[Texascavers] Projects Galore This Weekend!

[Mark . Alman]

 

So get out there, y'all.

 

There's a lot going on and the weather looks perfect!

 

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To summarize:

 

 

 

100th project weekend for the GCSNA

 

 

The 100th trip of the Government Canyon Karst Project will take place on
the 5th and 6th of March. We will meet as usual at 9:00 on both days in
the parking area of the Volunteer/Research Station to organize teams and
objectives. On the evening of the 5th (Saturday) we will have a hog
roast, awards ceremony, and presentation in celebration of the 100th
project trip. The event will take place at the Volunteer/Research
Station. All are invited to come. The hog will be provided courtesy of
the Government Canyon Hog Hunters (feral hog eradication). A vegetarian
entre will also be provided. Please bring a side dish and your own
drinks. The meal will begin at 5:30. The TSA is a sponsor of this event.

 

Many participants will be camping at the volunteer campground nearby so
bring your tent and join in the fun. Then go caving, digging, or
ridgewalking on Sunday. 

 

Directions to the Government Canyon Karst Project:

Find the intersection of U.S. 16 and Loop 1604 in northwest Bexar County
(clearly shown on any state highway map). Drive 2 miles north on U.S. 16
to the third traffic light and turn left onto FM 1560 (there is a Shell
station on the corner). Follow 1560 for 3 miles till you see the sign
for GCSNA. Follow the arrow to the right and drive 2 more miles to the
sharp left turn in the road. The gate to GCSNA is straight ahead. Enter
at the gate and then take the first right. There is an unlocked gate
that will need to be opened and then closed behind you. Continue to the
Volunteer/Research Station, where we will meet. 

 

 

 

 

Cave Day event at the Village of Western Oaks karst preserve is
happening on Saturday 5 March.  

We were hoping extra cavers would come help out at the Cave Festival in
South Austin that day.  Cave Fest is from 9-3 so you can do both!

Folks, we're in desperate need of 12 cavers to help us w/this year's
cave fest.  It's a one of a kind event, happens no where else or as well
attended.  Please help us make this year another successful cave fest.

I'm so proud that cavers are so involved in this city wide event, oppps,
it's now multi county wide invitations. So, drop me an email or call me
and volunteer.

 

 

This year's info:

 Date:  Saturday, March 5, 2011

 Time:  9:00am to 3:00pm

 Location:  Village of Western Oaks Karst Preserve

 More info: 

 


>http://www.bseacd.org/events/austin-cave-festival/
 

 

 

Julie Jenkins

Barton Springs Edwards Aquifer Conservation District Environmental
Educator

1124 Regal Row

Austin, Tx 78748

off: 512.282.8441

cell: 512.289.1336

email: jjenk...@bseacd.org  

website: www.bseacd.org  

-- 

 

William Hart Russell

4806 Red River Street

Austin, TX  78751

H: 512-453-4774 (messages)

CELL:  512-940-8336

Andy Zenker [rockhugg...@gmail.com]

 

 

 

The  Lost Oasis Cave Preserve workday is being rescheduled for SUNDAY 6
March

We encourage all cavers to support the VWO Cave Day and attend if you
can.  The details for the Lost Oasis work day are repeated below so you
will have everything in one single email.  Also note that the time is
moved up to 9 a.m, to give us an extra hour.  Sorry for the confusion,
and we hope to see you there.

We plan to prune limbs, cut weeds, bag trash, and just generally make
the property more attractive.  We need people, saws, loppers, weed
eaters, gloves, and maybe even a chain saw.  Bring your own drinks and
snacks for the work, but TCMA provide bottled water.  The date is
Saturday 6 March.  The time, 9:00 am till noon.  Meet across from Bailey
Middle School, 4020 Lost Oasis Hollow, in West Shady Hollow subdivision,
Austin, Texas.  All visitors to the Preserve will be asked to sign a
liability waiver.

If anyone wishes to enter the cave, Preserve Manager Ron Ralph has
agreed to that, assuming he can track a key to the lock on the cave
gate.  Ron can be reached at 512-797-3817 (cell) in case any one gets
lost, or if you would like to coordinate more details with him. 

