Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I think can implies a cannot. Your can implies that the date range must be set within those boundaries. I don't think that was necessarily the case. If it was, then your suggestion does it. If the date range is not constrained to just those settings, then might in the original formulation gives the proper implication that you can set the range to whatever you want, but here are some useful ones for you to consider. Otherwise, without might-or-may, you need another sentence or some convoluted phrasing to communicate the idea of suggested options. Wow. Two months. This is like exchanging letters across the Atlantic before airmail. :-) -Original Message- From: tcp-boun...@techcommpros.com [mailto:tcp-boun...@techcommpros.com] On Behalf Of Hilda Alvarez-Strang Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:58 PM To: John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? Hello... Sorry I'm coming in late on this but I haven't had a chance to read list since November. I would rewrite it as follows: The date range can be set to the current month, quarter or sales quota period. Hope it helps, Hilda Alvarez-Strang Senior Technical Writer Interval International Miami,Florida -Original Message- From: tcp-boun...@techcommpros.com [mailto:tcp-boun...@techcommpros.com] On Behalf Of John Bell Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:05 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email t...@techcommpros.com. Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to tcp-subscr...@techcommpros.com Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to tcp-unsubscr...@techcommpros.com Need help? Contact listad...@techcommpros.com Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
Hello... Sorry I'm coming in late on this but I haven't had a chance to read list since November. I would rewrite it as follows: The date range can be set to the current month, quarter or sales quota period. Hope it helps, Hilda Alvarez-Strang Senior Technical Writer Interval International Miami,Florida -Original Message- From: tcp-boun...@techcommpros.com [mailto:tcp-boun...@techcommpros.com] On Behalf Of John Bell Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:05 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email t...@techcommpros.com. Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to tcp-subscr...@techcommpros.com Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to tcp-unsubscr...@techcommpros.com Need help? Contact listad...@techcommpros.com Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. _ _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com _ __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email t...@techcommpros.com. Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to tcp-subscr...@techcommpros.com Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to tcp-unsubscr...@techcommpros.com Need help? Contact listad...@techcommpros.com Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I disagree with Sharon and Paula completely... OK, no I don't. I just wanted to say that. Unless I was being sarcastic, which is rarely good in a technical document, I would not tell the reader that if s/he performed some action then some result might happen. In the past, I actually have threatened to do that in internal discussions with developers and their managers when they were being too iffy about this or that issue... but I've never gone through with it. (Yes, I'm a big chicken, but it happens that the offenders saw the error of their ways and didn't call me on it. :-) However, in situations where there are several optional choices that the reader can make, and various scenarios - perhaps some known and others not necessarily known - I choose might. Depending on your organization's security policies and regulatory environment, you might need | wish to invoke function X. That's the situation about which John B was asking in his original post. I wouldn't use may, because the reader is being given non-binding suggestions or told of possibilities that they might like to explore... not being given permission. Once they own our product, they don't need permission. Now, may I please leave the room? Cheers, - Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula R. Stern (WritePoint) Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: 'Sharon Burton'; 'John Bell'; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I agree with Sharon completely. Might makes me wonder if it is going to happen as expected or not. Click on the window and it might open...gee, that doesn't work for me at all. May is acceptable, though I prefer can whenever/wherever possible. My absolute favorite came from an Israeli engineer who gave me a document and asked me to edit it. He wrote the user shall. I wrote him back and said - God shall...the rest of us can... Paula -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:15 PM To: John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? How about You can also... I avoid may or might, as may can imply permission. Might can imply it could happen but we really aren't sure. Call us if it does because we never actually got it to work reliably. We'd love to know what you did to make it work. ;-) sharon Sharon Burton Product Manager MadCap Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 951-202-0813 Home Office: 951-369-8590 http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Bell Sent: Fri 11/21/2008 8:05 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
