Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 01:38:31 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 11:24 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:55:47 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:27:18 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:01:04 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: That change also caused problems installing stuff with generic release that depend on lvm2. For example you can't build a generic live image that will have anaconda on it for live installs. Is there a bug? I'm not sure how that happened from this change... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1224561 Ah, nifty. ;( I think the idea was to have product (edition) dependent presets, but I don't think the implementation was done well. No, the idea was to move presets from systemd that didn't want to have to change them to fedora-release that makes more sense and is controlled by more Fedoray folks who can make changes as needed. fedora-release seems to be getting more complicated. This makes it hard for generic-release to stay caught up as a separate package. I would like to see generic-release merged into the fedora-release source rpm so that it is easier to keep in sync, if that is possible to do while still solving the trademark problem it is meant to solve. I'm not sure it is, but hopefully we can come up with something. Perhaps a easier way to merge changes from the fedora-generic one or something. It really *can't* be included in the same source RPM, because remixes wouldn't be able to ship the source, then. However, there's something to be said for including them together in the same upstream project and generating separate tarballs from the same source. generic-release is intended to be a template for people making fedora remixes. it is not meant to have everything that is in fedora-release or to even really be used, the people making the remix should fork it and make the changes they desire. I have added the base presets to generic-release and removed all the product sub packages. Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:46:53 -0500 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: I upgraded fedora-release and can now run an upgrade of my system but it still never gets a systemd upgrade past systemd-219-13. Is that the latest rawhide version? No. 220 has been out a while now. ;( Can you try doing: dnf update --best and see if there's some dep somehow keeping it from showing you the systemd-220 builds? kevin pgp_dWoH2X9jO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 13:38:31 -0400, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: It really *can't* be included in the same source RPM, because remixes wouldn't be able to ship the source, then. Has that been checked by legal? Having a trademarked image in a source file is different from displaying the trademarked image on a desktop or splash screen by default. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:27:18 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:01:04 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: That change also caused problems installing stuff with generic release that depend on lvm2. For example you can't build a generic live image that will have anaconda on it for live installs. Is there a bug? I'm not sure how that happened from this change... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1224561 I think the idea was to have product (edition) dependent presets, but I don't think the implementation was done well. No, the idea was to move presets from systemd that didn't want to have to change them to fedora-release that makes more sense and is controlled by more Fedoray folks who can make changes as needed. fedora-release seems to be getting more complicated. This makes it hard for generic-release to stay caught up as a separate package. I would like to see generic-release merged into the fedora-release source rpm so that it is easier to keep in sync, if that is possible to do while still solving the trademark problem it is meant to solve. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:55:47 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:27:18 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:01:04 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: That change also caused problems installing stuff with generic release that depend on lvm2. For example you can't build a generic live image that will have anaconda on it for live installs. Is there a bug? I'm not sure how that happened from this change... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1224561 Ah, nifty. ;( I think the idea was to have product (edition) dependent presets, but I don't think the implementation was done well. No, the idea was to move presets from systemd that didn't want to have to change them to fedora-release that makes more sense and is controlled by more Fedoray folks who can make changes as needed. fedora-release seems to be getting more complicated. This makes it hard for generic-release to stay caught up as a separate package. I would like to see generic-release merged into the fedora-release source rpm so that it is easier to keep in sync, if that is possible to do while still solving the trademark problem it is meant to solve. I'm not sure it is, but hopefully we can come up with something. Perhaps a easier way to merge changes from the fedora-generic one or something. kevin pgpSfrU6HkkGX.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 11:24 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:55:47 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:27:18 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:01:04 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: That change also caused problems installing stuff with generic release that depend on lvm2. For example you can't build a generic live image that will have anaconda on it for live installs. Is there a bug? I'm not sure how that happened from this change... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1224561 Ah, nifty. ;( I think the idea was to have product (edition) dependent presets, but I don't think the implementation was done well. No, the idea was to move presets from systemd that didn't want to have to change them to fedora-release that makes more sense and is controlled by more Fedoray folks who can make changes as needed. fedora-release seems to be getting more complicated. This makes it hard for generic-release to stay caught up as a separate package. I would like to see generic-release merged into the fedora-release source rpm so that it is easier to keep in sync, if that is possible to do while still solving the trademark problem it is meant to solve. I'm not sure it is, but hopefully we can come up with something. Perhaps a easier way to merge changes from the fedora-generic one or something. It really *can't* be included in the same source RPM, because remixes wouldn't be able to ship the source, then. However, there's something to be said for including them together in the same upstream project and generating separate tarballs from the same source. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:38:31 -0400 Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: It really *can't* be included in the same source RPM, because remixes wouldn't be able to ship the source, then. However, there's something to be said for including them together in the same upstream project and generating separate tarballs from the same source. And/or perhaps conditionalize the spec file so the same one largely works for both packages? kevin pgphnVyc9f1m_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 11:45 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:38:31 -0400 Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: It really *can't* be included in the same source RPM, because remixes wouldn't be able to ship the source, then. However, there's something to be said for including them together in the same upstream project and generating separate tarballs from the same source. And/or perhaps conditionalize the spec file so the same one largely works for both packages? Well, probably has to be a template spec that we generate a different copy for each package, otherwise we'd still be distributing potentially trademarked content in the spec file. But yeah, I'm sure we can design it so that most edits could be made in a single place. Does someone want to file a ticket? