Re: unencrypted voyager base?
Mica wrote: S If Voyager can't be run unencrypted, can TB be run portable? The latter is probably more difficult, as The Bat! stores a lot of settings in the registry. But then, as we see with Voyager, this isn't impossible. For now I think, the easier way for RIT would be to allow to install Voyager without encryption. You can set and remove reg entries, before and after use of TB. Like with GnuPG, if you remember. Unfortunately, injecting registry entries isn't always possible. In some of the places I work at the registry is write protected, i.e., .reg files don't work, so only portable programs that truly don't rely on the registry can work. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unencrypted voyager base?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 15 Sep 2006, @ @ at 23:06:39 -0700 (PDT), when SGP wrote: You can set and remove reg entries, before and after use of TB. Like with GnuPG, if you remember. Unfortunately, injecting registry entries isn't always possible. In some of the places I work at the registry is write protected, i.e., .reg files don't work, so only portable programs that truly don't rely on the registry can work. It is true indeed, so would be much better if for such things would be simply used an .ini file instead, dwelling in the program folder. The connection with Registry complicates things without real need. (Moving settings to INI file would be a masterstroke.) * Then, there is another solution even for that, but...it is a wee bit more than unusual. Namely to put TBat on a bootable small Linux CD (where TB is installed via Wine) with supported a RAM drive (of some 64 MB or even more if needed), and all the work could be done without touching HDDs, and even in a machine with no any hard drive[s]. All the work (send/receive) would be done via the RAM disk, then the mail folders burnt to a CD-RW (or copied to floppy), and that would be it. It might sound somewhat complicated, but is feasible. Just depends on how far someone would want to go (in this what I would call a relative madness). - -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRQv1Z7SpHvHEUtv8AQhFKwf+KhUxYEgKS4W3Ht3lMZf3TQPr/Gn4eBp6 YEd03kqol40+z2Pp1YiBB1oDNMMcYdoz7MKLN3DyBYGrOP4famV77Pu8pwulBnSn gwe5krHQwYzbwn9g+/wv5LR3GrhCFKfA4CfjftjVDrhFNvVcaXZp86F3EcAwrfoc XEW5LANwM5zltrypnLExa0LwBdPF+szPTgT9l9wgO/YiL6GSiyPPvgRdbKQOMDH1 LC/6Y4MsijXrLTw/NT5Ay05wFPPqlqnVcyfrk8qpA+0UjqvzZtiEasDIq7/nhxb5 JjZiu+vJENvmbiikUrEIBcAqj/KIE2MsJwe4bakC3HbFXjQCCNoj8A== =VWGn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
unencrypted voyager base?
Is it possible to set up voyager so that it doesn't encrypt its data and messages? I want to create an encrypted volume on my USB key, therefore voyager's encryption is a duplication. I also want to look at/modify voyager's configuration files, something I can't do if its configuration is encrypted. I do want to run voyager instead of TB because voyager is nearly portable --tough I read on the German forum that even voyager writes some keys to the Registry, but hopefully that will go away in a few more revisions. If Voyager can't be run unencrypted, can TB be run portable? - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unencrypted voyager base?
