[Texascavers] kerry coleman

2011-07-26 Thread bcow911
This is to Austin cavers and Bexar Grotto members that attend the meetings at 
Chesters Hambergers in SA. Kerry was the waitress that was assigned to us for 
several years and was well liked by all. She was taken to the hospital 
yesterday after suffering  a CVA(stroke). Her thermal reg center was all messed 
up as well as severe intracranial pressure. She was taken off life support this 
morning and never regain consciousness.Present plans are for creamation. 
Funeral plans will follow.

   bob cowell

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[SWR] Last call for Bat Workshop

2011-07-26 Thread Ken Harrington

Hi all,
 
The USFS is sponsoring a bat workshop to be held in two parts.  The first 
session will be a comprehnsive session and held on Aug 10th thru the 12th (Wed, 
Thurs, Fri).  There will be day classes and evening field trips for hands on 
use of the bat detecting equipment.
 
On Saturday, Aug 13th there will be an abreviated session with class time 
during the day and a field trip in the evening.
 
The classes will be held in the NCKRI building in Carlsbad.
 
If you have not e-mailed me to sign up for either session and are interesting 
in attending please let me know ASAP.  It is first come first served.
 
The classes will be conducted by a BCI instructor.
 
If you have previously sent me your name, you do not have to respond again as I 
have you on the list for the session that you requested already.
 
Ken
 


Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass - It's about dancing in the 
rain.  ___
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[Texascavers] Conference deadlines: Planetary Caves, Cave and Karst Management, Karst Soils

2011-07-26 Thread George Veni
Dear Friends,

 

Conference deadlines are approaching rapidly! Below are three conferences
that may interest you. All are sponsored by NCKRI and the first will be the
first conference held at NCKRI's newly-built headquarters! 

 

Please distribute this message to anyone you think may be interested. For
more information, contact the sources below.

 

George

 

--

 

The First International Planetary Cave Research Workshop is a follow-up to
the 2008 Lava Tube Workshop held in Grant, New Mexico, which brought
together researchers with interests in lava tubes from diverse backgrounds,
ranging from image analysis to modeling to robotics. 

This workshop is the first in a continuing series of meetings that are
intended to promote the exchange of knowledge and ideas between planetary
and terrestrial scientists interested in cave exploration and research
across the solar system. In recognition of the broad scope,
interdisciplinary nature, and strong international interest in this topic,
the participation of any interested scientist with relevant theoretical,
experimental, or field experience is strongly encouraged.

The workshop will incorporate oral and poster presentations as well as
extended discussion dispersed around a one-day field trip to local caves.
The workshop will bring together researchers with interests in planetary
caves from diverse backgrounds in image analysis, modeling, and terrestrial
analog studies. A small group setting will facilitate intensive discussion
of problems and issues in an attempt to identify the most promising
approaches to understanding these cave systems and to develop a
collaborative interdisciplinary research agenda. 

The First International Planetary Cave Research Workshop: Implications for
Astrobiology, Climate, Detection, and Exploration will be held October
25-28, 2011, at the National Cave and Karst Research Institute, 400-1
Cascades Avenue, Carlsbad, NM 88220 USA (phone: 575-887-5518). The workshop
will also include a one-day field trip.

Abstract Deadline: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 5:00 p.m.
 U.S. Central Daylight
Time (GMT-5)

Registration Deadline: October 11, 2011 (no on-site registration will be
available)

 

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/caves2011/caves20112nd.shtml

 

--

 

Subject: 2011 National Cave & Karst Management Symposium

From: cami_mckin...@nps.gov [mailto:cami_mckin...@nps.gov]

 

Good Morning Friends of Caves & Karst!

 

Just wanted to remind everyone that early registration for the 2011 National
Cave & Karst Management Symposium ends this weekend!  Planning for the NCKMS
is really starting to come together.  It is going to be the perfect event to
learn and network from people invested in cave and karst management,
ecosystems, and research and there are some really great people already
registered.  Don't miss out on the registration discounts!

