RE: [Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

[Stefan Creaser]

if there is water there you can be sure the frenchies traverse about it. Follow 
the lower, wt, line and you'll beat 'em...

Stefan

From: bmorgan...@aol.com [bmorgan...@aol.com]
Sent: 21 December 2011 22:38
To: tag-...@hiddenworld.net; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

The reports continue for the simple reason that I am too sick to do anything 
except sit at a very slow internet connection. It seems that dehydration just 
set the stage for sickness. Shortly after penning the last missive it became 
apparent that I was burning up with fever, so that, not geezerhood, is the 
reason I crashed and burned on my way to the big cave. The fever broke early 
this morning and I am feeling weak but better. This is a place where ducks, 
pigs, bufffalo and chickens all have unnatural carnal relationships with 
village children, so it is the perfect place from which to spawn a pandemic. It 
will be my present to the world for christmas.

But back to the cave that I failed to enter. The Houay Gnom is a sizeble small 
river even in the dry season and has a watershed that is somewhere between 150 
and 200 square kilometers in size, not as big as the river that created Xe Bang 
Fai but big enough to create an enormous cave that no one has ever explored. 
The locals know nothing other than the upper fossil chamber that I failed to 
reach and the lower entrance which is full of raging whitewwater even in the 
dry season. They just laughed when I asked if they had ever been beyond the 
mountain to my imagined pristine valley beyond. I might as well have asked them 
if they had been to the moon.

It is hard to imagine that no caver has noticed this before, especially those 
damned Frenchmen who apparently have nothing better to do than to take caving 
seriously and think they still own the country. If you would like to see it 
yourself it is easy enough to do. The University of Texas Castenada map library 
has on line digital copies of 1965 vintage CIA maps that are fairly accurate 
but badly out of date. For example Nong Khiaw didn't exist in 65 and there were 
no roads anywhere. If you want to see where the big cave is just pull up the 
maps for the Nam Ou which empties into the Mekong at Luang Prabang in central 
Laos. Then use more modern maps to figure out where Nong Khiaw is. The giant 
karst peaks are a dead givaway. From there backtrack downstream about 25 
kilometers and look for Ban Then Ken. The Houay Gnom is the stream that enters 
the Nam Ou about a kilometer downstream. It will be obvious where the cave is.

There is no way in hell I am going to be the one to explore the cave with one 
light and a fever wracked almost 64 year old carcass, so who is gonna take the 
bait? Can't let the Frenchies have all the fun!

Sleaze

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RE: [Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

[Stefan Creaser]

if there is water there you can be sure the frenchies traverse about it. Follow 
the lower, wt, line and you'll beat 'em...

Stefan

From: bmorgan...@aol.com [bmorgan...@aol.com]
Sent: 21 December 2011 22:38
To: tag-...@hiddenworld.net; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

The reports continue for the simple reason that I am too sick to do anything 
except sit at a very slow internet connection. It seems that dehydration just 
set the stage for sickness. Shortly after penning the last missive it became 
apparent that I was burning up with fever, so that, not geezerhood, is the 
reason I crashed and burned on my way to the big cave. The fever broke early 
this morning and I am feeling weak but better. This is a place where ducks, 
pigs, bufffalo and chickens all have unnatural carnal relationships with 
village children, so it is the perfect place from which to spawn a pandemic. It 
will be my present to the world for christmas.

But back to the cave that I failed to enter. The Houay Gnom is a sizeble small 
river even in the dry season and has a watershed that is somewhere between 150 
and 200 square kilometers in size, not as big as the river that created Xe Bang 
Fai but big enough to create an enormous cave that no one has ever explored. 
The locals know nothing other than the upper fossil chamber that I failed to 
reach and the lower entrance which is full of raging whitewwater even in the 
dry season. They just laughed when I asked if they had ever been beyond the 
mountain to my imagined pristine valley beyond. I might as well have asked them 
if they had been to the moon.

It is hard to imagine that no caver has noticed this before, especially those 
damned Frenchmen who apparently have nothing better to do than to take caving 
seriously and think they still own the country. If you would like to see it 
yourself it is easy enough to do. The University of Texas Castenada map library 
has on line digital copies of 1965 vintage CIA maps that are fairly accurate 
but badly out of date. For example Nong Khiaw didn't exist in 65 and there were 
no roads anywhere. If you want to see where the big cave is just pull up the 
maps for the Nam Ou which empties into the Mekong at Luang Prabang in central 
Laos. Then use more modern maps to figure out where Nong Khiaw is. The giant 
karst peaks are a dead givaway. From there backtrack downstream about 25 
kilometers and look for Ban Then Ken. The Houay Gnom is the stream that enters 
the Nam Ou about a kilometer downstream. It will be obvious where the cave is.

There is no way in hell I am going to be the one to explore the cave with one 
light and a fever wracked almost 64 year old carcass, so who is gonna take the 
bait? Can't let the Frenchies have all the fun!

Sleaze

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RE: [Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

[Stefan Creaser]

if there is water there you can be sure the frenchies traverse about it. Follow 
the lower, wt, line and you'll beat 'em...

Stefan

From: bmorgan...@aol.com [bmorgan...@aol.com]
Sent: 21 December 2011 22:38
To: tag-...@hiddenworld.net; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

The reports continue for the simple reason that I am too sick to do anything 
except sit at a very slow internet connection. It seems that dehydration just 
set the stage for sickness. Shortly after penning the last missive it became 
apparent that I was burning up with fever, so that, not geezerhood, is the 
reason I crashed and burned on my way to the big cave. The fever broke early 
this morning and I am feeling weak but better. This is a place where ducks, 
pigs, bufffalo and chickens all have unnatural carnal relationships with 
village children, so it is the perfect place from which to spawn a pandemic. It 
will be my present to the world for christmas.

But back to the cave that I failed to enter. The Houay Gnom is a sizeble small 
river even in the dry season and has a watershed that is somewhere between 150 
and 200 square kilometers in size, not as big as the river that created Xe Bang 
Fai but big enough to create an enormous cave that no one has ever explored. 
The locals know nothing other than the upper fossil chamber that I failed to 
reach and the lower entrance which is full of raging whitewwater even in the 
dry season. They just laughed when I asked if they had ever been beyond the 
mountain to my imagined pristine valley beyond. I might as well have asked them 
if they had been to the moon.

It is hard to imagine that no caver has noticed this before, especially those 
damned Frenchmen who apparently have nothing better to do than to take caving 
seriously and think they still own the country. If you would like to see it 
yourself it is easy enough to do. The University of Texas Castenada map library 
has on line digital copies of 1965 vintage CIA maps that are fairly accurate 
but badly out of date. For example Nong Khiaw didn't exist in 65 and there were 
no roads anywhere. If you want to see where the big cave is just pull up the 
maps for the Nam Ou which empties into the Mekong at Luang Prabang in central 
Laos. Then use more modern maps to figure out where Nong Khiaw is. The giant 
karst peaks are a dead givaway. From there backtrack downstream about 25 
kilometers and look for Ban Then Ken. The Houay Gnom is the stream that enters 
the Nam Ou about a kilometer downstream. It will be obvious where the cave is.

