[Texascavers] Jumpin in a Cave commercial
:) http://www.cavediggers.com/thehole.html -- Mark Passerby Cavediggers.com
[Texascavers] Earth Science
Rains of near-epic proportions last year in Texas resulted in maximum water releases from Canyon Lake Dam for an unusually long period of time. The dam was built on the Guadalupe River north of San Antonio in the '50s, I think. The result, as shown in this aerial photo, was the total removal of sediments of all sizes and the detachment and transport of large and heavy blocks of limestone. There is a movement afoot to preserve the new and unique feature. The river has been a favorite of tubers and boaters with minimal experience for many decades, but now it's a whole new story. I used to raft there back in the '80s, once in a significant flood in which we went well OVER all bridges. Neat photo. http://www.canyongorge.org/ --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] VOT--Shadow Puppets--too damned good
Ya gotta see it -- Forwarded Message: -- From: REC > This takes the art to a level past what I've seen before: > > http://wind-drifter.com/HandPuppet.wmv - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Enhanced Mars--comments
A couple of comments about the Mars pit photos: That's pretty neat. Looks just like the bottom of most pits I've seen. And on the face of it, not much deeper, I'd say, than 2wice the diameter of the entrance. A lot of folks may not understand the surface features. Those of you that see blisters on the surface should understand that they are actually impact craters. They look like blisters or warts or pimples because the light is fooling your eyes. Try turning off the room lights, or even putting a lamp on the floor off to your lower left. Or, if you have the option, capture the photo and rotate it 180 degrees (either way, left or right as you think best). That should put the sun in the proper orientation with the shadows. It was suggested that to the (apparent) northeast, there are 2 more "sinkholes" that are potential collapse features along the same linament (linement, liniment, ?? somebody help--it hasn't made it into my dictionary yet). That these collapse features are on the side of a volcano (which may be spouting something other than clasical magma) the lineal orientation should be downhill (down stream, by gravity) if they are breakouts formed over a lava tube (if it even was lava). But they could be formed along spalling fractures which would (or could) put them transverse to the lava tube. I'd think that their circular nature would rule that out; entrances formed along joints and such tend to be more lens shaped or oval than circular. There is another a thought that the sinkholes are actually impact craters themselves which don't follow the rules of clasic impact craters due to some special characteristic of the surface and subsurface material on the day of impact. I vote against that, but won't throw it out completely. Stranger things have happened. Remember that the imagery may not be vertical and the pit wall may be steeper than it appears, even undercut as many such pits are. Also, the pits seem to be located within the margins of a very large and much older impact crater, since grossly eroded or, more likely, covered over by lava (or whatever) flows which moderated it's more prominent structures. Whatever the cause, I say again: neat pictures. And good work, Frank. --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Paging Eric Flint
Posting this for Felicia, as she has no internet at home. Eric, if you get Cave Tex, call Felicia at 656-4709, or if someone knows Eric's number could reply to me so I can get it to her? Thanks, Chris - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Colorado Bend SP Project, October 13th and 14th...