But couldn't you do that with You can? For example: Depending on your organization's security policies and regulatory environment, you can also [function X]. For more information, see your regulatory official. First thing I teach all writers is to start sentences with You can. It's not possible to write a passive voice sentence that starts with You can. Later, after that active voice muscle is nice and strong, we move to appropriate variants, like imperatives. Now that I laid that gauntlet down, I'm sure we'll all be trying it! sharon Sharon Burton Product Manager MadCap Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 951-202-0813 Home Office: 951-369-8590 http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ From: McLauchlan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 11/24/2008 6:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sharon Burton; John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: RE: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I disagree with Sharon and Paula completely... OK, no I don't. I just wanted to say that. Unless I was being sarcastic, which is rarely good in a technical document, I would not tell the reader that if s/he performed some action then some result might happen. In the past, I actually have threatened to do that in internal discussions with developers and their managers when they were being too iffy about this or that issue... but I've never gone through with it. (Yes, I'm a big chicken, but it happens that the offenders saw the error of their ways and didn't call me on it. :-) However, in situations where there are several optional choices that the reader can make, and various scenarios - perhaps some known and others not necessarily known - I choose might. Depending on your organization's security policies and regulatory environment, you might need | wish to invoke function X. That's the situation about which John B was asking in his original post. I wouldn't use may, because the reader is being given non-binding suggestions or told of possibilities that they might like to explore... not being given permission. Once they own our product, they don't need permission. Now, may I please leave the room? Cheers, - Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula R. Stern (WritePoint) Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: 'Sharon Burton'; 'John Bell'; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I agree with Sharon completely. Might makes me wonder if it is going to happen as expected or not. Click on the window and it might open...gee, that doesn't work for me at all. May is acceptable, though I prefer can whenever/wherever possible. My absolute favorite came from an Israeli engineer who gave me a document and asked me to edit it. He wrote the user shall. I wrote him back and said - God shall...the rest of us can... Paula __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
Kevin actually makes the point I was about to. I was not talking about a situation in which something 'might' happen. Even if I'm not sure that things are going to work the way they're supposed to in reality, I always say something happens. [And note that I also do not say will happen-more or less personal preference, but I almost never use future tense either, if I can possibly avoid it.] I use the word might to tell the user that it is something optional, usually. The user might or might NOT want to do whatever it is. IOW, we're exploring options. This is often content that is included in a Tip. I use the word can to tell the user that it is something they can do. Again, usually something optional, though the emphasis in this kind of case is to let the user know that it is *possible* to do something. And I will risk arousing ire by reiterating that I cannot think of a single instance in which one of these two words, in telling a user that something can be done, is not preferable to the word may. Good discussion here. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLauchlan, Kevin Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 09:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sharon Burton; John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I disagree with Sharon and Paula completely... OK, no I don't. I just wanted to say that. Unless I was being sarcastic, which is rarely good in a technical document, I would not tell the reader that if s/he performed some action then some result might happen. In the past, I actually have threatened to do that in internal discussions with developers and their managers when they were being too iffy about this or that issue... but I've never gone through with it. (Yes, I'm a big chicken, but it happens that the offenders saw the error of their ways and didn't call me on it. :-) However, in situations where there are several optional choices that the reader can make, and various scenarios - perhaps some known and others not necessarily known - I choose might. Depending on your organization's security policies and regulatory environment, you might need | wish to invoke function X. That's the situation about which John B was asking in his original post. I wouldn't use may, because the reader is being given non-binding suggestions or told of possibilities that they might like to explore... not being given permission. Once they own our product, they don't need permission. Now, may I please leave the room? Cheers, - Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula R. Stern (WritePoint) Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: 'Sharon Burton'; 'John Bell'; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I agree with Sharon completely. Might makes me wonder if it is going to happen as expected or not. Click on the window and it might open...gee, that doesn't work for me at all. May is acceptable, though I prefer can whenever/wherever possible. My absolute favorite came from an Israeli engineer who gave me a document and asked me to edit it. He wrote the user shall. I wrote him back