There is no way in hell I am going to be the one to explore the cave with one 
light and a fever wracked almost 64 year old carcass, so who is gonna take the 
bait? Can't let the Frenchies have all the fun!

Sleaze

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confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, 
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[Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

[bmorgan994]

The reports continue for the simple reason that I am too sick to do anything 
except sit at a very slow internet connection. It seems that dehydration just 
set the stage for sickness. Shortly after penning the last missive it became 
apparent that I was burning up with fever, so that, not geezerhood, is the 
reason I crashed and burned on my way to the big cave. The fever broke early 
this morning and I am feeling weak but better. This is a place where ducks, 
pigs, bufffalo and chickens all have unnatural carnal relationships with 
village children, so it is the perfect place from which to spawn a pandemic. It 
will be my present to the world for christmas. 
 
But back to the cave that I failed to enter. The Houay Gnom is a sizeble small 
river even in the dry season and has a watershed that is somewhere between 150 
and 200 square kilometers in size, not as big as the river that created Xe Bang 
Fai but big enough to create an enormous cave that no one has ever explored. 
The locals know nothing other than the upper fossil chamber that I failed to 
reach and the lower entrance which is full of raging whitewwater even in the 
dry season. They just laughed when I asked if they had ever been beyond the 
mountain to my imagined pristine valley beyond. I might as well have asked them 
if they had been to the moon.

It is hard to imagine that no caver has noticed this before, especially those 
damned Frenchmen who apparently have nothing better to do than to take caving 
seriously and think they still own the country. If you would like to see it 
yourself it is easy enough to do. The University of Texas Castenada map library 
has on line digital copies of 1965 vintage CIA maps that are fairly accurate 
but badly out of date. For example Nong Khiaw didn't exist in 65 and there were 
no roads anywhere. If you want to see where the big cave is just pull up the 
maps for the Nam Ou which empties into the Mekong at Luang Prabang in central 
Laos. Then use more modern maps to figure out where Nong Khiaw is. The giant 
karst peaks are a dead givaway. From there backtrack downstream about 25 
kilometers and look for Ban Then Ken. The Houay Gnom is the stream that enters 
the Nam Ou about a kilometer downstream. It will be obvious where the cave is. 

There is no way in hell I am going to be the one to explore the cave with one 
light and a fever wracked almost 64 year old carcass, so who is gonna take the 
bait? Can't let the Frenchies have all the fun!

Sleaze

[Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

[bmorgan994]

The reports continue for the simple reason that I am too sick to do anything 
except sit at a very slow internet connection. It seems that dehydration just 
set the stage for sickness. Shortly after penning the last missive it became 
apparent that I was burning up with fever, so that, not geezerhood, is the 
reason I crashed and burned on my way to the big cave. The fever broke early 
this morning and I am feeling weak but better. This is a place where ducks, 
pigs, bufffalo and chickens all have unnatural carnal relationships with 
village children, so it is the perfect place from which to spawn a pandemic. It 
will be my present to the world for christmas. 
 
But back to the cave that I failed to enter. The Houay Gnom is a sizeble small 
river even in the dry season and has a watershed that is somewhere between 150 
and 200 square kilometers in size, not as big as the river that created Xe Bang 
Fai but big enough to create an enormous cave that no one has ever explored. 
The locals know nothing other than the upper fossil chamber that I failed to 
reach and the lower entrance which is full of raging whitewwater even in the 
dry season. They just laughed when I asked if they had ever been beyond the 
mountain to my imagined pristine valley beyond. I might as well have asked them 
if they had been to the moon.

It is hard to imagine that no caver has noticed this before, especially those 
damned Frenchmen who apparently have nothing better to do than to take caving 
seriously and think they still own the country. If you would like to see it 
yourself it is easy enough to do. The University of Texas Castenada map library 
has on line digital copies of 1965 vintage CIA maps that are fairly accurate 
but badly out of date. For example Nong Khiaw didn't exist in 65 and there were 
no roads anywhere. If you want to see where the big cave is just pull up the 
maps for the Nam Ou which empties into the Mekong at Luang Prabang in central 
Laos. Then use more modern maps to figure out where Nong Khiaw is. The giant 
karst peaks are a dead givaway. From there backtrack downstream about 25 
kilometers and look for Ban Then Ken. The Houay Gnom is the stream that enters 
the Nam Ou about a kilometer downstream. It will be obvious where the cave is. 

There is no way in hell I am going to be the one to explore the cave with one 
light and a fever wracked almost 64 year old carcass, so who is gonna take the 
bait? Can't let the Frenchies have all the fun!

Sleaze

[Texascavers] Nong Khiaw 3

[bmorgan994]

The reports continue for the simple reason that I am too sick to do anything 
except sit at a very slow internet connection. It seems that dehydration just 
set the stage for sickness. Shortly after penning the last missive it became 
apparent that I was burning up with fever, so that, not geezerhood, is the 
reason I crashed and burned on my way to the big cave. The fever broke early 
this morning and I am feeling weak but better. This is a place where ducks, 
pigs, bufffalo and chickens all have unnatural carnal relationships with 
village children, so it is the perfect place from which to spawn a pandemic. It 
will be my present to the world for christmas. 
 
But back to the cave that I failed to enter. The Houay Gnom is a sizeble small 
river even in the dry season and has a watershed that is somewhere between 150 
and 200 square kilometers in size, not as big as the river that created Xe Bang 
Fai but big enough to create an enormous cave that no one has ever explored. 
The locals know nothing other than the upper fossil chamber that I failed to 
reach and the lower entrance which is full of raging whitewwater even in the 
dry season. They just laughed when I asked if they had ever been beyond the 
mountain to my imagined pristine valley beyond. I might as well have asked them 
if they had been to the moon.

It is hard to imagine that no caver has noticed this before, especially those 
damned Frenchmen who apparently have nothing better to do than to take caving 
seriously and think they still own the country. If you would like to see it 
yourself it is easy enough to do. The University of Texas Castenada map library 
has on line digital copies of 1965 vintage CIA maps that are fairly accurate 
but badly out of date. For example Nong Khiaw didn't exist in 65 and there were 
no roads anywhere. If you want to see where the big cave is just pull up the 
maps for the Nam Ou which empties into the Mekong at Luang Prabang in central 
Laos. Then use more modern maps to figure out where Nong Khiaw is. The giant 
karst peaks are a dead givaway. From there backtrack downstream about 25 
kilometers and look for Ban Then Ken. The Houay Gnom is the stream that enters 
the Nam Ou about a kilometer downstream. It will be obvious where the cave is. 