 

Find registration at:  http://nckms2011.eventbrite.com/ 

 

When you fill out your registration form- you will be required to select a
field trip.  The Logan Canyon field trip will show some really amazing
alpine karst and hydrological features but there are limited seating for
this trip.  The Timpanogos Cave field trip will get you out in the mountains
and get you hiking- this will not be your typical cave tour!  The field trip
will focus on management issues and challenges of a show cave in a
mountainous environment.

 

In addition to the sessions and the field trips, there are several valuable
workshops available.  Project Underground for outdoor(underground) education
is perfect for people involved in education and interpretation. And don't
miss Bat Conservation International's Bat Cave Assessment and Management.
These will be offered on Monday October 3.  While the workshops are going on
there will also be a vertical rope training for those who need to hone in on
rope skills.  All of these classes have limited seating and are starting to
fill up so don't miss out!

 

Finally, the event is being held at the beautiful Zermatt Resort in Midway.
This five star resort is giving us a KILLER deal on a block of rooms.  When
they are gone, they are gone, so make your reservations now before they
disappear!  We have been given a special reservation number at 855-549-6707.

 

Some of the upcoming deadlines for the NCKMS:

July 31 Early registration ends

August 1  Scholarship Applications Due

August 15Abstracts and Biographical Sketches Due

October 15  Final Papers Due

 

Read about the event, the location, the venue and more at:
www.nckms.org/2011. And please forward this to anyone you think may be
interested! 

 

See you there! 

 

Cami McKinney 

2011 NCKMS Chair

801-756-5239 x 501


--

 

Soil in karst environments: its role in hydrology and functio

[Texascavers] yakima roof rack for sale

2011-07-26 Thread Nancy Weaver
Locking tower roof rack. 40" crossbars, fits any vehicle with 
appropriate clips available at REI.  3 upright bike mounts and set of 
boat supports.  Seen plenty of action on many caving trips and still 
functional.  $100 firm for everything.  See in Wimberley.


contact Nancy at 512 847 7422 or respond to email.

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[Texascavers] Missing from Groad Hollow - tub of tie-dye

2011-07-26 Thread Justin Leigh Shaw
Greetings,

   To those of us who were wise enough to go to the NSS convention in
Colorado...

   I had an 18gal blue tote containing 12 tie-dye shirts and a set of
tie-dye sheets disappear from Groad Hollow on Saturday morning.

   Did this end up in your truck?

Thanks,
   Justin


texascavers Digest 26 Jul 2011 21:49:36 -0000 Issue 1356

2011-07-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 26 Jul 2011 21:49:36 - Issue 1356

Topics (messages 18242 through 18251):

Bexar Grotto program for Monday 7/25
18242 by: Tom Florer
18243 by: Bill Bentley

Experts Baffled by Mysterious Underground Chambers in Bavaria
18244 by: Daniel Morgan
18245 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net

Re: BSA Troop 33 wants to go Spelunking
18246 by: ellie.thoene
18247 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
18249 by: Matt Turner

NSS Convention Pix, Reports, Thoughts, and Detritus
18248 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

kerry coleman
18250 by: bcow911.satx.rr.com

Conference deadlines: Planetary Caves, Cave and Karst Management, Karst Soils
18251 by: George Veni

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--- Begin Message ---
Cavers,  


Graham Schindel will be presenting a program on the caves of Montana at the 
Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday, July 25th.  It should provide a nice change of 
scenery for those of us who have been stuck in Texas too long, and were not 
able to attend the convention in Colorado.  


The Bexar Grotto meets on the second and fourth Monday of each month at 
Chester's Hamburgers, on the NW corner of Highway 281 and Thousand Oaks Drive 
in San Antonio.  Hope to see you there!

-Tom
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
But I drank a beer with you at the Convention Or who was it? I wondered why 
he kept looking at me funny when I called him Tom...