and said - God shall...the rest of us can... Paula -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:15 PM To: John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? How about You can also... I avoid may or might, as may can imply permission. Might can imply it could happen but we really aren't sure. Call us if it does because we never actually got it to work reliably. We'd love to know what you did to make it work. ;-) sharon Sharon Burton Product Manager MadCap Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 951-202-0813 Home Office: 951-369-8590 http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Bell Sent: Fri 11/21/2008 8:05 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I'm willing to give on may and might, but I shall not change my position on shall. No, I shall NOT! Paula -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Beck Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:19 PM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? Kevin actually makes the point I was about to. I was not talking about a situation in which something 'might' happen. Even if I'm not sure that things are going to work the way they're supposed to in reality, I always say something happens. [And note that I also do not say will happen-more or less personal preference, but I almost never use future tense either, if I can possibly avoid it.] I use the word might to tell the user that it is something optional, usually. The user might or might NOT want to do whatever it is. IOW, we're exploring options. This is often content that is included in a Tip. I use the word can to tell the user that it is something they can do. Again, usually something optional, though the emphasis in this kind of case is to let the user know that it is *possible* to do something. And I will risk arousing ire by reiterating that I cannot think of a single instance in which one of these two words, in telling a user that something can be done, is not preferable to the word may. Good discussion here. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLauchlan, Kevin Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 09:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sharon Burton; John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I disagree with Sharon and Paula completely... OK, no I don't. I just wanted to say that. Unless I was being sarcastic, which is rarely good in a technical document, I would not tell the reader that if s/he performed some action then some result might happen. In the past, I actually have threatened to do that in internal discussions with developers and their managers when they were being too iffy about this or that issue... but I've never gone through with it. (Yes, I'm a big chicken, but it happens that the offenders saw the error of their ways and didn't call me on it. :-) However, in situations where there are several optional choices that the reader can make, and various scenarios - perhaps some known and others not necessarily known - I choose might. Depending on your organization's security policies and regulatory environment, you might need | wish to invoke function X. That's the situation about which John B was asking in his original post. I wouldn't use may, because the reader is being given non-binding suggestions or told of possibilities that they might like to explore... not being given permission. Once they own our product, they don't need permission. Now, may I please leave the room? Cheers, - Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula R. Stern (WritePoint) Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: 'Sharon Burton'; 'John Bell'; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I agree with Sharon completely. Might makes me wonder if it is going to happen as expected or not. Click on the window and it might open...gee, that doesn't work for me at all. May is acceptable, though I prefer can whenever/wherever possible. My absolute favorite came from an Israeli engineer who gave me a document and asked me to edit it. He wrote the user shall. I wrote him back and said - God shall...the rest of us can... Paula -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:15 PM To: John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? How about You can also... I avoid may or might, as may can imply permission. Might can imply it could happen but we really aren't sure. Call us if it does because we never actually got it to work reliably. We'd love to know what you did to make it work. ;-) sharon Sharon Burton Product Manager MadCap Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 951-202-0813 Home Office: 951-369-8590 http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Bell Sent: Fri 11/21/2008 8:05 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I'm apparently one of the few on board with may. For the usage you are talking about, may is probably the more correct. Might indicates a very weak probability that the user would want want to do so (you might want to...), whereas may indicates a significantly stronger probability that the user would want to do so (you may want to...). I would use can in cases where there is not implied probability, but you are presenting neutral options. Hope that helps, Andrew Wurzer On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I use the word can to tell the user that it is something they can do. Again, usually something optional, though the emphasis in this kind of case is to let the user know that it is *possible* to do something. And I will risk arousing ire by reiterating that I cannot think of a single instance in which one of these two words, in telling a user that something can be done, is not preferable to the word may. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
