texascavers Digest 23 Dec 2009 17:55:16 -0000 Issue 932
texascavers Digest 23 Dec 2009 17:55:16 - Issue 932 Topics (messages 13145 through 13158): Mapping the underground 13145 by: William H. Russell portable ladders 13146 by: David 13149 by: Fritz Holt 13150 by: Allan Cobb Re: san antonio light article 13147 by: Butch Fralia 13148 by: George Veni 13151 by: Louise Power 13153 by: caverarch.aol.com 13154 by: Ron Ralph AMCS web site 13152 by: Mixon Bill Historical Newspapers 13155 by: Joe Evelynn Mitchell Happy Birthday George-Paul! 13156 by: Lyndon Tiu NSS business from Scott Fee 13157 by: David Caudle fund-raising info about conservation projects 13158 by: Mixon Bill Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Carol Russell passed this on to me from the Maps, Air Photo GIS Form: Call for papers - 2010 RGS-IBG Annual International Conference, 1-3rd September 2010, London, UK Mapping Underground Representing Subterranean Spaces, Practices and Cultures Session organisers: Martin Dodge and Chris Perkins Geography, School of Environment Development, University of Manchester Context: What lies beneath the ground is hidden and usually unrepresented but is vital for many spaces and practices occurring above. In these concealed and largely impenetrable subterranean spaces lurk unknown dangers and the possibilities for adventurous exploration; moreover they serve as potentially profitable resources, as engineering challenges to overcome, as risks to be mapped and managed, as a spring of spiritual well-being or the site of death and burial, as the source of artefacts of the human past to be recovered and conserved, and as a scientific record of geologic histories. The diversity of subterranean spaces, practices and cultures have attracted scholarly attention including concern for symbolic and multi-layered mythologies of representation (Rosalind Williams, David Pike), the strangely sublime nature of underground infrastructures like drains and ducts (Paul Dobraszczyk, Geoff Manaugh), the psychic anxieties of the unmappable underground (Steve Pile), the political economy and social ecology of subterranean facilities and flow (Matthew Gandy, Maria Kaika). Beyond the academy there is also burgeoning 'amateur' interest in charting the subterranean extent of cities (with substantial books documenting the arcane underground features of, for example, Liverpool, London, Manchester and Manhattan), along with obsessive collecting behaviour of enthusiasts mapping out all the tunnels and 'lost' stations, and recording war-time bunkers, emergency shelters and other forgotten subterranean heritage. On most topographic maps the representation of space stops at the ground level but there are many specialised geographic visualizations of the underground. Examples include colourful and cryptically labelled geological maps, complex engineering plans of tunnels and sewers, volumetric models, and profiles of strata employed in oil exploration and mineral extraction, geo-physical subsurface displays produced with reflected mapping of radar and sound waves penetrating the solid ground surface. We seek theoretically informed papers that consider how and why the underground has been mapped (and not mapped), relating characteristics of subterranean spaces to different forms of representational practice and visual culture. Proposed papers with a title and short abstract (250 words maximum) should be submitted to Martin Dodge (m.do...@manchester.ac.uk) by 31 January 2010. Further details on conference are at www.rgs.org/AC2010 This announcement was somewhat abbreviated for Texascavers. These people have a strange idea of the underground. Cavers need to show them them how to map the real underground. Bill Russell -- William Hart Russell 4806 Red River Street Austin, TX 78751 H: 512-453-4774 (messages) CELL: 512-940-8336 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I think someone posted this a few years ago. But the company in the link below now has a portable ladder rated for 300 pounds. http://www.xtendandclimb.com/index.htm They claim their 12 1/2 ladder reaches the same height as a traditional 16 foot ladder, which I guess means it is set against the wall at a steeper angle than a traditional ladder. They do make a slightly taller one. Can you think of a good cave to take this ladder to ? Grutas de Carrizal has an old wooden ladder on a drop that is less than 3 meters. Langtry Lead Cave has some short drops, but the fun part of that cave is free-climbing the drops. I think I have heard cavers use the term nuisance drops. I
[Texascavers] fund-raising info about conservation projects
Request forwarded by Mixon. I have no idea what the CFC is. Note the disguised e-mail address at the end for replies. +++ The NSS needs your help! Once again we must file the annual CFC application in order to be considered to be a participant in the 2010/2011 CFC Fund Raising Drive. (We netted almost 6K in the 06/07 campaign!) If you were part a group that performed any type of conservation, restoration, or cleanup work; would you take a minute and send me a brief e-mail including the following: What State did the clean up take place? In what County or near what city? What Date(s)? Name of the Cave? Approximate Number of Participants? Very Brief Description of what took place (Removed trash, graffiti, restoration, etc.) Thanks in advance! Scott Fee, NSS Fund Raising Guy scottfee at bellsouth dot net Chastity: The most unnatural perversion. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Re: fund-raising info about conservation projects
I have no idea what the CFC is. The Combined Federal Campaign is the gov't equivalent of the United Way, for all federal employees -- not a small consituency, and as Scott says, potentially worth significant bucks. Most managers exert signficant pressure on their employees to make a monthly commitment, because good statistics make them look good. Alex - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Re: fund-raising info about conservation projects
