FR: always visible/opened mails in thread view

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello TBUDL,

message list displaying in thread view should have the feature to mark
messages as "always visible or if not explicitly closed since the list
got activated", just like it is with the selected message.

This could also mean to use the flag attribute or some colour group as
an indicator.

Interested?


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Re: thread view question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Michael,

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:03:09 -0500GMT (4-10-03, 4:03 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MLC> When two branches of a thread have no common ancestor which is still
MLC> in my view, the branches are separated.  (Sorting by subject would
MLC> bring them together, but I prefer to sort by date.)  Is there any way
MLC> to fix this, so that theads stay togther?

Can't be done with TB. More people have asked for something like this,
so it's possible that it's on the wishlist, but I don't know for sure.

The workarounds are 'threading by subject', but that's a lousy way to
thread.
Or to set your purging such that you keep your messages so long that
current threads are never broken. Purging after a month won't cause
many current threads to be broken and branches of threads that split a
month ago generally develop into fully independent threads.

Last way is not to purge automatically, but after some time delete the
stuff manually when your folder is getting to stuffed. That way you
can delete complete threads.

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thread view question

[Michael L. Cusac]

When two branches of a thread have no common ancestor which is still
in my view, the branches are separated.  (Sorting by subject would
bring them together, but I prefer to sort by date.)  Is there any way
to fix this, so that theads stay togther?

I am looking for something like this:



as opposed to this:



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Re[2]: default to thread view

[Mark Partous]

Hello Marck,

Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 10:49:54 PM, you wrote:

MP>> intesiveness :-)

Damned, who stole my "n"? :-)

MDP> If it is your intent to do so, I would be very surprised.

No reason to be surprised... I do not intend to use it for spamming.
I do not use it at all. I do not send spam, period.
I was merely testing a feature of some software I use.

Furthermore, even though address harvesters may be professionals,
those who actually use these addresses are not being professional.

I do think advertising through E-mail is legitimate, but only if it is
being sent to people who have expressed an explicit whish to receive
such a message (no "partner" stuff etc.) f.i. people who subscribe to
a newsletter.

Sending advertisements to people who did not request it is simply
unprofessional.

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Re: default to thread view

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Mark,

@18-Feb-2003, 20:21 +0100 (19:21 UK time) Mark Partous [MP] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MDP>> Actually, I disagree - completely. It is only amateurs who do
MDP>> what you suggest - it is too labour intensive for the
MDP>> professionals.

MP> About 10 seconds to extract all E-mail addresses from this list,
MP> that's what it took. Perhaps we have a different view on labour
MP> intesiveness :-)

No, we have a different view on what constitutes a professional
spammers address harvesting operation. I already *have* harvested
the addresses as they come in. *I'm* not about to use them for
spamming. If it is your intent to do so, I would be very surprised.

The labour intensive part is not reaping the addresses in stored
messages. It is applying for list membership, waiting for the
confirm message back from the server, confirming, waiting for a few
weeks while enough addresses come in worth having then reaping the
benefits of harvesting.

It isn't going to happen!

It is not very responsible of you to suggest it might.

Either you're being humorous or you're not understanding what you
are suggesting yourself. Either way, I am attempting to make it
clear to the membership that they are not in danger of having their
addresses harvested by any spammer by posting to the list - unless
they show their email address in the body of their posting.

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Re[2]: default to thread view

[Mark Partous]

Hello Marck,


Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 5:43:51 PM, you wrote:


MDP> Actually, I disagree - completely. It is only amateurs who do what
MDP> you suggest - it is too labour intensive for the professionals.

About 10 seconds to extract all E-mail addresses from this list,
that's what it took. Perhaps we have a different view on labour
intesiveness :-)

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Re: default to thread view

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Mark,

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:34:03 +0100GMT (18-2-03, 17:34 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MP> (1): To prove my point I will now add the list of E-mail addresses
MP> of the TBUDL-list. However, to make things less obvious for
MP> spammers I will write them in white letters on a white background

You'd need the current beta of TB to do that and not the release
you're using now.


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Re: default to thread view

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Mark,

@18-Feb-2003, 17:34 +0100 (16:34 UK time) Mark Partous [MP] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MP> This will only keep amateurs from grabbing your E-mail
MP> addresses. By simply subscribing to the list, archiving the mail
MP> and extracting the addresses, one can harvest everyone's E-mail
MP> address with little effort. (1)

Actually, I disagree - completely. It is only amateurs who do what
you suggest - it is too labour intensive for the professionals. The
only "no effort" method involves "bots" that trawl web pages and
links looking for email addresses. Subscribing to mailing lists just
to harvest is a non-starter for most serious address harvesters.