My choice would be a rewrite. Your sample sentence makes me think, But why would I want to do this? I would rewrite to something along these lines: To limit the records displayed, set the date range to something meaningful to you, such as the current month, quarter, or sales quota period. Or For the most meaningful results, set the date range to the current month, quarter, or sales quota period. No may or might, can or shall. Just an imperative and why you'd want to do it. Just my $0.02, which as we know isn't worth much nowadays. :-) Donna -Original Message- I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I disagree with Sharon and Paula completely... OK, no I don't. I just wanted to say that. Unless I was being sarcastic, which is rarely good in a technical document, I would not tell the reader that if s/he performed some action then some result might happen. *s/he* -- ? Ugh. Just use *they* It looks much cleaner. * Information contained in this e-mail transmission is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, do not read, distribute or reproduce this transmission (including any attachments). If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or email reply. * __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I was just replying that I didn't see a post from you on this, Sue. But your other post came through before I could. :-) In the may/might discussion, I like the example from the MMoS that you listed: If , you *may* need to . The word might seems too wishy-washy to me. I have flashbacks to an old Bugs Bunny cartoon where some police officer tells him, You might, rabbit. You might. (in answer to Would I turn on the stove if my friend Rocky was in there?) From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:57 AM To: Jones, Donna Cc: TCP List Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? Hey! My post three days ago said to rewrite the sentence!!! (But y'all ignored me! pout) If anyone cares, the MS style guide says the following (this is from the 2nd edition, which is online and easy to copy from). ...sue can vs. may Use the verb can to describe actions or tasks that the user or program is able to do. Use may or might only to express possibility or when the result of an action is unknown or variable, not to imply that the user has permission to do something. Correct You can use the /b option to force a black-and-white screen display. If you use the /b option, your code may not be portable. If the table overlaps the text or the margin, you may need to resize the table and wrap text around it. If the table overlaps the text or the margin, you can resize the table and wrap text around it. Many new programs might run very slowly on less powerful computers. Incorrect You may use the /b option to force a black-and-white display. In general, avoid could; it's seldom necessary. Might, however, connotes a sense of a possible occurrence without the suggestion of permission or recommendation, so it can be useful in some instances when may seems to imply permission. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Jones, Donna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My choice would be a rewrite. Your sample sentence makes me think, But why would I want to do this? I would rewrite to something along these lines: To limit the records displayed, set the date range to something meaningful to you, such as the current month, quarter, or sales quota period. Or For the most meaningful results, set the date range to the current month, quarter, or sales quota period. No may or might, can or shall. Just an imperative and why you'd want to do it. Just my $0.02, which as we know isn't worth much nowadays. :-) Donna -Original Message- I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com http://www.i3deverywhere.com/ ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com http://www.techcommpros.com/ __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I am trying to think of an instance where I've used might, and I think I've avoided it precisely because it trips me up, making me question whether it's the right choice of words. I tend to use this construction: If you wish to aggravate the fintoozler, you can... instead of You might wish to aggravate the fintoozler... The latter seems kind of flabby and weak to me. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Beck Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:19 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? Kevin actually makes the point I was about to. I was not talking about a situation in which something 'might' happen. Even if I'm not sure that things are going to work the way they're supposed to in reality, I always say something happens. [And note that I also do not say will happen-more or less personal preference, but I almost never use future tense either, if I can possibly avoid it.] I use the word might to tell the user that it is something optional, usually. The user might or might NOT want to do whatever it is. IOW, we're exploring options. This is often content that is included in a Tip. I use the word can to tell the user that it is something they can do. Again, usually something optional, though the emphasis in this kind of case is to let the user know that it is *possible* to do something. And I will risk arousing ire by reiterating that I cannot think of a single instance in which one of these two words, in telling a user that something can be done, is not preferable to the word may. Good discussion here. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLauchlan, Kevin Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 09:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sharon Burton; John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I disagree with Sharon and Paula completely... OK, no I don't. I just wanted to say that. Unless I was being sarcastic, which is rarely good in a technical document, I would not tell the reader that if s/he performed some action then some result might happen. In the past, I actually have threatened to do that in internal discussions with developers and their managers when they were being too iffy about this or that issue... but I've never gone through with it. (Yes, I'm a big chicken, but it happens that the offenders saw the error of their ways and didn't call me on it. :-) However, in situations where there are several optional choices that the reader can make, and various scenarios - perhaps some known and others not necessarily known - I choose might. Depending on your organization's security policies and regulatory environment, you might need | wish to invoke function X. That's the situation about which John B was asking in his original post. I wouldn't use may, because the reader is being given non-binding suggestions or told of possibilities that they might like to explore... not being given permission. Once they own our product, they don't need permission. Now, may I please leave the room? Cheers, - Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula R. Stern (WritePoint) Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: 'Sharon Burton'; 'John Bell'; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I agree with Sharon completely. Might makes me wonder if it is going to happen as expected or not. Click on the window and it might open...gee, that doesn't work for me at all. May is acceptable, though I prefer can whenever/wherever possible. My absolute favorite came from an Israeli engineer who gave me a document and asked me to edit it. He wrote the user shall. I wrote him back and said - God shall...the rest of us can... Paula -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:15 PM To: John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? How about You can also... I avoid may or might, as may can imply permission. Might can imply it could happen but we really aren't sure. Call us if it does because we never actually got it to work reliably. We'd love to know what you did to make it work. ;-) sharon Sharon Burton Product Manager MadCap Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 951-202-0813 Home Office: 951-369-8590 http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Bell Sent: Fri 11/21/2008 8:05 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
And I tend to write even more directly. I'd say To aggravate the fintoozler, do this, :) ...sue On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Chris Vickery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to think of an instance where I've used might, and I think I've avoided it precisely because it trips me up, making me question whether it's the right choice of words. I tend to use this construction: If you wish to aggravate the fintoozler, you can... instead of You might wish to aggravate the fintoozler... The latter seems kind of flabby and weak to me. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Beck Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:19 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? Kevin actually makes the point I was about to. I was not talking about a situation in which something 'might' happen. Even if I'm not sure that things are going to work the way they're supposed to in reality, I always say something happens. [And note that I also do not say will happen-more or less personal preference, but I almost never use future tense either, if I can possibly avoid it.] I use the word might to tell the user that it is something optional, usually. The user might or might NOT want to do whatever it is. IOW, we're exploring options. This is often content that is included in a Tip. I use the word can to tell the user that it is something they can do. Again, usually something optional, though the emphasis in this kind of case is to let the user know that it is *possible* to do something. And I will risk arousing ire by reiterating that I cannot think of a single instance in which one of these two words, in telling a user that something can be done, is not preferable to the word may. Good discussion here. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLauchlan, Kevin Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 09:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sharon Burton; John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I disagree with Sharon and Paula completely... OK, no I don't. I just wanted to say that. Unless I was being sarcastic, which is rarely good in a technical document, I would not tell the reader that if s/he performed some action then some result might happen. In the past, I actually have threatened to do that in internal discussions with developers and their managers when they were being too iffy about this or that issue... but I've never gone through with it. (Yes, I'm a big chicken, but it happens that the offenders saw the error of their ways and didn't call me on it. :-) However, in situations where there are several optional choices that the reader can make, and various scenarios - perhaps some known and others not necessarily known - I choose might. Depending on your organization's security policies and regulatory environment, you might need | wish to invoke function X. That's the situation about which John B was asking in his original post. I wouldn't use may, because the reader is being given non-binding suggestions or told of possibilities that they might like to explore... not being given permission. Once they own our product, they don't need permission. Now, may I please leave the