[ot_caving] Honda Fit report
My fuel-efficient Honda Fit now has 70,000 miles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Fit I have nothing new to report though, except that the car still has not been in the shop yet. One problem with all of the cars in this class is that the front plastic bumper is too low to the ground. This plastic piece gets all banged up from the dips and potholes in the roads, and the curb-stops in the parking lots. In my opinion, owning a car that is low to the ground is a dangerous compromise. Not only can you not see the road ahead, but in a collision with a bigger car, you are not likely to walk away without injuries. It is also uncomfortable and getting in and out of the car gets to be a monotonous task. The compact cars like the Fit use techniques to lighten the weight of the car. All of this causes the ride quality to suffer, especially on a long road trip. These would be hollow door panels, instead of sound proofed ones, small tires, crappy brakes, crappy shocks, and springs, lightweight seats, no roof rack, or sunroof, etc. I would only recommend this car to someone who requires a commuter vehicle in metropolitan traffic, and for someone that has to carry 3 passengers. I would recommend buying a used Fit, as they appear to be reliable. The new ones are probably too expensive to justify the savings in gas. I would like to sell mine for $ 11,000, but I will sell it to a caver for less than that. There are several for sale on http://motors.shop.ebay.com David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [ot_caving] Honda Fit report
David, I like Honda automobiles but yours doesn't sound as if it is fit for man --- or beast. Geezer -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:13 AM To: o...@texascavers.com Subject: [ot_caving] Honda Fit report My fuel-efficient Honda Fit now has 70,000 miles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Fit I have nothing new to report though, except that the car still has not been in the shop yet. One problem with all of the cars in this class is that the front plastic bumper is too low to the ground. This plastic piece gets all banged up from the dips and potholes in the roads, and the curb-stops in the parking lots. In my opinion, owning a car that is low to the ground is a dangerous compromise. Not only can you not see the road ahead, but in a collision with a bigger car, you are not likely to walk away without injuries. It is also uncomfortable and getting in and out of the car gets to be a monotonous task. The compact cars like the Fit use techniques to lighten the weight of the car. All of this causes the ride quality to suffer, especially on a long road trip. These would be hollow door panels, instead of sound proofed ones, small tires, crappy brakes, crappy shocks, and springs, lightweight seats, no roof rack, or sunroof, etc. I would only recommend this car to someone who requires a commuter vehicle in metropolitan traffic, and for someone that has to carry 3 passengers. I would recommend buying a used Fit, as they appear to be reliable. The new ones are probably too expensive to justify the savings in gas. I would like to sell mine for $ 11,000, but I will sell it to a caver for less than that. There are several for sale on http://motors.shop.ebay.com David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] a good samaritan story
I am sitting around the house Saturday afternoon, and the phone is ringing off the wall. I thought it was strange that a telemarketer could be so persistent, and after about 5 calls, they finally left a message on the recorder. It was someone who didn't speak English, and I only heard the word Goodwill, so I presumed they were asking for a donation. A short while later, my wife came home and she was distraught. She had lost her purse again ( the 3rd time in less than 5 months. ) It sounded like she had lost our house payment, but she was so upset, I couldn't make any sense out of her as she was having a nervous breakdown. As she drove off to re-trace her footsteps, I tried to warn her that she was not in a condition to drive, especially since she had lost her driver's license. About 2 hours later, she returned empty handed crying. It is really hard to comfort a hard-headed person who doesn't learn from their mistakes, but I did the best I could under the circumstances. I asked her where she last saw the purse and she said the Goodwill store. I told her that somebody from Goodwill had been calling the house like crazy for the past 2 hours. My wife had been back to the Goodwill store and nobody there had seen it. I called the store myself and they told me the same thing. Fortunately, we had an answering machine, and the people that found her purse had left a vague message that they would call us back. I tried to *69 them, but that did not work. We normally don't answer our home phone because 90 percent of the calls are solicitors or creditors. So, we patiently waited by the phone. They finally called back.They lived less than an hour away and my wife was able to retrieve her purse. There is a moral to this story.Never put all your eggs in one basket. Never carry your valuables when you don't need to. I have 2 wallets and only carry one with me and hide the other at home or in the car's spare tire compartment. I keep a little bit in each. I don't normally carry much cash on me. Keep your charge cards in a safe place. Ladies should not carry so much important stuff in their purses. People who carry a lot of keys on one key-chain are just shooting themselves in the foot. Get 2 or 3 key-chains and carry only the keys you need to where you are going. Leave the other key chains in the glove box or at home. Don't let yourself get distracted in public places. Don't set your wallet down on the counter of the register.Use zippered pockets when traveling. Keep your purse zipped up. I am sure there are many more tips. We lucked out again this time. David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [ot_caving] a good samaritan story
