Re: [Texascavers] travels in Mexico

[Nico Escamilla]

Where's the like button?
El viernes, 10 de agosto de 2012, Nancy Weaver escribió:

> Just returned from a 10 day splendid driving trip from Austin to
> Zacatecas.  We had a swift friendly crossing at Laredo, an easy drive on
> the toll road south.  We spent a couple of days in Real de Catorce, hiking
> and hanging out with friends then drove to my 72 yr old companion's casita
> in the mts of Jalisco, between Monte Escobedo (controlled by invisible
> zetas) and Mexquitic (ditto guzmans)  Rumour has it that occasionally the
> road between the two towns is contested for ownership;  we saw no sign of
> that or any other trouble.  Lots of great hiking in the mts and barrancas,
> visited both towns which were clean prosperous and friendly, drove all over
> backroad Mexico, then had two delightful days in Ciudad  Zacatecas  - a
> gorgeous vibrant musical traveler filled city.  Mexico is alive and well
> and wonderful as ever.
>
> Nancy
>
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Re: [Texascavers] travels in Mexico

[Nico Escamilla]

Where's the like button?
El viernes, 10 de agosto de 2012, Nancy Weaver escribió:

> Just returned from a 10 day splendid driving trip from Austin to
> Zacatecas.  We had a swift friendly crossing at Laredo, an easy drive on
> the toll road south.  We spent a couple of days in Real de Catorce, hiking
> and hanging out with friends then drove to my 72 yr old companion's casita
> in the mts of Jalisco, between Monte Escobedo (controlled by invisible
> zetas) and Mexquitic (ditto guzmans)  Rumour has it that occasionally the
> road between the two towns is contested for ownership;  we saw no sign of
> that or any other trouble.  Lots of great hiking in the mts and barrancas,
> visited both towns which were clean prosperous and friendly, drove all over
> backroad Mexico, then had two delightful days in Ciudad  Zacatecas  - a
> gorgeous vibrant musical traveler filled city.  Mexico is alive and well
> and wonderful as ever.
>
> Nancy
>
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Re: [Texascavers] travels in Mexico

[Nico Escamilla]

Where's the like button?
El viernes, 10 de agosto de 2012, Nancy Weaver escribió:

> Just returned from a 10 day splendid driving trip from Austin to
> Zacatecas.  We had a swift friendly crossing at Laredo, an easy drive on
> the toll road south.  We spent a couple of days in Real de Catorce, hiking
> and hanging out with friends then drove to my 72 yr old companion's casita
> in the mts of Jalisco, between Monte Escobedo (controlled by invisible
> zetas) and Mexquitic (ditto guzmans)  Rumour has it that occasionally the
> road between the two towns is contested for ownership;  we saw no sign of
> that or any other trouble.  Lots of great hiking in the mts and barrancas,
> visited both towns which were clean prosperous and friendly, drove all over
> backroad Mexico, then had two delightful days in Ciudad  Zacatecas  - a
> gorgeous vibrant musical traveler filled city.  Mexico is alive and well
> and wonderful as ever.
>
> Nancy
>
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[Texascavers] Fwd: Sinopoda scurion

[David Ochel]

the first eyeless huntsman spider species... ;-) -David

 Original Message 
Subject: Sinopoda scurion
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:45:37 +0200
From: Rolf Siegenthaler 
To: Liste Suisse 

Hallo zusammen,

Es ist soweit, das Paper über die weltweit erste augenlose
Riesenkrabbenspinne, die in einer Höhle in Laos entdeckt wurde, ist
publiziert :-)

Abstract: http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/z03415p057f.pdf
Full article: http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/zt03415p057.pdf

Wir haben die Biopatenschaft für das Tierchen übernommen und sind
stolz, dass es unseren Namen trägt. Mehr dazu im Anhang...

Liebe Grüsse
Rolf





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[Texascavers] Fwd: Sinopoda scurion

[David Ochel]

the first eyeless huntsman spider species... ;-) -David

 Original Message 
Subject: Sinopoda scurion
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:45:37 +0200
From: Rolf Siegenthaler 
To: Liste Suisse 

Hallo zusammen,

Es ist soweit, das Paper über die weltweit erste augenlose
Riesenkrabbenspinne, die in einer Höhle in Laos entdeckt wurde, ist
publiziert :-)

Abstract: http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/z03415p057f.pdf
Full article: http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/zt03415p057.pdf

Wir haben die Biopatenschaft für das Tierchen übernommen und sind
stolz, dass es unseren Namen trägt. Mehr dazu im Anhang...

Liebe Grüsse
Rolf





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[Texascavers] Fwd: Sinopoda scurion

[David Ochel]

the first eyeless huntsman spider species... ;-) -David

 Original Message 
Subject: Sinopoda scurion
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:45:37 +0200
From: Rolf Siegenthaler 
To: Liste Suisse 

Hallo zusammen,

Es ist soweit, das Paper über die weltweit erste augenlose
Riesenkrabbenspinne, die in einer Höhle in Laos entdeckt wurde, ist
publiziert :-)

Abstract: http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/z03415p057f.pdf
Full article: http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2012/f/zt03415p057.pdf

Wir haben die Biopatenschaft für das Tierchen übernommen und sind
stolz, dass es unseren Namen trägt. Mehr dazu im Anhang...

