Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Am Samstag, 16. Juni 2007 04:34 schrieb Don Simons: Thanks VERY much for posting these files. It's interesting on several levels. Regarding PMX: I used the wonderful old program MidiNotate to analyze the MIDI file. When it creates its version of the score from the MIDI, there is no visual offset between voices. And at normal speed I could not hear any offset. But this is harpsichord music, which I'm so used to hearing played staggered that I might not have noticed anyhow. However when I slow it way down, to 1/10 normal speed, I can very clearly hear the offset. I guess the amount of offset is less than the granularity of MidiNotate's notational sensibilities. Regarding the music itself (which interests me greatly because I'm a harpsichordist): I've played some pretty obscure stuff (Weckmann, LeRoux, Galuppi, Storace [which I've also published]...) but never tackled any Royer. I'm not a bad player, but the technical requirements of his stuff are often beyond me. I can't figure out why he made it so incredibly hard to play, and when I do hear it played properly, I can't decide whether I should be more impressed with the music or with the technique required to play it. In this particular piece, one puzzlement is with the 128th notes...did he really think anyone could play this at a sensible tempo and make the distinction between them and the preceeding 64ths? I also wonder about how to divide between the hands the notes in bars 14-15, 34, and 36-37. There are certainly no hints in the way you've typeset it. Are there any hints in your source? Are the beam directions in the source the same as in the PMX? Are the notes all in the same staff, as they are in the PMX? The passages could both clearly be done straightforwardly with two hands, but I don't see anything that tells that to the performer. In my Storace, I adhered religiously to the disposition between staves in the facsimile, which in that case obviously dictated the disposition between hands. Hi Don, I will answer on your questions but I think that the other people of this list may not be interested in the specials of Royer's Allemande. Therefore I will turn over to your private address. Hermann As to your question about slur directions on graces, I'm afraid there simply aren't any options (yet) for adjusting their positions. (I did a double take in bars 31-32 until I realized that the upper slur really applies to the lower notes and vice versa.) Your best bet for now is to enter the slurs with inline TeX. You can both start and stop the slur on the main note by using \loffset for the start. Let me know if you want an example. --Don Simons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hermann Hinsch Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:34 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 16:23 schrieb Don Simons: Hermann, could you send me the score and or the MIDI? I'm curious to know whether the mismatch is audible. Just for the record, I misstated the length of the guarter in MIDI tics in PMX...it's 240, not 120. But I think everything else I said is accurate. I did a few more tests since then, and reminded myself that the special corrections I had programmed apply only to half-note and quarter-note septuplets, but not eighth-note septuplets or any 9-tuplets (unless the 9-tuplets are on dotted notes, e.g., cd05x9 ... ). I wonder if Score/Finale/Sibelius have any of these same issues. --Don Simons Don, you may find my score enclosed together with the MIDI-file. May I ask an additional question: Using grace notes would be possible to define the direction of the slur independent of the direction of the stem? As you may see in my score that rather often grace notes are placed too narrow together. In this case I suppressed the slur for clarity. Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music -- Dr. Hermann Hinsch Quinckestraße 44 69120 Heidelberg Tel.: 06221-436298 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Am Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2007 16:39 schrieb Don Simons: I've just realized that there is a way to allow MIDI 128th notes without PMX completely choking. But the resulting MIDI file will be flawed. The fundamental quantum of MIDI time is a MIDI tic which PMX defines once and for all as 1/15 of a 64th note or 1/120 or a quarter note. Since that makes a 128th note equal to 7.5 tics, which is not an integer, there's a problem right away. But that's not the reason PMX was choking. Rather, it's because PMX puts in a fixed-length gap at the end of every note, subtracting the gap from the length of the note. The default is 10 tics, which is 2/3 of a 64th, but longer than a 128th, so the logic was breaking down. You can forestall the locigal problem by shortening the gap to something less than 7.5. The command is e.g. Ig5 . With that the code will run. But for one thing, you're stuck with that tinier gap at the end of every note. (I haven't tested whether you can change it on the fly.) And for another thing, a flaw now comes about because a 128th cannot be represented exactly. As things now stand, PMX will always round 7.5 in the same direction. So if there are more 128ths in one voice than the others, they will get out of phase. Here's an example where you can hear that things get out of whack at the end: Hi Don, Ig5 solves my problem, thanks for your reply Hermann = 2 2 2 4 2 4 0 0 1 5 20 0 bt .\ Ig5 b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / d24 d d d / f24 f f f / == If there were the same number of 128th in each voice, then they would come back together: == 2 2 2 4 2 4 0 0 1 5 20 0 bt .