MP> Nevertheless, every little bit helps to beat spammers...

 ... 

MP> I will write them in white letters on a white background

Any more naive subscribers please ignore this taunt. It can't be
done in plain text :-).

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Re[2]: default to thread view

[Mark Partous]

Hello Wayne,

Monday, February 17, 2003, 9:49:17 PM, you wrote:

WB> Monday, February 17, 2003 at 12:48 PM (Pacific Time)

WB> Hello Allie,  This is a reply to your message dated
WB> Monday, February 17, 2003 at 4:08:15 AM, when you wrote:

AM>> PS// Be wary of adding your e-mail address in your signature to
AM>> the list. Spammers tend to visit the archives and harvest e-mail
AM>> addresses from it.

WB> Good idea Allie, I just removed mine from my sig.

This will only keep amateurs from grabbing your E-mail addresses.
By simply subscribing to the list, archiving the mail and extracting
the addresses, one can harvest everyone's E-mail address with little
effort. (1)

Nevertheless, every little bit helps to beat spammers...

(1): To prove my point I will now add the list of E-mail addresses of the
 TBUDL-list. However, to make things less obvious for spammers I
 will write them in white letters on a white background (2)
(2): You can try to find them beneath the signature, but you might as
 well not loose your time...   :-)


Well, seriously folks, it IS really easy...
 
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Re: default to thread view

[Wayne Black]

Monday, February 17, 2003 at 12:48 PM (Pacific Time)

Hello Allie,  This is a reply to your message dated
Monday, February 17, 2003 at 4:08:15 AM, when you wrote:

AM> PS// Be wary of adding your e-mail address in your signature to
AM> the list. Spammers tend to visit the archives and harvest e-mail
AM> addresses from it.

Good idea Allie, I just removed mine from my sig.

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Re: default to thread view

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi kristina,

@17-Feb-2003, 12:04 kristina [K] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

K> Is there a way to make all folders default to view threads by,
K> reference.

Yes, but not immediately.

K> If there is a quick way to do this that'd be fantastic as the
K> idea of going through every folder fills me with dread.

Okay - but you have a bullet to bite.

You do have to go through every folder, but only to set the "Use
account default column settings" switch for each.

Once this is set, any change you make to one folder with that option
set will apply to all the others too.

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Re: default to thread view

[Allie Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kristina [K] wrote:'

K> Is there a way to make all folders default to view threads by,
K> reference.

   You need to go into each folder's properties and enable 'Use default
   column settings'. When finished, adjust any of these folders column
   settings to what you like and the rest will be adjusted in an
   identical fashion.

PS// Be wary of adding your e-mail address in your signature to the
list. Spammers tend to visit the archives and harvest e-mail addresses
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default to thread view

[kristina]

Hello TBUDL listers,

Is there a way to make all folders default to view
threads by, reference.

If there is a quick way to do this that'd be
fantastic as the idea of going through every
folder fills me with dread.

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Re: thread view!

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Thomas,

On Saturday, May 25, 2002 at 9:00:55 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

PP>> More correct is: it's a not folder based view-filter, once applied valid
PP>> for all folders you're about to browse to, until you release the filter
PP>> (e.g. with +<+>)

TF> Or with the  key. ;-)

Which could lead to problems when in folder-view mode :-)
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Re[2]: thread view!

[Chris Hall]

Monday, 27 May 2002

Hi 8o4q-skup,

On Fri, 24 May 2002, at 07:50:33 [GMT -0600] (which was 1:50 a.m. here
in Eastbourne, N.Z.) you wrote:
8sxc> Hi, Dierk.

8sxc> On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:02:24 +0200 GMT your local time, which was
8sxc> Friday, May 24, 2002, 7:02 AM -0700 GMT here,
8sxc> you wrote:


>> Ok, that worked, but not as expected. Someone wrote that this way all
>> messages with the chosen criterion - regardless of the folder they are
>> in - would be shown. No, I only get those in the folder I am in ...

8sxc>   I think that what they meant was that if you switch to another
8sxc>   folder, messages will be displayed using the same criterion--not all
8sxc>   at once--maybe?