Liebe Grüsse
Rolf





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[ot_caving] New water heater

[Louise Power]

I have to get a new water heater for my recently purchased home. I'd like to 
know if anyone has experience with the on-demand, no-tank water heaters. If so, 
did you like it, not like it, think it was better than or not as good as a 
traditional water heater. Also, gas or electric? Since I have a gas furnace and 
electric everything else, I have a choice. In the next year or so, I'm going to 
have my kitchen replumbed for a gas stove and then have that extended into the 
living room for gas logs. So, as I said, I have options. 
I know that the purchase price is more expensive than for a traditional water 
heater, but will it save me enough $$$ in the long run to warrant the expense? 
I plan for this to be my last move, so am willing to invest a little to improve 
the house. Avista (the local gas co) will give me a substantial rebate on one 
of the on-demand water heaters. I'm asking you guys because of the variety of 
preferences and experiences. Anything you can tell me will be appreciated.  
 

[ot_caving] New water heater

[Louise Power]

I have to get a new water heater for my recently purchased home. I'd like to 
know if anyone has experience with the on-demand, no-tank water heaters. If so, 
did you like it, not like it, think it was better than or not as good as a 
traditional water heater. Also, gas or electric? Since I have a gas furnace and 
electric everything else, I have a choice. In the next year or so, I'm going to 
have my kitchen replumbed for a gas stove and then have that extended into the 
living room for gas logs. So, as I said, I have options. 
I know that the purchase price is more expensive than for a traditional water 
heater, but will it save me enough $$$ in the long run to warrant the expense? 
I plan for this to be my last move, so am willing to invest a little to improve 
the house. Avista (the local gas co) will give me a substantial rebate on one 
of the on-demand water heaters. I'm asking you guys because of the variety of 
preferences and experiences. Anything you can tell me will be appreciated.  
 

[ot_caving] New water heater

[Louise Power]

I have to get a new water heater for my recently purchased home. I'd like to 
know if anyone has experience with the on-demand, no-tank water heaters. If so, 
did you like it, not like it, think it was better than or not as good as a 
traditional water heater. Also, gas or electric? Since I have a gas furnace and 
electric everything else, I have a choice. In the next year or so, I'm going to 
have my kitchen replumbed for a gas stove and then have that extended into the 
living room for gas logs. So, as I said, I have options. 
I know that the purchase price is more expensive than for a traditional water 
heater, but will it save me enough $$$ in the long run to warrant the expense? 
I plan for this to be my last move, so am willing to invest a little to improve 
the house. Avista (the local gas co) will give me a substantial rebate on one 
of the on-demand water heaters. I'm asking you guys because of the variety of 
preferences and experiences. Anything you can tell me will be appreciated.  
 

[Texascavers] travels in Mexico

[Nancy Weaver]

Just returned from a 10 day splendid driving trip from Austin to 
Zacatecas.  We had a swift friendly crossing at Laredo, an easy drive 
on the toll road south.  We spent a couple of days in Real de 
Catorce, hiking and hanging out with friends then drove to my 72 yr 
old companion's casita in the mts of Jalisco, between Monte Escobedo 
(controlled by invisible zetas) and Mexquitic (ditto guzmans)  Rumour 
has it that occasionally the road between the two towns is contested 
for ownership;  we saw no sign of that or any other trouble.  Lots of 
great hiking in the mts and barrancas, visited both towns which were 
clean prosperous and friendly, drove all over backroad Mexico, then 
had two delightful days in Ciudad  Zacatecas  - a gorgeous vibrant 
musical traveler filled city.  Mexico is alive and well and wonderful 
as ever.


Nancy

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[Texascavers] travels in Mexico

[Nancy Weaver]

Just returned from a 10 day splendid driving trip from Austin to 
Zacatecas.  We had a swift friendly crossing at Laredo, an easy drive 
on the toll road south.  We spent a couple of days in Real de 
Catorce, hiking and hanging out with friends then drove to my 72 yr 
old companion's casita in the mts of Jalisco, between Monte Escobedo 
(controlled by invisible zetas) and Mexquitic (ditto guzmans)  Rumour 
has it that occasionally the road between the two towns is contested 
for ownership;  we saw no sign of that or any other trouble.  Lots of 
great hiking in the mts and barrancas, visited both towns which were 
clean prosperous and friendly, drove all over backroad Mexico, then 
had two delightful days in Ciudad  Zacatecas  - a gorgeous vibrant 
musical traveler filled city.  Mexico is alive and well and wonderful 
as ever.


