Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-19 Thread Hanspeter Schaffner

Hello Thomas,

> I figure from the lists that TB's back-up function now works fine.

I can confirm.

> However, I have never done a Restore yet.

LOL I tried it from last Monday until Wednesday. There was _never
anything_ restored; not even any error messages. Only that I could
never close the - hmmm Wartungs - assistent properly.

-- 

TIA, Regards

Hanspeter

The Bat! v1.53t unter Windows NT
5.1 Build 2600 



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-19 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Thomas,

On Friday, July 19, 2002 at 8:21:41 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

Acc>> Even if downloaded by a different computer on the network?

TF> No, only messages that are received by *this* computer are not
TF> downloaded again onto *this* computer.

I was not able to follow the whole discussion, but did I understood
correctly:

1.) The Desktop should get and keep all mail.
2.) The Laptop should only get mail the Desktop did not fetch yet.

???

If so: setting up the Laptop to leave messages on server an the Desktop to
normally delete them would be the solution.
When fetching mail from Desktop the mailbox is cleared, when connecting
with the Laptop only 'new' messages are fetched.
No network drive needed, nothing mysterious to 'work around'.
No one could set folders in Laptop to 'Keep messages in base for (days)' to
e.g. 14 and with a regular 'Purge and Compress' one would not even have to
care about deleting messages from Laptop 

Or did I missed the point completely
-- 
Regards
Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2)

One who objects to being a sex object, probably isn't.



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Avram,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:17:26 -0500 GMT (19/07/02, 02:17 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Acc> Without rekeying the entire response, the gist regarding reply formats is that
Acc> since "top replies" are the norm at my office and I had not used TBUDL all that
Acc> much until very recently, I had forgotten the rule about not using "top replies"
Acc> and apologized for not following TB protocol.

Thanks, I appreciate your effort. Please note that we had a lengthy
disucssion about top-quotes here only recently, and it is generally
agreed that inline-quoting makes more sense on a list like this
(that's the reason for the rule), while I agree with you that in
*some* business environments, full quotes at the bottom may make
sense.

Acc> More to the point, at the office, we use Lotus Notes, and, as far
Acc> as I know there is no protocol for automatically inserting quote
Acc> marks, carrets, or any other symbol before lines of "old text" in
Acc> a reply.

A reason to change to a better email program?

Acc> Thus, in order to respond in the format preferred by The Bat's
Acc> UDL rules, one has to go through the tedious task of inserting a
Acc> carret before each line of old text. However, one solution is for
Acc> me to use a different color "pen" as I am doing in this sentence.
Acc> However, I am not sure that all recipients would see this
Acc> formatting.

No, I don't see your colours. Do you have the possibility of using TB
for this list and Lotus Notes for office mail? (Assuming that for some
reason you cannot use TB for office mail.)

Acc> As for the substantive part of the message:

>>> what if the laptop user downloads a second time before the desktop
>>> user has a chance to download

>>Nothing. Each user will only download once.

Acc> But I only want mail to be stored on one computer...the desktop.  Hard drive
Acc> real estate on the laptop is more precious and I don't want to store mail on it.

I see. Your situation is slightly different from what I thought.

>>There is a mechanism to ensure this. Already received messages are
>>ignored.

Acc> Even if downloaded by a different computer on the network?

No, only messages that are received by *this* computer are not
downloaded again onto *this* computer.

>>Set both systems to keep on server for 2 days and it will all tick along very
Acc> nicely
>>(unless one of the systems misses a mail fetch for more than two days)

Acc> This is likely.  The desktop will download daily or every two days.  The laptop
Acc> may go for 1-10 days before it's used to read mail.

If your laptop connects to the LAN, you might want to store the mail
on a network drive, as someone else has suggested. Otherwise, if your
laptop is mobile and you need to connect via the internet, this sounds
like a case for IMAP to me.

>>1) Configure TB in client / server mode. This is not a very well known
>>   or practiced configuration but is *is* in the help file.

Acc> Please explain what it means to "configure TB in client/server mode.  Thanks.

Help / Topics / Server / The Bat! Networking Course

Acc> 2) Configure TB to use a shared path on the network as the root for
Acc>the MAIL folder and work on the same real files.

Acc> How does one configure TB to use a shared path on the network?

I would think you just point to it under Account / Properties / Files
& Directories.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

Sign in a London department store: BARGAIN BASEMENT UPSTAIRS

Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1
under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build  A 
using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re[2]: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Mark Wieder

I believe you need to map a drive rather than a use a UNC. I mapped an
M: (for mail) drive on my system. Then, as has been explained several
times here, you can edit the registry entry on the machine that
doesn't store the files.

Acc> alternatives.  How does one configure TB to use a shared path on the network?

-Mark Wieder

 Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],

@18 July 2002, 12:32 -0500 (18:32 UK time)  [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>> Alternatively to the "leave on server" scheme:

>> 1) Configure TB in client / server mode. This is not a very well known
>>or practiced configuration but is *is* in the help file.