Bill
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Florer 
  To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:29 PM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto program for Monday 7/25


  Cavers,  



  Graham Schindel will be presenting a program on the caves of Montana at the 
Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday, July 25th.  It should provide a nice change of 
scenery for those of us who have been stuck in Texas too long, and were not 
able to attend the convention in Colorado.  



  The Bexar Grotto meets on the second and fourth Monday of each month at 
Chester's Hamburgers, on the NW corner of Highway 281 and Thousand Oaks Drive 
in San Antonio.  Hope to see you there!


  -Tom
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
"There are more than 700 curious tunnel networks in Bavaria, but their
purpose remains a mystery. Were they built as graves for the souls of the
dead, as ritual spaces or as hideaways from marauding bandits? Archeologists
are now exploring the subterranean vaults to unravel their secrets."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,775348,00.html
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---


My geologist friends in Bavaria are currently looking into this.
 
TJul 25, 2011 12:46:39 AM, morgan.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
"There are more than 700 curious tunnel networks in Bavaria, but their purpose remains a mystery. Were they built as graves for the souls of the dead, as ritual spaces or as hideaways from marauding bandits? Archeologists are now exploring the subterranean vaults to unravel their secrets."


http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,775348,00.html



--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
Was there anyone in Austin interested in speaking about caving to this BSA
troop? These guys haven't heard from anyone and I thought I would give it
one last try to the list serve.

They are not asking for anyone to be tour guide, just for someone to talk to
the boys.

They are looking for someone who could speak about *"local caves and what
you need to know before you start caving -how you get started in the sport,
information resources, the fundamental safety rules, what you can expect, -
(eg dark muddy wet tight conditions),   the skills you need to master, the
gear you need, how expensive it is, and why caving is fun.  Pictures would
be great.  We have a computer it could be displayed on.  I was thinking of
30 to 40 minutes but we are flexible."*

Please let me know.

Ellie
Posting as TSA Vice Chair

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:

> Anyone interested in helping these guys out?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> - Forwarded Message 
> *From:* Charles McDonald 
> *To:* youthcav...@cavetexas.org; chair...@cavetexas.org;
> vicechair...@cavetexas.org; secret...@cavetexas.org; saf...@cavetexas.org;
> members...@cavetexas.org
> *Sent:* Sat, July 16, 2011 4:22:30 PM
> *Subject:* BSA Troop 33 wants to go Spelunking
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> Boy Scout Troop 33 is planning a guided spelunking trip over the Labor Day
> weekend.  It would be great if we could have an experienced caver speak to
> the Troop beforehand and orient us to this sport and its opportunities in
> this area.  Would anyone in your group be interested in talking to us?  We
> meet at 7:00 pm on Monday evenings at St Ignatius Catholic church at Oltorf
> and S. Congress in Austi

[Texascavers] kerry coleman

2011-07-26 Thread bcow911
This is to Austin cavers and Bexar Grotto members that attend the meetings at 
Chesters Hambergers in SA. Kerry was the waitress that was assigned to us for 
several years and was well liked by all. She was taken to the hospital 
yesterday after suffering  a CVA(stroke). Her thermal reg center was all messed 
up as well as severe intracranial pressure. She was taken off life support this 
morning and never regain consciousness.Present plans are for creamation. 
Funeral plans will follow.

   bob cowell

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[SWR] Last call for Bat Workshop

2011-07-26 Thread Ken Harrington

Hi all,
 
The USFS is sponsoring a bat workshop to be held in two parts.  The first 
session will be a comprehnsive session and held on Aug 10th thru the 12th (Wed, 
Thurs, Fri).  There will be day classes and evening field trips for hands on 
use of the bat detecting equipment.
 
On Saturday, Aug 13th there will be an abreviated session with class time 
during the day and a field trip in the evening.
 
The classes will be held in the NCKRI building in Carlsbad.
 
If you have not e-mailed me to sign up for either session and are interesting 
in attending please let me know ASAP.  It is first come first served.
 
The classes will be conducted by a BCI instructor.
 
If you have previously sent me your name, you do not have to respond again as I 
have you on the list for the session that you requested already.
 