  




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Re: thread view!

[Thomas F]

Hello Peter,

On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:45:20 +0200 GMT (24/05/02, 20:45 +0700 GMT),
Peter Palmreuther wrote:

PP> More correct is: it's a not folder based view-filter, once applied valid
PP> for all folders you're about to browse to, until you release the filter
PP> (e.g. with +<+>)

Or with the  key. ;-)

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Re[2]: thread view!

[William Moore]

Hello Miguel

Thank you for your email dated Friday, May 24, 2002, 5:58:45 PM, in which you wrote:

MAU>  Light gray. ;-)
Light grey looks much better. ;-)
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Re: thread view!

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Peter,

> @Miguel: You're right: it should stay white ... Well ... light-gray, as
> this is my default background color in window elements :-)

OK, that's a deal. Light gray. ;-)

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Re: thread view!

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello David,

On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 6:24:53 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

>> SGVsbG8gSmVybmVqLA0KDQpPbiBGcmlkYXksIE1heSAyNCwgMjAwMiBhdCA1OjEzOjM3IFBNIHlv

DE> < ... >

DE> I bet you have done the same as me. Check account | Properties | Mail
DE> Transport,  and make sure that it is not base 64.

I am soo sorry!!!

I've changed it for a quick test in another issue and simply forgot to
revert it *slapping his forehead* :-/

Thank you Marck for the 'translation', I'd have posted it a second time
else ...

Sometimes, mostly after a long working day, I'm so stupid ...

Sorry to all, I know I should have known better what will happen, but I
just didn't remember the change I made before posting here ...

@Miguel: You're right: it should stay white ... Well ... light-gray, as
this is my default background color in window elements :-)
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Re: thread view!

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Hi Peter

On 24 May 2002 at 17:57:39 +0200 (which was 16:57 where I live) Peter
Palmreuther wrote and made these points

> SGVsbG8gSmVybmVqLA0KDQpPbiBGcmlkYXksIE1heSAyNCwgMjAwMiBhdCA1OjEzOjM3IFBNIHlv

< ... >

I bet you have done the same as me. Check account | Properties | Mail
Transport,  and make sure that it is not base 64.

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Re: thread view!

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Peter,

> SGVsbG8gSmVybmVqLA0KDQpPbiBGcmlkYXksIE1heSAyNCwgMjAwMiBhdCA1OjEzOjM3IFBNIHlv
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No, disagree. I think it should stay white. ;-)

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Re: thread view!

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Hi Peter,

@24 May 2002, 17:57:39 +0200 (16:57 UK time) Peter Palmreuther wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PP>>> This would open up a virtual folder here, containing round about 17000
PP>>> messages, without any folder index so The Bat! would have to crawl through
PP>>> all folders manually and building the index for 17000 mails 'on the fly'
PP>>> ... No sire, thanks :-)

JS>> Well, my TBUDL folder contains 16500 messages, and The Bat takes one
JS>> second to display it (except when it's clicked the first time - then
JS>> it takes about 5-8 seconds)

> Because: ... yeah ... because? Simply because this folder is
> _indexed_. The MESSAGES.TBI file causes this less time when opening
> a folder ... it's the index used for message list displaying.

> But we were talking about a virtual folder ... w/o an index file.
> This index would have to be build 'on the fly' ... and this, for
> sure, would take a little bit more time than 1 second :-)

> P.S.: My Debian-User-list folder contains only 12k messages and opens up in
>   1-2 seconds too, I know about the speed improvement of indexing files :-)

Just in case anyone who doesn't know about the "content encoding"
issue when posting on Listar wants to read what you wrote and doesn't
have a decoder handy...

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Re: thread view!

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Re: thread view!

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Peter!

On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 4:57:05 PM you wrote:

> This would open up a virtual folder here, containing round about 17000
> messages, without any folder index so The Bat! would have to crawl through
> all folders manually and building the index for 17000 mails 'on the fly'
> ... No sire, thanks :-)

1. At last, we are back to a more fun tonality ... ;-)

2. why do you archive your messages within TB!? Apart from the fact
that I don't archive them - isn't there a good archive on line? - I
use other means. For newsletters (and they are all in all the only
thing I really archive), I just print them to a PDF file and done with
it.

... but I digress ...


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Re: thread view!