 

Jim Kennedy mailto:jkenn...@batcon.org> > TCMA
Preserves Chair

 

texascavers Digest 2 Mar 2011 20:26:28 -0000 Issue 1259

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texascavers Digest 2 Mar 2011 20:26:28 - Issue 1259

Topics (messages 17296 through 17305):

Re: cave books
17296 by: Jim Kennedy
17297 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
17298 by: Fritz Holt

Rock Snot on my ol' felt shoes OT
17299 by: Aimee Beveridge

Re: Grottos buying caving books for libraries
17300 by: Carl Kunath

Re: TCC Winter Conference Report
17301 by: Mark Alman

Re: NSS membership schemes
17302 by: R D Milhollin

Projects Galore This Weekend!
17303 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

Re: OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
17304 by: caverarch
17305 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

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Fritz, TSA doesn't have a library. TSS does, and your books are there,  
along with many others available for borrowing by interested Texas  
cavers.


Jim Kennedy
TSS Office Manager


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Whew!

You had me worried there.

Library? What library?!



Mark


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From: Jim Kennedy [mailto:jkenn...@batcon.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:48 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Cc: speleoste...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com;
Texascavers@texascavers.com; Mandy Holt; Jenny Holt
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: cave books

Fritz, TSA doesn't have a library. TSS does, and your books are there,  
along with many others available for borrowing by interested Texas  
cavers.

Jim Kennedy
TSS Office Manager
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I knew Jerry would get them to the right place, wherever it was.

Fritz

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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:51 PM
To: Jim Kennedy; Fritz Holt
Cc: speleoste...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com; 
Mandy Holt; Jenny Holt
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: cave books

Whew!

You had me worried there.

Library? What library?!



Mark


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From: Jim Kennedy [mailto:jkenn...@batcon.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:48 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Cc: speleoste...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com;
Texascavers@texascavers.com; Mandy Holt; Jenny Holt
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: cave books

Fritz, TSA doesn't have a library. TSS does, and your books are there,  
along with many others available for borrowing by interested Texas  
cavers.

Jim Kennedy
TSS Office Manager
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Interesting OT topic.  

February 21, Associated Press – (Maryland; Vermont; Alaska) Footwear  blamed 
for 
‘rock snot’ invasion of Md. streams. Felt-soled fishing  boots, of all things, 
are apparently the latest threat to local fish  populations, prompting Maryland 
to ban the shoes in hopes of stopping an  invasive form of algae — 
appropriately 
dubbed “rock snot” for its  resemblance to yellow-brown mucous — from hurting 
pristine trout  streams, the Associated Press reports. Maryland’s Department of 
Natural  Resources plans to prohibit wading with felt soles starting March 21  
after discovering that “rock snot,” or didymo — a type of algae that  coats 
riverbeds in thick mats — thrives in the shoes’ damp fibers and  hitches a ride 
from one body of water to another. Rock snot has found  its way across the 
United States, and as of March 21, Maryland will  become the
- 12 -
first state to enforce a felt boot ban. It was  found in 2008 in Gunpowder 
Falls 
north of Baltimore. A western Maryland  stream, the Savage River, also has 
tested positive for the organism, but  has not had a rock snot bloom. Similar 
bans will take effect in Vermont  April 1, and in Alaska in 2012. Source: 
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-buzz/2011/02/footwear_blamed_for_rock_snot.html?hpid=newswell



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To one and all:

I have always been a supporter of the idea that grottos should have a library 
and that they should be proactive in making sure that worthwhile items are 
present in their local libraries.

>From the start, I have offered to make 50 Years of Texas Caving available at a 
>discounted price anytime the final destination was a grotto library, school 
>library, or any other library accessible to the general public.  I also 
>extended that offer to copies destined for a favorite cave owner.

That offer 

[Texascavers] Invitation to Karst Workshop and HydroDays

[Geary Schindel]

FYI,


Subject: Invitation to Karst Workshop and HydroDays

Dear Friends of Holey Rocks,

I want to personally invite you to join us in Fayetteville and the southern 
Ozarks for 4 days of technical papers, field trips, a float trip, and field 
demonstrations in late April.  The webpage describes much of the planned 
activity, but we expect a diverse group that should lead to education, 
enjoyment, and expansion of our karst awareness.  Call me if you have any 
questions.  Costs have been kept to a minimum, you can camp if you want, no 
registration fee, and a banquet that will serve you up roast razorback, roast 
goat, and if we can get our hands on one, roast python.  Check out the webpage, 
and register if you can make it.  We'd love to have you join us.


