[Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread Speleosteele
Good morning, Texas cavers,
 
Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the  
next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each  
grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto "goin-ons". I just  
dashed out the two paragraphs below about my grotto. Please, would the  
chairperson of each grotto, or someone delegated by the chairperson or who just 
 
wants to do it, send me a couple of paragraphs about their grotto? I'd really  
like to get these by next Sunday. I'm leaving for a caving expedition to 
China  on Dec. 16 and have a lot to get ready. 
 
DFW Grotto
 
The Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto is about 52 years old. It meets once a  month 
at the Dallas REI on the fourth Wednesday night of the month. The  meetings 
last two hours with an hour of it being business, announcements, trip  
reports, and upcoming caving trips, and an hour devoted to a presentation,  
almost always a narrated slide show. After the meeting most people go to a  
nearby Taco Cabana restaurant for fellowship and talk of caving past and 
future. 
 
Members of the DFW Grotto are conducting a project to thoroughly explore  
and map Spring Creek Cave, Kendall Co., Texas, one of the dozen longest caves 
in  the state. Its members go caving in a multitude of places such  as 
Texas, Arkansas, New Mexico, Arkansas, TAG, Kentucky, Mexico, China,  etc. The 
current grotto chair is Steve Webb, with the chair-elect  being Natasha 
Glasgow. Besides Steve Webb as chair in 2012, the vice  chairperson (in charge 
of 
grotto programs) was Natasha Glasgow, secretary  Charles Goldsmith, and 
treasurer Diana Tomchick. Other incoming officers are Jay  Jordan - vice 
chairperson, Jake McLeod - secretary, and Diana Tomchick will  remain as 
treasurer. 
 
Thanks for your help with this.
 
Cavingly yours,
 
Bill Steele 
 
PS - Editor Jill Orr is looking for someone with each grotto to "ride herd" 
 on grotto members to get articles
written and sent to her. I'm going to do so for the DFW Grotto. Jake  
McLeod, if you read this, know that I'm going to ask you to write one about  
becoming a caver in Texas. You sure have done that over the past six months. 

[Cowtown] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread R D Milhollin



- Forwarded Message -
From: "speleoste...@aol.com" 
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:01 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver 
newsletter
 

Good morning, Texas cavers,
 
Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the 
next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each 
grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto "goin-ons". I just 
dashed out the two paragraphs below about my grotto. Please, would the 
chairperson of each grotto, or someone delegated by the chairperson or who just 
wants to do it, send me a couple of paragraphs about their grotto? I'd really 
like to get these by next Sunday. I'm leaving for a caving expedition to China 
on Dec. 16 and have a lot to get ready. 
 
DFW Grotto
 
The Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto is about 52 years old. It meets once a 
month at the Dallas REI on the fourth Wednesday night of the month. The 
meetings last two hours with an hour of it being business, announcements, trip 
reports, and upcoming caving trips, and an hour devoted to a presentation, 
almost always a narrated slide show. After the meeting most people go to a 
nearby Taco Cabana restaurant for fellowship and talk of caving past and 
future. 
 
Members of the DFW Grotto are conducting a project to thoroughly explore 
and map Spring Creek Cave, Kendall Co., Texas, one of the dozen longest caves 
in 
the state. Its members go caving in a multitude of places such 
as Texas, Arkansas, New Mexico, Arkansas, TAG, Kentucky, Mexico, China, 
etc. The current grotto chair is Steve Webb, with the chair-elect 
being Natasha Glasgow. Besides Steve Webb as chair in 2012, the vice 
chairperson (in charge of grotto programs) was Natasha Glasgow, secretary 
Charles Goldsmith, and treasurer Diana Tomchick. Other incoming officers are 
Jay 
Jordan - vice chairperson, Jake McLeod - secretary, and Diana Tomchick will 
remain as treasurer. 
 
Thanks for your help with this.
 
Cavingly yours,
 
Bill Steele 
 
PS - Editor Jill Orr is looking for someone with each grotto to "ride herd" 
on grotto members to get articles
written and sent to her. I'm going to do so for the DFW Grotto. Jake 
McLeod, if you read this, know that I'm going to ask you to write one about 
becoming a caver in Texas. You sure have done that over the past six months. 

