Re: F22 RC3 no rpmfusion

2015-03-11 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qua, 2015-03-11 at 10:49 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Usually they don't branch in the same way as Fedora. They point their
 rawhide repos at Fedora Branched and ignore Fedora Rawhide for some
 months.
 
 Last they did that on 09-Dec-2014:
 
   $ md5sum rpmfusion-free-release-*
   b5e356996f3a9224ecb4797014c9f696
 rpmfusion-free-release-branched.noarch.rpm
   b5e356996f3a9224ecb4797014c9f696
 rpmfusion-free-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm
 
 Odd is that all of the packages still have a .fc21 dist tag, which
 means
 there has not been any rebuild for Rawhide either getting a .fc22 dist
 tag
 before Fedora Rawhide switched to .fc23.

Apart that we should move this discussion to rpmfusion mailing list ,
you got a point:
 http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/development/ stops totally
on 13-Dec-2014, so we don't have any package for F22 and neither for
rawhide , last updates of rpmfusion are in updates/testing/21/,
updates/21/ and releases/21/Everything/.

So for F22 I mean in /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free.repo,
rpmfusion-free-updates.repo and rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo 

You should change $releasever with 21. And you will find, already, some
packages need a rebuild ... 

BTW I'm building a koji server to make local builds of rpmfusion
packages, so this notes clarify what buildroot we should use ... :)
when finish (no ETA) I will announce on rpmfusion mailing lists , of
course . 
 
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 11:03 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
 
 These point to Alpha RC3 files.

Once again: stale caches. Refresh the page.

We've never once (IIRC) sent out an announce before creating the 
pages. Before relval, sometimes we'd forget to update the Current 
redirects, but relval does it automatically. It's very, very unlikely 
that one of these mails will ever go out again with the Current pages 
*actually* pointing to the wrong place. 99% of the time, it is going 
to be the cache issue.
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 11:37:57 -0700
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com wrote:

 
 
 On 03/11/2015 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 11:03 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
  These point to Alpha RC3 files.
  Once again: stale caches. Refresh the page.
 
  We've never once (IIRC) sent out an announce before creating the
  pages. Before relval, sometimes we'd forget to update the Current
  redirects, but relval does it automatically. It's very, very
  unlikely that one of these mails will ever go out again with the
  Current pages *actually* pointing to the wrong place. 99% of the
  time, it is going to be the cache issue.
 Just now I refreshed several times.  Still points to alpha.

Can you provide: 

wget -S 

output for any of these pages you are seeing RC3 still on?

kevin




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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX



On 03/11/2015 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 11:03 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:

These point to Alpha RC3 files.

Once again: stale caches. Refresh the page.

We've never once (IIRC) sent out an announce before creating the
pages. Before relval, sometimes we'd forget to update the Current
redirects, but relval does it automatically. It's very, very unlikely
that one of these mails will ever go out again with the Current pages
*actually* pointing to the wrong place. 99% of the time, it is going
to be the cache issue.

Just now I refreshed several times.  Still points to alpha.

Perhaps a pointer to the real files would be more useful.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX



On 03/11/2015 06:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

A bit ahead of the Fedora 22 schedule [1], Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose
1 (TC1) is now available for testing.

This wasn't scheduled till next week, but releng needed to test some
changes to the compose process and figured they may as well do it by
running a TC1 compose - so it's up for testing if anyone wants to do
it. It'd be great to get results in early for all the Beta and Final
validation tests. This compose has no specially-requested packages,
it'll be very similar to the 03-10 or 03-11 (not sure which) nightly.

As this wasn't formally requested by QA, there isn't a trac ticket yet.

Please see the following pages for download links and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org  should provide the
fastest download, but download- ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as
a mirror (with an approximately  1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with  download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

All Beta priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must
pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3]. For the Fedora
22 cycle we are also trying to run the Beta and Final tests at this
time, to try and identify later release blocker bugs as early as
possible.

Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the
test list [5].

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1]
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

These point to Alpha RC3 files.
A netinst install of Dev+Cre+MATE started nominally.
When I came back a couple of hours later the machine had
locked up.  After a hardware reset Fedora booted normally
but locked upinstead of presenting a login screen.
Intel 3770K, ASUSp8z77-v le plus, Nvidia GTX970

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX



On 03/11/2015 12:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 11:37:57 -0700
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com wrote:



On 03/11/2015 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 11:03 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:

These point to Alpha RC3 files.

Once again: stale caches. Refresh the page.

We've never once (IIRC) sent out an announce before creating the
pages. Before relval, sometimes we'd forget to update the Current
redirects, but relval does it automatically. It's very, very
unlikely that one of these mails will ever go out again with the
Current pages *actually* pointing to the wrong place. 99% of the
time, it is going to be the cache issue.

Just now I refreshed several times.  Still points to alpha.

Can you provide:

wget -S

output for any of these pages you are seeing RC3 still on?

kevin






[caf@omen tmp]$ wget -S 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
--2015-03-11 12:12:51-- 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
Resolving fedoraproject.org (fedoraproject.org)... 
2607:f188::dead:beef:cafe:fed1, 2610:28:3090:3001:dead:beef:cafe:fed3, 
2001:4178:2:1269::fed2, ...
Connecting to fedoraproject.org 
(fedoraproject.org)|2607:f188::dead:beef:cafe:fed1|:443...