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Peter,
 
24. maj 2002, 16:57:05, you wrote:

PP> This would open up a virtual folder here, containing round about 17000
PP> messages, without any folder index so The Bat! would have to crawl through
PP> all folders manually and building the index for 17000 mails 'on the fly'
PP> ... No sire, thanks :-)

Well, my TBUDL folder contains 16500 messages, and The Bat takes one
second to display it (except when it's clicked the first time - then
it takes about 5-8 seconds)

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Re: thread view!

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Dierk,

On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 4:19:13 PM you wrote in
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DH> OTOH, it would be a nice idea to have a kind of new folder view
DH> opening with all selected messages ...

And a resource killer too :-) Imagine this virtual folder opens up with all
messages address to 'tbudl@...' because you clicked on 'To' column ...

This would open up a virtual folder here, containing round about 17000
messages, without any folder index so The Bat! would have to crawl through
all folders manually and building the index for 17000 mails 'on the fly'
... No sire, thanks :-)
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Re: thread view!

[Gerard]

ON Friday, May 24, 2002, 4:19:13 PM, you wrote:

DH> Yeah, give me a few minutes of sun and I'll screw up big. After yours
DH> and Peter's explanation it became obviously clear where I went astray.

DH> OTOH, it would be a nice idea to have a kind of new folder view
DH> opening with all selected messages ...

O no youre not going to "Nice Feature" yourself out of this ;-)

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Re: thread view!

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Gerard!

On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 3:50:01 PM you wrote:

>  All folders are now sorted in this way, at least for the options I tried
>  it worked, but you will have to click on the folder.
>  If you were expecting one view with all msg's form all folders, that
>  not what it does.

Yeah, give me a few minutes of sun and I'll screw up big. After yours
and Peter's explanation it became obviously clear where I went astray.

OTOH, it would be a nice idea to have a kind of new folder view
opening with all selected messages ...



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Re: thread view!

[Gerard]

ON Friday, May 24, 2002, 3:02:24 PM, you wrote:

DH> Ok, that worked, but not as expected. Someone wrote that this way all
DH> messages with the chosen criterion - regardless of the folder they are
DH> in - would be shown. No, I only get those in the folder I am in ...

Hi Dierk,
 All folders are now sorted in this way, at least for the options I tried
 it worked, but you will have to click on the folder.
 If you were expecting one view with all msg's form all folders, that
 not what it does.

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Re: thread view!

[8o4q-skup]

Hi, Dierk.

On Fri, 24 May 2002 15:02:24 +0200 GMT your local time, which was
Friday, May 24, 2002, 7:02 AM -0700 GMT here,
you wrote:


> Ok, that worked, but not as expected. Someone wrote that this way all
> messages with the chosen criterion - regardless of the folder they are
> in - would be shown. No, I only get those in the folder I am in ...

  I think that what they meant was that if you switch to another
  folder, messages will be displayed using the same criterion--not all
  at once--maybe?

  
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Re: thread view!

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Hello Dierk,

On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 3:02:24 PM you wrote in
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>> Don't click on the colum header but on a msg.
>> If you click on the litlle yellow envelope in a msg you get all the
>> unread msg's.
>> Click on the name of the author and you get, well you get the
>> picture ;-)

DH> Ok, that worked, but not as expected. Someone wrote that this way all
DH> messages with the chosen criterion - regardless of the folder they are
DH> in - would be shown. No, I only get those in the folder I am in ...

And if you change the folder you'll see in that new focused folder messages
fitting the criteria you selected too.

I can't imagine somebody wrote this way you'll be able to see all messages
from all folders fitting that criteria :-)
More correct is: it's a not folder based view-filter, once applied valid
for all folders you're about to browse to, until you release the filter
(e.g. with +<+>)
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Re: thread view!

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Gerard!

On Friday, May 24, 2002 at 10:55:43 AM you wrote:

> Don't click on the colum header but on a msg.
> If you click on the litlle yellow envelope in a msg you get all the
> unread msg's.
> Click on the name of the author and you get, well you get the
> picture ;-)

Ok, that worked, but not as expected. Someone wrote that this way all
messages with the chosen criterion - regardless of the folder they are
in - would be shown. No, I only get those in the folder I am in ...



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Re: thread view!

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 9:32:37 PM you wrote:

> *Any* column in the message list. ;-)

I just tried that. The only thing changing is the sorting order, just
like clicking without .

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Re: thread view!

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Gerard,

>  Does anyone know of any more things to Alt-click?