[Texascavers] Wake: Call for musicians

2012-12-04 Thread vivbone
Alright, all you musically inclined friends, cavers and associates of Nathan 
out there-  Nathan needs a good lively New Orleans style 2nd line parade at his 
wake. Whose in? No experience necessary. I can have several shakers, 
tambourines, kazoos and what not on hand for those who don't have a trumpet on 
hand, but would like to participate.  
Contact me off list if you can join the tribute. We'll have a rehearsal next 
Wednesday Nov 12, which is an off-grotto Wednesday for UT cavers.
-Vivian Loftin

--- On Mon, 12/3/12, Denise P  wrote:

From: Denise P 
Subject: [Texascavers] Wake
To: "TexasCavers" 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Monday, December 3, 2012, 9:45 PM





Hello-There is a wake for Nathan Parker planned for December 15. It's at 6pm at 
2100 Metcalfe Road in south Austin. Please pass the invite on to everyone. Hope 
to see you there.

 

-Denise
  


[Texascavers] 50 Years of Texas Caving

2012-12-04 Thread Mixon Bill
I have a supply of Carl's 50 Years of Texas Caving book, and I highly  
recommend it. Along with the recent AMCS things, I'll have a few  
copies of 50 Years at the UT Grotto meeting tomorrow night for $40,  
which is a very good price for a 500-page hardbound book full of color  
illustrations.


Books are heavy. It will be nice if some kind soul helps carry what  
isn't sold back to the vicinity of the Posse after the meeting. -- Mixon


A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg.

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[Texascavers] 50 Years of Texas Caving

2012-12-04 Thread Mixon Bill
Here's the review I wrote of the book in 2007. Note that you can now,  
temporarily, get it for  a lower price, as announced here today. --  
Mixon


50 Years of Texas Caving. Carl E. Kunath.  A&K Enterprises, San  
Angelo, Texas; 2007. 8.5 by 11 inches, 526 pages, hardbound. $50.  
(Order from the author at 3720 Ransom Road, San Angelo, Texas 76903.  
Add $5 for U.S. surface shipping.  For other postage, ask carl.kun...@suddenlink.net 
.)


Wow! Five hundred pages. Six hundred illustrations. Two hundred  
thousand words. Nearly five pounds of heavy, coated paper in a hard  
cover. Could this be a fifty-dollar book that is actually worth  
fifty dollars?


This book nominally covers the period from 1951 through 2000, but  
there are some notes from earlier years, and some data from later  
years appear in tables and elsewhere, including a short epilog. The  
main chronological section contains year-by-year summaries of two or  
three pages each. Then there are capsule histories of the sixty-nine  
Texas caving groups that have existed over the years. Next is a  
Serious Side  section covering things like cave science and  
conservation, Texas cavers' work in Mexico and New Mexico, cave  
diving, and accidents and fatalities. A Lighter Side section  
describes famous parties and recounts humorous tales about things  
like vehicular misadventures. Finally there is a long section with  
histories of Texas's ten greatest caves and one cave in Mexico with  
which Texas cavers have been heavily involved, especially in  
restoration.


The book is to some extent organized around the history of the Texas  
Region of the NSS, now called the Texas Speleological Association.  
The amount of research is impressive, with information from the  
Texas Caver, the archives of the TSA and the Texas Speleological  
Survey, and many interviews and other sources. Jerry Atkinson wrote  
a lot of the groups section, and some others contributed portions of  
the book, notably in the science chapters. Interesting old letters  
are quoted or reproduced.


The illustrations include about 375 photos, two-thirds of them in  
color. The colors in some of the older photos look a bit faded, but  
generally the photographs are well printed. A wide net was cast for  
photos, and we see such things as a yearbook photo of the 1958  
members of the Kerrville Speleological Society at the Schreiner  
Institute (now Schreiner University, where the International  
Congress of Speleology will be held in 2009). Especially noteworthy  
are photographs in the greatest caves section, many by the author.  
There are cartoons scattered throughout, and the other drawings,  
many in color, include things like posters and newsletter covers. A  
few of the photos and cartoons have been childishly censored, even  
to the extent of digitally amputating a middle finger that would  
have been a whole eighth of an inch long on the page.