Ken
 


Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass - It's about dancing in the 
rain.  ___
SWR mailing list
s...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net


[Texascavers] Conference deadlines: Planetary Caves, Cave and Karst Management, Karst Soils

2011-07-26 Thread George Veni
Dear Friends,

 

Conference deadlines are approaching rapidly! Below are three conferences
that may interest you. All are sponsored by NCKRI and the first will be the
first conference held at NCKRI's newly-built headquarters! 

 

Please distribute this message to anyone you think may be interested. For
more information, contact the sources below.

 

George

 

--

 

The First International Planetary Cave Research Workshop is a follow-up to
the 2008 Lava Tube Workshop held in Grant, New Mexico, which brought
together researchers with interests in lava tubes from diverse backgrounds,
ranging from image analysis to modeling to robotics. 

This workshop is the first in a continuing series of meetings that are
intended to promote the exchange of knowledge and ideas between planetary
and terrestrial scientists interested in cave exploration and research
across the solar system. In recognition of the broad scope,
interdisciplinary nature, and strong international interest in this topic,
the participation of any interested scientist with relevant theoretical,
experimental, or field experience is strongly encouraged.

The workshop will incorporate oral and poster presentations as well as
extended discussion dispersed around a one-day field trip to local caves.
The workshop will bring together researchers with interests in planetary
caves from diverse backgrounds in image analysis, modeling, and terrestrial
analog studies. A small group setting will facilitate intensive discussion
of problems and issues in an attempt to identify the most promising
approaches to understanding these cave systems and to develop a
collaborative interdisciplinary research agenda. 

The First International Planetary Cave Research Workshop: Implications for
Astrobiology, Climate, Detection, and Exploration will be held October
25-28, 2011, at the National Cave and Karst Research Institute, 400-1
Cascades Avenue, Carlsbad, NM 88220 USA (phone: 575-887-5518). The workshop
will also include a one-day field trip.

Abstract Deadline: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 5:00 p.m.
 U.S. Central Daylight
Time (GMT-5)

Registration Deadline: October 11, 2011 (no on-site registration will be
available)

 

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/caves2011/caves20112nd.shtml

 

--

 

Subject: 2011 National Cave & Karst Management Symposium

From: cami_mckin...@nps.gov [mailto:cami_mckin...@nps.gov]

 

Good Morning Friends of Caves & Karst!

 

Just wanted to remind everyone that early registration for the 2011 National
Cave & Karst Management Symposium ends this weekend!  Planning for the NCKMS
is really starting to come together.  It is going to be the perfect event to
learn and network from people invested in cave and karst management,
ecosystems, and research and there are some really great people already
registered.  Don't miss out on the registration discounts!

 

Find registration at:  http://nckms2011.eventbrite.com/ 

 

When you fill out your registration form- you will be required to select a
field trip.  The Logan Canyon field trip will show some really amazing
alpine karst and hydrological features but there are limited seating for
this trip.  The Timpanogos Cave field trip will get you out in the mountains
and get you hiking- this will not be your typical cave tour!  The field trip
will focus on management issues and challenges of a show cave in a
mountainous environment.

 

In addition to the sessions and the field trips, there are several valuable
workshops available.  Project Underground for outdoor(underground) education
is perfect for people involved in education and interpretation. And don't
miss Bat Conservation International's Bat Cave Assessment and Management.
These will be offered on Monday October 3.  While the workshops are going on
there will also be a vertical rope training for those who need to hone in on
rope skills.  All of these classes have limited seating and are starting to
fill up so don't miss out!

 

Finally, the event is being held at the beautiful Zermatt Resort in Midway.
This five star resort is giving us a KILLER deal on a block of rooms.  When
they are gone, they are gone, so make your reservations now before they
disappear!  We have been given a special reservation number at 855-549-6707.

 

Some of the upcoming deadlines for the NCKMS:

July 31 Early registration ends

August 1  Scholarship Applications Due

August 15Abstracts and Biographical Sketches Due

October 15  Final Papers Due

 

Read about the event, the location, the venue and more at:
www.nckms.org/2011. And please forward this to anyone you think may be
interested! 