There is no way in hell I am going to be the one to explore the cave with one 
light and a fever wracked almost 64 year old carcass, so who is gonna take the 
bait? Can't let the Frenchies have all the fun!

Sleaze

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Mimi Jasek]

My oh my, don't you just love social networking sites:)

Geary, you do just fine as you are!

FYI, some folks are restricted from social networks by their employers. Fancy 
that - someone worried about privacy!

Mimi Jasek - caving in Texas since '73
James Jasek - ditto since '55
FB subscribers since 2010
FB UNsubscribers since 2011!

Dare to be independent!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Geary Schindel  
wrote:

> I have to agree with Carl, I’m not part of the UT facebook group and I’m not 
> sure even how to join.  However, I do enjoy the announcements of the UT 
> Grotto on Texas Cavers and occasionally drive to Austin for a meeting when it 
> will fit into my schedule.
>  
> Oh well, guess I’ll have to get with the program.
>  
> Geary
>  
> From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:56 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>  
> I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely manner, 
> any who might be interested in attending.
> The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored forum 
> seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
>  
> ===Carl Kunath
>  
> From: wesley s
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>  
> Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent 
> social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the current social 
> activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good that the current 
> and all subsequent officers of the organization will not exercise backward 
> compatability in information disemination. You have been warned. 
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social 
> group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT 
> Grotto. If they had been on here they would have responded themselves. 
>  

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Mimi Jasek]

My oh my, don't you just love social networking sites:)

Geary, you do just fine as you are!

FYI, some folks are restricted from social networks by their employers. Fancy 
that - someone worried about privacy!

Mimi Jasek - caving in Texas since '73
James Jasek - ditto since '55
FB subscribers since 2010
FB UNsubscribers since 2011!

Dare to be independent!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Geary Schindel  
wrote:

> I have to agree with Carl, I’m not part of the UT facebook group and I’m not 
> sure even how to join.  However, I do enjoy the announcements of the UT 
> Grotto on Texas Cavers and occasionally drive to Austin for a meeting when it 
> will fit into my schedule.
>  
> Oh well, guess I’ll have to get with the program.
>  
> Geary
>  
> From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:56 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>  
> I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely manner, 
> any who might be interested in attending.
> The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored forum 
> seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
>  
> ===Carl Kunath
>  
> From: wesley s
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>  
> Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent 
> social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the current social 
> activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good that the current 
> and all subsequent officers of the organization will not exercise backward 
> compatability in information disemination. You have been warned. 
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social 
> group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT 
> Grotto. If they had been on here they would have responded themselves. 
>  

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Mimi Jasek]

My oh my, don't you just love social networking sites:)

Geary, you do just fine as you are!

FYI, some folks are restricted from social networks by their employers. Fancy 
that - someone worried about privacy!

Mimi Jasek - caving in Texas since '73
James Jasek - ditto since '55
FB subscribers since 2010
FB UNsubscribers since 2011!

Dare to be independent!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Geary Schindel  
wrote:

> I have to agree with Carl, I’m not part of the UT facebook group and I’m not 
> sure even how to join.  However, I do enjoy the announcements of the UT 
> Grotto on Texas Cavers and occasionally drive to Austin for a meeting when it 
> will fit into my schedule.
>  
> Oh well, guess I’ll have to get with the program.
>  
> Geary
>  
> From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:56 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>  
> I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely manner, 
> any who might be interested in attending.
> The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored forum 
> seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
>  
> ===Carl Kunath
>  
> From: wesley s
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>  
> Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent 
> social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the current social 
> activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good that the current 
> and all subsequent officers of the organization will not exercise backward 
> compatability in information disemination. You have been warned. 
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social 
> group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT 
> Grotto. If they had been on here they would have responded themselves. 
>  

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Gary Franklin]

Sorry for the delay,
I posted under a new thread.  You will continue to get the latest UT Grotto
News here on CaveTex.
Gary

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Butch Fralia wrote:

> Note that cavers registered in the TSA member area can make additions to
> the
> TSA calendar.  Feel free to add grotto meetings to the calendar and get
> people in the habit of one stop shopping for caving events.
>
> Regards,
> Butch Fralia
> TSA Webmaster.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: katherine arens [mailto:k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:04 PM
> To: Carl Kunath
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>  Hey, why have a grotto calendar if facebook is the only way to find us?
> and secondary, i agree -- apps keep asking for your info.  no. never.] and
> now there are only about a half-dozen pages to check.  NOT easier.  not
> even
> close k On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Carl Kunath wrote:
>
> > I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely
> > manner, any who might be interested in attending.
> > The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored
> > forum seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> > Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
> >
> > ===Carl Kunath
> >
> > From: wesley s
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> > To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
> >
> > Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more
> > recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
> > current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are
> > good that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization
> > will not exercise backward compatability in information disemination.
> > You have been warned.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned
> > social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by
> > the actual UT Grotto. If they had been on here they would have
> > responded themselves.
> >
>
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Gary Franklin]

Sorry for the delay,
I posted under a new thread.  You will continue to get the latest UT Grotto
News here on CaveTex.
Gary

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Butch Fralia wrote:

> Note that cavers registered in the TSA member area can make additions to
> the
> TSA calendar.  Feel free to add grotto meetings to the calendar and get
> people in the habit of one stop shopping for caving events.
>
> Regards,
> Butch Fralia
> TSA Webmaster.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: katherine arens [mailto:k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:04 PM
> To: Carl Kunath
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>  Hey, why have a grotto calendar if facebook is the only way to find us?
> and secondary, i agree -- apps keep asking for your info.  no. never.] and
> now there are only about a half-dozen pages to check.  NOT easier.  not
> even
> close k On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Carl Kunath wrote:
>
> > I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely
> > manner, any who might be interested in attending.
> > The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored
> > forum seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> > Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
> >
> > ===Carl Kunath
> >
> > From: wesley s
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> > To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
> >
> > Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more
> > recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
> > current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are
> > good that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization
> > will not exercise backward compatability in information disemination.
> > You have been warned.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned
> > social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by
> > the actual UT Grotto. If they had been on here they would have
> > responded themselves.
> >
>
> 
> Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363
> k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
> Dept. of Germanic Studies   FAX (512) 471-4025
> 1 University Station C3300  Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
> University of Texas at Austin   Office:  Burdine 320
> Austin, TX  78712-0304
>
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Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Gary Franklin]

Sorry for the delay,
I posted under a new thread.  You will continue to get the latest UT Grotto
News here on CaveTex.
Gary