> Can you explain to a neophyte (me) what this means?  Thanks.

I can't. I have never used it in this mode. All the help there is for
this right now is what's in the help file as Adam pointed out in one
of his postings.

> 2) Configure TB to use a shared path on the network as the root for
>the MAIL folder and work on the same real files.

> I BELIEVE SOMEONE ELSE SUGGESTED THIS AS WELL. WHEN I GET AROUND TO
> DOING THIS IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, I THINK IT LIKELY THAT I WILL TRY
> ONE OF THESE ALTERNATIVES. HOW IS THE CONFIGURATION DONE?

Adam explained that in detail in an earlier reply to you:

,-=[ Adam said: ]-
Make sure both machines on the network can currently share files.
Probably make sure both machines run the same version of TB; but I
don't know if that matters.  Make sure you are happy with the account
structure with your mails. Now install TB on the second machine
normally, if you haven't already.

Run REGEDIT on first machine.  Export the following registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

Since you have the same Windows OSs on each machine, that should be
simple.  Make sure your second machine can access that exported file.
Without openning TB, on the second machine, import that registry key.
Now while you are still running Regedit, go to that registry section,
and advance to Working Directory.  Enter here the path to the mail
directory on the first machine. You could cut and paste from Windows
Explorer or whatever.  Quit Regedit.  And I think you can run TB now.

This should work fine!

If it didn't work, go back and make sure you had set the original Mail
directory to be shared Full, not Read only.

There is some delay accessing big folders from the second machine. You
might be able to alleviate that if you know how to write scripts (I
don't really).
`

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2
'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000)

iD8DBQE9N0JROeQkq5KdzaARAk/hAKCYfaTVPF0NuqNp9t9244o3mCoPaACcDAf2
hTt0l5giMVqOee4QxLKxqFs=
=Mwj1
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Avram_Sacks



>Thomas F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/18/2002 01:00 PM:
>Kindly resend your message in a readable form. Thank you.

Without rekeying the entire response, the gist regarding reply formats is that
since "top replies" are the norm at my office and I had not used TBUDL all that
much until very recently, I had forgotten the rule about not using "top replies"
and apologized for not following TB protocol. More to the point, at the office,
we use Lotus Notes, and, as far as I know there is no protocol for automatically
inserting quote marks, carrets, or any other symbol before lines of "old text"
in a reply.  Thus, in order to respond in the format preferred by The Bat's UDL
rules, one has to go through the tedious task of inserting a carret before each
line of old text.  However, one solution is for me to use a different color
"pen" as I am doing in this sentence.  However, I am not sure that all
recipients would see this formatting.

As for the substantive part of the message:

 How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network ...

>>> ... you can set up BAT that it downloads the mail, but it leaves on
>>> the server. ...  Another alternative is you keep the mail on the
>>> server for 1 or 2 days.
>
>Correct.

>> what if the laptop user downloads a second time before the desktop
>> user has a chance to download
>Nothing. Each user will only download once.

But I only want mail to be stored on one computer...the desktop.  Hard drive
real estate on the laptop is more precious and I don't want to store mail on it.

>There is a mechanism to
>ensure this. Already received messages are ignored.

Even if downloaded by a different computer on the network?

>Set both systems to keep on server for 2 days and it will all tick along very
nicely
>(unless one of the systems misses a mail fetch for more than two days)

This is likely.  The desktop will download daily or every two days.  The laptop
may go for 1-10 days before it's used to read mail.


>> I didn't ask the question, but I would also like to insure that any
>> mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on the
>> main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop. This way, all mail
>> is in one place and readily accessible.
>
>BCC it back to yourself.


But, again, I only want mail to be in one place, on the desktop.

>Alternatively to the "leave on server" scheme:

>1) Configure TB in client / server mode. This is not a very well known
>   or practiced configuration but is *is* in the help file.

Please explain what it means to "configure TB in client/server mode.  Thanks.

2) Configure TB to use a shared path on the network as the root for
   the MAIL folder and work on the same real files.

I believe someone else suggested this as well.  When I get around to doing this
in the next few weeks, I think it is likely that I will try one of these
alternatives.  How does one configure TB to use a shared path on the network?

--
Avi
Avram Sacks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 8:00:45 PM you wrote:

> Kindly resend your message in a readable form. Thank you.

The problem is, he is currently using Lotus Notes, which doesn't use
quote markers. It also inserts those stupid boxes Marck complained
about (rightfully).

>From my experience - luckily only with computer savvy people having to
use Lotus Notes - this is not easily remedied.



-- 
Dierk Haasis
http://www.Write4U.de
http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo

PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys

The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C

There are two infinite things, the universe and human stupidity, but
I'm not quite sure about the universe yet. (Albert Einstein)



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Avram,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:32:04 -0500 GMT (19/07/02, 00:32 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Acc> only) to distinguish them from the old text, but, I am *not* shouting.