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On 06/10/2015 10:51 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: On 05/22/2015 10:52 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: On 05/22/2015 04:53 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 16:50:19 -0500 kevin martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: ...snip... Looks like somebody decided to move the 90-default.preset from systemd to the fedora-release package without changing the systemd package to reflect that and pushing out a new package (as discussed about a year ago). This was fixed in http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=638190 (systemd-219-14) It should have been in the rawhide compose, but you can get it from koji if not. (Or just get systemd-220, but it has some selinux issues going on) kevin Thanks for the info. Kevin Tried getting the koji build but there were too many dependency issues to install it and I'm still not getting a Rawhide version that can be installed. Still getting: Error: Transaction check error: file /usr/lib/systemd/system-preset/90-default.preset from install of fedora-release-23-0.13.noarch conflicts with file from package systemd-219-13.fc23.x86_64 Error Summary - Regards, Kevin I upgraded fedora-release and can now run an upgrade of my system but it still never gets a systemd upgrade past systemd-219-13. Is that the latest rawhide version? Thanks Kevin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 22:51:11 -0500 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: Tried getting the koji build but there were too many dependency issues to install it and I'm still not getting a Rawhide version that can be installed. Still getting: Error: Transaction check error: file /usr/lib/systemd/system-preset/90-default.preset from install of fedora-release-23-0.13.noarch conflicts with file from package systemd-219-13.fc23.x86_64 Error Summary - You will need to update systemd as well / first? Why do you have such an old version? kevin pgpd14qPH0Ty9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:01:04 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Looks like somebody decided to move the 90-default.preset from systemd to the fedora-release package without changing the systemd package to reflect that and pushing out a new package (as discussed about a year ago). That change also caused problems installing stuff with generic release that depend on lvm2. For example you can't build a generic live image that will have anaconda on it for live installs. Is there a bug? I'm not sure how that happened from this change... I think the idea was to have product (edition) dependent presets, but I don't think the implementation was done well. No, the idea was to move presets from systemd that didn't want to have to change them to fedora-release that makes more sense and is controlled by more Fedoray folks who can make changes as needed. kevin pgpmgw7dPL9gs.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On 05/22/2015 10:52 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: On 05/22/2015 04:53 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 16:50:19 -0500 kevin martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: ...snip... Looks like somebody decided to move the 90-default.preset from systemd to the fedora-release package without changing the systemd package to reflect that and pushing out a new package (as discussed about a year ago). This was fixed in http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=638190 (systemd-219-14) It should have been in the rawhide compose, but you can get it from koji if not. (Or just get systemd-220, but it has some selinux issues going on) kevin Thanks for the info. Kevin Tried getting the koji build but there were too many dependency issues to install it and I'm still not getting a Rawhide version that can be installed. Still getting: Error: Transaction check error: file /usr/lib/systemd/system-preset/90-default.preset from install of fedora-release-23-0.13.noarch conflicts with file from package systemd-219-13.fc23.x86_64 Error Summary - Regards, Kevin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
Specifically: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-free-updates' from ' http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-updates-released-rawhidearch=x86_64': Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: No URLs in mirrorlist, disabling. Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-nonfree' from ' http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-rawhidearch=x86_64': Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: No URLs in mirrorlist, disabling. Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'rpmfusion-nonfree-updates' from ' http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-released-rawhidearch=x86_64': Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: No URLs in mirrorlist, disabling. Last metadata expiration check performed 1:41:07 ago on Fri May 22 15:05:31 2015. Dependencies resolved. Package Arch Version Repository Size Upgrading: device-mapperx86_64 1.02.97-1.fc23 rawhide 248 k device-mapper-event x86_64 1.02.97-1.fc23 rawhide 193 k device-mapper-event-libs x86_64 1.02.97-1.fc23 rawhide 195 k device-mapper-libs x86_64 1.02.97-1.fc23 rawhide 308 k fedora-release noarch 23-0.13 rawhide 15 k fedora-release-servernoarch 23-0.13 rawhide 12 k lvm2 x86_64 2.02.120-1.fc23 rawhide 988 k lvm2-libsx86_64 2.02.120-1.fc23 rawhide 868 k Transaction Summary Upgrade 8 Packages Total download size: 2.8 M Is this ok [y/N]: Downloading Packages: Total 465 kB/s | 2.3 MB 00:05 Delta RPMs reduced 2.8 MB of updates to 2.3 MB (15.1% saved) Running transaction check Transaction check succeeded. Running transaction test Error: Transaction check error: file /usr/lib/systemd/system-preset/90-default.preset from install of fedora-release-23-0.13.noarch conflicts with file from package systemd-219-13.fc23.x86_64 Error Summary - Looks like somebody decided to move the 90-default.preset from systemd to the fedora-release package without changing the systemd package to reflect that and pushing out a new package (as discussed about a year ago). Kevin On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, kevin martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: Just an FYI, the latest rawhide update gives an error about usr/lib/systemd/system-preset/90-default.preset conflicting between the .13 version of fedora-release and systemd. Regards, Kevin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)
On Fri, 22 May 2015 16:50:19 -0500 kevin martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: ...snip... Looks like somebody decided to move the 90-default.preset from systemd to the fedora-release package without changing the systemd package to reflect that and pushing out a new package (as discussed about a year ago). This was fixed in http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=638190 (systemd-219-14) It should have been in the rawhide compose, but you can get it from koji if not. (Or just get systemd-220, but it has some selinux issues going on) kevin pgp1KAqsLxy7n.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