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Re: Screensaver in KDE/Plasma 5

2015-03-11 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
 I am running what I think is an updated F22 system, and as far as I
 can tell, I have screen saver turned off.  But if I am away, for not
 sure how long it takes, my workstation goes to a screen for me to
 enter my password to get back to my desktop.
 
 I don't want that, not any screensavers nor anything.  I want it to
 always stay on. I also went through power management to make sure it
 was off there as well.
 
 I did all the normal things I would do when had previous versions,
 Fedora 21 and below, and they never did this once I configured it.
 
 What am I missing?

It's not screensaver and it's not connected to power management but
security. What you see is screen lock.

You can change it in system settings, go to Desktop Behavior, then
Screen Locking and set Lock Screen After to Never (just click spin
button down button several times).

For KDE related issues, k...@lists.fedoraproject.org is better list.

Jaroslav

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Re: F22 RC3 no rpmfusion

2015-03-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 07:32:05 +, James Hogarth wrote:

  It is a package you need to download from http://www.rpmfusion.org
  Look for target rawhide in the list.
  --
 
 Unfortunately that won't work for the moment as they still have not
 branched for the last ... If you look at the dist tag you can see rawhide
 is still being built against twenty-one there...

Usually they don't branch in the same way as Fedora. They point their
rawhide repos at Fedora Branched and ignore Fedora Rawhide for some
months.

Last they did that on 09-Dec-2014:

  $ md5sum rpmfusion-free-release-*
  b5e356996f3a9224ecb4797014c9f696  rpmfusion-free-release-branched.noarch.rpm
  b5e356996f3a9224ecb4797014c9f696  rpmfusion-free-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm

Odd is that all of the packages still have a .fc21 dist tag, which means
there has not been any rebuild for Rawhide either getting a .fc22 dist tag
before Fedora Rawhide switched to .fc23.
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Adam Williamson
A bit ahead of the Fedora 22 schedule [1], Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 
1 (TC1) is now available for testing.

This wasn't scheduled till next week, but releng needed to test some 
changes to the compose process and figured they may as well do it by 
running a TC1 compose - so it's up for testing if anyone wants to do 
it. It'd be great to get results in early for all the Beta and Final 
validation tests. This compose has no specially-requested packages, 
it'll be very similar to the 03-10 or 03-11 (not sure which) nightly.

As this wasn't formally requested by QA, there isn't a trac ticket yet.

Please see the following pages for download links and testing 
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org  should provide the 
fastest download, but download- ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as 
a mirror (with an approximately  1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To 
use it, just replace dl with  download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

All Beta priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must  
pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3]. For the Fedora  
22 cycle we are also trying to run the Beta and Final tests at this  
time, to try and identify later release blocker bugs as early as  
possible.

Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the  
test list [5].

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] 
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Beta_Release_Criteria
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Adam Williamson
A bit ahead of the Fedora 22 schedule [1], Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 
1 (TC1) is now available for testing.

This wasn't scheduled till next week, but releng needed to test some 
changes to the compose process and figured they may as well do it by 
running a TC1 compose - so it's up for testing if anyone wants to do 
it. It'd be great to get results in early for all the Beta and Final 
validation tests. This compose has no specially-requested packages, 
it'll be very similar to the 03-10 or 03-11 (not sure which) nightly.

As this wasn't formally requested by QA, there isn't a trac ticket yet.

Please see the following pages for download links and testing 
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org  should provide the 
fastest download, but download- ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as 
a mirror (with an approximately  1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To 
use it, just replace dl with  download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

All Beta priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must  
pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3]. For the Fedora  
22 cycle we are also trying to run the Beta and Final tests at this  
time, to try and identify later release blocker bugs as early as  
possible.

Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the  
test list [5].

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] 
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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Fedora 19 update testing

2015-03-11 Thread Jonathan Calloway
Greetings!

Are we to continue doing update testing on F19?  I have been having a lot of 
problems with my F19 image(s) recently, and I’m really wanting to focus on F20, 
F21 Desktop, and F21 Server.  Besides, I can’t find a recent F19 report. 
Besides, I attempted to run updates against my newest F19 image yesterday, and 
there were none to install.  

I’m sure the Fedora Project officially still supports F19, but I’m not sure if 
we are still testing updates on it.

Thanks!

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Chris Murphy
Umm, there's no live Workstation image. There's only a netinstall. And
http://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/ doesn't have
ßTC1 at all.


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Work around for EFI system partition corruption

2015-03-11 Thread Chris Murphy
Low priority: I'm tempted to nominate this year old bug as a final
blocker under the data corruption provision. And I'm wondering what
people think of this.