Nancy

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[Texascavers] travels in Mexico

[Nancy Weaver]

Just returned from a 10 day splendid driving trip from Austin to 
Zacatecas.  We had a swift friendly crossing at Laredo, an easy drive 
on the toll road south.  We spent a couple of days in Real de 
Catorce, hiking and hanging out with friends then drove to my 72 yr 
old companion's casita in the mts of Jalisco, between Monte Escobedo 
(controlled by invisible zetas) and Mexquitic (ditto guzmans)  Rumour 
has it that occasionally the road between the two towns is contested 
for ownership;  we saw no sign of that or any other trouble.  Lots of 
great hiking in the mts and barrancas, visited both towns which were 
clean prosperous and friendly, drove all over backroad Mexico, then 
had two delightful days in Ciudad  Zacatecas  - a gorgeous vibrant 
musical traveler filled city.  Mexico is alive and well and wonderful 
as ever.


Nancy

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Re: [Texascavers] Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water

[Logan McNatt]

Mark, thanks, but hypothermia is not one of our big concerns in Texas.  I've heard that tanning salons are being converted to hypothermic 
saloons.  (no, that's not a typo)


On 8/10/2012 10:00 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

This is also useful info for cavers, concerning hypothermia: 
.

Mark

At 12:39 PM 8/9/2012, germa...@aol.com wrote:

On some level, this could be cave(r)-related

http://water.epa.gov/drink/emerprep/emergencydisinfection.cfm?072112

- julia


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Re: [Texascavers] Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water

[Logan McNatt]

Mark, thanks, but hypothermia is not one of our big concerns in Texas.  I've heard that tanning salons are being converted to hypothermic 
saloons.  (no, that's not a typo)


On 8/10/2012 10:00 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

This is also useful info for cavers, concerning hypothermia: 
.

Mark

At 12:39 PM 8/9/2012, germa...@aol.com wrote:

On some level, this could be cave(r)-related

http://water.epa.gov/drink/emerprep/emergencydisinfection.cfm?072112

- julia


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Re: [Texascavers] Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water

[Logan McNatt]

Mark, thanks, but hypothermia is not one of our big concerns in Texas.  I've heard that tanning salons are being converted to hypothermic 
saloons.  (no, that's not a typo)


On 8/10/2012 10:00 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

This is also useful info for cavers, concerning hypothermia: 
.

Mark

At 12:39 PM 8/9/2012, germa...@aol.com wrote:

On some level, this could be cave(r)-related

http://water.epa.gov/drink/emerprep/emergencydisinfection.cfm?072112

- julia


Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
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Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[George D. Nincehelser]

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-T3-vs-Canon-T3i

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Geary Schindel <
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> wrote:

> So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.
>
> ** **
>
> It’s not clear from the descriptions.
>
> ** **
>
> Geary
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
> *To:* Pete Lindsley
> *Cc:* Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] camera questions
>
> ** **
>
> B&H is good  Amazon is good too. 
>
> ** **
>
> Allan
>
> Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:***
> *
>
> Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices,
> but these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you
> will get your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several
> decades. Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably
> crooks. I am sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your
> friends recommendations.
>
> ** **
>
>  - Pete
>
> ** **
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Pete,
>
>  
>
> Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on
> the web.
>
>  
>
> G
>
> ** **
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[George D. Nincehelser]

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-T3-vs-Canon-T3i

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Geary Schindel <
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> wrote:

> So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.
>
> ** **
>
> It’s not clear from the descriptions.
>
> ** **
>
> Geary
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
> *To:* Pete Lindsley
> *Cc:* Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] camera questions
>
> ** **
>
> B&H is good  Amazon is good too. 
>
> ** **
>
> Allan
>
> Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:***
> *
>
> Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices,
> but these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you
> will get your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several
> decades. Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably
> crooks. I am sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your
> friends recommendations.
>
> ** **
>
>  - Pete
>
> ** **
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Pete,
>
>  
>
> Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on
> the web.
>
>  
>
> G
>
> ** **
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[George D. Nincehelser]

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-T3-vs-Canon-T3i

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Geary Schindel <
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> wrote:

> So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.
>
> ** **
>
> It’s not clear from the descriptions.
>
> ** **
>
> Geary
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
> *To:* Pete Lindsley
> *Cc:* Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] camera questions
>
> ** **
>
> B&H is good  Amazon is good too. 
>
> ** **
>
> Allan
>
> Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:***
> *
>
> Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices,
> but these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you
> will get your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several
> decades. Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably
> crooks. I am sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your
> friends recommendations.
>
> ** **
>
>  - Pete
>
> ** **
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Pete,
>
>  
>
> Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on
> the web.
>
>  
>
> G
>
> ** **
>
>

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It’s not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It’s not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

So, what are the advantages of a Canon T3 verses T3i.

It’s not clear from the descriptions.

Geary

From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:24 PM
To: Pete Lindsley
Cc: Geary Schindel; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

B&H is good  Amazon is good too.

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley 
mailto:caverp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
recommendations.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Allan B. Cobb]

B&H is good  Amazon is good too. 

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:

> Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
> these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
> your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
> Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
> sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
> recommendations.
> 
>  - Pete
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
> 
> Pete,
>  
> Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
> web.
>  
> G
> 

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Allan B. Cobb]

B&H is good  Amazon is good too. 