room? Cheers, - Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula R. Stern (WritePoint) Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: 'Sharon Burton'; 'John Bell'; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I agree with Sharon completely. Might makes me wonder if it is going to happen as expected or not. Click on the window and it might open...gee, that doesn't work for me at all. May is acceptable, though I prefer can whenever/wherever possible. My absolute favorite came from an Israeli engineer who gave me a document and asked me to edit it. He wrote the user shall. I wrote him back and said - God shall...the rest of us can... Paula -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:15 PM To: John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? How about You can also... I avoid may or might, as may can imply permission. Might can imply it could happen but we really aren't sure. Call us if it does because we never actually got it to work reliably. We'd love to know what you did to make it work. ;-) sharon Sharon Burton Product Manager MadCap Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 951-202-0813 Home Office: 951-369-8590 http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Bell Sent: Fri 11
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I agree with Sharon completely. Might makes me wonder if it is going to happen as expected or not. Click on the window and it might open...gee, that doesn't work for me at all. May is acceptable, though I prefer can whenever/wherever possible. My absolute favorite came from an Israeli engineer who gave me a document and asked me to edit it. He wrote the user shall. I wrote him back and said - God shall...the rest of us can... Paula -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:15 PM To: John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? How about You can also... I avoid may or might, as may can imply permission. Might can imply it could happen but we really aren't sure. Call us if it does because we never actually got it to work reliably. We'd love to know what you did to make it work. ;-) sharon Sharon Burton Product Manager MadCap Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 951-202-0813 Home Office: 951-369-8590 http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ http://madcapsoftware.wordpress.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Bell Sent: Fri 11/21/2008 8:05 AM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1802 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 7:28 PM __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
[TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? For the sentence as written, might. (May implies permission.) For rewrite, replace may/might want to with can also. Char James-Tanny ~ JTF Associates, Inc. ~ http://www.helpstuff.com -- Please send follow-up questions to the list. (Inquiries sent off-list may not be seen.) Contact me directly (CharJT at helpstuff dot com) with business inquiries. -- Microsoft Help MVP since 2002 Find a Help Authoring Tool at HAT-Matrix.com ~ http://hat-matrix.com Co-author of Managing Virtual Teams ~ http://www.wordware.com/wiki AuthorIT Certified Consultant, Development, and Training STC Secretary, 2006-2010 Web site Hosting and Design ~ http://www.jtfhosting.com __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
Hi John, I almost *never* use the word may in technical writing. This is for two basic reasons: 1) May can imply the granting of permission, and that is almost never what I intend to convey. 2) I have found very, very few situations in which the word might or can conveys the correct idea just as effectively (if not more so) without the ambiguity. My 37¢ worth (accounting for inflation), Chuck Beck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Bell Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:05 To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May?
Ummm, correct that second point to read: I have found very, very few situations in which the word 'might' or 'can' does NOT convey the correct idea just as effectively... But then, I am sure you all meant what I knew. My mom was right: Always, Always, ALWAYS proofread anything before you send it off! *sigh* It's Friday. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Beck Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 13:03 To: John Bell; TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? Hi John, I almost *never* use the word may in technical writing. This is for two basic reasons: 1) May can imply the granting of permission, and that is almost never what I intend to convey. 2) I have found very, very few situations in which the word might or can conveys the correct idea just as effectively (if not more so) without the ambiguity. My 37¢ worth (accounting for inflation), Chuck Beck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Bell Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:05 To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Word choice: Might or May? I'm trying to determine which is the best word to use: Might or May. I am writing about determining which records get displayed based on start and end dates. At the end I want to offer the following suggestion: You may/might want to set the date range to your current month, quarter, or sales quota period. What's your choice (or complete re-write)? Thanks! --- John B. __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ ComponentOne Doc-To-Help 2009 is your all-in-one authoring and publishing solution. Author in Doc-To-Help's XML-based editor, Microsoft Word or HTML and publish to the Web, Help systems or printed manuals. Download Free Trial. www.doctohelp.comhttp://www.techcommpros.com/componentone/ Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com