\ Ig5 b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / d24 d d d / f24 f f f / === At this point someone might be wondering if the quantum problem comes up in more mundane situations with xtuplets, and the answer is well, sort of, depending on your definition of mundane. Since a quarter note is 120 tics, you can divide it evenly by 2,3,4,5, or 6, but not 7. I anticipated this one, and tried to build special logic for just that case (quarter-note septuplets) to keep them lined up. If that works the way it should, you won't get the quantum disconnect until you divide a quarter by 9. That one will not be fixed. --Don Simons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hermann Hinsch Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:12 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 16:48 schrieb Christian Mondrup: Don Simons wrote: The error appears to be caused by trying to make a MIDI file. It's not likely I'll fix it any time soon, as it would require major revision of the MIDI timing scheme. If you can live without MIDI 128th notes, you could make a separate version of the pmx file for the MIDI. They should otherwise compile OK. Rather than maintaining different versions of the pmx file the ABC preprocessor abcpp can be used for branching between MIDI and score compilation within a single file. See the introduction to abcpp in the tips and tricks section, http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmxtricks/abcpp.html Hi Christian, I will try this possibility later because I think that it will take some time to study this feature. Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music -- Dr. Hermann Hinsch Quinckestraße 44 69120 Heidelberg Tel.: 06221-436298 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Hermann, could you send me the score and or the MIDI? I'm curious to know whether the mismatch is audible. Just for the record, I misstated the length of the guarter in MIDI tics in PMX...it's 240, not 120. But I think everything else I said is accurate. I did a few more tests since then, and reminded myself that the special corrections I had programmed apply only to half-note and quarter-note septuplets, but not eighth-note septuplets or any 9-tuplets (unless the 9-tuplets are on dotted notes, e.g., cd05x9 ... ). I wonder if Score/Finale/Sibelius have any of these same issues. --Don Simons Hermann Hinsch wrote Am Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2007 16:39 schrieb Don Simons: I've just realized that there is a way to allow MIDI 128th notes without PMX completely choking. But the resulting MIDI file will be flawed. The fundamental quantum of MIDI time is a MIDI tic which PMX defines once and for all as 1/15 of a 64th note or 1/120 or a quarter note. Since that makes a 128th note equal to 7.5 tics, which is not an integer, there's a problem right away. But that's not the reason PMX was choking. Rather, it's because PMX puts in a fixed-length gap at the end of every note, subtracting the gap from the length of the note. The default is 10 tics, which is 2/3 of a 64th, but longer than a 128th, so the logic was breaking down. You can forestall the locigal problem by shortening the gap to something less than 7.5. The command is e.g. Ig5 . With that the code will run. But for one thing, you're stuck with that tinier gap at the end of every note. (I haven't tested whether you can change it on the fly.) And for another thing, a flaw now comes about because a 128th cannot be represented exactly. As things now stand, PMX will always round 7.5 in the same direction. So if there are more 128ths in one voice than the others, they will get out of phase. Here's an example where you can hear that things get out of whack at the end: Hi Don, Ig5 solves my problem, thanks for your reply Hermann = 2 2 2 4 2 4 0 0 1 5 20 0 bt .\ Ig5 b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / d24 d d d / f24 f f f / == If there were the same number of 128th in each voice, then they would come back together: == 2 2 2 4 2 4 0 0 1 5 20 0 bt .\ Ig5 b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a g84d g1x8 a b c d c b a / b43 d / d24 d d d / f24 f f f / === At this point someone might be wondering if the quantum problem comes up in more mundane situations with xtuplets, and the answer is well, sort of, depending on your definition of mundane. Since a quarter note is 120 tics, you can divide it evenly by 2,3,4,5, or 6, but not 7. I anticipated this one, and tried to build special logic for just that case (quarter-note septuplets) to keep them lined up. If that works the way it should, you won't get the quantum disconnect until you divide a quarter by 9. That one will not be fixed. --Don Simons ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Am Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 16:23 schrieb Don Simons:
Hermann, could you send me the score and or the MIDI? I'm curious to know
whether the mismatch is audible.
Just for the record, I misstated the length of the guarter in MIDI tics in
PMX...it's 240, not 120. But I think everything else I said is accurate. I
did a few more tests since then, and reminded myself that the special
corrections I had programmed apply only to half-note and quarter-note
septuplets, but not eighth-note septuplets or any 9-tuplets (unless the
9-tuplets are on dotted notes, e.g., cd05x9 ... ).
I wonder if Score/Finale/Sibelius have any of these same issues.
--Don Simons
Don, you may find my score enclosed together with the MIDI-file.
May I ask an additional question: Using grace notes would be possible to
define the direction of the slur independent of the direction of the stem? As
you may see in my score that rather often grace notes are placed too narrow
together. In this case I suppressed the slur for clarity.