 

See you there! 

 

Cami McKinney 

2011 NCKMS Chair

801-756-5239 x 501


--

 

Soil in karst environments: its role in hydrology and functio

[Texascavers] yakima roof rack for sale

2011-07-26 Thread Nancy Weaver
Locking tower roof rack. 40" crossbars, fits any vehicle with 
appropriate clips available at REI.  3 upright bike mounts and set of 
boat supports.  Seen plenty of action on many caving trips and still 
functional.  $100 firm for everything.  See in Wimberley.


contact Nancy at 512 847 7422 or respond to email.

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[Texascavers] Missing from Groad Hollow - tub of tie-dye

2011-07-26 Thread Justin Leigh Shaw
Greetings,

   To those of us who were wise enough to go to the NSS convention in
Colorado...

   I had an 18gal blue tote containing 12 tie-dye shirts and a set of
tie-dye sheets disappear from Groad Hollow on Saturday morning.

   Did this end up in your truck?

Thanks,
   Justin


texascavers Digest 26 Jul 2011 21:49:36 -0000 Issue 1356

2011-07-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 26 Jul 2011 21:49:36 - Issue 1356

Topics (messages 18242 through 18251):

Bexar Grotto program for Monday 7/25
18242 by: Tom Florer
18243 by: Bill Bentley

Experts Baffled by Mysterious Underground Chambers in Bavaria
18244 by: Daniel Morgan
18245 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net

Re: BSA Troop 33 wants to go Spelunking
18246 by: ellie.thoene
18247 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
18249 by: Matt Turner

NSS Convention Pix, Reports, Thoughts, and Detritus
18248 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

kerry coleman
18250 by: bcow911.satx.rr.com

Conference deadlines: Planetary Caves, Cave and Karst Management, Karst Soils
18251 by: George Veni

Administrivia:

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--
--- Begin Message ---
Cavers,  


Graham Schindel will be presenting a program on the caves of Montana at the 
Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday, July 25th.  It should provide a nice change of 
scenery for those of us who have been stuck in Texas too long, and were not 
able to attend the convention in Colorado.  


The Bexar Grotto meets on the second and fourth Monday of each month at 
Chester's Hamburgers, on the NW corner of Highway 281 and Thousand Oaks Drive 
in San Antonio.  Hope to see you there!

-Tom
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
But I drank a beer with you at the Convention Or who was it? I wondered why 
he kept looking at me funny when I called him Tom...

Bill
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Florer 
  To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:29 PM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto program for Monday 7/25


  Cavers,  



  Graham Schindel will be presenting a program on the caves of Montana at the 
Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday, July 25th.  It should provide a nice change of 
scenery for those of us who have been stuck in Texas too long, and were not 
able to attend the convention in Colorado.  



  The Bexar Grotto meets on the second and fourth Monday of each month at 
Chester's Hamburgers, on the NW corner of Highway 281 and Thousand Oaks Drive 
in San Antonio.  Hope to see you there!


  -Tom
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
"There are more than 700 curious tunnel networks in Bavaria, but their
purpose remains a mystery. Were they built as graves for the souls of the
dead, as ritual spaces or as hideaways from marauding bandits? Archeologists
are now exploring the subterranean vaults to unravel their secrets."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,775348,00.html
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---


My geologist friends in Bavaria are currently looking into this.
 
TJul 25, 2011 12:46:39 AM, morgan.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
"There are more than 700 curious tunnel networks in Bavaria, but their purpose remains a mystery. Were they built as graves for the souls of the dead, as ritual spaces or as hideaways from marauding bandits? Archeologists are now exploring the subterranean vaults to unravel their secrets."


http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,775348,00.html



--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
Was there anyone in Austin interested in speaking about caving to this BSA
troop? These guys haven't heard from anyone and I thought I would give it
one last try to the list serve.