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Butch Fralia wrote:

> Note that cavers registered in the TSA member area can make additions to
> the
> TSA calendar.  Feel free to add grotto meetings to the calendar and get
> people in the habit of one stop shopping for caving events.
>
> Regards,
> Butch Fralia
> TSA Webmaster.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: katherine arens [mailto:k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:04 PM
> To: Carl Kunath
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>  Hey, why have a grotto calendar if facebook is the only way to find us?
> and secondary, i agree -- apps keep asking for your info.  no. never.] and
> now there are only about a half-dozen pages to check.  NOT easier.  not
> even
> close k On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Carl Kunath wrote:
>
> > I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely
> > manner, any who might be interested in attending.
> > The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored
> > forum seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> > Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
> >
> > ===Carl Kunath
> >
> > From: wesley s
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> > To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
> >
> > Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more
> > recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
> > current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are
> > good that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization
> > will not exercise backward compatability in information disemination.
> > You have been warned.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned
> > social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by
> > the actual UT Grotto. If they had been on here they would have
> > responded themselves.
> >
>
> 
> Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363
> k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
> Dept. of Germanic Studies   FAX (512) 471-4025
> 1 University Station C3300  Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
> University of Texas at Austin   Office:  Burdine 320
> Austin, TX  78712-0304
>
>   -. .-
>  _..-'()`-.._
>  ./'. '||\\.(\_/) .//||` .`\.
>   ./'.|'.'\\|..)O O(..|//`.`|.`\.
> ./'..|'.|| |\`` '`" '` ''/| ||.`|..`\.
>   ./'.||'. .  .  .`||.`\.
>  /'|||'.|| {   } ||.`|||`\
> '.|||'.||| {   } |||.`|||.`
> '.||| | |/'   ``\||`` ''||/''   `\| | |||.`
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[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting TONIGHT

[Gary Franklin]

Howdy Cavers.

You are invited to a guarantee of fun at the UT Grotto meeting TONIGHT !!
Wednesday December 21, 2011  7:45PM - 9:00PM
University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street,
Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html

Final Exams thwarted our meeting last time, but we are on at our regular
time in the room that we have occupied for many years.

Andrea Croskrey will Present the program for the evening as-
The Far West in Lechuguilla Cave - A discussion on the potential of finding
new cave on the western edge of the 7th longest cave in the world following
observations from a week long expedition to the area in October 2011.
Photos and descriptions of beautiful cave formations from the area
included...because they are pretty  Come check out the great program and
for the fun and fellowship with Austin Texas Cavers.

For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org
Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links
to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available.

Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo  www.saopaulos.net  for
happy hour specials.  This area is the best place to park and meet folks
walking over to the meeting.  Then after the official meeting, we continue
with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall
tales of caving at Posse East.  www.posse-east.com

The UT Grotto needs you, YES YOU !!!, the caver with photos and a story to
share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really
cool.  Contact me.

Sincerely,

Gary Franklin
UT Grotto Vice Chair & Program Organizer
512-585-6057
v...@utgrotto.org

Andrea Croskrey 

[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting TONIGHT

[Gary Franklin]

Howdy Cavers.

You are invited to a guarantee of fun at the UT Grotto meeting TONIGHT !!
Wednesday December 21, 2011  7:45PM - 9:00PM
University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street,
Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html

Final Exams thwarted our meeting last time, but we are on at our regular
time in the room that we have occupied for many years.

Andrea Croskrey will Present the program for the evening as-
The Far West in Lechuguilla Cave - A discussion on the potential of finding
new cave on the western edge of the 7th longest cave in the world following
observations from a week long expedition to the area in October 2011.
Photos and descriptions of beautiful cave formations from the area
included...because they are pretty  Come check out the great program and
for the fun and fellowship with Austin Texas Cavers.

For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org
Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links
to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available.

Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo  www.saopaulos.net  for
happy hour specials.  This area is the best place to park and meet folks
walking over to the meeting.  Then after the official meeting, we continue
with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall
tales of caving at Posse East.  www.posse-east.com

The UT Grotto needs you, YES YOU !!!, the caver with photos and a story to
share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really
cool.  Contact me.

Sincerely,

Gary Franklin
UT Grotto Vice Chair & Program Organizer
512-585-6057
v...@utgrotto.org

Andrea Croskrey 

[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting TONIGHT

[Gary Franklin]

Howdy Cavers.

You are invited to a guarantee of fun at the UT Grotto meeting TONIGHT !!
Wednesday December 21, 2011  7:45PM - 9:00PM
University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street,
Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html

Final Exams thwarted our meeting last time, but we are on at our regular
time in the room that we have occupied for many years.

Andrea Croskrey will Present the program for the evening as-
The Far West in Lechuguilla Cave - A discussion on the potential of finding
new cave on the western edge of the 7th longest cave in the world following
observations from a week long expedition to the area in October 2011.
Photos and descriptions of beautiful cave formations from the area
included...because they are pretty  Come check out the great program and
for the fun and fellowship with Austin Texas Cavers.

For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org
Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links
to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available.

Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo  www.saopaulos.net  for
happy hour specials.  This area is the best place to park and meet folks
walking over to the meeting.  Then after the official meeting, we continue
with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall
tales of caving at Posse East.  www.posse-east.com

The UT Grotto needs you, YES YOU !!!, the caver with photos and a story to
share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really
cool.  Contact me.

Sincerely,

Gary Franklin
UT Grotto Vice Chair & Program Organizer
512-585-6057
v...@utgrotto.org

Andrea Croskrey 

RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Butch Fralia]

Note that cavers registered in the TSA member area can make additions to the
TSA calendar.  Feel free to add grotto meetings to the calendar and get
people in the habit of one stop shopping for caving events.

Regards,
Butch Fralia
TSA Webmaster.

-Original Message-
From: katherine arens [mailto:k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:04 PM
To: Carl Kunath
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

Hey, why have a grotto calendar if facebook is the only way to find us?
and secondary, i agree -- apps keep asking for your info.  no. never.] and
now there are only about a half-dozen pages to check.  NOT easier.  not even
close k On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Carl Kunath wrote:

> I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely 
> manner, any who might be interested in attending.
> The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored 
> forum seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
>
> ===Carl Kunath
>
> From: wesley s
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
> Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more 
> recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the 
> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are 
> good that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization 
> will not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. 
> You have been warned.
>
> Thank you.
>
> This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned 
> social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by 
> the actual UT Grotto. If they had been on here they would have 
> responded themselves.
>


Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363
k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
Dept. of Germanic Studies   FAX (512) 471-4025
1 University Station C3300  Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
University of Texas at Austin   Office:  Burdine 320
Austin, TX  78712-0304

   -. .-
  _..-'()`-.._
  ./'. '||\\.(\_/) .//||` .`\.
   ./'.|'.'\\|..)O O(..|//`.`|.`\.
 ./'..|'.|| |\`` '`" '` ''/| ||.`|..`\.
   ./'.||'. .  .  .`||.`\.
  /'|||'.|| {   } ||.`|||`\
 '.|||'.||| {   } |||.`|||.`
 '.||| | |/'   ``\||`` ''||/''   `\| | |||.`
  |/' \./' `\./\!|\   /|!/\./' `\./ `\|
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RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Butch Fralia]

Note that cavers registered in the TSA member area can make additions to the
TSA calendar.  Feel free to add grotto meetings to the calendar and get
people in the habit of one stop shopping for caving events.

