texascavers Digest 23 Dec 2009 17:55:16 -0000 Issue 932

2009-12-23 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 23 Dec 2009 17:55:16 - Issue 932

Topics (messages 13145 through 13158):

Mapping the underground
13145 by: William H. Russell

portable ladders
13146 by: David
13149 by: Fritz Holt
13150 by: Allan Cobb

Re: san antonio light article
13147 by: Butch Fralia
13148 by: George Veni
13151 by: Louise Power
13153 by: caverarch.aol.com
13154 by: Ron Ralph

AMCS web site
13152 by: Mixon Bill

Historical Newspapers
13155 by: Joe  Evelynn Mitchell

Happy Birthday George-Paul!
13156 by: Lyndon Tiu

NSS business from Scott Fee
13157 by: David Caudle

fund-raising info about conservation projects
13158 by: Mixon Bill

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Carol Russell passed this on to me from the Maps, Air Photo  GIS Form:

Call for papers - 2010 RGS-IBG Annual International Conference,
1-3rd September 2010, London, UK

Mapping Underground
Representing Subterranean Spaces, Practices and Cultures

Session organisers:
Martin Dodge and Chris Perkins
Geography, School of Environment  Development, University of Manchester

Context:
What lies beneath the ground is hidden and usually unrepresented but is
vital for many spaces and practices occurring above. In these concealed
and largely impenetrable subterranean spaces lurk unknown dangers and the
possibilities for adventurous exploration; moreover they serve as
potentially profitable resources, as engineering challenges to overcome,
as risks to be mapped and managed, as a spring of spiritual well-being or
the site of death and burial, as the source of artefacts of the human past
to be recovered and conserved, and as a scientific record of geologic
histories. The diversity of subterranean spaces, practices and cultures
have attracted scholarly attention including concern for symbolic and
multi-layered mythologies of representation (Rosalind Williams, David
Pike), the strangely sublime nature of underground infrastructures like
drains and ducts (Paul Dobraszczyk, Geoff Manaugh), the psychic anxieties
of the unmappable underground (Steve Pile), the political economy and
social ecology of subterranean facilities and flow (Matthew Gandy, Maria
Kaika). Beyond the academy there is also burgeoning 'amateur' interest in
charting the subterranean extent of cities (with substantial books
documenting the arcane underground features of, for example, Liverpool,
London, Manchester and Manhattan), along with obsessive collecting
behaviour of enthusiasts mapping out all the tunnels and 'lost' stations,
and recording war-time bunkers, emergency shelters and other forgotten
subterranean heritage.
	On most topographic maps the representation of space stops at 
the ground

level but there are many specialised geographic visualizations of the
underground. Examples include colourful and cryptically labelled
geological maps, complex engineering plans of tunnels and sewers,
volumetric models, and profiles of strata employed in oil exploration and
mineral extraction, geo-physical subsurface displays produced with
reflected mapping of radar and sound waves penetrating the solid ground
surface. We seek theoretically informed papers that consider how and why
the underground has been mapped (and not mapped), relating characteristics
of subterranean spaces to different forms of representational practice and
visual culture.

Proposed papers with a title and short abstract (250 words maximum) should
be submitted to Martin Dodge (m.do...@manchester.ac.uk) by 31 January
2010. Further details on conference are at www.rgs.org/AC2010

This announcement was somewhat abbreviated for Texascavers.  These 
people have a strange idea of the underground.  Cavers need to show 
them them how to map the real underground.

Bill Russell



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I think someone posted this a few years ago.   But the company in the
link below now
has a portable ladder rated for 300 pounds.

   http://www.xtendandclimb.com/index.htm

They claim their 12 1/2 ladder reaches the same height as a traditional
16 foot ladder, which I guess means it is set against the wall at a steeper
angle than a traditional ladder.

They do make a slightly taller one.

Can you think of a good cave to take this ladder to ? Grutas de Carrizal
has an old wooden ladder on a drop that is less than 3 meters.

Langtry Lead Cave has some short drops, but the fun part of that cave
is free-climbing
the drops.

I think I have heard cavers use the term nuisance drops.   I 

[Texascavers] fund-raising info about conservation projects

2009-12-23 Thread Mixon Bill
Request forwarded by Mixon. I have no idea what the CFC is. Note the  
disguised e-mail address at the end for replies.

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The NSS needs your help!

Once again we must file the annual CFC application in order to be  
considered to be a participant in the 2010/2011 CFC Fund Raising  
Drive. (We netted almost 6K in the 06/07 campaign!)
If you were part a group that performed any type of conservation,  
restoration, or cleanup work; would you take a minute and send me a  
brief e-mail including the following:

What State did the clean up take place?
In what County or near what city?
What Date(s)?
Name of the Cave?
Approximate Number of Participants?
Very Brief Description of what took place
(Removed trash, graffiti, restoration, etc.)
Thanks in advance!
Scott Fee, NSS Fund Raising Guy
scottfee at bellsouth dot net


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[Texascavers] Re: fund-raising info about conservation projects

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Sproul



 I have no idea what the CFC is.


The Combined Federal Campaign is the gov't equivalent of the United Way, for all federal 
employees -- not a small consituency, and as Scott says, potentially worth significant bucks. 
Most managers exert signficant pressure on their employees to make a monthly 
commitment, because good statistics make them look good.


Alex




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Re: [Texascavers] Re: fund-raising info about conservation projects

2009-12-23 Thread Glen Goldsmith
I'll admit, there is considerable pressure to donate to the United Way where
I work.
There is an assumed $2 donation monthly.  Your name is on a lit. If you
don't give, the admin assistant will nag you relentlessly.
I don't mind giving, but the tactics used . lot left to be desired.