Hi SGP, on Fri, 15 Sep 2006 06:39:07 -0700 (PDT)GMT (15.09.2006, 15:39 +0200GMT here), you wrote: S Is it possible to set up voyager so that it doesn't encrypt its data and messages? Not in the current state. S I want to create an encrypted volume on my USB key, therefore S voyager's encryption is a duplication. I also want to look S at/modify voyager's configuration files, something I can't do if its configuration is encrypted. Sounds reasonable. It should be made possible to let the user choose during the installation. Someone might file a wish on BT... S I do want to run voyager instead of TB because voyager is nearly S portable --tough I read on the German forum that even voyager S writes some keys to the Registry, but hopefully that will go away in a few more revisions. I hope so too, although these entries only relate to the spellchecker. S If Voyager can't be run unencrypted, can TB be run portable? The latter is probably more difficult, as The Bat! stores a lot of settings in the registry. But then, as we see with Voyager, this isn't impossible. For now I think, the easier way for RIT would be to allow to install Voyager without encryption. -- Cheers Peter When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant, I could hardly stand to have the old man around. When I was 21, I was amazed at how much he had learned in seven years. Mark Twain Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unencrypted voyager base?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 15 Sep 2006, @ @ at 18:08:05 +0200, when Peter Meyns wrote: S If Voyager can't be run unencrypted, can TB be run portable? The latter is probably more difficult, as The Bat! stores a lot of settings in the registry. But then, as we see with Voyager, this isn't impossible. For now I think, the easier way for RIT would be to allow to install Voyager without encryption. You can set and remove reg entries, before and after use of TB. Like with GnuPG, if you remember. Thus in the Registry will not be left any trail, if that is the concern. Then, you don't have to install (again) TB on a portable media. It's enough if you copy the folder with already installed TB to it. Then, before running TB, you just run the saved TB reg entry (the .reg) file, to inject its settings into Registry, and after you are finished, you run another reg file, to delete the injected settings/entry. The only thing you would have to do is to modify slightly this reg entry, so that it directs to the drive letter of the USB stick or any other removable media. So the point is that TB can run portable, and even very much portable. The Very Much method consists of compression of executables (counting in dll files as well), so it occupies less space. This compression is possible with UPX program, for instance. If you compress some older versions, 1.4 or so, then you can run TB even from a floppy diskette. (In this case, the modified reg entry would point to A:\ drive.) - -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRQrX0bSpHvHEUtv8AQiFiAf+MMzE3NMWlVapirBVR7n5YkSVXTdPEFh5 81ohP185so6eBPuwxFT0Z5eGh9jlFnRRN2KH22iMuhkCVd2A2XT4MjpSBtWcKe6I 7/nOuToqbsWdXnkDCb/VL2I+VYEA7gESVnxaaU3utWPmvBFPXg5i+VOnuHY6JLbT 2+4jNI5kNKlAOC+DNuGSVinFv4Aiy0J83raF4E6l6H7WGo4fxLB5LHCK87s+mxbf EwTZt+QRhQnxCBx4mEvAF1EPgWnz23/qaAdXD8cItaz5NUcgdOoClXS3auWzm5Cj HFWAz9Dv4k51mJ3SVLG9c7DmlQGg89LMZbgl8Mdsn9Mo45wxkHEY+g== =O40a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unencrypted voyager base?
Hello Peter, On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:08:05 +0200 GMT (15/09/2006, 23:08 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: S If Voyager can't be run unencrypted, can TB be run portable? PM The latter is probably more difficult, as The Bat! stores a lot of PM settings in the registry. But then, as we see with Voyager, this isn't PM impossible. For now I think, the easier way for RIT would be to allow PM to install Voyager without encryption. I think TheBatch(http://allbat.info/index.php?1131389177) or DynBat (http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=viewarticleartid=120) could help. A bit of a comparison of the two in the form of a TBUDL thread is here: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg83190.html -- Cheers, Thomas. No electrons were harmed in the creation, transmission or reading of this email. However, many were excited and some may well have enjoyed the experience. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unencrypted voyager base?
Hello Thomas, I would like to add a disclaimer: I have not used either of them and don't know whether they can cause any problems whatsoever. Cheers, Thomas. On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:04:09 +0700 GMT (16/09/2006, 09:04 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Hello Peter, TF On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:08:05 +0200 GMT (15/09/2006, 23:08 +0700 GMT), TF Peter Meyns wrote: S If Voyager can't be run unencrypted, can TB be run portable? PM The latter is probably more difficult, as The Bat! stores a lot of PM settings in the registry. But then, as we see with Voyager, this isn't PM impossible. For now I think, the easier way for RIT would be to allow PM to install Voyager without encryption. TF I think TheBatch(http://allbat.info/index.php?1131389177) or DynBat TF (http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=viewarticleartid=120) TF could help. TF A bit of a comparison of the two in the form of a TBUDL thread is TF here: TF http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg83190.html -- Cheers, Thomas. Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You may wonder how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another hummingbird. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