I had read snatches of the book as I was doing the final page layout  
following the author's specifications. Before writing this review, I  
borrowed a set of unbound press proofs while the finished books were  
on their way from China, thinking that I really ought to read some  
more of it before I wrote a review. I ended up reading the whole  
thing straight through. In doing so, I noticed a few redundancies,  
but this might actually be a good thing, because I imagine most  
readers will skip around in the book, picking out the parts most  
interesting to them and, perhaps, never quite getting around to the  
history of the Central Catholic High School Grotto (1972–1973).  
While, inevitably, I could quibble with the punctuation here and  
there, the grammar is exceptional, and everything reads smoothly. I  
noticed one clearly typographical error in the whole book. (I  
believe Jerry Atkinson deserves much credit for proofreading, too.)  
In these respects, this book must be in the top percent or so of  
cave books.


Carl Kunath is a bit of a curmudgeon, and it doesn't take a very  
close reading to see that he thinks Texas caving, and the Texas  
Speleological Association in particular, have gone all to hell since  
the good old days. To some extent, he is justified. Certainly there  
haven't been any recent discoveries like Caverns of Sonora or  
Natural Bridge Caverns, which became two of the country's top show  
caves. The main responsibilities of the TSA, the Texas Caver and the  
annual spring conventions, have been hit or miss. He doesn’t give  
much credit for the more popular, if unofficial, Texas Caver  
Reunions that have been held faithfully for the past thirty years.  
The book seems to be best about the earlier times, when Kunath was  
himself more involved and knew most of the smaller number of active  
cavers. Of course, the older days will be most interesting to the  
reader, too, because they are less familiar to most of us. Kunath  
also tends to assess the quality of grottos based on their esprit de  

[Texascavers] Re: 50 Years of Texas Caving special offer

2012-12-04 Thread Logan McNatt
Carl Kunath's special offer of $40 for his book 50 Years of Texas Caving is a great deal that would make a long-lasting Christmas present for 
your caver friends and/or yourself.


As a bonus, anyone who orders the book can receive a free set of all available print copies of  The Texas Caver magazine from 1970-1999 (approx. 
100 back issues still in print). The set weighs approx. 5 lbs and takes up about 12 inches of shelf space. _If requested_, one set will be 
shipped free (in U.S.) for each book ordered. Contact me for further details.


Logan McNatt
512-462-9581
Austin, TX  78745


[Texascavers] Ezell's Cave clean up

2012-12-04 Thread Ron Ralph
Cavers,

 

A reminder that we need your help!  The Texas Cave Management Association
(TCMA) will be having a work day to spruce up one of our properties, the
Ezells Cave Preserve in Hays County.  We plan to prune limbs, cut weeds,
haul off junk, and just generally make the property more attractive.  We
need people, saws, loppers, weed eaters, gloves, and maybe even someone with
a trailer willing to carry all the debris to the landfill.  Bring your own
drinks and snacks for the work, but TCMA will treat all volunteers to pizza
and drinks after we are done.

 

The date is Saturday, December 8, 2012.  The time to meet is 9:00 am.  Meet
at the 1500 block of Brown Street, San Marcos. Cell number for the day:
512-797-3817 (Ron Ralph).

 

If anyone wishes to enter the cave after the work is completed, the Preserve
Manager has agreed to that.  All visitors to the Preserve will be asked to
sign a liability waiver. Please give Ron a call if you get lost or would
like more details.

 

Thanks for your support!

 

Directions to Ezell's Cave Preserve

Roughly 1500 Brown Street

 

If coming in on IH 35 from the north or south, take exit 202 (Wonder World)
and turn west passing the Valero and over the railroad tracks.

 

At the traffic light, turn right on Hunter Road or FM 2439 (north), then
left on Dixon (across from Jack's Road House), then jog right on Blevin and
go past the Habitat for Humanity houses that back up to TCMA property.

 

Turn left at the next street (Clara) and left again at the next intersection
(Brown).

 

Ezell's Cave Preserve is the first jungle on the left.

 



[Texascavers] FW: Interdisciplinary-Hydrologist/Soil Scientist Medford Program Lead

2012-12-04 Thread Louise Power

If we have any interdisciplinary-hydrologist/soil scientists looking for a 
permanent/full-time job (a rare commodity at this time in the federal gov't), 
here's an opportunity. Good pay and benefits; beautiful and historical part of 
the country; lotsa places for all kinds of outdoor activities including hiking 
the Pacific Crest Trail; rafting the Wild & Scenic Rogue and other nearby 
rivers; and yes, we have caves and active grottos. And the beaches are just a 
few hours away through the Coast Range. Also, bird watching; hunting (birds, 
elk, deer, etc); fishing, snow skiing, etc. We also have active art and theatre 
communities. 
 
COME ONE, COME ALL!