And Listen to your messages to see if you mom is in the hospital or someone found your purse? I was brought up to answer the phone and buisness or emergency is important!! List you phone on the do not call list! The one time I was not home prior to haivng an answering machine my cousin called to tell me his dad died and when the funeral was. I had enough time to get to Amarillo when I got home from a caving trip if I had had an answering machine at that time. But I missed it and have still felt bad some 15 or 20 years since. Quinta
Re: [ot_caving] a good samaritan story
the national do not call registry only works for telemarketers, debt collectors can still call cause they're not trying to sell you anything, they just want to recover the money people owes to financial institutions. Nico former American Express collector On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:33 AM, qui...@clearwire.net wrote: And Listen to your messages to see if you mom is in the hospital or someone found your purse? I was brought up to answer the phone and buisness or emergency is important!! List you phone on the do not call list! The one time I was not home prior to haivng an answering machine my cousin called to tell me his dad died and when the funeral was. I had enough time to get to Amarillo when I got home from a caving trip if I had had an answering machine at that time. But I missed it and have still felt bad some 15 or 20 years since. Quinta
Re: [ot_caving] a good samaritan story
Once again David, your reasoning, lack of contingency and planning baffles me... -WaV On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:37 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: I am sitting around the house Saturday afternoon, and the phone is ringing off the wall. I thought it was strange that a telemarketer could be so persistent, and after about 5 calls, they finally left a message on the recorder. It was someone who didn't speak English, and I only heard the word Goodwill, so I presumed they were asking for a donation. A short while later, my wife came home and she was distraught. She had lost her purse again ( the 3rd time in less than 5 months. ) I
Re: [ot_caving] computer question
Hi everyone, Thank you to all who answered. I have McAfee and Ad-Aware. I tried Don's suggestion and was able to see the processes that are running. I don't have the faintest idea what these processes are and therefore do not know which ones if any are not suppose to be there. But my computer seems to be running better after running Ad-Aware once and McAfee twice. I'm still seeing the pop up that says a program is running when I turn off the computer. I always close out all the programs I'm using before I shut down so that is still a mystery. Thanks again. Cindy On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: Also I should add that not all programs like these 'play by the rules' You may have to try and hunt them down and kill them. The result of application murder - as I like to call it - may result in a confused system registry. The way to do this is to find the culprit on your hard drive and erase the executable or the directory it resides in. Sometimes a registry will rebuild itself appropriately when you do this - other times it may not and you will get a pesky reminder every once and a while that the system cant find some program what you really didnt want anyway! To find the culprit - you can do a system search for a file named [application you have the hate for]. You may have to run 'Regedit', go into the edit tab and do a find for the name of that program. When it finds it in the registry, it will indicate where it resides on your hard drive. Ideally, every program should have a means to delete itself, but unfortunately the world aint a perfect place (and sometimes even the lawmakers and police are corrupt and are only serving their interests and not that of the public.) In a nutshell - WaVy On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: It varies based on what operating system you are using. Hopefully it isnt Vista - 'cause I'm deliberately Vista Illiterate :-) But you can try the following if its Win2000 or XP: Hold Cntl-Alt-Del Then a panel/popup thingy should show up that has tabs such as Applications Processes Performance Networking Users Select Processes and identify the program that is doing this You might want to write down the name of the process that you know you dont like Use the Start 'button' on the lower left hand of your screen and find Control Panel - it should be somewhere in there Then go into control panel - find the icon that says Add or remove programs You might be able to match up the name of the offending executilbe with one displayed in the list of Processes, If so - delete it. Of course you could have selected the offending process by it's image name in the Task Manager's Processes tab, then gone down to the End Process button and hit it. But if the process is spawned by the User Name 'SYSTEM' it won't let you end it. Also, you'd have to go back through the same process every time - so it'd be better to try and wipe out the app rather than stopping it. There are viral ware and spyware products available from McAfee and Symantic - I've not always had total satifsfaction with these. And of course - the only way to get rid of REALLY nasty spyware and malware is to wipe out EVERYTHING with a byte by byte disk rewriter and start all over again with a fresh operating system. -WaVy (not responcible for financial, temporal or relationship losses due to any advice given in this forum - use entirely at your own risk) On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Cynthia Lee cynthiale...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, Can anyone tell me 1) how I can tell if an unwanted program is running behind the scene on my computer and 2) if so how do I get rid of it? Thanks, Cindy