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:

> Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
> these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
> your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
> Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
> sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
> recommendations.
> 
>  - Pete
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
> 
> Pete,
>  
> Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
> web.
>  
> G
> 

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Allan B. Cobb]

B&H is good  Amazon is good too. 

Allan

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:

> Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better prices, but 
> these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it means you will get 
> your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from them for several decades. 
> Almost all the others I have considered were liars, and probably crooks. I am 
> sure there are many other good ones out there, but follow your friends 
> recommendations.
> 
>  - Pete
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
> 
> Pete,
>  
> Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
> web.
>  
> G
> 

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[George D. Nincehelser]

This might be the part you're looking for on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-350D-Rebel-XT-LCD-W-Back-light-Buttons-Digital-Camera-Repair-Part-/320899055921?pt=Digital_Camera_Accessories&hash=item4ab7130131#ht_500wt_1180


The latest Rebel in the family is the 4ti.  You might want to look for
a bargain on the 2ti (which I think is going away) or the 3ti (which is
hanging around for a while).

These newer Rebels are 18MP, which you might find is decent step up.

George


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel <
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> ** **
>
> I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag
> rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD
> screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen
> which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
> repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much
> more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was
> thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have upgraded
> it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts on
> what I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I
> certainly don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still
> like a SLR.
>
> ** **
>
> Geary
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[George D. Nincehelser]

This might be the part you're looking for on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-350D-Rebel-XT-LCD-W-Back-light-Buttons-Digital-Camera-Repair-Part-/320899055921?pt=Digital_Camera_Accessories&hash=item4ab7130131#ht_500wt_1180


The latest Rebel in the family is the 4ti.  You might want to look for
a bargain on the 2ti (which I think is going away) or the 3ti (which is
hanging around for a while).

These newer Rebels are 18MP, which you might find is decent step up.

George


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel <
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> ** **
>
> I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag
> rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD
> screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen
> which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
> repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much
> more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was
> thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have upgraded
> it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts on
> what I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I
> certainly don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still
> like a SLR.
>
> ** **
>
> Geary
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[George D. Nincehelser]

This might be the part you're looking for on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-350D-Rebel-XT-LCD-W-Back-light-Buttons-Digital-Camera-Repair-Part-/320899055921?pt=Digital_Camera_Accessories&hash=item4ab7130131#ht_500wt_1180


The latest Rebel in the family is the 4ti.  You might want to look for
a bargain on the 2ti (which I think is going away) or the 3ti (which is
hanging around for a while).

These newer Rebels are 18MP, which you might find is decent step up.

George


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Geary Schindel <
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> ** **
>
> I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag
> rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD
> screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen
> which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
> repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much
> more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was
> thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have upgraded
> it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts on
> what I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I
> certainly don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still
> like a SLR.
>
> ** **
>
> Geary
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better  
prices, but these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it  
means you will get your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from  
them for several decades. Almost all the others I have considered were  
liars, and probably crooks. I am sure there are many other good ones  
out there, but follow your friends recommendations.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras  
on the web.


G

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better  
prices, but these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it  
means you will get your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from  
them for several decades. Almost all the others I have considered were  
liars, and probably crooks. I am sure there are many other good ones  
out there, but follow your friends recommendations.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras  
on the web.


G

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

Only one. [http://www.bhphotovideo.com/] Others may have better  
prices, but these guys have the stock and when your card is charged it  
means you will get your stuff in a few days. I have been buying from  
them for several decades. Almost all the others I have considered were  
liars, and probably crooks. I am sure there are many other good ones  
out there, but follow your friends recommendations.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras  
on the web.


G

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

No, it's for when someone breaks into your car and steals most of your  
camera gear just before leaving on a photo vacation (to caves) you  
have already paid for.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Lyndon Tiu wrote:

What's the point of insuring the camera under one's homeowner's
policy? So I can get insurance to pay for the repairs next time it
falls out of the car and breaks?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pete Lindsley   
wrote:
Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then  
either buy a
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras,  
my 4-year
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for  
probably

cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an
itemized list attached to your home owners policy.

- Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera  
bag
rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the  
LCD
screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the  
screen

which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how  
much
more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I  
was
thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have  
upgraded
it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts  
on what
I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I  
certainly
don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still like a  
SLR.


Geary








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Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

No, it's for when someone breaks into your car and steals most of your  
camera gear just before leaving on a photo vacation (to caves) you  
have already paid for.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Lyndon Tiu wrote:

What's the point of insuring the camera under one's homeowner's
policy? So I can get insurance to pay for the repairs next time it
falls out of the car and breaks?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pete Lindsley   
wrote:
Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then  
either buy a
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras,  
my 4-year
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for  
probably

cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an
itemized list attached to your home owners policy.

- Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera  
bag
rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the  
LCD
screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the  
screen

which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how  
much
more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I  
was
thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have  
upgraded
it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts  
on what
I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I  
certainly
don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still like a  
SLR.


