Re: [Tex-music] PMX dynamic strings and hairpins + staff jumping beams
Christian Mondrup wrote: After translating this back to PMX :-) I see that it works exactly as advertised, no new features required. Christian, I'm curious what syntax you tried that did not work. some stupid one, I guess:-) The above listed syntax works perfectly. I've updated score and source file accordingly. On the stylistic front, I wonder why staff-jumping would be preferred to ledger lines in this case. my wish for a staff jumping beam is not based on any _stylistic_ consideration but primarily on the wish to get as close as possible to my typesetting original (http://img.kb.dk/adl/aarestrup/noder/Laarem003.pdf). Secondarily I believe that the original printing of the song reflects some _pianistic_ thinking: notes in the lower staff are to be played by the left hand. I'm a mediocre keyboard player myself and would actually prefer to have all 4 notes in the beam group in question typeset within the upper staff in order to facilitate _score reading_. But my wife who is a much more skilled piani player says that a piano score typesetting should reflect _piano playing_. In number 2 of the Laub songs, 'Rør ej min Lok!' there are some cases of staff jumping triplets in the original score. For example in bar 1 the first triplet should have its 2 first notes in the LH staff and the last note in the RH staff. But since PMX explicitely does not allow an xtuplet to end with a rest I can't figure out how to PMX typeset the tuplet like in the source. Any ideas how to fool PMX to accomplish what I want? Bye -- Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org ___ Tex-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] PMX dynamic strings and hairpins + staff jumping beams
Don Simons wrote:
Olivier wrote
Dear Christian,
Would you like to get that?
% 24-25
m4400 b8 o> g c4 \MB{1.5}\ r4 r8 c |
L: fri-ske Kys, Pe-
m4400 (d bu4- Dmf-3+1 zg zd cu8+ )f-7 zg zc- [ g8++ o. e o. c o.
a o. ] cu za ze o. |
m4400 r4db [+2-2 g8 Df-2+1 o.-10 e o.-10 c o.-9 ]j r4b |
m4400 r2b r4b [jl a8 o. ] r8b |
m4400 Cb (u f4- e8 )f r8+0 rd4+0 f8s o. |
After translating this back to PMX :-) I see that it works exactly as
advertised, no new features required. Christian, I'm curious what syntax you
tried that did not work.
some stupid one, I guess:-) The above listed syntax works perfectly. I've
updated score and source file accordingly.
On the stylistic front, I wonder why staff-jumping would be preferred to
ledger lines in this case.
my wish for a staff jumping beam is not based on any _stylistic_
consideration but primarily on the wish to get as close as possible to my
typesetting original (http://img.kb.dk/adl/aarestrup/noder/Laarem003.pdf).
Secondarily I believe that the original printing of the song reflects some
_pianistic_ thinking: notes in the lower staff are to be played by the left
hand. I'm a mediocre keyboard player myself and would actually prefer to
have all 4 notes in the beam group in question typeset within the upper
staff in order to facilitate _score reading_. But my wife who is a much
more skilled piani player says that a piano score typesetting should
reflect _piano playing_.
Thanks also to Olivier for an in-line tex solution. However, since M-Tx/PMX
actually supports what I want to do ...:-)
...
It was the d*#@ line-ending characters! Why doesn't everyone just use
Windows? :-)
Dirk Laurie wrote:
Some of us are too poor to buy it, others are too honest to pirate it,
still others are too idealistic to use non-free software (among TeX
users this is maybe the largest group) -- and all of us enjoy not
having to worry about viruses.
I belong myself to that segment of mankind using open source linux
operating systems. When publishing the score contributed by typesetters
using musixtex et.al. and other input text based programs I always publish
the accompanying source files in the unix end-of-line format. That's _one_
possible source file standard format. Of course I could have chosen another
one:-)
The only clean solution: write your own input routine which is capable of
handling the different line end codings.
Feel free to use already existing tools like dos2unix / fromdos (vs.
unix2dos / todos) usually shipped with Unix-like OS distributions. The
relevant Debian package is e.g. called sysutils.
There is a powerfull GNU text file conversion utility 'recode' coming with
(probably) all linux flavours. It converts not only between end-of-line
formats but also between different character codings. I strongly recommend
that program.
Bye
--
Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer
Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus
Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark
Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org
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RE: [Tex-music] PMX dynamic strings and hairpins + staff jumping beams
Olivier wrote
> Dear Christian,
>
> Would you like to get that?
>
> % 24-25
> m4400 b8 o> g c4 \MB{1.5}\ r4 r8 c |
> L: fri-ske Kys, Pe-
> m4400 (d bu4- Dmf-3+1 zg zd cu8+ )f-7 zg zc- [ g8++ o. e o. c o.
> a o. ] cu za ze o. |
> m4400 r4db [+2-2 g8 Df-2+1 o.-10 e o.-10 c o.-9 ]j r4b |
> m4400 r2b r4b [jl a8 o. ] r8b |
> m4400 Cb (u f4- e8 )f r8+0 rd4+0 f8s o. |
After translating this back to PMX :-) I see that it works exactly as
advertised, no new features required. Christian, I'm curious what syntax you
tried that did not work.
On the stylistic front, I wonder why staff-jumping would be preferred to
ledger lines in this case.
--Don
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Re: [Tex-music] PMX dynamic strings and hairpins + staff jumping beams
Don Simons wrote: Christian Mondrup wrote ... I've run into a problem with a string argument to the PMX dynamics command D"bla bla". The string in question is "dolce sempre e col pedale" which is applied on a chord in the right hand piano staff. Well that's the problem. PMX was written for harpsichords, and they don't have pedals :-) All seriousness aside, the limit is now 24 characters. How big do you want me to make it? Dirk Laurie wrote: > > (Don: is there really > any machine around anymore for which it will be a problem if all strings > are allowed to be say 4000 bytes long?) I vote for Dirk's proposal:-) For now I use the suggested macro work-around. Staff jumping beams: In #4 of the Laub songs, 'Han læser sedlen' (just published) there are 2 beam groups across bar lines in bar 24-25. I've fooled M-Tx/PMD to do this by merging these bars into one 'technical' 4/4 bar and then inserting barlines 'by hand' (using a musixtex trick contributed by Olivier Vogel several months ago, see accompanying source file). However, I haven't succeeded in, _on PMX level_, to get the lower of these beam groups to jump to the left hand staff with the final note only. PMX doesn't like a jumping beam group consisting of a single note! I can live with the current typesetting solution but would like to improve it with the staff jumping feature. I'll be able to achieve that by means of inline musixtex. But I'd prefer a PMX level solution. In other words I (probably) ask for a new PMX feature. Bye -- Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org ___ Tex-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