I donated an hour a month.  In return, I get an extra day off..
That nets a half day per year donation... is not bad to keep the monkey
off your back.


On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Alex Sproul imoca...@comcast.net wrote:

   I have no idea what the CFC is.

  The Combined Federal Campaign is the gov't equivalent of the United Way,
 for all federal employees -- not a small consituency, and as Scott says,
 potentially worth significant bucks. Most managers exert signficant pressure
 on their employees to make a monthly commitment, because good statistics
 make *them *look good.

  Alex

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[Texascavers] TCMA donations

2009-12-23 Thread Ron Ralph
Cavers,

 

The Texas Cave Management Association has paid off Punkin/Deep but we still
have ongoing maintenance and capital improvement expenses there and at our
other properties. I know many of you like to join at the beginning of the
year so please go to http://www.tcmacaves.org/financial/membership.html
download a form and send it in. I know, you would rather pay on-line but
PayPal is broken right now.

 

And many of you want to make year-end tax deductible donations to your
favorite charity. Again, go to http://www.tcmacaves.org/PDF/mail_form.pdf
and download the membership form and indicate a donation on the OTHER line.
Send it to the Austin PO box and I send you a receipt for 2009. We are
looking all over for a new recreational cave to purchase and all donations
to the acquisition fund will be kept separate and used only for that
purpose. Of course, you can always donate to the general fund or to your
favorite preserve. Visit the web site and see what's happening.

 

Ron Ralph

TCMA Database Manager



[NMCAVER] Fw: NSS needs your help - Did you participate in any clean up/restoration work?

2009-12-23 Thread jen.




- Forwarded Message 
From: Scott Fee scott...@bellsouth.net
To: b...@caves.org
Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 5:14:11 PM
Subject: NSS needs your help - Did you participate in any clean up/restoration 
work?

 
 
Please send to your local
grotto, regions, and other list you belong to. Thanks!
 

Remove this line and above

 
The
NSS needs your help!
 
Once
again we must file the annual CFC application in order to be considered to be a
participant in the 2010/2011 CFC Fund Raising Drive. (We netted almost 6K in
the 06/07 campaign!)
 
If
you were part a group that performed any type of conservation, restoration, or
cleanup work; would you take a minute and send me a brief e-mail including the
following:
 
What
State did the clean up take place?
 
In
what County or near what city?
 
What
Date(s)?
 
Name
of the Cave?
 
Approximate
Number of Participants?
 
Very
Brief Description of what took place
 
(Removed
trash, graffiti, restoration, etc.)
 
Thanks
in advance!
 
Scott
Fee, NSS Fund Raising Guy
 
scottfee
at bellsouth dot net
 
PS
- Please email this announcement to all caver mailing lists!


  
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Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?

2009-12-23 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Agreed Don, modern smart phones are not just phones anymore, they are
amongst the smallest netbooks made.  My Iphone is much faster than my
first computer and has Gigs of storage, my first used tape drives.

In a pinch, I can vpn into my office with my iphone, remote a windows
or unix workstation, ssh into a terminal on a router, switch, firewall
or a unix server.  I carry hundreds of books around with me for
entertainment, have a few movies and quite a few songs.  I love the
ability that my library goes with me, if I'm sitting in a waiting room
at a garage, doctors office, or just have 10 mins to kill while
waiting on something/someone, I have my books with me.

Too many times in the past I was caught somewhere and didn't have my
current book with me.

I rarely talk on my phone, its used more as a computer :)

Charles

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:
 Editor of the Caver. You probably are between the keyboard and chair more
 than most of us. Luddite, ain't that rich!
 I'm not so much tethered to my iPhone (I turn off the phone regularly) as
 having a toolkit in my pocket. Calculator, weather, map, translator, radio,
 remote control, dictionary, camera, sky chart, movie listing, chemical light
 stick, clock, currency exchange, tip calculator, bird identification book,
 text, email, Google, and a dozen other ways to pass the time while waiting
 for my tractor...
 In one small package.


 Don's iPhone.
 On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:21 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

 I like your style, Louise!


 I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off.

 I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's
 lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the
 iPhones. (Addicted?)

 My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own
 bills, I don't care.


 Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/texting on
 their phones on LBJ!


 Unplugged and loving it!


 Mark



 
 From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM
 To: Texas Cavers
 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?

 Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on
 the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and
 got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can
 find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it
 about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number
 (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call.

 Louise


Re: [Texascavers] AMCS web site

2009-12-23 Thread Mixon Bill
Charles -- A caver (sort of) in the Houston Grotto hosts the AMCS web  
site on his server. I've e-mailed Denver Hopkins about the problem and  
he's looking into it, but haven't heard back for several days, so I  
don't think he's looking very hard. Could be on vacation.
Another responder says he's pretty sure that the server has just  
stopped offering www service. -- Bill


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Re: [Texascavers] AMCS web site

2009-12-23 Thread Charles Goldsmith
No, it really seems like a DNS issue, amcs-pubs.org responds to a dns
query, www.amcs-pubs.org does not.

I'm about to announce an offer of free hosting to any Texas Cave
related organization that needs it.  It will be limited to hosting
only, I won't manage or build webpages for groups :)  I'm not the
artistic type to make a good looking webpage.

If you need some hosting, feel free to let me know, or if I can help
further with your current problem.

Charles

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 Charles -- A caver (sort of) in the Houston Grotto hosts the AMCS web site
 on his server. I've e-mailed Denver Hopkins about the problem and he's
 looking into it, but haven't heard back for several days, so I don't think
 he's looking very hard. Could be on vacation.
 Another responder says he's pretty sure that the server has just stopped
 offering www service. -- Bill
 
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