I'll admit, there is considerable pressure to donate to the United Way where I work. There is an assumed $2 donation monthly. Your name is on a lit. If you don't give, the admin assistant will nag you relentlessly. I don't mind giving, but the tactics used . lot left to be desired. I donated an hour a month. In return, I get an extra day off.. That nets a half day per year donation... is not bad to keep the monkey off your back. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Alex Sproul imoca...@comcast.net wrote: I have no idea what the CFC is. The Combined Federal Campaign is the gov't equivalent of the United Way, for all federal employees -- not a small consituency, and as Scott says, potentially worth significant bucks. Most managers exert signficant pressure on their employees to make a monthly commitment, because good statistics make *them *look good. Alex - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] TCMA donations
Cavers, The Texas Cave Management Association has paid off Punkin/Deep but we still have ongoing maintenance and capital improvement expenses there and at our other properties. I know many of you like to join at the beginning of the year so please go to http://www.tcmacaves.org/financial/membership.html download a form and send it in. I know, you would rather pay on-line but PayPal is broken right now. And many of you want to make year-end tax deductible donations to your favorite charity. Again, go to http://www.tcmacaves.org/PDF/mail_form.pdf and download the membership form and indicate a donation on the OTHER line. Send it to the Austin PO box and I send you a receipt for 2009. We are looking all over for a new recreational cave to purchase and all donations to the acquisition fund will be kept separate and used only for that purpose. Of course, you can always donate to the general fund or to your favorite preserve. Visit the web site and see what's happening. Ron Ralph TCMA Database Manager
[NMCAVER] Fw: NSS needs your help - Did you participate in any clean up/restoration work?
- Forwarded Message From: Scott Fee scott...@bellsouth.net To: b...@caves.org Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 5:14:11 PM Subject: NSS needs your help - Did you participate in any clean up/restoration work? Please send to your local grotto, regions, and other list you belong to. Thanks! Remove this line and above The NSS needs your help! Once again we must file the annual CFC application in order to be considered to be a participant in the 2010/2011 CFC Fund Raising Drive. (We netted almost 6K in the 06/07 campaign!) If you were part a group that performed any type of conservation, restoration, or cleanup work; would you take a minute and send me a brief e-mail including the following: What State did the clean up take place? In what County or near what city? What Date(s)? Name of the Cave? Approximate Number of Participants? Very Brief Description of what took place (Removed trash, graffiti, restoration, etc.) Thanks in advance! Scott Fee, NSS Fund Raising Guy scottfee at bellsouth dot net PS - Please email this announcement to all caver mailing lists! ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
Agreed Don, modern smart phones are not just phones anymore, they are amongst the smallest netbooks made. My Iphone is much faster than my first computer and has Gigs of storage, my first used tape drives. In a pinch, I can vpn into my office with my iphone, remote a windows or unix workstation, ssh into a terminal on a router, switch, firewall or a unix server. I carry hundreds of books around with me for entertainment, have a few movies and quite a few songs. I love the ability that my library goes with me, if I'm sitting in a waiting room at a garage, doctors office, or just have 10 mins to kill while waiting on something/someone, I have my books with me. Too many times in the past I was caught somewhere and didn't have my current book with me. I rarely talk on my phone, its used more as a computer :) Charles On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: Editor of the Caver. You probably are between the keyboard and chair more than most of us. Luddite, ain't that rich! I'm not so much tethered to my iPhone (I turn off the phone regularly) as having a toolkit in my pocket. Calculator, weather, map, translator, radio, remote control, dictionary, camera, sky chart, movie listing, chemical light stick, clock, currency exchange, tip calculator, bird identification book, text, email, Google, and a dozen other ways to pass the time while waiting for my tractor... In one small package. Don's iPhone. On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:21 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: I like your style, Louise! I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off. I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the iPhones. (Addicted?) My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own bills, I don't care. Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/texting on their phones on LBJ! Unplugged and loving it! Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] AMCS web site
Charles -- A caver (sort of) in the Houston Grotto hosts the AMCS web site on his server. I've e-mailed Denver Hopkins about the problem and he's looking into it, but haven't heard back for several days, so I don't think he's looking very hard. Could be on vacation. Another responder says he's pretty sure that the server has just stopped offering www service. -- Bill Chastity: The most unnatural perversion. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
Re: [Texascavers] AMCS web site
No, it really seems like a DNS issue, amcs-pubs.org responds to a dns query, www.amcs-pubs.org does not. I'm about to announce an offer of free hosting to any Texas Cave related organization that needs it. It will be limited to hosting only, I won't manage or build webpages for groups :) I'm not the artistic type to make a good looking webpage. If you need some hosting, feel free to let me know, or if I can help further with your current problem. Charles On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Charles -- A caver (sort of) in the Houston Grotto hosts the AMCS web site on his server. I've e-mailed Denver Hopkins about the problem and he's looking into it, but haven't heard back for several days, so I don't think he's looking very hard. Could be on vacation. Another responder says he's pretty sure that the server has just stopped offering www service. -- Bill Chastity: The most unnatural perversion. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org