The following  vacancy can be found on USA Jobs after the opening date below.
 
OR Merit-2012-0048
 
Interdisciplinary-Hydrologist/Soil Scientist 
GS-1315/0470-12
Bureau of Land Management, Medford, OR District
Permanent / Full-time
Open:  Tuesday, December 4 2012
Close:  Monday, December 17, 2012 
  

[Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread Speleosteele
Good morning, Texas cavers,
 
Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the  
next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each  
grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto "goin-ons". I just  
dashed out the two paragraphs below about my grotto. Please, would the  
chairperson of each grotto, or someone delegated by the chairperson or who just 
 
wants to do it, send me a couple of paragraphs about their grotto? I'd really  
like to get these by next Sunday. I'm leaving for a caving expedition to 
China  on Dec. 16 and have a lot to get ready. 
 
DFW Grotto
 
The Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto is about 52 years old. It meets once a  month 
at the Dallas REI on the fourth Wednesday night of the month. The  meetings 
last two hours with an hour of it being business, announcements, trip  
reports, and upcoming caving trips, and an hour devoted to a presentation,  
almost always a narrated slide show. After the meeting most people go to a  
nearby Taco Cabana restaurant for fellowship and talk of caving past and 
future. 
 
Members of the DFW Grotto are conducting a project to thoroughly explore  
and map Spring Creek Cave, Kendall Co., Texas, one of the dozen longest caves 
in  the state. Its members go caving in a multitude of places such  as 
Texas, Arkansas, New Mexico, Arkansas, TAG, Kentucky, Mexico, China,  etc. The 
current grotto chair is Steve Webb, with the chair-elect  being Natasha 
Glasgow. Besides Steve Webb as chair in 2012, the vice  chairperson (in charge 
of 
grotto programs) was Natasha Glasgow, secretary  Charles Goldsmith, and 
treasurer Diana Tomchick. Other incoming officers are Jay  Jordan - vice 
chairperson, Jake McLeod - secretary, and Diana Tomchick will  remain as 
treasurer. 
 
Thanks for your help with this.
 
Cavingly yours,
 
Bill Steele 
 
PS - Editor Jill Orr is looking for someone with each grotto to "ride herd" 
 on grotto members to get articles
written and sent to her. I'm going to do so for the DFW Grotto. Jake  
McLeod, if you read this, know that I'm going to ask you to write one about  
becoming a caver in Texas. You sure have done that over the past six months. 

[Cowtown] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread R D Milhollin



- Forwarded Message -
From: "speleoste...@aol.com" 
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:01 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver 
newsletter
 

Good morning, Texas cavers,
 
Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the 
next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each 
grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto "goin-ons". I just 
dashed out the two paragraphs below about my grotto. Please, would the 
chairperson of each grotto, or someone delegated by the chairperson or who just 
wants to do it, send me a couple of paragraphs about their grotto? I'd really 
like to get these by next Sunday. I'm leaving for a caving expedition to China 
on Dec. 16 and have a lot to get ready. 
 
DFW Grotto
 
The Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto is about 52 years old. It meets once a 
month at the Dallas REI on the fourth Wednesday night of the month. The 
meetings last two hours with an hour of it being business, announcements, trip 
reports, and upcoming caving trips, and an hour devoted to a presentation, 
almost always a narrated slide show. After the meeting most people go to a 
nearby Taco Cabana restaurant for fellowship and talk of caving past and 
future. 
 
Members of the DFW Grotto are conducting a project to thoroughly explore 
and map Spring Creek Cave, Kendall Co., Texas, one of the dozen longest caves 
in 
the state. Its members go caving in a multitude of places such 
as Texas, Arkansas, New Mexico, Arkansas, TAG, Kentucky, Mexico, China, 
etc. The current grotto chair is Steve Webb, with the chair-elect 
being Natasha Glasgow. Besides Steve Webb as chair in 2012, the vice 
chairperson (in charge of grotto programs) was Natasha Glasgow, secretary 
Charles Goldsmith, and treasurer Diana Tomchick. Other incoming officers are 
Jay 
Jordan - vice chairperson, Jake McLeod - secretary, and Diana Tomchick will 
remain as treasurer. 
 
Thanks for your help with this.
 
Cavingly yours,
 
Bill Steele 
 
PS - Editor Jill Orr is looking for someone with each grotto to "ride herd" 
on grotto members to get articles
written and sent to her. I'm going to do so for the DFW Grotto. Jake 
McLeod, if you read this, know that I'm going to ask you to write one about 
becoming a caver in Texas. You sure have done that over the past six months. 