 The website can be found here:   
http://comp.uark.edu/~tgd002/Home.html




Van

Van Brahana, Professor
University of Arkansas--Department of Geosciences
113 Ozark Hall
Fayetteville, AR  72701
479.575.2570 (voice)  479.575.3469 (fax)
brah...@uark.edu (email)  http://comp.uark.edu/~brahana (web)



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texascavers Digest 2 Mar 2011 23:31:51 -0000 Issue 1261

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Topics (messages 17310 through 17317):

Re: OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
17310 by: Sheryl Rieck
17311 by: Diana Tomchick
17313 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
17314 by: wesley s
17315 by: Stefan Creaser
17316 by: James McLane
17317 by: Bill Bentley

Invitation to Karst Workshop and HydroDays
17312 by: Geary Schindel

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If all you digital lovers would stay home and off the roads, I could get to
the library quicker! ;-)

Sheryl

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote:

>  In that case you can drive to the storage place. However, the rest of us
> who want to avoid the traffic and stupid drivers will stay at our computers
> ;-)
>
>
>
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>From this week's Nature magazine, the Scripps Institution of Oceanography 
>Library is slated to close due to budget woes for the state of California:

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110302/full/471018a.html

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)



On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, caverarch wrote:

> Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
> remain forever supported and viable.
>
> Roger Moore
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 
> 
> Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
> Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
> I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
>
>
> They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
> read just about all of them.
>
> Working on Clive Cussler now.
>
> My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
> books there, when they were younger.
>
> Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
> returned in time.
>
> I could have saved a small fortune.
>
>
> Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
> checkout.
>
>
> For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
> book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mixon Bill [
> mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> ]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
> To: Cavers Texas
> Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes
>
> Public library? What's that?
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The future of medicine, today.
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As is the Borders book store here in Mesquite and six more in the DFW
area. 8^(>


Mark




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From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:48 PM
To: caverarch
Cc: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; ;

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

>From this week's Nature magazine, the Scripps Institution of
Oceanography Library is slated to close due to budget woes for the state
of California:

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110302/full/471018a.html

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)



On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, caverarch wrote:

> Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they
should remain forever supported and viable.
>
> Roger Moore
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas

> Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
> Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
> I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
>
>
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"My 2pence"
 
According to this site http://coinmill.com/GBX_USD.html#GBX=2 at the current 
exchange rate Stefan just contributed $0.03 American dollars to the 
conversation. Remember that the next time an englishman proffers their opinion 
it's worth more than yours.
 
Ah hahahaha!
 
Wes~

 


From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
To: sheryl.ri...@g

Sonora dig this weekend

[J. LaRue Thomas]

On the list I have:

Bill Bently (sinuses permitting)
Walter Feaster
Kerry Lowery
Charles Goldsmith (probably to maybe) + ?
Me

Perhaps I heard from someone else while I was gone and cannot remember, so 
if you said "yes" to this weekend and are not on the above list please 
contact me.


Weather pretty good--partly cloudy and 80s Friday, 40s Friday night, cooler 
Saturday (60s) and about freezing (no wind or rain, anyway).


Jacqui

Re: [PBSS] Sonora dig this weekend

[Kerry Lowery]

These are hard working folks, but we sure could use some more of them.
Probably need 8 - 10 people to make any worthwhile progress.  C'mon down
cavers, lets do some digging.

Kerry

-Original Message-
From: pbss-boun...@caver.net [mailto:pbss-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of J.
LaRue Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:33 AM
To: p...@caver.net
Cc: Josh Rubinstein; Rick Corbell
Subject: [PBSS] Sonora dig this weekend

On the list I have:

Bill Bently (sinuses permitting)
Walter Feaster
Kerry Lowery
Charles Goldsmith (probably to maybe) + ?
Me

Perhaps I heard from someone else while I was gone and cannot remember, so 
if you said "yes" to this weekend and are not on the above list please 
contact me.

Weather pretty good--partly cloudy and 80s Friday, 40s Friday night, cooler 
Saturday (60s) and about freezing (no wind or rain, anyway).

Jacqui




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[SWR] Fw: More on Larry

[LEE STEVENS]

Another good friend gone too soon.