They are not asking for anyone to be tour guide, just for someone to talk to
the boys.

They are looking for someone who could speak about *"local caves and what
you need to know before you start caving -how you get started in the sport,
information resources, the fundamental safety rules, what you can expect, -
(eg dark muddy wet tight conditions),   the skills you need to master, the
gear you need, how expensive it is, and why caving is fun.  Pictures would
be great.  We have a computer it could be displayed on.  I was thinking of
30 to 40 minutes but we are flexible."*

Please let me know.

Ellie
Posting as TSA Vice Chair

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:

> Anyone interested in helping these guys out?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> - Forwarded Message 
> *From:* Charles McDonald 
> *To:* youthcav...@cavetexas.org; chair...@cavetexas.org;
> vicechair...@cavetexas.org; secret...@cavetexas.org; saf...@cavetexas.org;
> members...@cavetexas.org
> *Sent:* Sat, July 16, 2011 4:22:30 PM
> *Subject:* BSA Troop 33 wants to go Spelunking
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> Boy Scout Troop 33 is planning a guided spelunking trip over the Labor Day
> weekend.  It would be great if we could have an experienced caver speak to
> the Troop beforehand and orient us to this sport and its opportunities in
> this area.  Would anyone in your group be interested in talking to us?  We
> meet at 7:00 pm on Monday evenings at St Ignatius Catholic church at Oltorf
> and S. Congress in Austi

[Texascavers] kerry coleman

2011-07-26 Thread bcow911
This is to Austin cavers and Bexar Grotto members that attend the meetings at 
Chesters Hambergers in SA. Kerry was the waitress that was assigned to us for 
several years and was well liked by all. She was taken to the hospital 
yesterday after suffering  a CVA(stroke). Her thermal reg center was all messed 
up as well as severe intracranial pressure. She was taken off life support this 
morning and never regain consciousness.Present plans are for creamation. 
Funeral plans will follow.

   bob cowell

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[SWR] Last call for Bat Workshop

2011-07-26 Thread Ken Harrington

Hi all,
 
The USFS is sponsoring a bat workshop to be held in two parts.  The first 
session will be a comprehnsive session and held on Aug 10th thru the 12th (Wed, 
Thurs, Fri).  There will be day classes and evening field trips for hands on 
use of the bat detecting equipment.
 
On Saturday, Aug 13th there will be an abreviated session with class time 
during the day and a field trip in the evening.
 
The classes will be held in the NCKRI building in Carlsbad.
 
If you have not e-mailed me to sign up for either session and are interesting 
in attending please let me know ASAP.  It is first come first served.
 
The classes will be conducted by a BCI instructor.
 
If you have previously sent me your name, you do not have to respond again as I 
have you on the list for the session that you requested already.
 
Ken
 


Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass - It's about dancing in the 
rain.  ___
SWR mailing list
s...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net


[Texascavers] Conference deadlines: Planetary Caves, Cave and Karst Management, Karst Soils

2011-07-26 Thread George Veni
Dear Friends,

 

Conference deadlines are approaching rapidly! Below are three conferences
that may interest you. All are sponsored by NCKRI and the first will be the
first conference held at NCKRI's newly-built headquarters! 

 

Please distribute this message to anyone you think may be interested. For
more information, contact the sources below.

 

George

 

--

 

The First International Planetary Cave Research Workshop is a follow-up to
the 2008 Lava Tube Workshop held in Grant, New Mexico, which brought
together researchers with interests in lava tubes from diverse backgrounds,
ranging from image analysis to modeling to robotics. 

This workshop is the first in a continuing series of meetings that are
intended to promote the exchange of knowledge and ideas between planetary
and terrestrial scientists interested in cave exploration and research
across the solar system. In recognition of the broad scope,
interdisciplinary nature, and strong international interest in this topic,
the participation of any interested scientist with relevant theoretical,
experimental, or field experience is strongly encouraged.