[Texascavers] Wake: Call for musicians

2012-12-04 Thread vivbone
Alright, all you musically inclined friends, cavers and associates of Nathan 
out there-  Nathan needs a good lively New Orleans style 2nd line parade at his 
wake. Whose in? No experience necessary. I can have several shakers, 
tambourines, kazoos and what not on hand for those who don't have a trumpet on 
hand, but would like to participate.  
Contact me off list if you can join the tribute. We'll have a rehearsal next 
Wednesday Nov 12, which is an off-grotto Wednesday for UT cavers.
-Vivian Loftin

--- On Mon, 12/3/12, Denise P  wrote:

From: Denise P 
Subject: [Texascavers] Wake
To: "TexasCavers" 
Date: Monday, December 3, 2012, 9:45 PM





Hello-There is a wake for Nathan Parker planned for December 15. It's at 6pm at 
2100 Metcalfe Road in south Austin. Please pass the invite on to everyone. Hope 
to see you there.

 

-Denise
  


[Texascavers] 50 Years of Texas Caving

2012-12-04 Thread Mixon Bill
I have a supply of Carl's 50 Years of Texas Caving book, and I highly  
recommend it. Along with the recent AMCS things, I'll have a few  
copies of 50 Years at the UT Grotto meeting tomorrow night for $40,  
which is a very good price for a 500-page hardbound book full of color  
illustrations.


Books are heavy. It will be nice if some kind soul helps carry what  
isn't sold back to the vicinity of the Posse after the meeting. -- Mixon


A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg.

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came from, but for long-term use, save:
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[Texascavers] 50 Years of Texas Caving

2012-12-04 Thread Mixon Bill
Here's the review I wrote of the book in 2007. Note that you can now,  
temporarily, get it for  a lower price, as announced here today. --  
Mixon


50 Years of Texas Caving. Carl E. Kunath.  A&K Enterprises, San  
Angelo, Texas; 2007. 8.5 by 11 inches, 526 pages, hardbound. $50.  
(Order from the author at 3720 Ransom Road, San Angelo, Texas 76903.  
Add $5 for U.S. surface shipping.  For other postage, ask carl.kun...@suddenlink.net 
.)


Wow! Five hundred pages. Six hundred illustrations. Two hundred  
thousand words. Nearly five pounds of heavy, coated paper in a hard  
cover. Could this be a fifty-dollar book that is actually worth  
fifty dollars?


This book nominally covers the period from 1951 through 2000, but  
there are some notes from earlier years, and some data from later  
years appear in tables and elsewhere, including a short epilog. The  
main chronological section contains year-by-year summaries of two or  
three pages each. Then there are capsule histories of the sixty-nine  
Texas caving groups that have existed over the years. Next is a  
Serious Side  section covering things like cave science and  
conservation, Texas cavers' work in Mexico and New Mexico, cave  
diving, and accidents and fatalities. A Lighter Side section  
describes famous parties and recounts humorous tales about things  
like vehicular misadventures. Finally there is a long section with  
histories of Texas's ten greatest caves and one cave in Mexico with  
which Texas cavers have been heavily involved, especially in  
restoration.


The book is to some extent organized around the history of the Texas  
Region of the NSS, now called the Texas Speleological Association.  
The amount of research is impressive, with information from the  
Texas Caver, the archives of the TSA and the Texas Speleological  
Survey, and many interviews and other sources. Jerry Atkinson wrote  
a lot of the groups section, and some others contributed portions of  
the book, notably in the science chapters. Interesting old letters  
are quoted or reproduced.


The illustrations include about 375 photos, two-thirds of them in  
color. The colors in some of the older photos look a bit faded, but  
generally the photographs are well printed. A wide net was cast for  
photos, and we see such things as a yearbook photo of the 1958  
members of the Kerrville Speleological Society at the Schreiner  
Institute (now Schreiner University, where the International  
Congress of Speleology will be held in 2009). Especially noteworthy  
are photographs in the greatest caves section, many by the author.  
There are cartoons scattered throughout, and the other drawings,  
many in color, include things like posters and newsletter covers. A  
few of the photos and cartoons have been childishly censored, even  
to the extent of digitally amputating a middle finger that would  
have been a whole eighth of an inch long on the page.