Kindly resend your message in a readable form. Thank you.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

"Love will find you, even if you are trying to hide from it. I've been
trying to hide from it since I was five, but the girls keep finding
me." (Bobby, 8)

Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1
under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build  A 
using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Avram_Sacks



>Allie C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>07/18/2002 04:34 AM
>
>Hanspeter Schaffner [HS] wrote:
>
>HS> Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not
>HS> Enter the path to the mail-directory in the account options?
>
>If the accounts have already been created and you wish to move them to
>another location, you do it the way you're proposing. However, if you
>have a fresh installation with no accounts defined and you wish the
>new installation to use the same working directory as another
>installation, it's best to do so from the registry. In this way the
>fresh installation will think that it always used this mail directory
>and will simply use it.


Ok.  So what happens when one  inserts the registry key on to computer B?  Is
computer B using the directory on computer A or is there an exact duplicate of
the directory on computer B?
--
Avi
Avram Sacks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Allie,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:34:34 -0500 GMT (18/07/02, 16:34 +0700 GMT),
Allie C Martin wrote:

HS>> Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not
HS>> Enter the path to the mail-directory in the account options?

ACM> If the accounts have already been created and you wish to move them to
ACM> another location, you do it the way you're proposing.

I have started using the backup function in TB, rather than my manual
back-up. I figure from the lists that TB's back-up function now works
fine.

However, I have never done a Restore yet. I am led to believe that you
are asked which directory you want the accounts to be restored to.
Isn't that so? If it is, wouldn't this be a solution to the problem?

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

Comparisons are as bad as cliches.

Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1
under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build  A 
using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Hanspeter,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:53:34 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 14:53 +0700 GMT),
Hanspeter Schaffner wrote:

HS> If I have to check for mail from elsewhere with my laptop I copy the
HS> BestCrypt container containing the whole mail directory on the laptop
HS> and mount it with the same drive letter as it has in the network. So
HS> TB should not notice any difference - I hope. :-)

HS> Shouldn't that work?

Yes, it should. If you want to carry the thing around with you and
mount/dismount it every time.

I used the method of leaving mail on server for 2 days and BCC'ing
myself in on outgoing messages, when I had two computers which both
needed to be kept updated. Of course, in the office I was on the LAN
and at home at broadband/flatrate, so additional downloads didn't
matter. ;-)

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

Mental backup in progress - Do Not Disturb!

Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1
under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build  A 
using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Avram_Sacks



Hi, Marck.  See my comments below.   They are in capital letters (this message
only) to distinguish them from the old text, but, I am *not* shouting.



|+>
||  Marck D   |
||  Pearlstone|
||  |
|||
||  07/17/2002|
||  05:39 PM  |
||  Please respond|
||  to tbudl  |
|||
|+>
  >|
  ||
  |  To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBUDL"|
  |   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@SMTP@cchntmsd |
  |  cc:   |
  |  Subject:     Re: downloading e-mail on home       |
  |       network to computer A using  computer B  |
  >|





First things first. Avram. That was an excellent example of how *Nnot*
to write a reply on this list.

Top quoting - a nono.
Too much quoting - a nono.

PLEASE ACCEPT MY APOLOGIES.  THE RULES MAKE SENSE.  THE REASON IT HAPPENED THIS
TIME IS THAT I AM ON A NUMBER OF LISTS AND THIS IS THE ONLY ONE FOR WHICH THIS
IS A HARD RULE, AND, UNTIL RECENTLY, HADN'T USED THE LIST SO MUCH.  ALSO, WHEN I
AM AT THE OFFICE, TOP QUOTING FOR INTERNAL MAIL IS THE NORM, SO I FORGET WHEN I
AM RESPONDING TO OUTSIDE MAIL.  AFTER THIS NOTE,  I WILL CUT AND PASTE AND
INSERT QUOTES (WHICH I WILL HAVE TO DO MANUALLY--SEE BELOW)

You're using the "Outlook" standard reply format, one that I find
awful (but I'm feeling more like Canute by the day on that score). It
is called "top quoting" and means that you let the quotes appear at
the bottom and type your reply at the top.

