Re: Ticker Lifted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paula, On 12 December 2001 at 00:45:11 [GMT-0500] (which was 05:45 where I live) PFord wrote to Maurice Snellen and made these points: I don't know how long The Bat! and its MailTicker have been around, but if I remember correctly, GroupWise didn't have the Marquee as it is called until somewhere in the 5.x versions. P The Marquee was new to GW 5.5, released 9/98. I've been using The P Bat since v.1.00.95, about 327 updates ago. My recollection is that P the Mail Ticker was added in one of the 1.1x versions after GW 5.5, P because I recall thinking at the time that it wasn't unique, but P I could be wrong. Maybe some enterprising Novell programmer crooked P the idea from a little known company in Moldavia. :) Could be a new P source of revenue for RIT Labs. My archives contain this message I sent to another discussion list: Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:50:58 + X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.00 Build 1336) UNREG I had, that day, discovered this great new email app which included this really clever ticker. It's always been there AFAICS and predates the Novell ticker. This is the only message using an UNREG version, because I registered TB on the same day. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / ' TB! v1.54 Beta/15-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE8FzUIOeQkq5KdzaARAs1zAKCdfifnx/zMdMGBFHPW9BpiQkRTqwCfenFn XGYr7eTMjEYYJcjzfogAQNw= =V4w6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
On 11 Dec 2001, at 01:26:58 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:26 where I live) PFord wrote: P Although RIT Labs claims that the Mail Ticker is unique, Novell's P Groupwise has a utility that is virtually identical, at least in the P early incarnations of the Mail Ticker, which predates The Bat. Are you sure? I don't know how long The Bat! and its MailTicker have been around, but if I remember correctly, GroupWise didn't have the Marquee as it is called until somewhere in the 5.x versions. -- Greetings, Maurice ICQ: 15724776 | WWW: http://www.kiap.org/ Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
On December 11, 2001, Maurice Snellen wrote: On 11 Dec 2001, at 01:26:58 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:26 where I live) PFord wrote: P Although RIT Labs claims that the Mail Ticker is unique, Novell's P Groupwise has a utility that is virtually identical, at least in the P early incarnations of the Mail Ticker, which predates The Bat. Are you sure? I'm never sure about anything. I don't know how long The Bat! and its MailTicker have been around, but if I remember correctly, GroupWise didn't have the Marquee as it is called until somewhere in the 5.x versions. The Marquee was new to GW 5.5, released 9/98. I've been using The Bat since v.1.00.95, about 327 updates ago. My recollection is that the Mail Ticker was added in one of the 1.1x versions after GW 5.5, because I recall thinking at the time that it wasn't unique, but I could be wrong. Maybe some enterprising Novell programmer crooked the idea from a little known company in Moldavia. :) Could be a new source of revenue for RIT Labs. -- PFord The Bat! 1.53d (reg) Windows 98 4.10 Build -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
On December 09, 2001, Nick Danger wrote: This little app here: http://www.tickermymail.com/ sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! Although RIT Labs claims that the Mail Ticker is unique, Novell's Groupwise has a utility that is virtually identical, at least in the early incarnations of the Mail Ticker, which predates The Bat. If The Bat flew high enough to register on Novell's radar screen, they might object. :) -- PFord The Bat! 1.53d (reg) Windows 98 4.10 Build -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Ticker Lifted?
This little app here: http://www.tickermymail.com/ sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! -- ò¸ó Nick Danger -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, On 09 December 2001 at 06:56:54 [GMT-0600] (which was 12:56 where I live) Nick Danger wrote to The Bat! User List and made these points: ND This little app here: ND http://www.tickermymail.com/ ND sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! That's disgraceful! What a rip-off! It is a pixel-for-pixel copy. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / ' TB! v1.54 Beta/15-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE8E2JTOeQkq5KdzaARAs1JAKC8gtCK+Ai6gEG7vv67H+FQV6DLnACeIkoP flIhWOZKfm6D2/W2wpyz3f4= =HOGf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Ticker Lifted?
Hello Marck, 09. december 2001, 14:08:33, you wrote: ND This little app here: ND http://www.tickermymail.com/ ND sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! MDP That's disgraceful! What a rip-off! It is a pixel-for-pixel copy. Didn't RitLabs copyright their MailTicker? -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] No amount of genius can overcome a preoccupation with detail. -- Levy's Eighth Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
Dear Marck, --- Marck D Pearlstone / Sonntag, 09.12.01, 14:08:33 Ticker Lifted? ND http://www.tickermymail.com/ ND sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! That's disgraceful! What a rip-off! It is a pixel-for-pixel copy. I don't know about the UK but here in Germany I've heard of a law that this one gets the rights who has being on the market before (proven) even if not (c). Hope RITLABS will take this on. -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.53t under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
In a message dated, Sun, 9 Dec 2001 13:08:33 +, Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote: ... ND http://www.tickermymail.com/ ND sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! MDP That's disgraceful! What a rip-off! It is a pixel-for-pixel copy. Indeed. I'm in shock. It's unscrupulous. :-( -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Ticker Lifted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jernej On 09 December 2001 at 14:16:32 +0100 (which was 13:16 where I live) Jernej Simoni emanated these words of wisdom ND http://www.tickermymail.com/ ND sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! MDP That's disgraceful! What a rip-off! It is a pixel-for-pixel copy. JS Didn't RitLabs copyright their MailTicker? It is trade marked (according to the website). - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.54/9/iKey1000 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | ** - Tribbles o= o= - Tribbles listening to MTV| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG Signed, sealed, delivered. iD8DBQE8E2y2+Yrx5mUPRTQRAtOMAKDrBZPUM1JZ/bU5jXAG9Vvaw9OlCACfW/PB ldQ6vYflJGsTyl0guRgr8J0= =SV9P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[4]: Ticker Lifted?