Lee Stevens
- Original Message - 
From: Cheryl Jones 
To: Lee Stevens 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:34 PM
Subject: More on Larry


  Larry Flemming, NSS # 17092, suffered a heart attack and passed away on 
February 23, 2011. Larry lived in Anchorage, Alaska and was a member of the 
Gypsy Underground Grotto. Details of services are unknown to me at the moment. 
I received the following tribute from Emily Davis:

  "I first met Larry Flemming in the mid 1970s. We got along well immediately. 
He had a quirky sense of humor and teased me the way my older brother and 
father did. Our political views were very different but this only was the 
subject of interesting discussions and exploration of common ground from 
differing perspectives and never caused friction in our friendship. We saw each 
other fairly often and caved in NY and WV. He helped with the 1979 NSS 
Pittsfield 
  Mass. convention.

  I lost track of him for a few years while he stepped back from caving but he 
surfaced again in the mid 80s. We hit it off as though he had never taken a 
hiatus from caving.

  In 1994 Larry joined Carl Snyder and me on a trip to Australia. We visited a 
bat research and rescue center in Queensland, went caving in Chillagoe and 
rented a "bareboat" charter. This would become very important later. Larry 
really knew very little about sailing but took a lesson and was Carl's second 
on the three days of sailing a 24' boat.

  Over the next 16 years I spent time with Larry including a trip to Costa Rica 
where we mapped the deepest cave in the country with Ed and Eddy Keyes. He 
managed to get away to Switzerland for the International Congress in 1997. 
Larry worked with us in Hawaii mapping caves and as a field assistant for Diana 
Northup in both 2008 and 2010. He donated generously in both time and money to 
the Cave Conservancy of Hawai'i.

  Larry was an accomplished diver with instructor certification. He dived in 
Australia and on many other diving trips with his only major problem being a 
broken foot when he had a misstep getting off of a boat. (He spent the rest of 
the trip in a hammock being waited on by local women, so I was told.)

  He traveled with Dwight and Mary Deal on a karst tour in China.He spent 2 
years in Gabon building schools with the Peace Core and traveled around Africa 
after his time was over with the Core. Larry was a project coordinator at 
McMurdo Station in Antarctica and later 
  on projects in Alaska.

  Larry was not shy of adventure and travel but he wanted more. A few years ago 
when Mike Warner and I went to Alaska to hike and tour with him he told us he 
was going to sell everything and buy a sail boat so he could sail around the 
world. Last year he traveled to Camden 
  Maine and found his 52' boat. He purchased the boat and started the process.

  Larry planned to cave with us in Hawaii in mid February this year but called 
and said he doubted he could come. We got an email only a few days before his 
death that he just could not make it because he had far too much to get done in 
the process of selling his home and 
  posessions so he could start his new life.

  I will miss Larry for the rest of my life, and I am sure others will carry 
his memory through theirs. He was a good friend to many; honest, true, giving 
and opinionated."

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[Texascavers] Bats

[wa5pok]

Saw "BATS" on Texas license plates today in my neighborhood (Spring). Anyone 
know who?

~F~

Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[caverarch]

Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable.


Roger Moore





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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries



I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.


They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
read just about all of them.

Working on Clive Cussler now.

My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
books there, when they were younger.

Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
returned in time.

I could have saved a small fortune.


Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
checkout.


For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!


Mark




-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes

Public library? What's that? 


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RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Mark . Alman]

It's funny we're discussing this right now, Roger.

 

I just talked to my daughter and she is applying for a Library Clerk
position as I write this.

 

 

(Cue the Twilight Zone theme).

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; bmixon...@austin.rr.com;
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

 

Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they
should remain forever supported and viable. 

 

Roger Moore

 

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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

 
I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
 
 
They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
read just about all of them.
 
Working on Clive Cussler now.
 
My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
books there, when they were younger.
 
Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
returned in time.
 
I could have saved a small fortune.
 
 
Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
checkout.
 
 
For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!
 
 
Mark
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com
 ] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes
 
Public library? What's that? 
 
 
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RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Stefan Creaser]

True, true But in these times wouldn't a digital library be the better 
option, with the paper books kept in climate-controlled storage for when one 
really needs to touch them?

I would suggest that if the digital library was searchable then it would 
generate greater traffic...

Cheers,
Stefan

From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable.

Roger Moore

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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries



I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.





They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've

read just about all of them.



Working on Clive Cussler now.



My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting

books there, when they were younger.



Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books

returned in time.



I could have saved a small fortune.





Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for

checkout.





For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a

book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!





Mark









-Original Message-

From: Mixon Bill 
[mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]

Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM

To: Cavers Texas

Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes



Public library? What's that?