Hermann
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% Allemande by Pancrace Royer
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Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Am Dienstag, 12. Juni 2007 17:26 schrieb Johan Tufvesson: Hi On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Hermann Hinsch wrote: I want to create a group of beamed notes with 3 64th and 2 128th. As PMX doesn't allow 128th notes I tried to insert musixtex code with no success. Any suggests? If my memory serves me correct, it is possible to make an xtuplet of length 1/64, with two notes. For example: [ c6 c c cx2n c ] I tried this but it doesn't work. I get the message Problem in function isetvarlen Hermann /Johan Tufvesson ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
The error appears to be caused by trying to make a MIDI file. It's not likely I'll fix it any time soon, as it would require major revision of the MIDI timing scheme. If you can live without MIDI 128th notes, you could make a separate version of the pmx file for the MIDI. They should otherwise compile OK. --Don Simons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hermann Hinsch Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 2:24 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX Am Dienstag, 12. Juni 2007 17:26 schrieb Johan Tufvesson: Hi On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Hermann Hinsch wrote: I want to create a group of beamed notes with 3 64th and 2 128th. As PMX doesn't allow 128th notes I tried to insert musixtex code with no success. Any suggests? If my memory serves me correct, it is possible to make an xtuplet of length 1/64, with two notes. For example: [ c6 c c cx2n c ] I tried this but it doesn't work. I get the message Problem in function isetvarlen Hermann /Johan Tufvesson ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Don Simons wrote: The error appears to be caused by trying to make a MIDI file. It's not likely I'll fix it any time soon, as it would require major revision of the MIDI timing scheme. If you can live without MIDI 128th notes, you could make a separate version of the pmx file for the MIDI. They should otherwise compile OK. Rather than maintaining different versions of the pmx file the ABC preprocessor abcpp can be used for branching between MIDI and score compilation within a single file. See the introduction to abcpp in the tips and tricks section, http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmxtricks/abcpp.html -- Christian Mondrup, Sheet Music Editor WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://icking-music-archive.org/ ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 11:57 schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem: This one works for me Andre === 1 1 4 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ w200 g44 g8Dx7n gD g g gg8 g4 g / = - Original Message - From: Hermann Hinsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Werner Icking Music Archive tex-music@icking-music-archive.org Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX Am Dienstag, 12. Juni 2007 17:26 schrieb Johan Tufvesson: Hi On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Hermann Hinsch wrote: I want to create a group of beamed notes with 3 64th and 2 128th. As PMX doesn't allow 128th notes I tried to insert musixtex code with no success. Any suggests? If my memory serves me correct, it is possible to make an xtuplet of length 1/64, with two notes. For example: [ c6 c c cx2n c ] I tried this but it doesn't work. I get the message Problem in function isetvarlen Hermann /Johan Tufvesson Hi Johan, hi Andre both of your suggestions work, if I use them in this test file: 1 1 4 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ w300 c44 c c c8 r1 [ c6 c c c6x2n c ] | g44 r1 g1Dx8n gD gD g g g8 g4 g4 / but if I insert one or the other in a longer score I always get the mentioned message problem in function isetvarlen isetvarlen is a function within the fortran code of pmx. But why does it behave in a different way in my case? Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Hermann-- Possibly because your longer score invokes MIDI. If it doesn't, yet still causes the error, please post or privately email it to me. --Don Simons (dsimons at roadrunner.com) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hermann Hinsch Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:57 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 11:57 schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem: This one works for me Andre === 1 1 4 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ w200 g44 g8Dx7n gD g g gg8 g4 g / = - Original Message - From: Hermann Hinsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Werner Icking Music Archive tex-music@icking-music-archive.org Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX Am Dienstag, 12. Juni 2007 17:26 schrieb Johan Tufvesson: Hi On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Hermann Hinsch wrote: I want to create a group of beamed notes with 3 64th and 2 128th. As PMX doesn't allow 128th notes I tried to insert musixtex code with no success. Any suggests? If my memory serves me correct, it is possible to make an xtuplet of length 1/64, with two notes. For example: [ c6 c c cx2n c ] I tried this but it doesn't work. I get the message Problem in function isetvarlen Hermann /Johan Tufvesson Hi Johan, hi Andre both of your suggestions work, if I use them in this test file: 1 1 4 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ w300 c44 c c c8 r1 [ c6 c c c6x2n c ] | g44 r1 g1Dx8n gD gD g g g8 g4 g4 / but if I insert one or the other in a longer score I always get the mentioned message problem in function isetvarlen isetvarlen is a function within the fortran code of pmx. But why does it behave in a different way in my case? Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
I want to create a group of beamed notes with 3 64th and 2 128th. As PMX doesn't allow 128th notes I tried to insert musixtex code with no success. Any suggests? Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] 128th notes within PMX
Hi On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Hermann Hinsch wrote: I want to create a group of beamed notes with 3 64th and 2 128th. As PMX doesn't allow 128th notes I tried to insert musixtex code with no success. Any suggests? If my memory serves me correct, it is possible to make an xtuplet of length 1/64, with two notes. For example: [ c6 c c cx2n c ] /Johan Tufvesson ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
