Re: [TeX-Music] Hi all

2009-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Coulon

It seems the non-spacing chords at line 718 create a strange environent:

\Notes\zw{CG}\zq{JNQ}\nextstaff\roff{\zq{dg}}\zq{egik}\en

Say:

\stemlength0%
\Notes\zw{CG}\zq{JN}\qu Q\nextstaff\roff{\zq{dg}}\zq{egi}\qu k\en

instead. Seems MusiXTeX is unhappy if an extract doesn't use any portion 
of stem at all. Don't ask me why!


And I guess line 710 you mean 'insieme'.

Cordiali saluti,

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Re: [TeX-Music] Hi all: long stem

2009-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Coulon

Hope Don won't find this TeX example too long!

\input musixtex

\instrumentnumber{1}
\setstaffs1{2}
\setclef{1}{\bass}
\startextract 
\Notes\zw{CG}\zq{JNQ}\nextstaff\roff{\zq{dg}}\zq{egik}\en

\Notes\qu J\en
\endextract

\end

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Re: [TeX-Music] Hi all: long stem

2009-07-12 Thread Graham Norton

Hello All,

I can compile e.g. the example below, as well as adagio.tex and a  
number of other complex examples from WIMA, but cannot compile the  
simple example in section 1.2 of the Musixtex manual, v. T114 p. 3  
(after adding \input musixtex at the beginning).


It won't recognize the \begin{music} command. If I comment this  
command out, it won't recognize the \setstaffs command.
Seems like a very basic error and that something major is missing,  
although I downloaded all the recommended files.


[I am trying to install the system on an iMac, Mac OS X v. 10.5.7 (the  
latest),  compiling with Plain Tex in Texshop (v. 2.26, also the  
latest) and a rank beginner with musixtex.]


Any help much appreciated.

Thanks, Graham Norton.

PS Is a file of the examples of this manual available online (to avoid  
having to type each example in again when working  through them)?




On 12/07/2009, at 5:12 PM, Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote:


Hope Don won't find this TeX example too long!

\input musixtex

\instrumentnumber{1}
\setstaffs1{2}
\setclef{1}{\bass}
\startextract \Notes\zw{CG}\zq{JNQ}\nextstaff\roff{\zq{dg}}\zq{egik} 
\en

\Notes\qu J\en
\endextract

\end

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Re: [TeX-Music] Hi all: long stem

2009-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Coulon

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Graham Norton wrote:


Hello All,

I can compile e.g. the example below, as well as adagio.tex and a number of 
other complex examples from WIMA, but cannot compile the simple example in 
section 1.2 of the Musixtex manual, v. T114 p. 3 (after adding \input 
musixtex at the beginning).


AFAIK p.3 is part of Table of Contents! Do you mean the Mozart excerpt 
p.10? Can't you attach your sample file here?


PS Is a file of the examples of this manual available online (to avoid having 
to type each example in again when working  through them)?


AFAIK again, the LaTeX source of this manual is offered when you install 
the MusiXTeX distribution (thanks to Don). If you found MUSIXDOC.PDF you 
should also find MUSIXDOC.TEX and you should be able to copy-paste 
whatever example you like.


Regards,

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[TeX-Music] TeX, Latex and iMac

2009-07-12 Thread Graham Norton

Dear All,

Thanks for your replies and hints. Sincere apologies for the length of  
this reply.


A. The good news is that TexMozartp3.tex (see attached) did compile  
and generate the same output as in the manual  (except for the bar  
numbers). For this to work, the input file and the directory musixtex  
MUST be at the same level in the parent directory. This is crucial.



B. I did mean page 3 of the printed manual, not page iii. The example  
is as follows:



\begin{music}
\parindent10mm
\setname1{Piano}
\setstaffs12
\generalmeter{\meterfrac44}
\startextract
\Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en
\Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\ql l\sk\ql n\en
\bar
\Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{dgf}|\qlp i\en
\notes\tbu0\qb0g|\ibbl1j3\qb1j\tbl1\qb1k\en
\Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en
\endextract
\end{music}

which I can now cut  from doc/musixdoc.tex. Thanks for this hint.

C. I note that doc/musixdoc.tex (which I cannot latex) differs from  
the pdf file of the manual currently available from WIMA. I'd like to  
suggest that  the pdf version of musixdoc.tex be put on WIMA,  
replacing the current one.


On line 8048 of musixdoc.tex, we read:


 When producing this examples, care should be taken about the fact
that several given files are supposed to be included (by means of
\keyindex{input}) in other files. Thus the only good files to be  
directly

\TeX-ed are those which begin with \verb|\input musixtex| or
 \verb|% \input musixtex|. This latter command is often commented out  
so that

the examples can be run either using a \musixtex\ format including {\tt
musixcpt.tex} and {\tt musixsty.tex} --- namely the format generated  
by {\tt
musixtex.ins} --- or using a \musictex\ format including {\tt  
musictrp.tex},
{\tt musicvbm.tex} and {\tt musicsty.tex} --- namely the format  
generated by

{\tt musixtex.ins}.


It would be very useful if this statement (or a shortened version of  
it) were included as a footnote before the first examples in the  
manual . And 'begin{music}'  \'end \{music} ' should be removed from  
the example! ... it is a bit confusing here for the reader, as Tex is  
mentioned repeatedly as the preferred engine, and in Chapter 2,  
opening paragraph,  we are reminded that \input musixtex must be  
included, again suggesting Tex.


D. Including

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{musixtex}



\end{document}

around the example was a good suggestion. For this to work, my input  
Mozartp3.tex and the directory musixtex have to be in the same parent  
directory (i.e. at the same level).


Unfortunately it still won't complete, complaining:

!I can't find 'Mozartp3.aux,'
\enddocument

and hangs on
l. 17 \end{document}

with no pdf file generated. Definite progress, but this is strange as  
there are no e.g section references to generate such a file(??)