Geary








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Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

No, it's for when someone breaks into your car and steals most of your  
camera gear just before leaving on a photo vacation (to caves) you  
have already paid for.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Lyndon Tiu wrote:

What's the point of insuring the camera under one's homeowner's
policy? So I can get insurance to pay for the repairs next time it
falls out of the car and breaks?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pete Lindsley   
wrote:
Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then  
either buy a
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras,  
my 4-year
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for  
probably

cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an
itemized list attached to your home owners policy.

- Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera  
bag
rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the  
LCD
screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the  
screen

which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how  
much
more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I  
was
thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have  
upgraded
it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts  
on what
I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I  
certainly
don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still like a  
SLR.


Geary








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Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Lyndon Tiu]

What's the point of insuring the camera under one's homeowner's
policy? So I can get insurance to pay for the repairs next time it
falls out of the car and breaks?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:
> Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a
> better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year
> old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably
> cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an
> itemized list attached to your home owners policy.
>
>  - Pete
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag
> rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD
> screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen
> which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
> repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much
> more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was
> thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have upgraded
> it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts on what
> I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I certainly
> don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still like a SLR.
>
> Geary
>
>
>
>



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Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Lyndon Tiu]

What's the point of insuring the camera under one's homeowner's
policy? So I can get insurance to pay for the repairs next time it
falls out of the car and breaks?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:
> Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a
> better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year
> old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably
> cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an
> itemized list attached to your home owners policy.
>
>  - Pete
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag
> rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD
> screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen
> which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
> repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much
> more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was
> thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have upgraded
> it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts on what
> I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I certainly
> don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still like a SLR.
>
> Geary
>
>
>
>



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Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Lyndon Tiu]

What's the point of insuring the camera under one's homeowner's
policy? So I can get insurance to pay for the repairs next time it
falls out of the car and breaks?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:
> Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a
> better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year
> old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably
> cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an
> itemized list attached to your home owners policy.
>
>  - Pete
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag
> rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD
> screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen
> which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth
> repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much
> more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was
> thinking of just buying the same or similar body.  Seems they have upgraded
> it some and they now use SD cards which would be nice.  Any thoughts on what
> I should do.  It has been a pretty good camera up until now.  I certainly
> don’t need any of the high end professional cameras but still like a SLR.
>
> Geary
>
>
>
>



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RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:24 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a 
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year 
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably 
cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an itemized 
list attached to your home owners policy.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:24 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a 
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year 
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably 
cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an itemized 
list attached to your home owners policy.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

RE: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Pete,

Thanks, have any recommendations on places to buy and not buy cameras on the 
web.

G

From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:24 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either buy a 
better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax cameras, my 4-year 
old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a newer one for probably 
cheaper than the repair, or both, and then insure the cameras under an itemized 
list attached to your home owners policy.

 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:


Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either  
buy a better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax  
cameras, my 4-year old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a  
newer one for probably cheaper than the repair, or both, and then  
insure the cameras under an itemized list attached to your home owners  
policy.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera  
bag rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now  
the LCD screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not  
the screen which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this  
thing worth repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to  
tell me how much more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new  
camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or similar  
body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards  
which would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a  
pretty good camera up until now.  I certainly don’t need any of the  
high end professional cameras but still like a SLR.


Geary

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either  
buy a better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax  
cameras, my 4-year old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a  
newer one for probably cheaper than the repair, or both, and then  
insure the cameras under an itemized list attached to your home owners  
policy.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera  
bag rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now  
the LCD screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not  
the screen which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this  
thing worth repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to  
tell me how much more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new  
camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or similar  
body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards  
which would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a  
pretty good camera up until now.  I certainly don’t need any of the  
high end professional cameras but still like a SLR.


Geary

Re: [Texascavers] camera questions

[Pete Lindsley]

Sounds like it is now a caving camera (if it still works). Then either  
buy a better cave camera (like one of the new waterproof Pentax  
cameras, my 4-year old Pentax is a W-60), or upgrade your Canon to a  
newer one for probably cheaper than the repair, or both, and then  
insure the cameras under an itemized list attached to your home owners  
policy.


 - Pete

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Geary Schindel wrote:

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera  
bag rolled out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now  
the LCD screen doesn’t function (the one with all the camera data, not  
the screen which shows the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this  
thing worth repairing considering there is probably a repair cost to  
tell me how much more it will cost to repair or should I buy a new  
camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or similar  
body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards  
which would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a  
pretty good camera up until now.  I certainly don’t need any of the  
high end professional cameras but still like a SLR.


Geary

texascavers Digest 10 Aug 2012 18:07:35 -0000 Issue 1606

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texascavers Digest 10 Aug 2012 18:07:35 - Issue 1606

Topics (messages 20498 through 20517):

Re: Rechargeable Batteries
20498 by: Bennett Lee
20499 by: George D. Nincehelser
20506 by: Mark Minton
20507 by: Wm Shrewsbury
20508 by: Mark Minton
20509 by: Lyndon Tiu
20515 by: Alex Sproul

NSS awards
20500 by: Jill Orr

Sunday Swim.
20501 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com

Kiwi Sink vs Sunday Swim
20502 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com
20504 by: Gill Edigar
20505 by: vivbone.att.net

Kiwi Sink
20503 by: Gill Edigar

Batteries
20510 by: James Jasek
20512 by: Diana Tomchick
20513 by: Pete Lindsley
20514 by: Diana Tomchick

Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water
20511 by: germanyj.aol.com
20516 by: Mark Minton

camera questions
20517 by: Geary Schindel

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--- Begin Message ---
I obsessively researched batteries a year ago.  Long story short, I
recommend:

 

Battery:  Sanyo Eneloops

Charger:  Maha C801D

 

 

For those interested, here's the long story.

