Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

2007-06-05 Thread Sue Heim
Unmute is the appropriate verb, in this case. And I'd not hyphenate it.
...sue

P.S. Here's the list of commands for my conference service:

* 2 Record conference (on/off) (if activated)

* 4 Lock conference

* 5 Unlock conference

* 6 Mute line

* 7 Unmute line

* 8 Conference continuation

* 9 Roll call (if activated)

* # Count participants

# # Mute all lines

9 9 Unmute all lines

0 0 To ask for an operator

* * List available commands


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 Hi,

 Is un-mute or unmute an elegant verb to use in the following
 circumstances? Thoughts? Alternatives?

 To mute the phone, do X, Y, and Z.
 To unmute the phone, do A, B, and C.

 Cheers,

 Sean


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Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

2007-06-05 Thread Dana Worley
Enable mute/disable mute?
Turn on mute/turn off mute?
Disable the sound/enable the sound? 
Silence the phone/de-silence the phone? ;)

Dana W. 
(I think I like disable/enable sound)

On Tuesday, June 05, 2007, Brierley, Sean wrote: 

 Is un-mute or unmute an elegant verb to use in the following
 circumstances? Thoughts? Alternatives?
 
 To mute the phone, do X, Y, and Z.
 To unmute the phone, do A, B, and C.
***
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Campbell Scientific, Inc. 
Microsoft MVP, Windows Help



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Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

2007-06-05 Thread Roberts, Katie
Alternatives:
Activate mute/deactivate mute
Engage mute/release mute

Katie Roberts
Technical Writer
Jewelry Television
IT Software Engineering Product Management
10001 Kingston Pike
Knoxville, TN 37922
865.692.2715
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On Behalf Of Dana Worley
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:24 PM
To: tcp@techcommpros.com
Subject: Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

Enable mute/disable mute?
Turn on mute/turn off mute?
Disable the sound/enable the sound? 
Silence the phone/de-silence the phone? ;)

Dana W. 
(I think I like disable/enable sound)

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 To mute the phone, do X, Y, and Z.
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[TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...

2007-06-05 Thread Brierley, Sean
So,

If you were making a browser-based app for sale. And, said App didn't
work for your tech writer in the default supported browser, and the tech
writer said, the site doesn't display for me, it's blank, would you
then reply works for me and be good with that?

Weird.

See, if it were me and one of my audience couldn't see the content,
during development when the audience numbers a dozen people at most, I'd
be curious and nervous that somebody else might encounter the problem

Cheers,

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Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

2007-06-05 Thread Sue Heim
I think we need more context. Because, honestly, I think mute/unmute is
pretty prevalent, and why would you want alternatives?

I just checked the help on my Blackberry and it says to mute do this, to
turn mute off do that. But my conference service is quite clear on
mute/unmute. The sound card on my laptop says mute (not turn off sound).

So... Who's your audience, Sean? What's the context?

...sue




On 6/5/07, Roberts, Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alternatives:
 Activate mute/deactivate mute
 Engage mute/release mute

 Katie Roberts
 Technical Writer
 Jewelry Television
 IT Software Engineering Product Management
 10001 Kingston Pike
 Knoxville, TN 37922
 865.692.2715
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Dana Worley
 Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:24 PM
 To: tcp@techcommpros.com
 Subject: Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

 Enable mute/disable mute?
 Turn on mute/turn off mute?
 Disable the sound/enable the sound?
 Silence the phone/de-silence the phone? ;)

 Dana W.
 (I think I like disable/enable sound)

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  Is un-mute or unmute an elegant verb to use in the following
  circumstances? Thoughts? Alternatives?
 
  To mute the phone, do X, Y, and Z.
  To unmute the phone, do A, B, and C.
 ***
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Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

2007-06-05 Thread Charles Beck
Works fine for me. 

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Subject: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

Hi,

Is un-mute or unmute an elegant verb to use in the following
circumstances? Thoughts? Alternatives?

To mute the phone, do X, Y, and Z.
To unmute the phone, do A, B, and C.