RFE: Do not persistently mount EFI System partition at /boot/efi
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1077984

A crash/panic or power failure has a high degree of FAT corruption
potential. The FAT kernel maintainer says this is more or less
expected and that the volume shouldn't be persistently mounted. The
RFE contains a ~18 month (or better) tested work around, using mount
options 'x-systemd.automount,noauto' to prevent it from being mounted
unless needed. At the moment it doesn't autoumount so it can still get
corrupted, but this is better than nothing.

The bug is an RFE so making it a blocker is, well, it's 50% RFE and
50% data corruption bug, and is an odd duck way of getting it fixed
but there's no traction in a year, not even a comment.

The problem came up again today on the systemd list where Kay says
Right, the Linux FAT driver, or maybe just the way Linux handles the
writeback to disk, is absolutely fragile. Corrupted FAT file systems
are the norm and not the exception. We must mount it unconditionally,
it will just break after a while.
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-March/029334.html

Hence my desire to escalate.


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Re: Work around for EFI system partition corruption

2015-03-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 21:38 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
 Low priority: I'm tempted to nominate this year old bug as a final 
 blocker under the data corruption provision. And I'm wondering what 
 people think of this.

I would vote -1 on it.

 The bug is an RFE so making it a blocker is, well, it's 50% RFE and 
 50% data corruption bug, and is an odd duck way of getting it fixed 
 but there's no traction in a year, not even a comment.

The release blocker system is for correctly identifying *release 
blocker* bugs, it's not a generic 'flag for attention' system. That 
was what we had before with the FXXTarget bugs, but no-one ever really 
paid much attention to them.
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Re: Fedora 19 update testing

2015-03-11 Thread Jonathan Calloway
Thanks!  Now I can finally delete that pesky image!

JC



 On Mar 11, 2015, at 10:31 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Jonathan Calloway
 jonathancallo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings!
 
 Are we to continue doing update testing on F19?  I have been having a lot of 
 problems with my F19 image(s) recently, and I’m really wanting to focus on 
 F20, F21 Desktop, and F21 Server.  Besides, I can’t find a recent F19 
 report. Besides, I attempted to run updates against my newest F19 image 
 yesterday, and there were none to install.
 
 I’m sure the Fedora Project officially still supports F19, but I’m not sure 
 if we are still testing updates on it.
 
 Nope, it's EOL.
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life
 
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Re: F22 RC3 no rpmfusion

2015-03-11 Thread James Hogarth
On Mar 10, 2015 6:46 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 12:52:52 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:

  Hi,
  while I was trying to install VLC player on F22 RC3 I recognized, that
I have on a new install of F22 RC3
  no package rpmfusion, I have had this package in F21 and the prior
Fedora versions.
  Will it come with F22 Beta or later? Or have I to download and install
this package?
 

 Yes to the latter.

  [root@linux joerg]# dnf search rpmfusion
  Using metadata from Tue Mar 10 14:26:07 2015
  Fehler: Keine Übereinstimmungen gefunden.

 It is a package you need to download from http://www.rpmfusion.org
 Look for target rawhide in the list.
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Unfortunately that won't work for the moment as they still have not
branched for the last ... If you look at the dist tag you can see rawhide
is still being built against twenty-one there...

VLC is even more of a special case as it's failing to build with gcc5...
But that has nothing to do with fedora.

There is no ETA on the branch or changing the target of rawhide at this
time if you look at their mailing lists.
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Re: Work around for EFI system partition corruption

2015-03-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Adam Williamson
adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 21:38 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
 Low priority: I'm tempted to nominate this year old bug as a final
 blocker under the data corruption provision. And I'm wondering what
 people think of this.

 I would vote -1 on it.

 The bug is an RFE so making it a blocker is, well, it's 50% RFE and
 50% data corruption bug, and is an odd duck way of getting it fixed
 but there's no traction in a year, not even a comment.

 The release blocker system is for correctly identifying *release
 blocker* bugs, it's not a generic 'flag for attention' system.

Which is why I originally filed it as an RFE. But since then it's
become much more clearly a consistent corruption problem and as such
is sliding more toward design flaw then feature request. I mean, no
one ever says hey feature request, let's not corrupt bootloader
partitions.

 That
 was what we had before with the FXXTarget bugs, but no-one ever really
 paid much attention to them.

Well the out in the data corruption criteria is document it, so even
if it doesn't get fixed there's more awareness...


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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2015-03-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 21:16 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
 Umm, there's no live Workstation image.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Beta_TC1_Installation#Image_sanity

  There's only a netinstall. And  
 http://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/doesn't have 
 ßTC1 at all.

Big outage today, could be affecting mirroring times I guess.
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Re: Fedora 19 update testing

2015-03-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Jonathan Calloway
jonathancallo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings!

 Are we to continue doing update testing on F19?  I have been having a lot of 
 problems with my F19 image(s) recently, and I’m really wanting to focus on 
 F20, F21 Desktop, and F21 Server.  Besides, I can’t find a recent F19 report. 
 Besides, I attempted to run updates against my newest F19 image yesterday, 
 and there were none to install.

 I’m sure the Fedora Project officially still supports F19, but I’m not sure 
 if we are still testing updates on it.

Nope, it's EOL.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life

Definitely proceed focusing on F20+.

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Chris Murphy
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