[Texascavers] book review: Cave diving
The Cave Diving Group Manual. Edited by A. M. Ward and C. P. Hayward. Cave Diving Group, [United Kingdom]; 2008. ISBN 978-0-901031-04-4. 7 by 10 inches, xi+171+xxxvii pages, softbound. £27.50. The Cave Diving Group's previous manual was published in 1990, so it was definitely due for an update. In Britain, cave diving means solo side-mount sump diving, and that is the main subject of the manual. In the US, sump diving is considered a specialty to be tackled only after one has received full cave-diving training and certification, although, inevitably, some cavers far from Florida will undertake sump diving without having gone through all that expense. For them, this book will be especially important, although of course the ritual caution that one shouldn't try it based only on book-learning is rightly made. In Britain, cave-diving is a specialized form of caving, not diving, and a potential cave-diver must have dry-caving experience to even be accepted as a CDG trainee. In noteworthy contrast to US practice, CDG members never charge for training. The various (unidentified) authors vary conspicuously in literacy, but everything is clear enough. The sump-diving stuff will be helpful to a US cave-diver wanting to advance to sump diving. But there are also chapters on advanced topics more useful in places with longer or deeper sumps or underwater caves, including mixed-gas diving, scooters, and rebreathers. These sections focus mainly on hazards peculiar to using those in caves, rather than basic training, which you are assumed to have gotten elsewhere. One covered British specialty has, so far as I know, not been done over here because we are not yet that desperate: underwater digging. Some British divers pursue underwater digs in a way that can only be called fanatical. I read in the Cave Diving Group Newsletter of one caver who has made 180 dives to the same dig so far. Little effort has been made to make the book inexpensive, unfortunately. There are enough color photos that one pays color laser- printing prices for the entire book, and this, coupled with the mandatory airmail shipping to the US, makes the total cost something over $80, depending on the currency conversion at the time you order. The hard-core or rich American cave-diver with ten tanks and regulators and two scooters may not cringe at the price, but it is not for him that this book was written. Order using PayPal at http://cavedivinggroup.org.uk . --Bill Mixon -- You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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[Texascavers] Swimming at Pete and Jocie's
We will be starting the swimming season with an afternoon swim on Memorial Day 2:00 to 6:00 or so (Monday May 26th). We will have Sunday Swims each Sunday in June 2:00 to 6:00 or so.I'm thinking of having the Pond Party on July 19th. Anyone who knows of a major caver conflict on that date, please call me at 512-258-8384 or M 512-897-9235. Thanks, Pete - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[NMCAVER] Memorial Day Regional
Hi all! Just a note to remind everyone about the SWR regional this coming weekend in the Gila Nat'l Forest of SW New Mexico. This is an area that the caving community has never really checked out. We (the Mesilla Valley Grotto) were only told of the one cave in the area that we know of a few months ago and have made one trip to the area. This cave is called Georgetown Crevice and is a steeply sloping fissure that opens up into a decorated room at the bottom. We surveyed the fissure portion at around 200 feet, 140 feet of which is vertical. It is a pretty easy drop that can be done with a 250' rope or a couple of 150's. (There are numerous landings and rigging points on the way down.) We think the cave is formed on a contact between San Andres limestone and some sort of metamorphic rock (andesite?).At the bottom is a tight squeeze that opens up into a slanting, decorated area. There are rumors of more to the cave. While this area is not known for caves, there is a surprising amount of limestone around, and ridgewalking could be profitable. I just checked the weather predictions and while there is a chance of a thunderstorm on Friday, Saturday through Monday should be fantastic! I'm attaching a picture of the beautiful camping area so you know what to expect when you get there. I'm also attaching the regional notice that was sent out by a separate mailing, in case you didn't get that or have lost it. Georgetown Road is an excellent graveled road. No one should have any trouble getting there. In fact we'll be bringing our travel trailer. Hope to see everyone there!   Steve Peerman Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in you sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written this. ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
Re: [NMCAVER] Memorial Day Regional
Have a really great time, everybody!!! Jacqui - Original Message - From: Steve Peerman To: nmcaver Cc: David Winnett ; Andy Eby Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: [NMCAVER] Memorial Day Regional ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