Cheers,

Sean


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Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

2007-06-05 Thread Brierley, Sean
Thanks all!

Am going to hang with mute and unmute.

I thought of stuff like turn on or off sound, but sound isn't turned on
or off, you can still hear the distant end, only your ability to speak
to others on the call is turned off.

Cheers,

Sean 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Dana Worley
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:24 PM
To: tcp@techcommpros.com
Subject: Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

Enable mute/disable mute?
Turn on mute/turn off mute?
Disable the sound/enable the sound? 
Silence the phone/de-silence the phone? ;)

Dana W. 
(I think I like disable/enable sound)

On Tuesday, June 05, 2007, Brierley, Sean wrote: 

 Is un-mute or unmute an elegant verb to use in the following 
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 To mute the phone, do X, Y, and Z.
 To unmute the phone, do A, B, and C.
***
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Software Product Manager/Manager, Software Support Group Campbell
Scientific, Inc. 
Microsoft MVP, Windows Help



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[TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

2007-06-05 Thread Sue Heim
OK, I got one for you all...

We have this quick start guide. It's really not quick, since it's 20
pages. Previously, it was created in Framemaker and PDF'd. They did odd
things in Framemaker, by using extra paragraph returns to add blank space,
and they did this thing that just horrifies me:

They started out one column, for two or three pages, then it switched to two
columns for a couple of pages, then back to one column, then the next page
that was two column was weird (text on the left, screen shots that lined up
to a specific step on the right, so there was lots of empty space). Then
back and forth between two and one.

I hate it. I think it looks unprofessional. And I think it's a royal pain to
read.

I've got all the content in to AIT now, and I've created a newsletter
style template. With a one column SECTION at the top of the first page, so
the product name and title span two columns. Then the rest of the content is
all two columns. It's not all pure text.

My manager wants to go back to the one column then two column then one
column thing.

What would you do? A single two column document (sans the heading)? Or a
mixed one and two column document?

...sue
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Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

2007-06-05 Thread Dana Worley
On Tuesday, June 05, 2007, Sue Heim wrote: 

 Because, honestly, I think mute/unmute is
 pretty prevalent, and why would you want alternatives?

FWIW, unmute is not in Merriam-Websters, and if, in google, you 
type define:unmute you don't get any hits.  

Of course, all this reminds me of Pete and Repeat. If Pete and 
Repeat are running and race and Pete loses, who wins?

:)  Dana

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Re: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

2007-06-05 Thread Brierley, Sean
Hi,

I'd not rule out your bosses desires off the top ... I'd find out why
your boss wants that and then email the reasons to the list. I am
assuming he's reasonable and so has a reason or two 

Cheers and grins,

Sean 

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On Behalf Of Sue Heim
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:47 PM
To: TCP List
Subject: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

OK, I got one for you all...

We have this quick start guide. It's really not quick, since it's 20
pages. Previously, it was created in Framemaker and PDF'd. They did odd
things in Framemaker, by using extra paragraph returns to add blank
space, and they did this thing that just horrifies me:

They started out one column, for two or three pages, then it switched to
two columns for a couple of pages, then back to one column, then the
next page that was two column was weird (text on the left, screen shots
that lined up to a specific step on the right, so there was lots of
empty space). Then back and forth between two and one.

I hate it. I think it looks unprofessional. And I think it's a royal
pain to read.

I've got all the content in to AIT now, and I've created a newsletter
style template. With a one column SECTION at the top of the first page,
so the product name and title span two columns. Then the rest of the
content is all two columns. It's not all pure text.

My manager wants to go back to the one column then two column then one
column thing.

What would you do? A single two column document (sans the heading)? Or a
mixed one and two column document?


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Re: [TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...

2007-06-05 Thread Robert Shelton
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 See, if it were me and one of my audience couldn't see the content,
 during development when the audience numbers a dozen people at most, I'd
 be curious and nervous that somebody else might encounter the problem
 

And this is why you're a tech writer and not a developer. ;-)

(It's a *joke*. I know not all developers think that way. But at least a 
significant minority of them seem to.)