AT THE OFFICE, I AM ACTUALLY USING LOTUS NOTES.  UNLIKE THE BAT, LOTUS PUTS THE
OLD MESSAGE AT THE BOTTOM AND DOES NOT PUT QUOTES, CARRETS, OR ANY OTHER
IDENTIFYING MATERIAL IN FRONT OF THE LINES OF THE OLD MESSAGE.  THUS, IF ONE
RESPONDS BY INTERSPERSING COMMENTS, AS I AM NOW DOING, UNLESS ONE WERE TO GO
THROUGH THE TEDIOUS EXERCISE OF PLACING A QUOTE MARK BEFORE EACH LINE OR CUTTING
AND PASTING (AND STILL INSERTING QUOTATION MARKS), USING CAPITAL LETTERS, AS I
AM NOW DOING, IS THE ONLY WAY TO DISTINGUISH OLD MATERIAL FROM NEW MATERIAL.  OF
COURSE, THIS ONLY WORKS ONCE AND I KNOW THAT ORDINARILY, CAPS HAVE A GRATING
EFFECT ON A FAIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE.  I COULD ALSO USE A DIFFERENT COLOR PEN.  EG,
THIS SENTENCE IS WRITTEN IN BLUE.  HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF NON-LOTUS USERS CAN
SEE THE FORMATTING CHANGE. However, if this can be seen by all users, then this
is probably the most expedient way to respond without inserting quotes or using
caps.

I have many reasons to *not* prefer the "top quoting" method:

[SNIP]

I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOUR POINTS, BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVE
SUGGESTIONS, IT IS A PAIN TO HAVE TO INSERT QUOTE MARKS BEFORE EACH
LINE--ALTHOUGH I DO DO IT OFTEN ENOUGH

[SNIP]

Now - to business:

AS>>> How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network ...

>> ... you can set up BAT that it downloads the mail, but it leaves on
>> the server. ...  Another alternative is you keep the mail on the
>> server for 1 or 2 days.

Correct.

> what if the laptop user downloads a second time before the desktop
> user has a chance to download?

Nothing. Each user will only download once.

BUT I ONLY WANT MAIL TO BE STORED ON ONE COMPUTER...THE DESKTOP.  HARD DRIVE
REAL ESTATE ON THE LAPTOP IS MORE PRECIOUS AND  I DONT WANT TO STORE MAIL ON IT.
There is a mechanism to
ensure this. Already received messages are ignored.

EVEN IF DOWNLOADED BY A DIFFERENT COMPUTER ON THE NETWORK?
 Set both systems
to keep on server for 2 days and it will all tick along very nicely
(unless one of the systems misses a mail fetch for more than two days)

WHICH IS LIKELY. ITS MORE LIKELY THAT THE DESKTOP WILL DOWNLOAD DAILY OR EVERY
TWO DAYS.  THE LAPTOP MAY GO FOR ANYWHERE FROM 1-10 DAYS BEFORE IT'S USED TO
READ MAIL.

> I didn't ask the question, but I would also like to insure that any
> mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on the
> main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop. This way, all mail
> is in one place and readily accessible.

BCC it back to yourself.

BUT AGAIN, I ONLY WANT MAIL IN ONE PLACE, ON THE DESKTOP

Alternatively to the "leave on server" scheme:

1) Configure TB in client / server mode. This is not a very well known
   or practiced configuration but is *is* in the help file.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO A NEOPHYTE (ME) WHAT THIS MEANS?  THANKS.

2) Configure TB to use a shared path on the network as the root for
   the MAIL folder and work on the same real files.

I BELIEVE SOMEONE ELSE SU

Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Adam

Hello Mark,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 1:42:19 AM, you wrote:

MW> Right. This is how mine is setup. One machine runs TB in TCP/IP server
MW> mode and the others work in workstation mode with their mail storage
MW> on the server machine.

There was nothing I read in The Bat Networking that referred to
sharing.  Ok, wait now, sorta, though hard to follow.  Well, I think
it just passes from server to client, and that is it.

The basic function it was providing, it said:

'The Bat! can work either as a stand-alone program or as a replacement
for a mail (POP/SMTP) server within a local network (e.g. Windows
Workgroup, Windows NT Domain or Novell Netware) at the same time as
providing the client part. There are three network modes in which The
Bat! can function: stand-alone (TCP/IP Workstation), server (TCP/IP or
Dial-Out Server )or client (Non-TCP/IP Workstation).'

And later I read this part:

'TCP/IP or Dial-out Server: the  server
mode

It is possible that client computers in a local network have no access
to the Internet or that there are some restrictions in force that
prevent these computers from using mail transfer protocols. In order
to provide users of such machines with E-Mail exchange facilities
within the Internet and/or the corporate network, there must be a mail
(POP/SMTP) server within the workgroup or domain.'

With no connection to the Internet, there is no connection, this made
no sense to have a connection when there was none.  The whole purpose
of this particular setup seems to be encapsulated above, and therefore
very hard to fathom why to use that.

-- 
Best regards,
 Adam



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Hanspeter,
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:15:01 +0200, you wrote:

> Hello Adam,
> 
> > Run REGEDIT on first machine.  Export the following registry key:
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!
> 
> > Since you have the same Windows OSs on each machine, that should be
> > simple.  Make sure your second machine can access that exported file.
> > Without openning TB, on the second machine, import that registry key.
> > Now while you are still running Regedit, go to that registry section,
> > and advance to Working Directory.  Enter here the path to the mail
> > directory on the first machine. You could cut and paste from Windows
> > Explorer or whatever.  Quit Regedit.  And I think you can run TB now.
> 
> Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not Enter
> the path to the mail-directory in the account options?