 

Sanyo Eneloops are the defacto-standard in batteries now.  I see them
specifically recommended in different fields and explicitly stated as
the battery used in numerous lighting tests.  I use them almost
exclusively.  Charger is important, too.  Don't skimp on that.

 

 

BATTERIES

There are 4 main types of rechargeable:

 

(1)  NiMH (Nickel-Metal Hydride)

Highest capacity, but self-discharges over time.  Loses 5-10% within
first 24 hours, and 0.5-1% each day thereafter.  I have a bunch of
Energizer Rechargeables.  Like Dale said, they're always dead when I go
to use them.  You basically have to charge them the night before you go
caving.  In camera flash stress test (yes, I know this is for
headlights, but that's the test I was reading in my research and
besides, James does photography, too), these average about 296
full-power flashes.

Examples: Energizer Rechargeable, PowerEx, Sanyo 2700.

 

(2)  LD-NiMH (Low Discharge Nickel-Metal Hydride)

These are a new variation of NiMH that don't self-discharge as rapidly.
They hold 75-80% of their charge after a year.  I've switched to these
(Sanyo Eneloops) almost exclusively in both my headlights and camera
equipment because even if I don't remember to or have time to charge
them, they are ready to go.  These average 235 flashes, 20% less than
regular NiMH, but I'm happy to trade that for the long-term charge.

Examples: Sanyo Eneloop, PowerEx Imedion.

 

(3)  Lithium

Extremely long shelf life.  Wide operating temperatures.  Comparatively
light-weight.  Unfortunately, they're expensive and don't work well in
camera flashes, so I don't use them.  Average 218 flashes.

Examples: Energizer Ultimate Lithium, Energizer Advanced Lithium.

 

(4)  NiCd (Nickel-Cadmium)

Crap.  Not even worth talking about.

 

 

RECHARGER

Don't overlook the importance of a quality charger.  The lesser ones
charge batteries in pairs and stop both as soon as one battery is fully
charged, leaving the other only partially charged.  The best charge each
battery individually.  They also have an optional "soft-charge", which
helps extend your battery life by charging slower (i.e., 2 hours instead
of the typical 1 hour), and they can recondition the batteries if they
are no longer holding their charge well (doesn't work miracles, but
helps).

 

The one I highly recommend is the Maha C801D.  It can charge 8 AA or
AAA, each on their own circuit, plus has the optional soft-charge and
reconditioning mentioned above.  It's a bit expensive (~$65), but I
currently have about 70 AA/AAA rechargeable batteries for my headlights
and photography equipment, so it was worth the investment for me.

 

I've read horror stories of failed recharging like Don's, but I've never
experienced anything like that.  I've recharged hundreds of batteries
totaling well over 1000 recharges on various quality and crappy chargers
and never had a problem.  That's not to say that someday it won't happen
to me, too, but so far I am quite pleased with the switch to
rechargeables (well, pleased with the Sanyo Eneloop rechargeables--those
Energizer Rechargeables drove me and apparently Dale crazy with their
rapid self-discharge).

 

 

One last note, all these rechargeable batteries degrade over time, so
expect a usable life of about 3-5 years.  Furthermore, manufacturing
will affect battery performance and life, so it's best to keep batteries
together in the same set as they were manufactured/purchased.  A tip I
picked up from another photographer is that as soon as I buy batteries,
I label them with the year/month of purchase along with a 2 digit
set/battery code, like 3A.  That way, I can kee

texascavers Digest 10 Aug 2012 18:07:35 -0000 Issue 1606

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texascavers Digest 10 Aug 2012 18:07:35 - Issue 1606

Topics (messages 20498 through 20517):

Re: Rechargeable Batteries
20498 by: Bennett Lee
20499 by: George D. Nincehelser
20506 by: Mark Minton
20507 by: Wm Shrewsbury
20508 by: Mark Minton
20509 by: Lyndon Tiu
20515 by: Alex Sproul

NSS awards
20500 by: Jill Orr

Sunday Swim.
20501 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com

Kiwi Sink vs Sunday Swim
20502 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com
20504 by: Gill Edigar
20505 by: vivbone.att.net

Kiwi Sink
20503 by: Gill Edigar

Batteries
20510 by: James Jasek
20512 by: Diana Tomchick
20513 by: Pete Lindsley
20514 by: Diana Tomchick

Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water
20511 by: germanyj.aol.com
20516 by: Mark Minton

camera questions
20517 by: Geary Schindel

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--
--- Begin Message ---
I obsessively researched batteries a year ago.  Long story short, I
recommend:

 

Battery:  Sanyo Eneloops

Charger:  Maha C801D

 

 

For those interested, here's the long story.