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Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Sheryl Rieck]

I hate digital books. If I am going to read a book, I want to hold it in my
hand in some type of paper generated form. So, I love libraries and Half
Price Books. As a matter of fact, that reminds me that I need to go get a
library card from the library in the area I now live in.

JMHO,
SHeryl


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote:

>  True, true…. But in these times wouldn’t a digital library be the better
> option, with the paper books kept in climate-controlled storage for when *
> one* really needs to touch them?
>
>
>
> I would suggest that if the digital library was searchable then it would
> generate greater traffic…
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
> *From:* caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
> *To:* mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com;
> texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
>
> Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should
> remain forever supported and viable.
>
>
>
> Roger Moore
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas <
> texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
> Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
>
> I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
>
>
>
>
>
> They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
>
> read just about all of them.
>
>
>
> Working on Clive Cussler now.
>
>
>
> My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
>
> books there, when they were younger.
>
>
>
> Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
>
> returned in time.
>
>
>
> I could have saved a small fortune.
>
>
>
>
>
> Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
>
> checkout.
>
>
>
>
>
> For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
>
> book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com ]
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
>
> To: Cavers Texas
>
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RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Stefan Creaser]

In that case you can drive to the storage place. However, the rest of us who 
want to avoid the traffic and stupid drivers will stay at our computers ;-)

I love paper books, and have quite a collection, but I am having a hard time 
deciding whether to get a digital book on my iPad as I think I prefer paper 
too. However, I can't have every book out there and would like to reference 
ones I don't have so if it's digital then I can.

My 2pence.

Stefan

From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:36 PM
To: Stefan Creaser
Cc: caverarch; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

I hate digital books. If I am going to read a book, I want to hold it in my 
hand in some type of paper generated form. So, I love libraries and Half Price 
Books. As a matter of fact, that reminds me that I need to go get a library 
card from the library in the area I now live in.

JMHO,
SHeryl

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stefan Creaser 
mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com>> wrote:
True, true But in these times wouldn't a digital library be the better 
option, with the paper books kept in climate-controlled storage for when one 
really needs to touch them?

I would suggest that if the digital library was searchable then it would 
generate greater traffic...

Cheers,
Stefan

From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; 
bmixon...@austin.rr.com; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable.

Roger Moore

-Original Message-
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com>>; 
Cavers Texas mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>
Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries



I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.





They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've

read just about all of them.



Working on Clive Cussler now.



My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting

books there, when they were younger.



Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books

returned in time.



I could have saved a small fortune.





Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for

checkout.





For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a

book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!





Mark









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From: Mixon Bill 
[mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]

Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM

To: Cavers Texas

Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes



Public library? What's that?





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Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[caverarch]

Stefan, I like electronic books a lot, mostly because out of print and obscure 
titles are more and more becoming available for free through that source -and I 
am freed from building or buying more bookshelf space.  But I think a lot of 
people will be able to use digital sources much more effectively with the 
assistance of professional librarians working in public and academic libraries. 
 And the financial means to obtain the equipment for them will always be out of 
reach of some.


There are currently ways to seach subjects of e-books, at least, if not to 
perform internal searches.


Roger





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From: Stefan Creaser 
To: caverarch ; texascavers@texascavers.com 

Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2011 2:31 pm
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries



True, true…. But in these times wouldn’t a digital library be the better 
option, with the paper books kept in climate-controlled storage for whenone 
really needs to touch them?
 
I would suggest that if the digital library was searchable then it would 
generate greater traffic…
 
Cheers,
Stefan
 

From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

 
Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable.

 

Roger Moore
 

-Original Message-
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

 
I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
 
 
They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
read just about all of them.
 
Working on Clive Cussler now.
 
My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
books there, when they were younger.
 
Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
returned in time.
 
I could have saved a small fortune.
 
 
Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
checkout.
 
 
For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!
 