I think because if you just tried to move the files via the path in the
mail-directory settings, it moves the local files to the new location,
overwriting whatever is there (I guess).  And if you already have mail files
there, say good bye to them ;)  Where as if you just change the registry entry,
it updates it nice and easily, and stops TB! from moving files about.

-- 
Jonathan Angliss
([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Allie C Martin

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hanspeter Schaffner [HS] wrote:

HS> Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not
HS> Enter the path to the mail-directory in the account options?

If the accounts have already been created and you wish to move them to
another location, you do it the way you're proposing. However, if you
have a fresh installation with no accounts defined and you wish the
new installation to use the same working directory as another
installation, it's best to do so from the registry. In this way the
fresh installation will think that it always used this mail directory
and will simply use it.

- --
 -=Allie C Martin=-
List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro
PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2
_
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

iEYEARECAAYFAj02i6oACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KZnACfftZJ37YQYIpL2MNVXlXZRcVC
Uk0AnjcZWeTyzHYmVMm0WVnnsem68ER9
=ifkQ
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Hanspeter Schaffner

Hello Adam,

> Run REGEDIT on first machine.  Export the following registry key:
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

> Since you have the same Windows OSs on each machine, that should be
> simple.  Make sure your second machine can access that exported file.
> Without openning TB, on the second machine, import that registry key.
> Now while you are still running Regedit, go to that registry section,
> and advance to Working Directory.  Enter here the path to the mail
> directory on the first machine. You could cut and paste from Windows
> Explorer or whatever.  Quit Regedit.  And I think you can run TB now.

Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not Enter
the path to the mail-directory in the account options?

-- 

TIA, Regards

Hanspeter

The Bat! v1.53t unter Windows 95
4.0 Build   B



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Hanspeter Schaffner

Hello Avram,

> No, what I would like to do is to be able to insure that all mail
> gets downloaded on to one drive and is read on that drive.   I
> didn't ask the question, but I would also like to insure that any
> mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on the
> main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop.  This way, all mail
> is in one place and readily accessible.

I'm trying to realize exactly the same thing - only that noone else
but me is using both computers

I thought I would install the Mail directory on a virtual (encrypted)
BestCrypt drive on the desktop and specify the path to it also in the
TB installation on the laptop.

If I have to check for mail from elsewhere with my laptop I copy the
BestCrypt container containing the whole mail directory on the laptop
and mount it with the same drive letter as it has in the network. So
TB should not notice any difference - I hope. :-)

Shouldn't that work?

-- 

TIA, Regards

Hanspeter

The Bat! v1.53t unter Windows 95
4.0 Build   B



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re[2]: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Mark Wieder

Right. This is how mine is setup. One machine runs TB in TCP/IP server
mode and the others work in workstation mode with their mail storage
on the server machine. After I fiddled around with it enough it's been
working just great. The server runs all the time, picks up mail from
five or six different accounts every five minutes, and I can turn the
workstations off for the night and pick up in the morning.

In a networked office environment this has the advantage of allowing
local mail. This means not only that you can send mail among users in
an office, but that TB is smart enough that if I send mail to one of
the ISP accounts that TB knows about, the message just drops into the
inbox without going out to the internet at all.

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 3:39:34 PM, you wrote:


MDP> Alternatively to the "leave on server" scheme:

MDP> 1) Configure TB in client / server mode. This is not a very well known
MDP>or practiced configuration but is *is* in the help file.


-Mark Wieder

 Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],

@17 July 2002, 17:27 -0500 (23:27 UK time)  [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Just to underline the point about overquoting, in case my last post
didn't go in, let me annotate this reply and show you why it's not
very good. It may give some other top-quoting die-hards pause for
thought too. My comments may seem pointed, but any issues not pointed
out as unwanted in list traffic end up becoming acceptable.
 

1) Don't write your reply at the top. It doesn't scan.

> Hi, Adam. Regarding the question about sharing accounts,

2) Why rewrite the question? Answer inline underneath the original
question and you'll only have half as much to type!

 ... 

> --
> Avi
> Avram Sacks
> Chicago, IL
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

3) A fine signature - not too long although it doesn't have a true cut
mark. This should be "-- " (). Without a
proper cut mark the rest of the message stays put. Not that there
should be a "rest of the message". A signature should end a message.
Which brings us nicely to

4)

> |+>
> ||  Adam  |
> ||   ||  mail.fm>  |
> |||
> ||  07/17/2002|
> ||  05:18 PM  |
> ||  Please respond|
> ||  to tbudl  |
> |||
> |+>
>   >|
>   ||
>   |  To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SMTP@cchntmsd|
>   |  cc:           |
>   |  Subject: Re: downloading e-mail on home   |
>   |   network to computer A using computer B   |
>   >|

Sorry to the other readers to have left this in, but this is just
awful! A complete waste of space and time. Very well constructed, yes,
but not very constructive. Please don't use this here on the TBUDL. I
recommend to you not to use them privately either - the people you
write to will thank you ;-).

