correct addresses. It would be so nice to see the addresses wrap on to a new line or at the least keep scrolling to the right as you add them. 4) As a side note to the above it would also be nice of having a cleaner way to add a long filter string of OR type expressions vs having to type it all as one long line separated by carets (|). Thanks for any help comments. -- Rick Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