Regards,
Butch Fralia
TSA Webmaster.

-Original Message-
From: katherine arens [mailto:k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:04 PM
To: Carl Kunath
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

Hey, why have a grotto calendar if facebook is the only way to find us?
and secondary, i agree -- apps keep asking for your info.  no. never.] and
now there are only about a half-dozen pages to check.  NOT easier.  not even
close k On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Carl Kunath wrote:

> I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely 
> manner, any who might be interested in attending.
> The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored 
> forum seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
>
> ===Carl Kunath
>
> From: wesley s
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
> Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more 
> recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the 
> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are 
> good that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization 
> will not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. 
> You have been warned.
>
> Thank you.
>
> This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned 
> social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by 
> the actual UT Grotto. If they had been on here they would have 
> responded themselves.
>


Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363
k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
Dept. of Germanic Studies   FAX (512) 471-4025
1 University Station C3300  Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
University of Texas at Austin   Office:  Burdine 320
Austin, TX  78712-0304

   -. .-
  _..-'()`-.._
  ./'. '||\\.(\_/) .//||` .`\.
   ./'.|'.'\\|..)O O(..|//`.`|.`\.
 ./'..|'.|| |\`` '`" '` ''/| ||.`|..`\.
   ./'.||'. .  .  .`||.`\.
  /'|||'.|| {   } ||.`|||`\
 '.|||'.||| {   } |||.`|||.`
 '.||| | |/'   ``\||`` ''||/''   `\| | |||.`
  |/' \./' `\./\!|\   /|!/\./' `\./ `\|
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RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Butch Fralia]

Note that cavers registered in the TSA member area can make additions to the
TSA calendar.  Feel free to add grotto meetings to the calendar and get
people in the habit of one stop shopping for caving events.

Regards,
Butch Fralia
TSA Webmaster.

-Original Message-
From: katherine arens [mailto:k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:04 PM
To: Carl Kunath
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

Hey, why have a grotto calendar if facebook is the only way to find us?
and secondary, i agree -- apps keep asking for your info.  no. never.] and
now there are only about a half-dozen pages to check.  NOT easier.  not even
close k On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Carl Kunath wrote:

> I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely 
> manner, any who might be interested in attending.
> The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored 
> forum seems grossly counterproductive and illogical.
> Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.
>
> ===Carl Kunath
>
> From: wesley s
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
> Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more 
> recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the 
> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are 
> good that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization 
> will not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. 
> You have been warned.
>
> Thank you.
>
> This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned 
> social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by 
> the actual UT Grotto. If they had been on here they would have 
> responded themselves.
>


Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363
k.ar...@mail.utexas.edu Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
Dept. of Germanic Studies   FAX (512) 471-4025
1 University Station C3300  Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
University of Texas at Austin   Office:  Burdine 320
Austin, TX  78712-0304

   -. .-
  _..-'()`-.._
  ./'. '||\\.(\_/) .//||` .`\.
   ./'.|'.'\\|..)O O(..|//`.`|.`\.
 ./'..|'.|| |\`` '`" '` ''/| ||.`|..`\.
   ./'.||'. .  .  .`||.`\.
  /'|||'.|| {   } ||.`|||`\
 '.|||'.||| {   } |||.`|||.`
 '.||| | |/'   ``\||`` ''||/''   `\| | |||.`
  |/' \./' `\./\!|\   /|!/\./' `\./ `\|
 V  VV}' `\ /' `{V   VV




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Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[caverarch]

Sorry, I meant that previous note for Logan privately.


Roger Moore







 

 

Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[caverarch]

Sorry, I meant that previous note for Logan privately.


Roger Moore







 

 

Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[caverarch]

Sorry, I meant that previous note for Logan privately.


Roger Moore







 

 

Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[caverarch]

Logan, 


Never mind.  I fugured out how to "back into" the file search from one of the 
Longhorn plans.  And there is only one SJ map, thought it is one that I 
(personally) haven't seen before.


Roger



-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt 
To: Texas Cavers 
Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 6:40 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps 
drawings


These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is the link 
to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&title=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Search

 From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the Civilian 
Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to preserve 
land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and 1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas state 
parks. Twenty-nine still exist.

Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the Texas 
State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection also 
includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."



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Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[caverarch]

Logan, 


Never mind.  I fugured out how to "back into" the file search from one of the 
Longhorn plans.  And there is only one SJ map, thought it is one that I 
(personally) haven't seen before.


Roger



-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt 
To: Texas Cavers 
Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 6:40 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps 
drawings


These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is the link 
to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&title=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Search

 From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the Civilian 
Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to preserve 
land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and 1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas state 
parks. Twenty-nine still exist.

Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the Texas 
State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection also 
includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."



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Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[caverarch]

Logan, 


Never mind.  I fugured out how to "back into" the file search from one of the 
Longhorn plans.  And there is only one SJ map, thought it is one that I 
(personally) haven't seen before.


Roger



-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt 
To: Texas Cavers 
Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 6:40 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps 
drawings


These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is the link 
to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&title=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Search

 From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the Civilian 
Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to preserve 
land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and 1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas state 
parks. Twenty-nine still exist.

Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the Texas 
State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection also 
includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."



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RE: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[Mark . Alman]

That link is exceptionally cool, Logan, especially with the ongoing
Longhorn Caverns Project (next project weekend is February 4th!).


Very cool and informative and fascinating window to the past. 

I think I know what I'll be doing this weekend!



A huge thanks for posting the link and have a good Christmas.



Mark 





-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:31 AM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation
Corps drawings

These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is
the link to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&ti
tle=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Searc
h



 From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the
Civilian Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to
preserve land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and
1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas
state parks. Twenty-nine still exist.

Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the
Texas State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection
also includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."



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RE: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[Mark . Alman]

That link is exceptionally cool, Logan, especially with the ongoing
Longhorn Caverns Project (next project weekend is February 4th!).


Very cool and informative and fascinating window to the past. 

I think I know what I'll be doing this weekend!



A huge thanks for posting the link and have a good Christmas.