Bob
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Let what goes go,
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Re: [TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...

2007-06-05 Thread Sue Heim
If the tech writer had the correct system requirements and the app didn't
work, I'd try and figure out why. Cause, well, it's a BUG!
...sue



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 So,

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 then reply works for me and be good with that?

 Weird.

 See, if it were me and one of my audience couldn't see the content,
 during development when the audience numbers a dozen people at most, I'd
 be curious and nervous that somebody else might encounter the problem

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Re: [TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...

2007-06-05 Thread Brierley, Sean
He does.
 
Funny you should say that, cos that's what I thought. In fact, I
consider it a high-severity one. But the project lead I reported it to
and my TW boss seem to be okay with it. Weird.
 
Cheers,
 
Sean



From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:00 PM
To: Brierley, Sean
Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com
Subject: Re: [TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...


If the tech writer had the correct system requirements and the app
didn't work, I'd try and figure out why. Cause, well, it's a BUG!
...sue


 
On 6/5/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

So,

If you were making a browser-based app for sale. And, said App
didn't
work for your tech writer in the default supported browser, and
the tech 
writer said, the site doesn't display for me, it's blank,
would you
then reply works for me and be good with that?

Weird.

See, if it were me and one of my audience couldn't see the
content, 
during development when the audience numbers a dozen people at
most, I'd
be curious and nervous that somebody else might encounter the
problem

Cheers,

Sean





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Re: [TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...

2007-06-05 Thread Sue Heim
And the first time a customer has the issue, what will happen then? :)

Not to mention the problems one has trying to document something that cannot
be seen!

...sue



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 He does.

 Funny you should say that, cos that's what I thought. In fact, I
 consider it a high-severity one. But the project lead I reported it to
 and my TW boss seem to be okay with it. Weird.

 Cheers,

 Sean

 

 From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:00 PM
 To: Brierley, Sean
 Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com
 Subject: Re: [TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...


 If the tech writer had the correct system requirements and the app
 didn't work, I'd try and figure out why. Cause, well, it's a BUG!
 ...sue



 On 6/5/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So,

If you were making a browser-based app for sale. And, said App
 didn't
work for your tech writer in the default supported browser, and
 the tech
writer said, the site doesn't display for me, it's blank,
 would you
then reply works for me and be good with that?

Weird.

See, if it were me and one of my audience couldn't see the
 content,
during development when the audience numbers a dozen people at
 most, I'd
be curious and nervous that somebody else might encounter the
 problem

Cheers,

Sean





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Re: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

2007-06-05 Thread Sue Heim
My boss said, and I quote, it's one long vomit of data. Of course, all of
the headings are styled in the exact same font as they used in the previous
one, same amount of leading. I'd increase both so they'd stand out.

And it looks damned good as it is. Vomit of data. Just pisses me off.

The problem is, she designed the POC. And is taking it personally. And I'm
screwed. And I'm even more screwed cause she doesn't understand media
objects in AIT and so she's gonna break it and I'm gonna have to spend time
to fix it. Time I don't have.

sigh

Today I hate my job.

But seriously... what do you think about switching between column formats???
If you want to see an example, go to
https://supportimg.pgp.com/guides/PGP_Desktop_9.6.0_QuickStart_eng.pdf.

...sue


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 Hi,

 I'd not rule out your bosses desires off the top ... I'd find out why
 your boss wants that and then email the reasons to the list. I am
 assuming he's reasonable and so has a reason or two 

 Cheers and grins,

 Sean

 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Sue Heim
 Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:47 PM
 To: TCP List
 Subject: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

 OK, I got one for you all...

 We have this quick start guide. It's really not quick, since it's 20
 pages. Previously, it was created in Framemaker and PDF'd. They did odd
 things in Framemaker, by using extra paragraph returns to add blank
 space, and they did this thing that just horrifies me:

 They started out one column, for two or three pages, then it switched to
 two columns for a couple of pages, then back to one column, then the
 next page that was two column was weird (text on the left, screen shots
 that lined up to a specific step on the right, so there was lots of
 empty space). Then back and forth between two and one.