Try the date and size columns :)

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Re: thread view!

[Thomas F]

Hello Gerard,

On Thu, 23 May 2002 20:46:12 +0200 GMT (24/05/02, 01:46 +0700 GMT),
Gerard wrote:

G>  Does anyone know of any more things to Alt-click?

*Any* column in the message list. ;-)

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Re: thread view!

[Gerard]

ON Thursday, May 23, 2002, 5:51:58 PM, you wrote:

MO> Try holding down alt while clickin on the subject. That will turn on
MO> advanced filtering and show only messages with the same subject.

Hi Marcus,
 Also try:
 click on the envelope and get only read / un-read msg's
 click on the author/recipient and get all his msg's
 click on the flag and get all flagged msg's
 click on the "P" (parked) and get all parked msg

 And not only in the current folder but in all!

 Does anyone know of any more things to Alt-click?

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Re: thread view!

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, May 23, 2002, 15:50, Csaba Kiss wrote:

> "Enter" is not the solution I was looking for, because then the
> whole list will open in  a new window list not the thread only.

Try holding down alt while clickin on the subject. That will turn on
advanced filtering and show only messages with the same subject. Not
quite the same as threads, but it might suite you?

Hitting ctrl-+ should wiew all messages again.

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Re: thread view!

[Thomas F]

Hello Csaba,

On Thu, 23 May 2002 10:09:35 +0200 GMT (23/05/02, 15:09 +0700 GMT),
Csaba Kiss wrote:

CK>  is it possible to expand threads with a magic button click or I have
CK> to click each and every "+" sign to get to the bottom of a thread.

Expand this thread: crtl-+
Expand all threads: crtl-*

CK> It would be also very usful if I could open a thread in a new
CK> message list window. Can it be done?

When you encounter the root of a new thread, hit . A new folder
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Re: thread view!

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Csaba!

On Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 10:09:35 AM you wrote:

>  is it possible to expand threads with a magic button click or I have
> to click each and every "+" sign to get to the bottom of a thread.
  
+<*> (Numeric Pad)



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thread view!

[Csaba Kiss]

Hello,
 is it possible to expand threads with a magic button click or I have
to click each and every "+" sign to get to the bottom of a thread. It
would be also very usful if I could open a thread in a new message
list window. Can it be done?
  
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Re[2]: Working with thread view

[Marek Mikus]

On Tue, 7 May 2002, Mitja Perko wrote:

> Does anyone know where the filters are saved and what is the format? I
> mean is it possible to change them by hand?

file ACCOUNT.SRX in account's directory on disk, it is a binary file, so
You can't change it.

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Re[2]: Working with thread view

[Mitja Perko]

Does anyone know where the filters are saved and what is the format? I
mean is it possible to change them by hand?

Best regards,
  Mitja Perko


Monday, May 6, 2002, 12:33:05 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Mitja,

>>> I have in mind something to more or less simulate this function (kind
>>> of an Ignore filter) but I haven't tested it yet. I will post it here
>>> when I do and if it works.
>>
>> Looking forward to it.

> OK, I got it working last night. It is not as easy to use as it was in
> Virtual Access (my previous e-mail client), in which I only had to
> typing "I" while pointing to any message on the thread I wanted to
> ignore, but it works.

> I don't have time now, so I'll try to explain later tonight what I've
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Re[2]: Working with thread view

[Mitja Perko]

Hello Miguel,

I also had a look at what could be done but could not find any
solution. The only thing I thought of was to make a program that would
save subjects to ignore by manual filter and then filter using
external program. But this is not possible :(.

Best regards,
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Monday, May 6, 2002, 12:33:05 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Mitja,

>>> I have in mind something to more or less simulate this function (kind
>>> of an Ignore filter) but I haven't tested it yet. I will post it here
>>> when I do and if it works.
>>
>> Looking forward to it.

> OK, I got it working last night. It is not as easy to use as it was in
> Virtual Access (my previous e-mail client), in which I only had to
> typing "I" while pointing to any message on the thread I wanted to
> ignore, but it works.

> I don't have time now, so I'll try to explain later tonight what I've
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Re: Working with thread view

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Mitja,

>> I have in mind something to more or less simulate this function (kind
>> of an Ignore filter) but I haven't tested it yet. I will post it here
>> when I do and if it works.
>
> Looking forward to it.