I had read snatches of the book as I was doing the final page layout  
following the author's specifications. Before writing this review, I  
borrowed a set of unbound press proofs while the finished books were  
on their way from China, thinking that I really ought to read some  
more of it before I wrote a review. I ended up reading the whole  
thing straight through. In doing so, I noticed a few redundancies,  
but this might actually be a good thing, because I imagine most  
readers will skip around in the book, picking out the parts most  
interesting to them and, perhaps, never quite getting around to the  
history of the Central Catholic High School Grotto (1972–1973).  
While, inevitably, I could quibble with the punctuation here and  
there, the grammar is exceptional, and everything reads smoothly. I  
noticed one clearly typographical error in the whole book. (I  
believe Jerry Atkinson deserves much credit for proofreading, too.)  
In these respects, this book must be in the top percent or so of  
cave books.


Carl Kunath is a bit of a curmudgeon, and it doesn't take a very  
close reading to see that he thinks Texas caving, and the Texas  
Speleological Association in particular, have gone all to hell since  
the good old days. To some extent, he is justified. Certainly there  
haven't been any recent discoveries like Caverns of Sonora or  
Natural Bridge Caverns, which became two of the country's top show  
caves. The main responsibilities of the TSA, the Texas Caver and the  
annual spring conventions, have been hit or miss. He doesn’t give  
much credit for the more popular, if unofficial, Texas Caver  
Reunions that have been held faithfully for the past thirty years.  
The book seems to be best about the earlier times, when Kunath was  
himself more involved and knew most of the smaller number of active  
cavers. Of course, the older days will be most interesting to the  
reader, too, because they are less familiar to most of us. Kunath  
also tends to assess the quality of grottos based on their esprit de  

[Texascavers] Re: 50 Years of Texas Caving special offer

2012-12-04 Thread Logan McNatt
Carl Kunath's special offer of $40 for his book 50 Years of Texas Caving is a great deal that would make a long-lasting Christmas present for 
your caver friends and/or yourself.


As a bonus, anyone who orders the book can receive a free set of all available print copies of  The Texas Caver magazine from 1970-1999 (approx. 
100 back issues still in print). The set weighs approx. 5 lbs and takes up about 12 inches of shelf space. _If requested_, one set will be 
shipped free (in U.S.) for each book ordered. Contact me for further details.


Logan McNatt
512-462-9581
Austin, TX  78745


[Texascavers] Ezell's Cave clean up

2012-12-04 Thread Ron Ralph
Cavers,

 

A reminder that we need your help!  The Texas Cave Management Association
(TCMA) will be having a work day to spruce up one of our properties, the
Ezells Cave Preserve in Hays County.  We plan to prune limbs, cut weeds,
haul off junk, and just generally make the property more attractive.  We
need people, saws, loppers, weed eaters, gloves, and maybe even someone with
a trailer willing to carry all the debris to the landfill.  Bring your own
drinks and snacks for the work, but TCMA will treat all volunteers to pizza
and drinks after we are done.

 

The date is Saturday, December 8, 2012.  The time to meet is 9:00 am.  Meet
at the 1500 block of Brown Street, San Marcos. Cell number for the day:
512-797-3817 (Ron Ralph).

 

If anyone wishes to enter the cave after the work is completed, the Preserve
Manager has agreed to that.  All visitors to the Preserve will be asked to
sign a liability waiver. Please give Ron a call if you get lost or would
like more details.

 

Thanks for your support!

 

Directions to Ezell's Cave Preserve

Roughly 1500 Brown Street

 

If coming in on IH 35 from the north or south, take exit 202 (Wonder World)
and turn west passing the Valero and over the railroad tracks.

 

At the traffic light, turn right on Hunter Road or FM 2439 (north), then
left on Dixon (across from Jack's Road House), then jog right on Blevin and
go past the Habitat for Humanity houses that back up to TCMA property.

 

Turn left at the next street (Clara) and left again at the next intersection
(Brown).

 

Ezell's Cave Preserve is the first jungle on the left.

 



[Texascavers] FW: Interdisciplinary-Hydrologist/Soil Scientist Medford Program Lead

2012-12-04 Thread Louise Power

If we have any interdisciplinary-hydrologist/soil scientists looking for a 
permanent/full-time job (a rare commodity at this time in the federal gov't), 
here's an opportunity. Good pay and benefits; beautiful and historical part of 
the country; lotsa places for all kinds of outdoor activities including hiking 
the Pacific Crest Trail; rafting the Wild & Scenic Rogue and other nearby 
rivers; and yes, we have caves and active grottos. And the beaches are just a 
few hours away through the Coast Range. Also, bird watching; hunting (birds, 
elk, deer, etc); fishing, snow skiing, etc. We also have active art and theatre 
communities. 
 