 I hate it. I think it looks unprofessional. And I think it's a royal
 pain to read.

 I've got all the content in to AIT now, and I've created a newsletter
 style template. With a one column SECTION at the top of the first page,
 so the product name and title span two columns. Then the rest of the
 content is all two columns. It's not all pure text.

 My manager wants to go back to the one column then two column then one
 column thing.

 What would you do? A single two column document (sans the heading)? Or a
 mixed one and two column document?


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Re: [TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...

2007-06-05 Thread Brierley, Sean
Yeah, agreed about the customer.
 
As for the other, well, I can see the site with non-standard equipment
(I have FF 2 installed, and it's an unsupported browser, but it works).
So, I can do my job.
 
Cheers,
 
Sean



From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Re: [TCP] Backatcha ... if the app doesn't work for the TW ...


And the first time a customer has the issue, what will happen then? :)
 
Not to mention the problems one has trying to document something that
cannot be seen! 
 
...sue


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Re: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

2007-06-05 Thread Brierley, Sean
After a quick flipthrough:

I think it looks better than I thought it would. However, I'd be
consistent about column use. I don't like the one column layout, the
column seems too wide. I like the idea of text in one column and
graphics in the other; for double sided printing, I'd switch the
left-right columns for balance.

Cheers and gluck,

Sean 

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On Behalf Of Sue Heim
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:04 PM
To: Brierley, Sean
Cc: TCP List
Subject: Re: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

My boss said, and I quote, it's one long vomit of data. Of course, all
of the headings are styled in the exact same font as they used in the
previous one, same amount of leading. I'd increase both so they'd stand
out.

And it looks damned good as it is. Vomit of data. Just pisses me off.

The problem is, she designed the POC. And is taking it personally. And
I'm screwed. And I'm even more screwed cause she doesn't understand
media objects in AIT and so she's gonna break it and I'm gonna have to
spend time to fix it. Time I don't have.

sigh

Today I hate my job.

But seriously... what do you think about switching between column
formats???
If you want to see an example, go to
https://supportimg.pgp.com/guides/PGP_Desktop_9.6.0_QuickStart_eng.pdf.

...sue


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Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

2007-06-05 Thread Brierley, Sean
Hey,

Telephone engineers AND communications professionals are my audience.
g

Cheers,

Sean 

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Subject: Re: [TCP] looking for an elegant way to unmute

I think we need more context. Because, honestly, I think mute/unmute is
pretty prevalent, and why would you want alternatives?

I just checked the help on my Blackberry and it says to mute do this,
to turn mute off do that. But my conference service is quite clear on
mute/unmute. The sound card on my laptop says mute (not turn off
sound).

So... Who's your audience, Sean? What's the context?


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Re: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

2007-06-05 Thread Sue Heim
It's a her not a him.

And it's not just a document. It's a document out of AuthorIT and she
doesn't know what she's doing. So iit'll mean taking a few hours out of a
schedule that is already impossible in order to fix things she broke.

And the only answer I've gotten out of her is the oh so lovely vomit of
data. Which, by the way, it's not.

Bleah.
Double bleah.
Is it Friday yet? :)

...sue


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  My manager wants to go back to the one column then two column then
  one column thing.
 
  What would you do?

 I'd ask him why, hoping that when he hears his answer, he's know it
 sounds odd. Try to get his answer in writing, maybe an email.

 I'd then do what he says.

 Sue...it's just a document.

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Re: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

2007-06-05 Thread Bonnie Granat
Hey, that's a great-looking piece of documentation, in my opinion. Keeps the
visual interest. Cool. Very nice.


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Re: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

2007-06-05 Thread Bonnie Granat
 

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 Hey, that's a great-looking piece of documentation, in my 
 opinion. Keeps the
 visual interest. Cool. Very nice.
 


And white space is good!!!


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Re: [TCP] Question on 2 column layouts

2007-06-05 Thread John Posada
 And it's not just a document. It's a document out of 
 AuthorIT 

Why should she HAVE to care what the authoring tool is?

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