The Colorado Bend State Park project weekend is again up on Come helplocate, survey, and produce maps of all the caves on the 5400+ acreproperty. By last count, we about 400 caves and karst features inthe park, and no doubt many more that still have not been found. Wewill be camping at the new cavers' campsite, to the right of themain park road, on the road that starts right behind the entrancesign. Weather should be good, it's October in Texas:). The plan is to try to survey portions of Gorman Creek Crevice, the longest cave in the park. Feel free to contact us at c...@maverickgrotto.org, or look fordirections at http://www.maverickgrotto.org/maps/cbsp.html. See youon Friday night or Saturday morning Butch Fralia, Mark Gee, Keith Heuss, and the writer, Rafal Kedzierski _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us
Re: [Texascavers] Martian pits
Would dessication of a conglomerate result in sinkholes? It sure does not look like any kind of an impact crater or window into a lava tube. To me it looks a lot like a good old sinkhole created with hydraulic erosion. -WaV On 10/5/07, Mixon Bill wrote: > > Interesting photos, blown up and enhanced. It looks like there's a > relatively thin, hard layer of rock, presumably lava, over a deep > mass of looser material that has been sapped out from below somehow. > Doesn't look like a window into a lava tube, because the deeper stuff > doesn't look like solid material. Hard to judge depth (even if I knew > the scale), because it isn't really obvious that the bottom is seen. > -- Mixon > >
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Enhanced Mars pit photos
Let's see... I DO know of a guy who's "designed" some pretty good vehicles for going caving in Mexico... Now if his attention were to be attached to a Mars trip... -WaV On 10/5/07, David Locklear wrote: > > Surely our 1st astronauts there will have jet-packs, so it should be > pretty > easy to check out. But what if they find a pit at the bottom of the > pit > that requires rigging? > > Hopefully someday they will send a probe down there with a camera. > Could one of the rovers ride up to the edge and take a picture? > > David Locklear > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > >
[Texascavers] Martian pits
Interesting photos, blown up and enhanced. It looks like there's a relatively thin, hard layer of rock, presumably lava, over a deep mass of looser material that has been sapped out from below somehow. Doesn't look like a window into a lava tube, because the deeper stuff doesn't look like solid material. Hard to judge depth (even if I knew the scale), because it isn't really obvious that the bottom is seen. -- Mixon - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] RE: bat image
That's a pretty popular piece of clipart, David. Speleobooks even had it on a white-on-black T-shirt they produced, but no longer stock. BCI sold it for a while, too. -- Crash -Original Message- From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] On the cover of this old software manual is an old drawing of a fruit bat. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] computer software with bat image
This is 14 years old, but I just found out about it: On the cover of this old software manual is an old drawing of a fruit bat. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/covers/1565928393_cat.gif In the back of the manual is an explanation as to why they chose the fruit bat and also something about where they found the artwork. ( look somewhere in Dover Pictoral Archives in the 1800's ) Here is the full link: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/sendmail3/colophon.html David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Enhanced Mars pit photos
If you take the enhanced picture # 1 and rotate it 270 degrees ( counter-clockwise ) and look carefully just inside the shadow there appears to be a large area that is free of dirt. Why would it be free of dirt? This outcropping of rock looks like "a human hand holding a baseball." Also of interest is the pattern and the size of the breakdown. Is this the first confirmed cave breakdown? I don't believe you can really see all the way to the bottom in that image. Based on the slope and the darker areas, the bottom may still be 100 feet deeper. What kind of gear would you need for the rappel? A 9 mm rope? Surely our 1st astronauts there will have jet-packs, so it should be pretty easy to check out. But what if they find a pit at the bottom of the pit that requires rigging? Hopefully someday they will send a probe down there with a camera. Could one of the rovers ride up to the edge and take a picture? David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Puerto Rico adventure cave tours in NY Times
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[Texascavers] RE: Enhanced Mars pit photos
I thought the same of these photos, and more of the broader view, third image.? Maybe someone here can respond to my TAG-NET comments on the photos. Roger <> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
[Texascavers] RE: Enhanced Mars pit photos
Bill Steele posted from TAGNet: >>The links below show the original photo and the enhanced. You can actually >>see the pit bottom. It's pretty impressive, enjoy. Thanks for sharing that. Those enhanced pictures are the best I've seen. There is no question that those are real pits, and not pools or mirror surfaces of some sort. It's hard to tell, but it doesn't look like there is obvious passage at the bottoms. :-( Mark Minton
[Texascavers] Enhanced Mars pit photos
>From TagNet: Enhanced Mars Pit Photo's By: Frank Bogle (Knoxville, Tennessee) After Bill Deane's post with the Mars pits I downloaded the picture and played around with some photo enhancing software that came with my HP. The links below show the original photo and the enhanced. You can actually see the pit bottom. It's pretty impressive, enjoy. Thanks Jeff for putting them on tag-net! http://www.hiddenworld.net/tag-net/images/Enhanced_Mars_Pit_1.jpg http://www.hiddenworld.net/tag-net/images/Enhanced_Mars_Pit_2.jpg http://www.hiddenworld.net/tag-net/images/Mars_Pits_from_Web.jpg Frank Bogle RL 19788 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