5) and here comes the original post. All of it. Not a hair out of
place.

> Hello Avram,

 ... 

Please trim all quotes, like it says in the list rules, and try to
present your postings in a legible, easy to digest format. Top quoting
is *not* easy to digest.

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2
'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000)

iD8DBQE9NffwOeQkq5KdzaARApiYAJ9ccmRvGmdyNbnWFOqVNp0Oo0tbFQCgjpsd
nbNzYWXVHxxcsUPkZtjs74w=
=5qPx
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Adam

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 7:42:39 PM, you wrote:

JA> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
JA> Hash: SHA1

JA> On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...

>> main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop. This way, all mail
>> is in one place and readily accessible.

JA> Map a network drive to the other PC from your laptop.  Install TB! on
JA> your desktop PC, use all the normal settings etc.  When installing on
JA> the Laptop, it asks you where you want to store your mail, direct it
JA> to the folder on the other PC.  Add the accounts, and you should be
JA> set to go... I think... I've not tried or tested this ;)  Maybe

I don't think this would work.

JA> somebody that has been using it longer would know the effect.  I'm
JA> sure one possible issue with that setup is you'd have to make sure
JA> they both weren't open at the same time.  But I cannot see anything
JA> too bad with it.

True enough. I'm not sure what sort of harm there is if you make a
rare omission of avoiding that.

-- 
Best regards,
 Adam



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Adam

Hello Avram,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:39:09 PM, you wrote:

AS> How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network so that e-mail
AS> can be downloaded to only one of two computers, but the download itself can
AS> be commanded by either computer and the e-mail can be read by either
AS> computer?  If possible, this setup would insure that all mail is in one
AS> place, and would allow anyone on the network to read all of it.

Make sure both machines on the network can currently share files.
Probably make sure both machines run the same version of TB; but I
don't know if that matters.  Make sure you are happy with the account
structure with your mails. Now install TB on the second machine
normally, if you haven't already.

Run REGEDIT on first machine.  Export the following registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

Since you have the same Windows OSs on each machine, that should be
simple.  Make sure your second machine can access that exported file.
Without openning TB, on the second machine, import that registry key.
Now while you are still running Regedit, go to that registry section,
and advance to Working Directory.  Enter here the path to the mail
directory on the first machine. You could cut and paste from Windows
Explorer or whatever.  Quit Regedit.  And I think you can run TB now.

This should work fine!

If it didn't work, go back and make sure you had set the original Mail
directory to be shared Full, not Read only.

There is some delay accessing big folders from the second machine. You
might be able to alleviate that if you know how to write scripts (I
don't really).

AS> FWIW, I am currently using XP Home OS, and The Bat ver. 1.53, but will
AS> upgrade to current version at the time I set up the network. 


-- 
Best regards,
 Adam



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],

@17 July 2002, 17:04 -0500 (23:04 UK time)  [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


First things first. Avram. That was an excellent example of how *Nnot*
to write a reply on this list.

Top quoting - a nono.
Too much quoting - a nono.


You're using the "Outlook" standard reply format, one that I find
awful (but I'm feeling more like Canute by the day on that score). It
is called "top quoting" and means that you let the quotes appear at
the bottom and type your reply at the top.

I have many reasons to *not* prefer the "top quoting" method:
o  It is harder to follow points raised and counterpoints made without
   them being interspersed.
o  Following on from that, as you go through the quotes interspersing
   your replies and clipping the "fluff", you actually ensure that all
   points raised and questions asked are covered.
o  The message chain becomes a lot more conversational.
o  Rather than growing exponentially with each reply in a thread, the
   message size is kept reasonable and to the point - if the
   back-reference is that important, surely it's on file!
o  Responses have immediate context rather than being a bolt out of
   the blue at the top of a message making you scroll down to re-read
   the original - not an easy task when it's in the light grey italics
   I happen to use to show signatures ;-).

I know there are some instances where top-quoting is necessary -
particularly in dealing with a technical support department where an
issue may be passed around from person to person and the entire
message chain needs to be kept live. I actually have a special
template I use for such occasions. At all other time, I champion the
cause of conversational email! :-).


As a result of top quoting, your posting includes all signatures and
previous list footers of the message you are replying to - another
no-no and this one is against the list rules. Please trim your replies.


Now - to business:

AS>>> How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network ...

>> ... you can set up BAT that it downloads the mail, but it leaves on
>> the server. ...  Another alternative is you keep the mail on the
>> server for 1 or 2 days.

Correct.

> what if the laptop user downloads a second time before the desktop
> user has a chance to download?

