your signed emails

2003-10-19 Thread Jurgen Haug 
Hello Marck,

I try to follow the thread about PGP and all, and I understand that your message has a 
tick because you sign it different from the others, right? Does that mean that one can 
only verify your message in TB and the likes, and not in Outlook? Or it doesn't 
matter? 

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Re: your signed emails

2003-10-20 Thread Vishal 
Hi Jurgen

Monday, October 20, 2003, 2:55:56 AM, you wrote:

JH> I try to follow the thread about PGP and all, and I understand that
JH> your message has a tick because you sign it different from the others,
JH> right?

Actually, the very fact that it is signed causes it to be ticked. People here
are using different versions of PGP and their messages all show up similarly.

JH> Does that mean that one can only verify your message in TB and the
JH> likes, and not in Outlook? Or it doesn't matter?

You should be able to verify the message in any client, provided there are no
compatibility problems between it and your version of PGP. A digital signature
in general does not really have anything specific to a particular email client.

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Re: your signed emails

2003-10-20 Thread Vasiliy Efimenko 
Hello Jurgen,

On 20 October 2003, at 08:55:56 (GMT +0200) you wrote:

JH> Does  that  mean that one can only verify your message in TB and the
JH> likes, and not in Outlook?

Outlook don't do it because it don't support PGP/MIME.
Only users of TB can encrypt/decrypt/sign in/from PGP/MIME format.

JH>  Or it doesn't matter? 

Until Outlook Express will not support PGP/MIME it will not to do it.

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Re: your signed emails

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Wakeford 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Jurgen,
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 you wrote in 

> The PGP 8.0.2 is freeware? I can only find it for 50 dollars?

No it is free. I made the same mistake. When you install it you just
click on register later and that's it, free forever. Try it and, as
I've found out in the last couple of days, it really is very easy to
use.

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Re: your signed emails

2003-10-21 Thread Chris 

On Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 1:00:40 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote in the
message "your signed emails"
<mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The PGP 8.0.2 is freeware? I can only find it for 50 dollars?

Free download for personal use at:
http://www.pgp.com/products/freeware.html

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Re[2]: your signed emails

2003-10-20 Thread Vasiliy Efimenko 
Hello Jurgen,

On 20 October 2003, at 10:55:59 (GMT +0200) you wrote:

JH> last  message  all  right (as I now can see), but I asked me for the
JH> password  I  used  to  make  the  key.  I will see (when I send this
JH> message here) if it will do that all the time. That would be a pain.
JH> ARGH,  it DOES ask again. Is that the norm, or did I set some option
JH> wrong?

You  may  set  a  more  long period for caching of your pass-phrase. See
option  dialog  of PGP, where you may set "Cache passphrase while logged
on".

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Re[2]: your signed emails

2003-10-20 Thread Vasiliy Efimenko 
Hello Jurgen,

On 20 October 2003, at 16:24:47 (GMT +0200) you wrote:

JH> you mean I have to do that outside of TB, in the settings for the PG?

Yes, I meant external PGP.

JH> I am using GnuPG and can't find anything in the settings via GPGshell...

Oops.  I  was  mistaken.  Sorry,  I can't nothing suggest to you in this
case.

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Re[2]: your signed emails

2003-10-20 Thread Jim D 
On 10/20/2003, in  Rob
said:

> I would expect that as i can choose GnuPG in Tools/OpenPGP/Choose version,
> the caching option in Tools/OpenPGP/Preferences should also work ... but it
> doesn't.
> The 'comment block' option does work, but the 'cache passphrase' does not.

  FYI - the release notes on 2.01.3 state that this option now works.

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Re[2]: your signed emails

2003-10-20 Thread Jim D 
On 10/20/2003, in 
Jurgen Haug said:

> I am using GnuPG and can't find anything in the settings via GPGshell...

  If there isn't a specific reason you are using GPGshell, perhaps you
  will consider switching to PGP 8.0.2 freeware. It works like a charm
  in TB! and has a very friendly interface. I am especially impressed
  with the automated interface to the public key servers so it can
  look up keys automagically if I don't have them in my keyring.
  That's just SLICK!

  I haven't used PGP since v4, and this is very similar and very easy
  to use. I am impressed. I can also set the passphrase caching for
  hours so I only have to enter my passphrase once per email session.


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GnuPG (was : your signed emails)

2003-10-21 Thread Rob 
Hi Jim,

on Mon, 20 Oct 2003, at 15:07:37 local time (GMT -0700), you wrote:

>> The 'comment block' option does work, but the 'cache passphrase' does not.

JD>   FYI - the release notes on 2.01.3 state that this option now works.

you mean this :

[+] GnuPG passphrase caching. The user now can select from various signing keys 
available.

well, caching does not work and i can not select signing keys ; i get a
password prompt for the one that 'belongs' to the account ...

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RE:GnuPG (was : your signed emails)

2003-10-21 Thread Jurgen Haug 
Hello Rob,

Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:17:14 PM, you wrote:

JD>>   FYI - the release notes on 2.01.3 state that this option now works.


> [+] GnuPG passphrase caching. The user now can select from various signing keys 
> available.
> well, caching does not work and i can not select signing keys ; i get a
> password prompt for the one that 'belongs' to the account ...

ah finally GnuPG stopped asking me for the password :-) It works here with this new 
options in TB .3


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Re:GnuPG (was : your signed emails)

2003-10-21 Thread Rob 
Hi Jurgen,

on Tue, 21 Oct 2003, at 19:02:34 local time (GMT +0200), you wrote:

JH> ah finally GnuPG stopped asking me for the password :-) It works
JH> here with this new options in TB .3

i still get a passphrase promp for every message i sign, despite the 30
min. caching i specified ... and only for the key with the same e-mail
address that belongs to the account i'm in, no choice.

when i'm in an account where there's no signing-key with the same e-mail
address, i even get prompted for a non-existing key ?!?!

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Re: GnuPG (was : your signed emails)

2003-10-21 Thread Jim D 
On 10/21/2003, in 
Rob said:

> you mean this :

> [+] GnuPG passphrase caching. The user now can select from various signing keys 
> available.

> well, caching does not work and i can not select signing keys ; i get a
> password prompt for the one that 'belongs' to the account ...

Yes, I meant that, but since I don't use GnuPG, I couldn't tell what
that meant. It seemed to address your remarks.

I stopped using PGP a long time ago because it was such a hassle to
use. When I looked at it again about a year ago, I looked at GnuPG (I
think) and OpenPGP, etc. They seemed to be just as much of a hassle as
before. But the latest version of PGP from www.pgp.com seems to be
much less so.

I am a big proponent of "no hassle" since I look at so much email
every day. This seems to be pretty well done. It stays out of my way,
except for the first time I enter my password; I have it cached for
about hours, so I really only enter it once an email session. And when
I want to check a signature or whatever, it contacts the PGP Key
server for me and gets the public key. I like that. "Automated" is good
for me. I never liked having to manually distribute my key. I don't
like having to ask for one before using it. I know some people will
think that caching a password for 2 hours is unsecure, but I don't use
this at my office, so it works just fine for me.  :)



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