 

Sanyo Eneloops are the defacto-standard in batteries now.  I see them
specifically recommended in different fields and explicitly stated as
the battery used in numerous lighting tests.  I use them almost
exclusively.  Charger is important, too.  Don't skimp on that.

 

 

BATTERIES

There are 4 main types of rechargeable:

 

(1)  NiMH (Nickel-Metal Hydride)

Highest capacity, but self-discharges over time.  Loses 5-10% within
first 24 hours, and 0.5-1% each day thereafter.  I have a bunch of
Energizer Rechargeables.  Like Dale said, they're always dead when I go
to use them.  You basically have to charge them the night before you go
caving.  In camera flash stress test (yes, I know this is for
headlights, but that's the test I was reading in my research and
besides, James does photography, too), these average about 296
full-power flashes.

Examples: Energizer Rechargeable, PowerEx, Sanyo 2700.

 

(2)  LD-NiMH (Low Discharge Nickel-Metal Hydride)

These are a new variation of NiMH that don't self-discharge as rapidly.
They hold 75-80% of their charge after a year.  I've switched to these
(Sanyo Eneloops) almost exclusively in both my headlights and camera
equipment because even if I don't remember to or have time to charge
them, they are ready to go.  These average 235 flashes, 20% less than
regular NiMH, but I'm happy to trade that for the long-term charge.

Examples: Sanyo Eneloop, PowerEx Imedion.

 

(3)  Lithium

Extremely long shelf life.  Wide operating temperatures.  Comparatively
light-weight.  Unfortunately, they're expensive and don't work well in
camera flashes, so I don't use them.  Average 218 flashes.

Examples: Energizer Ultimate Lithium, Energizer Advanced Lithium.

 

(4)  NiCd (Nickel-Cadmium)

Crap.  Not even worth talking about.

 

 

RECHARGER

Don't overlook the importance of a quality charger.  The lesser ones
charge batteries in pairs and stop both as soon as one battery is fully
charged, leaving the other only partially charged.  The best charge each
battery individually.  They also have an optional "soft-charge", which
helps extend your battery life by charging slower (i.e., 2 hours instead
of the typical 1 hour), and they can recondition the batteries if they
are no longer holding their charge well (doesn't work miracles, but
helps).

 

The one I highly recommend is the Maha C801D.  It can charge 8 AA or
AAA, each on their own circuit, plus has the optional soft-charge and
reconditioning mentioned above.  It's a bit expensive (~$65), but I
currently have about 70 AA/AAA rechargeable batteries for my headlights
and photography equipment, so it was worth the investment for me.

 

I've read horror stories of failed recharging like Don's, but I've never
experienced anything like that.  I've recharged hundreds of batteries
totaling well over 1000 recharges on various quality and crappy chargers
and never had a problem.  That's not to say that someday it won't happen
to me, too, but so far I am quite pleased with the switch to
rechargeables (well, pleased with the Sanyo Eneloop rechargeables--those
Energizer Rechargeables drove me and apparently Dale crazy with their
rapid self-discharge).

 

 

One last note, all these rechargeable batteries degrade over time, so
expect a usable life of about 3-5 years.  Furthermore, manufacturing
will affect battery performance and life, so it's best to keep batteries
together in the same set as they were manufactured/purchased.  A tip I
picked up from another photographer is that as soon as I buy batteries,
I label them with the year/month of purchase along with a 2 digit
set/battery code, like 3A.  That way, I can kee

texascavers Digest 10 Aug 2012 18:07:35 -0000 Issue 1606

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texascavers Digest 10 Aug 2012 18:07:35 - Issue 1606

Topics (messages 20498 through 20517):

Re: Rechargeable Batteries
20498 by: Bennett Lee
20499 by: George D. Nincehelser
20506 by: Mark Minton
20507 by: Wm Shrewsbury
20508 by: Mark Minton
20509 by: Lyndon Tiu
20515 by: Alex Sproul

NSS awards
20500 by: Jill Orr

Sunday Swim.
20501 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com

Kiwi Sink vs Sunday Swim
20502 by: pstrickland1.austin.rr.com
20504 by: Gill Edigar
20505 by: vivbone.att.net

Kiwi Sink
20503 by: Gill Edigar

Batteries
20510 by: James Jasek
20512 by: Diana Tomchick
20513 by: Pete Lindsley
20514 by: Diana Tomchick

Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water
20511 by: germanyj.aol.com
20516 by: Mark Minton

camera questions
20517 by: Geary Schindel

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--
--- Begin Message ---
I obsessively researched batteries a year ago.  Long story short, I
recommend:

 

Battery:  Sanyo Eneloops

Charger:  Maha C801D

 

 

For those interested, here's the long story.

 

Sanyo Eneloops are the defacto-standard in batteries now.  I see them
specifically recommended in different fields and explicitly stated as
the battery used in numerous lighting tests.  I use them almost
exclusively.  Charger is important, too.  Don't skimp on that.