Mark 





-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:31 AM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation
Corps drawings

These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is
the link to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&ti
tle=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Searc
h



 From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the
Civilian Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to
preserve land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and
1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas
state parks. Twenty-nine still exist.

Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the
Texas State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection
also includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."



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RE: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[Mark . Alman]

That link is exceptionally cool, Logan, especially with the ongoing
Longhorn Caverns Project (next project weekend is February 4th!).


Very cool and informative and fascinating window to the past. 

I think I know what I'll be doing this weekend!



A huge thanks for posting the link and have a good Christmas.



Mark 





-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:31 AM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation
Corps drawings

These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is
the link to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&ti
tle=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Searc
h



 From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the
Civilian Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to
preserve land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and
1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas
state parks. Twenty-nine still exist.

Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the
Texas State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection
also includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."



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[Texascavers] Eco Activists Slam Bulgaria Govt for Covering Expendables from Bat Accusations

[Lee H. Skinner]

Bulgarian environmental organization Green Balkans has protested a 
report by the Ministry of Environment, which found filming Hollwood 
blockbuster "The Expendables 2" in a local cave did not harm bats living 
there.


The probe, results from which were announced Tuesday, came on the heals 
of alarms by eco activists who said that due to noise and light from the 
shooting, bats in the Devetashka Cave were significantly disturbed 
.


The Devetashka Cave, located in central northern Bulgaria, houses for 
the winter a key European bat colony, with many endangered species 
protected in the country and Europe.


An excessive number of dead bats were found after the shooting of "The 
Expendables 2," claimed environmentalists.


It was reported a week ago that the European Commission has sent a 
letter to the Bulgarian *Ministry of Environment and Waters*, inquiring 
information on the case with the dead *bats* in the *Devetashka cave*. 



Experts of the Ministry and now say that the majority of *bats* were 
found to be in hibernation and the dead ones were within the norm of the 
usual mortality rate.


Tuesday, Green Balkans recalled that a number of international wildlife 
protection organizations, such as UNEP/ЕUROBATS, BatLife Europe, Bat 
Conservation Trust, the European Speleological Federation, and CEEweb 
for biodiversity, have also pressed the case at the Bulgarian Ministry 
of Environment.



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[Texascavers] Eco Activists Slam Bulgaria Govt for Covering Expendables from Bat Accusations

[Lee H. Skinner]

Bulgarian environmental organization Green Balkans has protested a 
report by the Ministry of Environment, which found filming Hollwood 
blockbuster "The Expendables 2" in a local cave did not harm bats living 
there.


The probe, results from which were announced Tuesday, came on the heals 
of alarms by eco activists who said that due to noise and light from the 
shooting, bats in the Devetashka Cave were significantly disturbed 
.


The Devetashka Cave, located in central northern Bulgaria, houses for 
the winter a key European bat colony, with many endangered species 
protected in the country and Europe.


An excessive number of dead bats were found after the shooting of "The 
Expendables 2," claimed environmentalists.


It was reported a week ago that the European Commission has sent a 
letter to the Bulgarian *Ministry of Environment and Waters*, inquiring 
information on the case with the dead *bats* in the *Devetashka cave*. 



Experts of the Ministry and now say that the majority of *bats* were 
found to be in hibernation and the dead ones were within the norm of the 
usual mortality rate.


Tuesday, Green Balkans recalled that a number of international wildlife 
protection organizations, such as UNEP/ЕUROBATS, BatLife Europe, Bat 
Conservation Trust, the European Speleological Federation, and CEEweb 
for biodiversity, have also pressed the case at the Bulgarian Ministry 
of Environment.



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[Texascavers] Eco Activists Slam Bulgaria Govt for Covering Expendables from Bat Accusations

[Lee H. Skinner]

Bulgarian environmental organization Green Balkans has protested a 
report by the Ministry of Environment, which found filming Hollwood 
blockbuster "The Expendables 2" in a local cave did not harm bats living 
there.


The probe, results from which were announced Tuesday, came on the heals 
of alarms by eco activists who said that due to noise and light from the 
shooting, bats in the Devetashka Cave were significantly disturbed 
.


The Devetashka Cave, located in central northern Bulgaria, houses for 
the winter a key European bat colony, with many endangered species 
protected in the country and Europe.


An excessive number of dead bats were found after the shooting of "The 
Expendables 2," claimed environmentalists.


It was reported a week ago that the European Commission has sent a 
letter to the Bulgarian *Ministry of Environment and Waters*, inquiring 
information on the case with the dead *bats* in the *Devetashka cave*. 



Experts of the Ministry and now say that the majority of *bats* were 
found to be in hibernation and the dead ones were within the norm of the 
usual mortality rate.


Tuesday, Green Balkans recalled that a number of international wildlife 
protection organizations, such as UNEP/ЕUROBATS, BatLife Europe, Bat 
Conservation Trust, the European Speleological Federation, and CEEweb 
for biodiversity, have also pressed the case at the Bulgarian Ministry 
of Environment.



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[Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[Logan McNatt]

These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is the link 
to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&title=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Search

From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the Civilian Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to preserve land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and 1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas state parks. Twenty-nine still exist.


Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the Texas State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection also includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."




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[Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[Logan McNatt]

These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is the link 
to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&title=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Search

From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the Civilian Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to preserve land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and 1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas state parks. Twenty-nine still exist.


Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the Texas State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection also includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."




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[Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern State Park- Civilian Conservation Corps drawings

[Logan McNatt]

These architectural drawings are very detailed and artistic.  Here is the link 
to Longhorn Cavern SP:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/apps/arc/CCCDrawings/index.php?accNumber=&title=&year=&architect=&parkName=Longhorn+Cavern+State+Park&dosearch=Search

From the website:

"In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to create the Civilian Conservation Corps as part of his "New Deal." The program 
provided jobs to young with families in need, while allowing Texas to preserve land and establish its state parks system. Between 1933 and 1942, 
the government invested more than 20 million into developing 41 Texas state parks. Twenty-nine still exist.


Funded by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the Texas State Library and Archives Commission has digitized some 3,900 
large-format drawings documenting Texas park development. The collection also includes some later drawings that record revisions and additions."