OK, I got it working last night. It is not as easy to use as it was in
Virtual Access (my previous e-mail client), in which I only had to
typing "I" while pointing to any message on the thread I wanted to
ignore, but it works.

I don't have time now, so I'll try to explain later tonight what I've
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Re: Working with thread view

[Ricardo M. Reyes]

El viernes 3 de mayo de 2002, a las 6.47, Mitja Perko decía:

MP> Is there
MP> a way to park or delete the whole thread and not just the first
MP> message.

in the context menu (right click) go to the "thread" submenu

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Re[2]: Working with thread view

[Mitja Perko]

> While on the thread pane, right click on any message of a thread and
> on the context menu select "Thread/Park" (or Unpark, read, etc.)
Yes, I see it now. Great.

>> Also is there a way to mark a thread with a sort of an ignore mark
>> (like in the NewsAgent)? So you skip the new messages that belong to
>> threads that you are not interested in.

> No, there isn't. And you are not the only one wishing there was that
> possibility.

> I have in mind something to more or less simulate this function (kind
> of an Ignore filter) but I haven't tested it yet. I will post it here
> when I do and if it works.
Looking forward to it.

Best regards, Mitja



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Re: Working with thread view

[Eddie Castelli]

Dear Miguel, 

 --->>> Miguel A. Urech / Freitag, 03.05.2002, 12:05:07
Working with thread view


> While on the thread pane, right click on any message of a thread and
> on the context menu select "Thread/Park" (or Unpark, read, etc.)

Thanks Miguel - this is a good tip about working on thread base.


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Re: Working with thread view

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Mitja,

> I am just begining to use thread view and have one question. Is there
> a way to park or delete the whole thread and not just the first
> message. How exactly are you using The Bat to read this list?

While on the thread pane, right click on any message of a thread and
on the context menu select "Thread/Park" (or Unpark, read, etc.)

> Also is there a way to mark a thread with a sort of an ignore mark
> (like in the NewsAgent)? So you skip the new messages that belong to
> threads that you are not interested in.

No, there isn't. And you are not the only one wishing there was that
possibility.

I have in mind something to more or less simulate this function (kind
of an Ignore filter) but I haven't tested it yet. I will post it here
when I do and if it works.

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Working with thread view

[Mitja Perko]

Hi,

I am just begining to use thread view and have one question. Is there
a way to park or delete the whole thread and not just the first
message. How exactly are you using The Bat to read this list?

I have set it to thread view and wanted to park the messages I want to
keep and delete the others. Or at least mark the messages read but I
also cannot do it without expanding all messages.

Also is there a way to mark a thread with a sort of an ignore mark
(like in the NewsAgent)? So you skip the new messages that belong to
threads that you are not interested in.

Thank you,
  Mitja Perko



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Re: Moving Messages in Thread-View

[Andrew K. Lovetski]

Hello, The Bat Users!

MP>  After a long Time of just reviving and not reading messages I
MP>  started to clean up my Folders. For every Folder of a
MP>  Mailing-List I made an Archive-Folder where I collect interesting
MP>  Message-Threads. But If I am in the Thread-view of the bat an I
MP>  want to move a complete thread, I have to expand it completely,
MP>  before I am able to move it. If I don't do this, only the
MP>  Top-Level-Message is moved.

MP>  I made this accidently with the Bat-List (It had about 1200 Messages)
MP>  and wanted to copy all the Messages out of the thread-view. The Bat
MP>  moved only 250 (Top-Level) Messages and crashed. Seems not only to be
MP>  a wanted feature but also a bug.

Use right-click menu for the messages selected (and threads, too) -
there is a thread submenu there. Move to - this is the menu item you
need.

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Moving Messages in Thread-View

[Martin Posch]

Hellihallo to all from Austria,

 After a long Time of just reviving and not reading messages I started
 to clean up my Folders.
 For every Folder of a Mailing-List I made an Archive-Folder where I
 collect interesting Message-Threads. But If I am in the Thread-view
 of the bat an I want to move a complete thread, I have to expand it
 completely, before I am able to move it. If I don't do this, only the
 Top-Level-Message is moved.

 I made this accidently with the Bat-List (It had about 1200 Messages)
 and wanted to copy all the Messages out of the thread-view. The Bat
 moved only 250 (Top-Level) Messages and crashed. Seems not only to be
 a wanted feature but also a bug.

 Grusserl,Greetings,

 (Sorry for bad English, practise is missing)
 

 Martin
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