Nothing. Each user will only download once. There is a mechanism to
ensure this. Already received messages are ignored. Set both systems
to keep on server for 2 days and it will all tick along very nicely
(unless one of the systems misses a mail fetch for more than two days)

> I didn't ask the question, but I would also like to insure that any
> mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on the
> main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop. This way, all mail
> is in one place and readily accessible.

BCC it back to yourself.

Alternatively to the "leave on server" scheme:

1) Configure TB in client / server mode. This is not a very well known
   or practiced configuration but is *is* in the help file.

2) Configure TB to use a shared path on the network as the root for
   the MAIL folder and work on the same real files.

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2
'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000)

iD8DBQE9NfIoOeQkq5KdzaARAoKUAJ9XfExjBUHO/ERKHKW4H/x9Shq0fgCfQP1y
akzBNUu5wDEAkYVoNL5xrgM=
=6/jG
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Avram_Sacks



Thanks, Jonathan.I may have more questions when I actually try and do this,
but hopefully this will work.  Thanks, again.

--
Avi
Avram Sacks
Chicago, IL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



|+--->
||  Jonathan Angliss |
|| |
||   |
||  07/17/2002 05:12 |
||  PM   |
||  Please respond to|
||  tbudl|
||   |
|+--->
  >|
  ||
  |  To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" |
  |   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@SMTP@cchntmsd |
  |  cc:   |
  |  Subject:     Re: downloading e-mail on home       |
  |       network to computer A using  computer B  |
  >|



-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...



> Hi, Peter. I knew about downloading while leaving messages on the
> server. However, that's not very clean, because messages might get
> downloaded to the secondary (laptop) computer first. If the laptop
> user leaves the messages on the server, I understand that the main
> desktop would still be able to download and delete those messages
> from the server. However, what if the laptop user downloads a second
> time before the desktop user has a chance to download? In this
> scenario, the laptop user will possibly have double, even triple
> copies of some messages. That's not good, even though the BAT has a
> command for deletion of duplicates. It's still a pain to have to
> deal with. No, what I would like to do is to be able to insure that
> all mail gets downloaded on to one drive and is read on that drive.
> I didn't ask the question, but I would also like to insure that any
> mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on the
> main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop. This way, all mail
> is in one place and readily accessible.

Map a network drive to the other PC from your laptop.  Install TB! on
your desktop PC, use all the normal settings etc.  When installing on
the Laptop, it asks you where you want to store your mail, direct it
to the folder on the other PC.  Add the accounts, and you should be
set to go... I think... I've not tried or tested this ;)  Maybe
somebody that has been using it longer would know the effect.  I'm
sure one possible issue with that setup is you'd have to make sure
they both weren't open at the same time.  But I cannot see anything
too bad with it.

- --
Jonathan Angliss
([EMAIL PROTECTED])




Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Avram_Sacks



Hi, Adam.   Regarding the question about sharing accounts, currently I have only
one account.   However, even were there to be more than one account, I think I
would want there to be sharing of all accounts.

--
Avi
Avram Sacks
Chicago, IL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



|+>
||  Adam  |
|||
|||
||  07/17/2002|
||  05:18 PM  |
||  Please respond|
||  to tbudl  |
|||
|+>
  >|
  ||
  |  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SMTP@cchntmsd|
  |  cc:   |
  |  Subject: Re: downloading e-mail on home   |
  |   network to computer A using computer B   |
  >|



Hello Avram,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 6:56:32 PM, you wrote:

Acc> How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network so that e-mail
can be
Acc> downloaded to only one of two computers, but the download itself can be

Do you want to share all accounts, or one account?

--
Best regards,
 Adam




Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Adam

Hello Avram,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 6:56:32 PM, you wrote:

Acc> How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network so that e-mail can be
Acc> downloaded to only one of two computers, but the download itself can be

Do you want to share all accounts, or one account?

-- 
Best regards,
 Adam



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...



> Hi, Peter. I knew about downloading while leaving messages on the
> server. However, that's not very clean, because messages might get
> downloaded to the secondary (laptop) computer first. If the laptop
> user leaves the messages on the server, I understand that the main
> desktop would still be able to download and delete those messages
> from the server. However, what if the laptop user downloads a second
> time before the desktop user has a chance to download? In this
> scenario, the laptop user will possibly have double, even triple
> copies of some messages. That's not good, even though the BAT has a
> command for deletion of duplicates. It's still a pain to have to
> deal with. No, what I would like to do is to be able to insure that
> all mail gets downloaded on to one drive and is read on that drive.
> I didn't ask the question, but I would also like to insure that any
> mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on the
> main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop. This way, all mail
> is in one place and readily accessible.