Sunday, December 09, 2001, David Elliott In Regards to Ticker Lifted? DE It is trade marked (according to the website). Hahaha, what a rip-off. Regards, Kevin Conlin -- Kevin Conlin. http://www.DarkServ.Net BT Operator - UK Running The Bat 1.53t on Windows NT 5.0 -- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, You wrote on 12/9/2001, 2:08 PM: ND http://www.tickermymail.com/ ND sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! Marck That's disgraceful! What a rip-off! It is a pixel-for-pixel copy. I hope someone already contacted RIT about this. (Who knows, maybe they licensed it from them?) http://www.tickermymail.com/en/guestbook.cfm - -- Cheers, SyP If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt build 5 iQA/AwUBPBNvZtkgnrcJiuwTEQIBJQCcCFmNP9HTYGPDvVDI+RXiIIMuQesAnA9d mGF2VMvw3qJ+a4UuGtlNkUtP =8HU8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, I wrote on 12/9/2001, 4:04 PM: SyP http://www.tickermymail.com/en/guestbook.cfm They instantly deleted my entry... - -- Cheers, SyP Pluto Neptune Uranus Saturn Jupiter Mars Earth Venus Mercury Sun . o o o O . . . ./\ ^ \/ -- You are here -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt build 5 iQA/AwUBPBNwFNkgnrcJiuwTEQJmrACeL9W4wvUHZjs1RqW7raJRJC0dpGsAn1xF XXFV/+XZMdHea1/682Se7szJ =aQlR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello SyP On 09 December 2001 at 16:04:18 +0100 (which was 15:04 where I live) SyP wrote S http://www.tickermymail.com/en/guestbook.cfm I did think about this but I would wait until I had seen a comment from RIT first. - -- Good Bye, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.54/9/iKey1000 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Spoken like a true bean counter. - Chumley| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG Signed, sealed, delivered. iD8DBQE8E36u+Yrx5mUPRTQRAvnqAKCJAxzeTMoSd0eeUx1jM3cLUVFALACggy7K dAxc3dWpHWMl8uP/iu9Kgy4= =9XDC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
On 9 December 2001 at 12:56 pm Nick wrote: This little app here: http://www.tickermymail.com/ sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB! On a second line of attack I had a look at the Association of Shareware Professionals' site (of which the author of that program is a member) and, in particular, its membership standards: http://www.asp-shareware.org/memberstandards.asp Incredibly, there appears to be no requirement that any product being sold by a member is original! In fact, the whole statement is extremely short and doesn't have the tiresome (but crucial) preamble that defines terms like shareware. Alastair -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:43:49 +0100GMT (which was 18:43 +0100GMT where I live), Peter Palmreuther thought about Ticker Lifted? and wrote: SyP http://www.tickermymail.com/en/guestbook.cfm S They instantly deleted my entry... PP Seems he changed the form in a way no further 'comments' are possible PP .. what did not avoid me from making one *GGG* Hi Pit, they did not accept a reply to your post. I got a 404 error instead. I had to fire up Netscape to get there... Opera was not accepted... This only fits ;-( -- Cheers Peter -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
Hello Peter, On 9 Dec 2001 at 18:57:04 you wrote (at least in part): PM Hi Pit, they did not accept a reply to your post. I got a 404 error PM instead. I had to fire up Netscape to get there... Opera was not PM accepted... This only fits ;-( That's what I got too. But I found a work-around :-) Nevertheless, seems it is working correctly again right now, I posted a comment (btw: using Opera) and after this I noticed he's now telling what TB! is plus what's the difference between his program and TB! plus a link to RIT :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/14 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. (Albert Einst -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Ticker Lifted?
Bonjour SyP, Dimanche, le 9 décembre 2001 à 16h07 [GMT +0100] (ce qui correspond à 16h07 ici où j'habite), Syp =[S] a écrit à Szabolcs Péter on TBUDL : SyP http://www.tickermymail.com/en/guestbook.cfm S They instantly deleted my entry... And all message from us are been deleted An now there are new posts from moderator (I think) . But it's in german, and my german is very poor ;-) And there are a new note (in english) : = Note: Ritlabs The Bat! is a full-featured email-client, which is highly recommended to use. TickerMyMail is for people who are using webmail-accounts or standard email-client. It does not include functions to read or write mails, but only show a ticker when new mails arrive. = -- Bien à vous, Alexis Haeringer mailto:ginkyo[arobase]gmx.fr (alias ginkyo) Ma clef PGP : mailto:pgp1[arobase]ginkyo.org -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