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texascavers Digest 21 Dec 2011 16:27:08 -0000 Issue 1460

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texascavers Digest 21 Dec 2011 16:27:08 - Issue 1460

Topics (messages 19236 through 19246):

Re: UT Grotto meeting
19236 by: Andy Edwards
19237 by: Heather Tucek
19238 by: Stefan Creaser
19239 by: Logan McNatt
19240 by: Carl Kunath
19241 by: katherine arens
19243 by: Heather Tucek
19244 by: Geary Schindel
19245 by: Gill Edigar

Nong Khiaw 2
19242 by: bmorgan994.aol.com

The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park
19246 by: Jim Kennedy

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There must be a way to get Facebook to mail all group wall posts to
external e-mail addresses such as texascavers...if not I should write a
facebook app for it

-Andy

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:

> Wes wants everyone to join FB, Fritz.
>
> As if that's necessary or desired.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>  *From:* Fritz Holt 
> *To:* 'wesley s' ; "bmixon...@austin.rr.com" <
> bmixon...@austin.rr.com>; "texascavers@texascavers.com" <
> texascavers@texascavers.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:38 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>   Could you repeat that in English?
>
>   *From:* wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> *To:* bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>  Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent
> social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good
> that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization will
> not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. You have
> been warned.
>
> Thank you.
>
>  This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social
> group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT
> Grotto. If they had been on here they would have responded themselves.
>
>  > From: bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> > To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:55:15 -0600
> > Subject: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
> >
> > The responsible (?) person seems to have stopped putting info about
> > coming UTG meetings on this list. Here's a reminder that there will be
> > a meeting in the usual place tomorrow, Wednesday, night. According to
> > the calendar at utgrotto.org, the program will be about an October
> > expedition to Lechuguilla. -- Mixon
> > 
> > For an easy holiday this year, just give everybody the finger.
> > 
> > You may "reply" to the address this message
> > came from, but for long-term use, save:
> > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
> > AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
> >
> >
> > -
> > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
> >
>
>
>
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
Get on that app writing Andy.. if I wasn't already on Facebook, I wouldn't
start now..


On 20 December 2011 16:17, Andy Edwards  wrote:

> There must be a way to get Facebook to mail all group wall posts to
> external e-mail addresses such as texascavers...if not I should write a
> facebook app for it
>
> -Andy
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:
>
>> Wes wants everyone to join FB, Fritz.
>>
>> As if that's necessary or desired.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   *From:* Fritz Holt 
>> *To:* 'wesley s' ; "bmixon...@austin.rr.com" <
>> bmixon...@austin.rr.com>; "texascavers@texascavers.com" <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:38 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>>
>>   Could you repeat that in English?
>>
>>   *From:* wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
>> *To:* bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>>
>>  Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more
>> recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
>> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good
>> that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization will
>> not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. You have
>> been warned.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>  This public service announcement was generated by a non
>> sanctioned social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was
>> it solicited by the actual UT Grotto. If they had b

texascavers Digest 21 Dec 2011 16:27:08 -0000 Issue 1460

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texascavers Digest 21 Dec 2011 16:27:08 - Issue 1460

Topics (messages 19236 through 19246):

Re: UT Grotto meeting
19236 by: Andy Edwards
19237 by: Heather Tucek
19238 by: Stefan Creaser
19239 by: Logan McNatt
19240 by: Carl Kunath
19241 by: katherine arens
19243 by: Heather Tucek
19244 by: Geary Schindel
19245 by: Gill Edigar

Nong Khiaw 2
19242 by: bmorgan994.aol.com

The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park
19246 by: Jim Kennedy

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There must be a way to get Facebook to mail all group wall posts to
external e-mail addresses such as texascavers...if not I should write a
facebook app for it

-Andy

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:

> Wes wants everyone to join FB, Fritz.
>
> As if that's necessary or desired.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>  *From:* Fritz Holt 
> *To:* 'wesley s' ; "bmixon...@austin.rr.com" <
> bmixon...@austin.rr.com>; "texascavers@texascavers.com" <
> texascavers@texascavers.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:38 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>   Could you repeat that in English?
>
>   *From:* wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> *To:* bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>  Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent
> social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good
> that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization will
> not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. You have
> been warned.
>
> Thank you.
>
>  This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social
> group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT
> Grotto. If they had been on here they would have responded themselves.
>
>  > From: bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> > To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:55:15 -0600
> > Subject: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
> >
> > The responsible (?) person seems to have stopped putting info about
> > coming UTG meetings on this list. Here's a reminder that there will be
> > a meeting in the usual place tomorrow, Wednesday, night. According to
> > the calendar at utgrotto.org, the program will be about an October
> > expedition to Lechuguilla. -- Mixon
> > 
> > For an easy holiday this year, just give everybody the finger.
> > 
> > You may "reply" to the address this message
> > came from, but for long-term use, save:
> > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
> > AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
> >
> >
> > -
> > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com
> > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
> >
>
>
>
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
Get on that app writing Andy.. if I wasn't already on Facebook, I wouldn't
start now..


On 20 December 2011 16:17, Andy Edwards  wrote:

> There must be a way to get Facebook to mail all group wall posts to
> external e-mail addresses such as texascavers...if not I should write a
> facebook app for it
>
> -Andy
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:
>
>> Wes wants everyone to join FB, Fritz.
>>
>> As if that's necessary or desired.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   *From:* Fritz Holt 
>> *To:* 'wesley s' ; "bmixon...@austin.rr.com" <
>> bmixon...@austin.rr.com>; "texascavers@texascavers.com" <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:38 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>>
>>   Could you repeat that in English?
>>
>>   *From:* wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
>> *To:* bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>>
>>  Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more
>> recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
>> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good
>> that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization will
>> not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. You have
>> been warned.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>  This public service announcement was generated by a non
>> sanctioned social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was
>> it solicited by the actual UT Grotto. If they had b

texascavers Digest 21 Dec 2011 16:27:08 -0000 Issue 1460

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texascavers Digest 21 Dec 2011 16:27:08 - Issue 1460

Topics (messages 19236 through 19246):

Re: UT Grotto meeting
19236 by: Andy Edwards
19237 by: Heather Tucek
19238 by: Stefan Creaser
19239 by: Logan McNatt
19240 by: Carl Kunath
19241 by: katherine arens
19243 by: Heather Tucek
19244 by: Geary Schindel
19245 by: Gill Edigar

Nong Khiaw 2
19242 by: bmorgan994.aol.com

The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park
19246 by: Jim Kennedy

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There must be a way to get Facebook to mail all group wall posts to
external e-mail addresses such as texascavers...if not I should write a
facebook app for it

-Andy

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:

> Wes wants everyone to join FB, Fritz.
>
> As if that's necessary or desired.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>  *From:* Fritz Holt 
> *To:* 'wesley s' ; "bmixon...@austin.rr.com" <
> bmixon...@austin.rr.com>; "texascavers@texascavers.com" <
> texascavers@texascavers.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:38 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>   Could you repeat that in English?
>
>   *From:* wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
> *To:* bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>
>  Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent
> social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good
> that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization will
> not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. You have
> been warned.
>
> Thank you.
>
>  This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social
> group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT
> Grotto. If they had been on here they would have responded themselves.
>
>  > From: bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> > To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:55:15 -0600
> > Subject: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
> >
> > The responsible (?) person seems to have stopped putting info about
> > coming UTG meetings on this list. Here's a reminder that there will be
> > a meeting in the usual place tomorrow, Wednesday, night. According to
> > the calendar at utgrotto.org, the program will be about an October
> > expedition to Lechuguilla. -- Mixon
> > 
> > For an easy holiday this year, just give everybody the finger.
> > 
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Get on that app writing Andy.. if I wasn't already on Facebook, I wouldn't
start now..