 

 

BATTERIES

There are 4 main types of rechargeable:

 

(1)  NiMH (Nickel-Metal Hydride)

Highest capacity, but self-discharges over time.  Loses 5-10% within
first 24 hours, and 0.5-1% each day thereafter.  I have a bunch of
Energizer Rechargeables.  Like Dale said, they're always dead when I go
to use them.  You basically have to charge them the night before you go
caving.  In camera flash stress test (yes, I know this is for
headlights, but that's the test I was reading in my research and
besides, James does photography, too), these average about 296
full-power flashes.

Examples: Energizer Rechargeable, PowerEx, Sanyo 2700.

 

(2)  LD-NiMH (Low Discharge Nickel-Metal Hydride)

These are a new variation of NiMH that don't self-discharge as rapidly.
They hold 75-80% of their charge after a year.  I've switched to these
(Sanyo Eneloops) almost exclusively in both my headlights and camera
equipment because even if I don't remember to or have time to charge
them, they are ready to go.  These average 235 flashes, 20% less than
regular NiMH, but I'm happy to trade that for the long-term charge.

Examples: Sanyo Eneloop, PowerEx Imedion.

 

(3)  Lithium

Extremely long shelf life.  Wide operating temperatures.  Comparatively
light-weight.  Unfortunately, they're expensive and don't work well in
camera flashes, so I don't use them.  Average 218 flashes.

Examples: Energizer Ultimate Lithium, Energizer Advanced Lithium.

 

(4)  NiCd (Nickel-Cadmium)

Crap.  Not even worth talking about.

 

 

RECHARGER

Don't overlook the importance of a quality charger.  The lesser ones
charge batteries in pairs and stop both as soon as one battery is fully
charged, leaving the other only partially charged.  The best charge each
battery individually.  They also have an optional "soft-charge", which
helps extend your battery life by charging slower (i.e., 2 hours instead
of the typical 1 hour), and they can recondition the batteries if they
are no longer holding their charge well (doesn't work miracles, but
helps).

 

The one I highly recommend is the Maha C801D.  It can charge 8 AA or
AAA, each on their own circuit, plus has the optional soft-charge and
reconditioning mentioned above.  It's a bit expensive (~$65), but I
currently have about 70 AA/AAA rechargeable batteries for my headlights
and photography equipment, so it was worth the investment for me.

 

I've read horror stories of failed recharging like Don's, but I've never
experienced anything like that.  I've recharged hundreds of batteries
totaling well over 1000 recharges on various quality and crappy chargers
and never had a problem.  That's not to say that someday it won't happen
to me, too, but so far I am quite pleased with the switch to
rechargeables (well, pleased with the Sanyo Eneloop rechargeables--those
Energizer Rechargeables drove me and apparently Dale crazy with their
rapid self-discharge).

 

 

One last note, all these rechargeable batteries degrade over time, so
expect a usable life of about 3-5 years.  Furthermore, manufacturing
will affect battery performance and life, so it's best to keep batteries
together in the same set as they were manufactured/purchased.  A tip I
picked up from another photographer is that as soon as I buy batteries,
I label them with the year/month of purchase along with a 2 digit
set/battery code, like 3A.  That way, I can kee

[Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

[Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

[Texascavers] camera questions

[Geary Schindel]

Folks,

I have (had) a Canon EOS Rebel XT digital (8 mg) camera.  The camera bag rolled 
out of the car and fell on its head at convention and now the LCD screen 
doesn't function (the one with all the camera data, not the screen which shows 
the picture).  Lens works fine. So, is this thing worth repairing considering 
there is probably a repair cost to tell me how much more it will cost to repair 
or should I buy a new camera.  If so, I was thinking of just buying the same or 
similar body.  Seems they have upgraded it some and they now use SD cards which 
would be nice.  Any thoughts on what I should do.  It has been a pretty good 
camera up until now.  I certainly don't need any of the high end professional 
cameras but still like a SLR.

Geary

Re: [Texascavers] Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water

[Mark Minton]

This is also useful info for cavers, concerning 
hypothermia:  .


Mark

At 12:39 PM 8/9/2012, germa...@aol.com wrote:

On some level, this could be cave(r)-related

http://water.epa.gov/drink/emerprep/emergencydisinfection.cfm?072112

- julia


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Re: [Texascavers] Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water

[Mark Minton]

This is also useful info for cavers, concerning 
hypothermia:  .


Mark

At 12:39 PM 8/9/2012, germa...@aol.com wrote:

On some level, this could be cave(r)-related

http://water.epa.gov/drink/emerprep/emergencydisinfection.cfm?072112

- julia


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Re: [Texascavers] Emergency Disinfection of Drinking Water

[Mark Minton]

This is also useful info for cavers, concerning 
hypothermia:  .


Mark

At 12:39 PM 8/9/2012, germa...@aol.com wrote:

On some level, this could be cave(r)-related

http://water.epa.gov/drink/emerprep/emergencydisinfection.cfm?072112

- julia


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