 
Mark
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes
 
Public library? What's that? 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Sheryl Rieck]

If all you digital lovers would stay home and off the roads, I could get to
the library quicker! ;-)

Sheryl

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote:

>  In that case you can drive to the storage place. However, the rest of us
> who want to avoid the traffic and stupid drivers will stay at our computers
> ;-)
>
>
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Diana Tomchick]

>From this week's Nature magazine, the Scripps Institution of Oceanography 
>Library is slated to close due to budget woes for the state of California:

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110302/full/471018a.html

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
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On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, caverarch wrote:

> Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
> remain forever supported and viable.
>
> Roger Moore
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 
> 
> Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
> Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
> I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
>
>
> They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
> read just about all of them.
>
> Working on Clive Cussler now.
>
> My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
> books there, when they were younger.
>
> Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
> returned in time.
>
> I could have saved a small fortune.
>
>
> Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
> checkout.
>
>
> For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
> book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mixon Bill [
> mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> ]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
> To: Cavers Texas
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RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Mark . Alman]

As is the Borders book store here in Mesquite and six more in the DFW
area. 8^(>


Mark




-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:48 PM
To: caverarch
Cc: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; ;

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

>From this week's Nature magazine, the Scripps Institution of
Oceanography Library is slated to close due to budget woes for the state
of California:

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110302/full/471018a.html

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)



On Mar 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, caverarch wrote:

> Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they
should remain forever supported and viable.
>
> Roger Moore
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas

> Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
> Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
> I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
>
>

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RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[wesley s]

"My 2pence"
 
According to this site http://coinmill.com/GBX_USD.html#GBX=2 at the current 
exchange rate Stefan just contributed $0.03 American dollars to the 
conversation. Remember that the next time an englishman proffers their opinion 
it's worth more than yours.
 
Ah hahahaha!
 
Wes~

 


From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
To: sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:40:27 -0800
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries






In that case you can drive to the storage place. However, the rest of us who 
want to avoid the traffic and stupid drivers will stay at our computers ;-)
 
I love paper books, and have quite a collection, but I am having a hard time 
deciding whether to get a digital book on my iPad as I think I prefer paper 
too. However, I can’t have every book out there and would like to reference 
ones I don’t have so if it’s digital then I can.
 
My 2pence.
 
Stefan
 

From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:36 PM
To: Stefan Creaser
Cc: caverarch; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
 
I hate digital books. If I am going to read a book, I want to hold it in my 
hand in some type of paper generated form. So, I love libraries and Half Price 
Books. As a matter of fact, that reminds me that I need to go get a library 
card from the library in the area I now live in.

JMHO,
SHeryl



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stefan Creaser  wrote:


True, true…. But in these times wouldn’t a digital library be the better 
option, with the paper books kept in climate-controlled storage for when one 
really needs to touch them?
 
I would suggest that if the digital library was searchable then it would 
generate greater traffic…
 
Cheers,
Stefan
 

From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
 
Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable. 

 

Roger Moore
 

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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
 I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.  They have a HUGE collection 
of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I'veread just about all of them. Working 
on Clive Cussler now. My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to 
love gettingbooks there, when they were younger. Now, if only their old man 
could have remembered to get the booksreturned in time. I could have saved a 
small fortune.  Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available 
forcheckout.  For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of 
reading abook on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!  
Mark-Original Message-From: Mixon Bill 
[mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AMTo: 
Cavers TexasSubject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes Public library? 
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[Stefan Creaser]

Touche ;-)

From: wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:14 PM
To: Stefan Creaser; sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

"My 2pence"

According to this site http://coinmill.com/GBX_USD.html#GBX=2 at the current 
exchange rate Stefan just contributed $0.03 American dollars to the 
conversation. Remember that the next time an englishman proffers their opinion 
it's worth more than yours.

Ah hahahaha!

Wes~



From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
To: sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:40:27 -0800
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
In that case you can drive to the storage place. However, the rest of us who 
want to avoid the traffic and stupid drivers will stay at our computers ;-)

I love paper books, and have quite a collection, but I am having a hard time 
deciding whether to get a digital book on my iPad as I think I prefer paper 
too. However, I can't have every book out there and would like to reference 
ones I don't have so if it's digital then I can.

My 2pence.

Stefan

From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:36 PM
To: Stefan Creaser
Cc: caverarch; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

I hate digital books. If I am going to read a book, I want to hold it in my 
hand in some type of paper generated form. So, I love libraries and Half Price 
Books. As a matter of fact, that reminds me that I need to go get a library 
card from the library in the area I now live in.

JMHO,
SHeryl
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stefan Creaser  wrote:
True, true But in these times wouldn't a digital library be the better 
option, with the paper books kept in climate-controlled storage for when one 
really needs to touch them?

I would suggest that if the digital library was searchable then it would 
generate greater traffic...

Cheers,
Stefan

From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable.