Map a network drive to the other PC from your laptop.  Install TB! on
your desktop PC, use all the normal settings etc.  When installing on
the Laptop, it asks you where you want to store your mail, direct it
to the folder on the other PC.  Add the accounts, and you should be
set to go... I think... I've not tried or tested this ;)  Maybe
somebody that has been using it longer would know the effect.  I'm
sure one possible issue with that setup is you'd have to make sure
they both weren't open at the same time.  But I cannot see anything
too bad with it.

- --
Jonathan Angliss
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt

iQA/AwUBPTXr3CuD6BT4/R9zEQJ9BACdGYnBI9MMAzwtL07gT8kdKCugZ/0An2SE
M43mP/FmRWWqP0QA1pFfHMWS
=/b7B
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Avram_Sacks



Hi, Peter.  I knew about downloading while leaving messages on the server.
However, that's not very clean, because messages might get downloaded to the
secondary (laptop) computer first.  If the laptop user leaves the messages on
the server, I understand that the main desktop would still be able to download
and delete those messages from the server.  However, what if the laptop user
downloads a second time before the desktop user has a chance to download?  In
this scenario, the laptop user will possibly have double, even triple copies of
some messages.   That's not good, even though the BAT has a command for deletion
of duplicates.  It's still a pain to have to deal with.  No, what I would like
to do is to be able to insure that all mail gets downloaded on to one drive and
is read on that drive.   I didn't ask the question, but I would also like to
insure that any mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on
the main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop.  This way, all mail is in
one place and readily accessible.

--
Avi
Avram Sacks
Chicago, IL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


|+>
||  Peter Kerekes |
||  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|
||  nter.net> |
|||
||  07/17/2002|
||  04:42 PM  |
||  Please respond|
||  to tbudl  |
|||
|+>
  >|
  ||
  |  To: Avram Sacks   |
  |   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@SMTP@cchntmsd |
  |  cc:       |
  |      Subject: Re: downloading e-mail on home   |
  |       network to computer A using computer B   |
  >|



Hello Avram,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:09:09 PM, you wrote:

AS> How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network so that e-mail
AS> can be downloaded to only one of two computers, but the download itself can
AS> be commanded by either computer and the e-mail can be read by either
AS> computer?  If possible, this setup would insure that all mail is in one
AS> place, and would allow anyone on the network to read all of it.

AS> FWIW, I am currently using XP Home OS, and The Bat ver. 1.53, but will
AS> upgrade to current version at the time I set up the network.


It's me again. I cam across your e-mail when searching for something else.
I don't know about network, but you can set up BAT that it downloads the
mail, but it leaves on the server. So you can set it up that on Computer A
and you download without deleting on the server, on computer C you download
and delete. But in this case you always have to look for the messages on A
and B before C. Another alternative is you keep the mail on the server for
1 or 2 days.

This is feature is used if you want to see your messages at home, but want
to make sure you get it in your office. Go to Account | account Properties
| Mail management.

--

Best regards,
 Petermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98
4.10 Build 1998



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/





Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Peter Kerekes

Hello Avram,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:09:09 PM, you wrote:

AS> How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network so that e-mail
AS> can be downloaded to only one of two computers, but the download itself can
AS> be commanded by either computer and the e-mail can be read by either
AS> computer?  If possible, this setup would insure that all mail is in one
AS> place, and would allow anyone on the network to read all of it.

AS> FWIW, I am currently using XP Home OS, and The Bat ver. 1.53, but will
AS> upgrade to current version at the time I set up the network. 


It's me again. I cam across your e-mail when searching for something else.
I don't know about network, but you can set up BAT that it downloads the
mail, but it leaves on the server. So you can set it up that on Computer A
and you download without deleting on the server, on computer C you download
and delete. But in this case you always have to look for the messages on A
and B before C. Another alternative is you keep the mail on the server for
1 or 2 days.

This is feature is used if you want to see your messages at home, but want
to make sure you get it in your office. Go to Account | account Properties
| Mail management.

-- 
 
Best regards,
 Petermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98
4.10 Build 1998



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Avram_Sacks



How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network so that e-mail can be
downloaded to only one of two computers, but the download itself can be
commanded by either computer and the e-mail can be read by either computer?  If
possible, this setup would insure that all mail is in one place, and would allow
anyone on the network to read all of it.

FWIW, I am currently using XP Home OS, and The Bat ver. 1.53, but will upgrade
to current version at the time I set up the network.

--
Thanks, Avi.
Avram Sacks
Chicago, IL
sac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/



downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-17 Thread Avram Sacks

How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network so that e-mail
can be downloaded to only one of two computers, but the download itself can
be commanded by either computer and the e-mail can be read by either
computer?  If possible, this setup would insure that all mail is in one
place, and would allow anyone on the network to read all of it.

FWIW, I am currently using XP Home OS, and The Bat ver. 1.53, but will
upgrade to current version at the time I set up the network. 

-- 
Thanks, Avi.
Avram Sacks
Chicago, IL
sac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Current Ver: 1.61
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/