On 20 December 2011 16:17, Andy Edwards  wrote:

> There must be a way to get Facebook to mail all group wall posts to
> external e-mail addresses such as texascavers...if not I should write a
> facebook app for it
>
> -Andy
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Mark Alman  wrote:
>
>> Wes wants everyone to join FB, Fritz.
>>
>> As if that's necessary or desired.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   *From:* Fritz Holt 
>> *To:* 'wesley s' ; "bmixon...@austin.rr.com" <
>> bmixon...@austin.rr.com>; "texascavers@texascavers.com" <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:38 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>>
>>   Could you repeat that in English?
>>
>>   *From:* wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
>> *To:* bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting
>>
>>  Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more
>> recent social networking media if you wish to remain informed of the
>> current social activites of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good
>> that the current and all subsequent officers of the organization will
>> not exercise backward compatability in information disemination. You have
>> been warned.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>  This public service announcement was generated by a non
>> sanctioned social group member. It is unaffiliated with nor was
>> it solicited by the actual UT Grotto. If they had b

[Texascavers] The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park

[Jim Kennedy]

Hot from the printer!  Get your copy of the latest publication from the Texas 
Speleological Survey, The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park, edited 
by Jerry Atkinson.  58pp, 28 caves and karst features, with maps of 23 of them! 
 31 color photos, 2 color geology and location maps, and beautiful glossy 
full-color photographic cover!  History, geology, and biology sections!  A must 
have for every cave library!  And only $10‼!

I will have these for sale at the UT Grotto meeting tonight.  They will also be 
available at the normal TSS sales events (TSA Spring Convention and Texas 
Cavers Reunion), as well as by mail order with an additional $3 shipping and 
handling charge.  Get one before they are all gone!

Jim “Crash” Kennedy
TSS Office Manager

[Texascavers] The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park

[Jim Kennedy]

Hot from the printer!  Get your copy of the latest publication from the Texas 
Speleological Survey, The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park, edited 
by Jerry Atkinson.  58pp, 28 caves and karst features, with maps of 23 of them! 
 31 color photos, 2 color geology and location maps, and beautiful glossy 
full-color photographic cover!  History, geology, and biology sections!  A must 
have for every cave library!  And only $10‼!

I will have these for sale at the UT Grotto meeting tonight.  They will also be 
available at the normal TSS sales events (TSA Spring Convention and Texas 
Cavers Reunion), as well as by mail order with an additional $3 shipping and 
handling charge.  Get one before they are all gone!

Jim “Crash” Kennedy
TSS Office Manager

[Texascavers] The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park

[Jim Kennedy]

Hot from the printer!  Get your copy of the latest publication from the Texas 
Speleological Survey, The Caves and Karst of Kickapoo Cavern State Park, edited 
by Jerry Atkinson.  58pp, 28 caves and karst features, with maps of 23 of them! 
 31 color photos, 2 color geology and location maps, and beautiful glossy 
full-color photographic cover!  History, geology, and biology sections!  A must 
have for every cave library!  And only $10‼!

I will have these for sale at the UT Grotto meeting tonight.  They will also be 
available at the normal TSS sales events (TSA Spring Convention and Texas 
Cavers Reunion), as well as by mail order with an additional $3 shipping and 
handling charge.  Get one before they are all gone!

Jim “Crash” Kennedy
TSS Office Manager

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Gill Edigar]

Anyone seriously interested in getting the information to those who should
get it will use every means possible to transmit it.
--Ediger

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Gill Edigar]

Anyone seriously interested in getting the information to those who should
get it will use every means possible to transmit it.
--Ediger

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Gill Edigar]

Anyone seriously interested in getting the information to those who should
get it will use every means possible to transmit it.
--Ediger

RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Geary Schindel]

I have to agree with Carl, I'm not part of the UT facebook group and I'm not 
sure even how to join.  However, I do enjoy the announcements of the UT Grotto 
on Texas Cavers and occasionally drive to Austin for a meeting when it will fit 
into my schedule.

Oh well, guess I'll have to get with the program.

Geary

From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:56 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely manner, 
any who might be interested in attending.
The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored forum seems 
grossly counterproductive and illogical.
Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.

===Carl Kunath

From: wesley s
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent social 
networking media if you wish to remain informed of the current social activites 
of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good that the current and all 
subsequent officers of the organization will not exercise backward 
compatability in information disemination. You have been warned.

Thank you.

This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social group 
member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT Grotto. 
If they had been on here they would have responded themselves.

RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Geary Schindel]

I have to agree with Carl, I'm not part of the UT facebook group and I'm not 
sure even how to join.  However, I do enjoy the announcements of the UT Grotto 
on Texas Cavers and occasionally drive to Austin for a meeting when it will fit 
into my schedule.

Oh well, guess I'll have to get with the program.

Geary

From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:56 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely manner, 
any who might be interested in attending.
The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored forum seems 
grossly counterproductive and illogical.
Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.

===Carl Kunath

From: wesley s
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent social 
networking media if you wish to remain informed of the current social activites 
of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good that the current and all 
subsequent officers of the organization will not exercise backward 
compatability in information disemination. You have been warned.

Thank you.

This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social group 
member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT Grotto. 
If they had been on here they would have responded themselves.

RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

[Geary Schindel]

I have to agree with Carl, I'm not part of the UT facebook group and I'm not 
sure even how to join.  However, I do enjoy the announcements of the UT Grotto 
on Texas Cavers and occasionally drive to Austin for a meeting when it will fit 
into my schedule.

Oh well, guess I'll have to get with the program.

Geary

From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:56 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

I thought the idea of announcing meetings was to inform, in a timely manner, 
any who might be interested in attending.
The logic of restricting such announcements from a widely monitored forum seems 
grossly counterproductive and illogical.
Perhaps the second paragraph explains this apparent conundrum.

===Carl Kunath

From: wesley s
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:37 PM
To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com ; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting

Attention all cavetex perusers please make the transition to more recent social 
networking media if you wish to remain informed of the current social activites 
of the UT grotto and its members. Chances are good that the current and all 
subsequent officers of the organization will not exercise backward 
compatability in information disemination. You have been warned.

Thank you.

This public service announcement was generated by a non sanctioned social group 
member. It is unaffiliated with nor was it solicited by the actual UT Grotto. 
If they had been on here they would have responded themselves.