Roger Moore

-Original Message-
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries



I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.





They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've

read just about all of them.



Working on Clive Cussler now.



My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting

books there, when they were younger.



Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books

returned in time.



I could have saved a small fortune.





Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for

checkout.





For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a

book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!





Mark









-Original Message-

From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]

Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM

To: Cavers Texas

Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes



Public library? What's that?





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RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[James McLane]

A year or so ago Science magazine ran an article by a couple of professors 
arguing that in the near future there will be no need for human literacy.  
Computers responding to the human voice will have the ability to file and 
retrieve audio files as quickly, easily and efficiently as they handle text 
files today. Information will be stored as audio and video, not text.
 
When this brave new world arrives, libraries will be obsolete since nobody will 
bother to learn to read or write. 
 


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List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:22:13 -0500
From: cavera...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable. 


Roger Moore





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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries



I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.


They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
read just about all of them.

Working on Clive Cussler now.

My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
books there, when they were younger.

Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
returned in time.

I could have saved a small fortune.


Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
checkout.


For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!


Mark




-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes

Public library? What's that? 


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Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Bill Bentley]

Until such time that the video/audio computerized service manual on how to make 
repairs on the video/audio computers breaks... I have never once had to 
recharge or replace batteries in any of my books. As for me? I will pass on 
this brave new world... I kind of like the world I am/was in...

Bill


  - Original Message - 
  From: James McLane 
  To: Roger Moore ; mark.al...@l-3com.com ; bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; Texas 
Cavers 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 5:18 PM
  Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries


  A year or so ago Science magazine ran an article by a couple of professors 
arguing that in the near future there will be no need for human literacy.  
Computers responding to the human voice will have the ability to file and 
retrieve audio files as quickly, easily and efficiently as they handle text 
files today. Information will be stored as audio and video, not text.
   
  When this brave new world arrives, libraries will be obsolete since nobody 
will bother to learn to read or write. 
   

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  To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
  Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:22:13 -0500
  From: cavera...@aol.com
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

  Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable. 


  Roger Moore





  -Original Message-
  From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
  To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 

  Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
  Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries



I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.


They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
read just about all of them.

Working on Clive Cussler now.

My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
books there, when they were younger.

Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
returned in time.

I could have saved a small fortune.


Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
checkout.


For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!


Mark




-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes

Public library? What's that? 


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Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[germanyj]

 I agree!  Plus, I love the smell of books (and money for that matter), the 
cover art, the info on the inside of the dust jacket.

Now I miss vinyl records, too: the cool album art and the big posters that used 
to come folded inside with the record...

Just call me "Sheldon"...

 


 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bentley 
To: Texas Cavers 
Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2011 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries


Until such time that the video/audio computerized service manual on how to make 
repairs on the video/audio computers breaks... I have never once had to 
recharge or replace batteries in any of my books. As for me? I will pass on 
this brave new world... I kind of like the world I am/was in...
 
Bill
 
 
  
- Original Message - 
  
From:   James McLane 
  
To: Roger Moore ; mark.al...@l-3com.com ; bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; Texas 
Cavers 
  
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 5:18   PM
  
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] OT - The   Relevance of Public Libraries
  


A year or so ago Science magazine ran an article by a couple of   professors 
arguing that in the near future there will be no need for   human literacy.  
Computers responding to the human voice will have   the ability to file and 
retrieve audio files as quickly, easily   and efficiently as they handle text 
files today. Information will be   stored as audio and video, not text.
 
When this brave new world   arrives, libraries will be obsolete since nobody 
will bother to learn to read   or write. 
 
  
  To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date:   Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:22:13 -0500
From: cavera...@aol.com
Subject: Re:   [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

Right on,   Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever   supported and viable.   


  
Roger   Moore

  


  
-Original   Message-
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill   ; Cavers Texas   

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55   am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

  


I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.





They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've

read just about all of them.



Working on Clive Cussler now.



My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting

books there, when they were younger.



Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books

returned in time.



I could have saved a small fortune.





Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for

checkout.





For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a

book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!





Mark









-Original Message-

From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM

To: Cavers Texas

Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes



Public library? What's that? 





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Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

[Diana Tomchick]

Ha! Then how do they explain the fact that teenagers prefer to use their cell 
phones to text each other rather than talk to their friends?