The workshop will incorporate oral and poster presentations as well as
extended discussion dispersed around a one-day field trip to local caves.
The workshop will bring together researchers with interests in planetary
caves from diverse backgrounds in image analysis, modeling, and terrestrial
analog studies. A small group setting will facilitate intensive discussion
of problems and issues in an attempt to identify the most promising
approaches to understanding these cave systems and to develop a
collaborative interdisciplinary research agenda. 

The First International Planetary Cave Research Workshop: Implications for
Astrobiology, Climate, Detection, and Exploration will be held October
25-28, 2011, at the National Cave and Karst Research Institute, 400-1
Cascades Avenue, Carlsbad, NM 88220 USA (phone: 575-887-5518). The workshop
will also include a one-day field trip.

Abstract Deadline: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 5:00 p.m.
 U.S. Central Daylight
Time (GMT-5)

Registration Deadline: October 11, 2011 (no on-site registration will be
available)

 

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/caves2011/caves20112nd.shtml

 

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Subject: 2011 National Cave & Karst Management Symposium

From: cami_mckin...@nps.gov [mailto:cami_mckin...@nps.gov]

 

Good Morning Friends of Caves & Karst!

 

Just wanted to remind everyone that early registration for the 2011 National
Cave & Karst Management Symposium ends this weekend!  Planning for the NCKMS
is really starting to come together.  It is going to be the perfect event to
learn and network from people invested in cave and karst management,
ecosystems, and research and there are some really great people already
registered.  Don't miss out on the registration discounts!

 

Find registration at:  http://nckms2011.eventbrite.com/ 

 

When you fill out your registration form- you will be required to select a
field trip.  The Logan Canyon field trip will show some really amazing
alpine karst and hydrological features but there are limited seating for
this trip.  The Timpanogos Cave field trip will get you out in the mountains
and get you hiking- this will not be your typical cave tour!  The field trip
will focus on management issues and challenges of a show cave in a
mountainous environment.

 

In addition to the sessions and the field trips, there are several valuable
workshops available.  Project Underground for outdoor(underground) education
is perfect for people involved in education and interpretation. And don't
miss Bat Conservation International's Bat Cave Assessment and Management.
These will be offered on Monday October 3.  While the workshops are going on
there will also be a vertical rope training for those who need to hone in on
rope skills.  All of these classes have limited seating and are starting to
fill up so don't miss out!

 

Finally, the event is being held at the beautiful Zermatt Resort in Midway.
This five star resort is giving us a KILLER deal on a block of rooms.  When
they are gone, they are gone, so make your reservations now before they
disappear!  We have been given a special reservation number at 855-549-6707.

 

Some of the upcoming deadlines for the NCKMS:

July 31 Early registration ends

August 1  Scholarship Applications Due

August 15Abstracts and Biographical Sketches Due

October 15  Final Papers Due

 

Read about the event, the location, the venue and more at:
www.nckms.org/2011. And please forward this to anyone you think may be
interested! 

 

See you there! 

 

Cami McKinney 

2011 NCKMS Chair

801-756-5239 x 501


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[Texascavers] yakima roof rack for sale

2011-07-26 Thread Nancy Weaver
Locking tower roof rack. 40" crossbars, fits any vehicle with 
appropriate clips available at REI.  3 upright bike mounts and set of 
boat supports.  Seen plenty of action on many caving trips and still 
functional.  $100 firm for everything.  See in Wimberley.


contact Nancy at 512 847 7422 or respond to email.

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[Texascavers] Missing from Groad Hollow - tub of tie-dye

2011-07-26 Thread Justin Leigh Shaw
Greetings,

   To those of us who were wise enough to go to the NSS convention in
Colorado...

   I had an 18gal blue tote containing 12 tie-dye shirts and a set of
tie-dye sheets disappear from Groad Hollow on Saturday morning.

   Did this end up in your truck?