Seems to be a Latex problem.  Oddly enough, Tex does not complain  
about a missing .aux file, and does not generate one from e.g.  
adagio.tex.



Thanks again for your assistance.

Graham Norton

 

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Description: Binary data


TexMozartp3.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [TeX-Music] TeX, Latex and iMac

2009-07-12 Thread Graham Norton

Dear Don,

Thanks for your reply.



On 13/07/2009, at 1:47 PM, Don Simons wrote:


Graham Norton wrote

A. The good news is that TexMozartp3.tex (see attached) did compile  
and
generate the same output as in the manual  (except for the bar  
numbers).
For this to work, the input file and the directory musixtex MUST be  
at

the same level in the parent directory. This is crucial.


Not on my PC. TeXMozartp3.tex goes through just fine, straight out  
of the

box, without any musixtex directory at the same level as the source. I
believe all that is required is to have a properly set up  
installation of
TeX and MusiXTeX, with a path variable set to allow execution of all  
the
necessary binaries, and with musixtex.tex and all the musixtex fonts  
in
folders that TeX can find. In MiKTeX, the latter is accomplished by  
placing
the files in the designated user input folder or a subfolders of  
that, and

then refreshing the filename database.




I tried putting TexMozartp3.tex  in Downloads, a complely different  
directory which does not contain any musixtex software. (I moved all  
my WIMA downloads  elsewhere in a directory Documents/music).


Then I double-clicked on it to bring up Texshop (downloaded from CTAN)  
and it  compiled correctly in Tex . Perhaps it was just the initial  
run that needed them in the same position. No need to modify any  path  
names or a database.



C. I note that doc/musixdoc.tex (which I cannot latex)


When I first tried to latex it (not tex; it's a LaTeX file), latex
complained that it couldn't find backgrnd.sty. So I grabbed that  
file from

the musixtex.zip and put it in my user tex input folder, refreshed the
filename database, and the file compiles just fine.


No complaints about not being able to find backgrnd.sty ; it stops  with

!no room for a new count

l 400 \newcount\nofMPsegements

Unfortunately the log file is different and I cannot past the console  
errors.



differs from the
pdf file of the manual currently available from WIMA. I'd like to
suggest that  the pdf version of musixdoc.tex be put on WIMA,  
replacing

the current one.


There are two versions of the manual on WIMA. I believe that the  
directly

linked copy of version T.113, at
http://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/musixdoc.pdf
is the same as the one from musixdoc.tex in the musixtex.zip. If  
there are

any differences, please let me know exactly where they are.


I have not compared them in detail, but Chapter {Examples} in  
musixdoc.tex  is quite different from  \Chapter{MusixTex examples} of  
the pdf of T114 that I  downloaded.



The other one
that is directly linked is version T.114, at
http://www.icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/mxdoc110d.pdf
This is an extensively edited version. I am not going to remove it,  
because

I spent a long time creating it, and I believe it's a substantial
improvement over to older version. Some day I or some other  
volunteer may
create a new musixtex.zip; and when and if that happens, the most  
recent

version of the manual will be included.



On line 8048 of musixdoc.tex, we read:

 When producing this examples, care should be taken about the fact  
that

several given files are supposed to be included (by means of
\keyindex{input}) in other files. Thus the only good files to be
directly \TeX-ed are those which begin with \verb|\input musixtex| or
\verb|% \input musixtex|. This latter command is often commented out
so that the examples can be run either using a \musixtex\ format
including {\tt musixcpt.tex} and {\tt musixsty.tex} --- namely the
format generated by {\tt musixtex.ins} --- or using a \musictex\  
format
including {\tt musictrp.tex}, {\tt musicvbm.tex} and {\tt  
musicsty.tex}

--- namely the format generated by {\tt musixtex.ins}.


It would be very useful if this statement (or a shortened version of
it) were included as a footnote before the first examples in the  
manual

. And 'begin{music}'  \'end \{music} ' should be removed from the
example! ... it is a bit confusing here for the reader, as Tex is
mentioned repeatedly as the preferred engine, and in Chapter 2,  
opening
paragraph,  we are reminded that \input musixtex must be included,  
again

suggesting Tex.



Where to begin? I removed this comment from version T.114 of the  
manual. It
contains lots of references to obsolete components of the MusiXTeX  
system.
The corresponding text in T.114 is The file musixdoc.tex, the  
source for

this manual, contains many useful examples. In the
PDF, many examples are accompanied by a display of the code that  
produced

them, while for a
few only an image of the extract is included in the PDF and you'll  
have to

look in musixdoc.tex
to see the coding. I admit that I didn't go into the complex  
distinctions
between TeX and LaTeX at this point. But the idea is that in most  
cases, one
can copy the source from the PDF, surround it with the necessary  
boilerplate

including setting up the page size, 

Re: [TeX-Music] Hi all

2009-07-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Coulon

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Marcello Anselmi Tamburini wrote:

Ok, u'r wonderful. Now the long stem is gone, but now, in the extract you 
modified, there is a stem linking notes before isn't.


I imagine you've modified the r.h. only like this:

\input musixtex
\instrumentnumber{1}
\setstaffs1{2}
\setclef{1}{\bass}
\startextract 
\stemlength0%

\Notes\zw{CG}\zq{JNQ}\nextstaff\roff{\zq{dg}}\zq{egi}\qu k\en
\endextract
\end

Then you've left 'floating' \zq's at the l.h. and MusiXTeX attemps to link 
them to something. Also adapt the l.h. chord like the r.h. one.


I can't reproduce the problem with Don's \nq method.

If my guess is wrong please provide a very short TeX example that has the 
problem.


Ciao,

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