There have been a number of studies done to show that there are significant 
anatomical changes to the brains of humans that learn to read and write as 
children, versus people who learn to read and write as adults, and people who 
are illiterate (for example, see Nature vol. 461, 983-986 (15 October 2009) "An 
anatomical signature for literacy," Manuel Carreiras, Mohamed L. Seghier, 
Silvia Baquero, Adelina Estévez, Alfonso Lozano, Joseph T. Devlin & Cathy J. 
Price). A recent study indicates that learning to read enhances the visual 
cortex and speech processing in the brain, even for people who became literate 
as adults (Science 3 December 2010: Vol. 330 no. 6009 pp. 1359-1364 "How 
Learning to Read Changes the Cortical Networks for Vision andLanguage." 
Stanislas Dehaene, Felipe Pegado, Lucia W. Braga, Paulo Ventura, Gilberto Nunes 
Filho, Antoinette Jobert, Ghislaine Dehaene-Lambertz, Régine Kolinsky, José 
Morais and Laurent Cohen).

I don't think that the written language and reading is going away anytime soon.

Diana

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Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
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On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:18 PM, James McLane wrote:

> A year or so ago Science magazine ran an article by a couple of professors 
> arguing that in the near future there will be no need for human literacy.  
> Computers responding to the human voice will have the ability to file and 
> retrieve audio files as quickly, easily and efficiently as they handle text 
> files today. Information will be stored as audio and video, not text.
>
> When this brave new world arrives, libraries will be obsolete since nobody 
> will bother to learn to read or write.
>
> To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; 
> texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:22:13 -0500
> From: cavera...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
> Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
> remain forever supported and viable.
>
> Roger Moore
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 
> 
> Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
> Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
> I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
>
>
> They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
> read just about all of them.
>
> Working on Clive Cussler now.
>
> My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
> books there, when they were younger.
>
> Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
> returned in time.
>
> I could have saved a small fortune.
>
>
> Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
> checkout.
>
>
> For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
> book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mixon Bill [
> mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> ]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM
> To: Cavers Texas
> Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes
>
> Public library? What's that?
>
>
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Re: OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
17306 by: Stefan Creaser
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True, true But in these times wouldn't a digital library be the better 
option, with the paper books kept in climate-controlled storage for when one 
really needs to touch them?

I would suggest that if the digital library was searchable then it would 
generate greater traffic...

Cheers,
Stefan

From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries

Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should 
remain forever supported and viable.

Roger Moore

-Original Message-
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas 

Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries



I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.





They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've

read just about all of them.



Working on Clive Cussler now.



My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting

books there, when they were younger.



Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books

returned in time.



I could have saved a small fortune.





Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for

checkout.





For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a

book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public library!





Mark









-Original Message-

From: Mixon Bill 
[mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]

Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:12 AM

To: Cavers Texas

Subject: [Texascavers] NSS membership schemes



Public library? What's that?





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I hate digital books. If I am going to read a book, I want to hold it in my
hand in some type of paper generated form. So, I love libraries and Half
Price Books. As a matter of fact, that reminds me that I need to go get a
library card from the library in the area I now live in.

JMHO,
SHeryl


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote:

>  True, true…. But in these times wouldn’t a digital library be the better
> option, with the paper books kept in climate-controlled storage for when *
> one* really needs to touch them?
>
>
>
> I would suggest that if the digital library was searchable then it would
> generate greater traffic…
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
> *From:* caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:22 PM
> *To:* mark.al...@l-3com.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com;
> texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
>
> Right on, Mark.  Libraries are a hallmark of civilization, and they should
> remain forever supported and viable.
>
>
>
> Roger Moore
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> To: Mixon Bill ; Cavers Texas <
> texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 11:55 am
> Subject: [Texascavers] OT - The Relevance of Public Libraries
>
>
>
> I love our public library here in Mesquite, Bill.
>
>
>
>
>
> They have a HUGE collection of all the books by Kinky Friedman and I've
>
> read just about all of them.
>
>
>
> Working on Clive Cussler now.
>
>
>
> My daughter still goes quite often and my kids used to love getting
>
> books there, when they were younger.
>
>
>
> Now, if only their old man could have remembered to get the books
>
> returned in time.
>
>
>
> I could have saved a small fortune.
>
>
>
>
>
> Not to mention all of the CD's and DVD's they have available for
>
> checkout.
>
>
>
>
>
> For those with kids, or on a budget, or who loathe the idea of reading a
>
> book on a Kindle or somesuch, you can't beat your public librar