Thanks,
   Justin


texascavers Digest 26 Jul 2011 21:49:36 -0000 Issue 1356

2011-07-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 26 Jul 2011 21:49:36 - Issue 1356

Topics (messages 18242 through 18251):

Bexar Grotto program for Monday 7/25
18242 by: Tom Florer
18243 by: Bill Bentley

Experts Baffled by Mysterious Underground Chambers in Bavaria
18244 by: Daniel Morgan
18245 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net

Re: BSA Troop 33 wants to go Spelunking
18246 by: ellie.thoene
18247 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
18249 by: Matt Turner

NSS Convention Pix, Reports, Thoughts, and Detritus
18248 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

kerry coleman
18250 by: bcow911.satx.rr.com

Conference deadlines: Planetary Caves, Cave and Karst Management, Karst Soils
18251 by: George Veni

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Cavers,  


Graham Schindel will be presenting a program on the caves of Montana at the 
Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday, July 25th.  It should provide a nice change of 
scenery for those of us who have been stuck in Texas too long, and were not 
able to attend the convention in Colorado.  


The Bexar Grotto meets on the second and fourth Monday of each month at 
Chester's Hamburgers, on the NW corner of Highway 281 and Thousand Oaks Drive 
in San Antonio.  Hope to see you there!

-Tom
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But I drank a beer with you at the Convention Or who was it? I wondered why 
he kept looking at me funny when I called him Tom...

Bill
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Florer 
  To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:29 PM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto program for Monday 7/25


  Cavers,  



  Graham Schindel will be presenting a program on the caves of Montana at the 
Bexar Grotto meeting on Monday, July 25th.  It should provide a nice change of 
scenery for those of us who have been stuck in Texas too long, and were not 
able to attend the convention in Colorado.  



  The Bexar Grotto meets on the second and fourth Monday of each month at 
Chester's Hamburgers, on the NW corner of Highway 281 and Thousand Oaks Drive 
in San Antonio.  Hope to see you there!


  -Tom
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"There are more than 700 curious tunnel networks in Bavaria, but their
purpose remains a mystery. Were they built as graves for the souls of the
dead, as ritual spaces or as hideaways from marauding bandits? Archeologists
are now exploring the subterranean vaults to unravel their secrets."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,775348,00.html
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My geologist friends in Bavaria are currently looking into this.
 
TJul 25, 2011 12:46:39 AM, morgan.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
"There are more than 700 curious tunnel networks in Bavaria, but their purpose remains a mystery. Were they built as graves for the souls of the dead, as ritual spaces or as hideaways from marauding bandits? Archeologists are now exploring the subterranean vaults to unravel their secrets."


http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,775348,00.html



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Was there anyone in Austin interested in speaking about caving to this BSA
troop? These guys haven't heard from anyone and I thought I would give it
one last try to the list serve.

They are not asking for anyone to be tour guide, just for someone to talk to
the boys.

They are looking for someone who could speak about *"local caves and what
you need to know before you start caving -how you get started in the sport,
information resources, the fundamental safety rules, what you can expect, -
(eg dark muddy wet tight conditions),   the skills you need to master, the
gear you need, how expensive it is, and why caving is fun.  Pictures would
be great.  We have a computer it could be displayed on.  I was thinking of
30 to 40 minutes but we are flexible."*

Please let me know.

Ellie
Posting as TSA Vice Chair

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:

> Anyone interested in helping these guys out?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> - Forwarded Message 
> *From:* Charles McDonald 
> *To:* youthcav...@cavetexas.org; chair...@cavetexas.org;
> vicechair...@cavetexas.org; secret...@cavetexas.org; saf...@cavetexas.org;
> members...@cavetexas.org
> *Sent:* Sat, July 16, 2011 4:22:30 PM
> *Subject:* BSA Troop 33 wants to go Spelunking
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> Boy Scout Troop 33 is planning a guided spelunking trip over the Labor Day
> weekend.  It would be great if we could have an experienced caver speak to
> the Troop beforehand and orient us to this sport and its opportunities in
> this area.  Would anyone in your group be interested in talking to us?  We
> meet at 7:00 pm on Monday evenings at St Ignatius Catholic church at Oltorf
> and S. Congress in Austi