COME ONE, COME ALL!




The following  vacancy can be found on USA Jobs after the opening date below.
 
OR Merit-2012-0048
 
Interdisciplinary-Hydrologist/Soil Scientist 
GS-1315/0470-12
Bureau of Land Management, Medford, OR District
Permanent / Full-time
Open:  Tuesday, December 4 2012
Close:  Monday, December 17, 2012 
  

[Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread Speleosteele
Good morning, Texas cavers,
 
Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the  
next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each  
grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto "goin-ons". I just  
dashed out the two paragraphs below about my grotto. Please, would the  
chairperson of each grotto, or someone delegated by the chairperson or who just 
 
wants to do it, send me a couple of paragraphs about their grotto? I'd really  
like to get these by next Sunday. I'm leaving for a caving expedition to 
China  on Dec. 16 and have a lot to get ready. 
 
DFW Grotto
 
The Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto is about 52 years old. It meets once a  month 
at the Dallas REI on the fourth Wednesday night of the month. The  meetings 
last two hours with an hour of it being business, announcements, trip  
reports, and upcoming caving trips, and an hour devoted to a presentation,  
almost always a narrated slide show. After the meeting most people go to a  
nearby Taco Cabana restaurant for fellowship and talk of caving past and 
future. 
 
Members of the DFW Grotto are conducting a project to thoroughly explore  
and map Spring Creek Cave, Kendall Co., Texas, one of the dozen longest caves 
in  the state. Its members go caving in a multitude of places such  as 
Texas, Arkansas, New Mexico, Arkansas, TAG, Kentucky, Mexico, China,  etc. The 
current grotto chair is Steve Webb, with the chair-elect  being Natasha 
Glasgow. Besides Steve Webb as chair in 2012, the vice  chairperson (in charge 
of 
grotto programs) was Natasha Glasgow, secretary  Charles Goldsmith, and 
treasurer Diana Tomchick. Other incoming officers are Jay  Jordan - vice 
chairperson, Jake McLeod - secretary, and Diana Tomchick will  remain as 
treasurer. 
 
Thanks for your help with this.
 
Cavingly yours,
 
Bill Steele 
 
PS - Editor Jill Orr is looking for someone with each grotto to "ride herd" 
 on grotto members to get articles
written and sent to her. I'm going to do so for the DFW Grotto. Jake  
McLeod, if you read this, know that I'm going to ask you to write one about  
becoming a caver in Texas. You sure have done that over the past six months. 

[Cowtown] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver newsletter

2012-12-04 Thread R D Milhollin



- Forwarded Message -
From: "speleoste...@aol.com" 
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:01 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Seeking Texas grotto information for the Texas Caver 
newsletter
 

Good morning, Texas cavers,
 
Our new editor of the Texas Caver, Jill Orr, is seeking material for the 
next issue. I have volunteered to seek a couple of paragraphs from each 
grotto in Texas and have a regular column about grotto "goin-ons". I just 
dashed out the two paragraphs below about my grotto. Please, would the 
chairperson of each grotto, or someone delegated by the chairperson or who just 
wants to do it, send me a couple of paragraphs about their grotto? I'd really 
like to get these by next Sunday. I'm leaving for a caving expedition to China 
on Dec. 16 and have a lot to get ready. 
 
DFW Grotto
 
The Dallas-Fort Worth Grotto is about 52 years old. It meets once a 
month at the Dallas REI on the fourth Wednesday night of the month. The 
meetings last two hours with an hour of it being business, announcements, trip 
reports, and upcoming caving trips, and an hour devoted to a presentation, 
almost always a narrated slide show. After the meeting most people go to a 
nearby Taco Cabana restaurant for fellowship and talk of caving past and 
future. 
 
Members of the DFW Grotto are conducting a project to thoroughly explore 
and map Spring Creek Cave, Kendall Co., Texas, one of the dozen longest caves 
in 
the state. Its members go caving in a multitude of places such 
as Texas, Arkansas, New Mexico, Arkansas, TAG, Kentucky, Mexico, China, 
etc. The current grotto chair is Steve Webb, with the chair-elect 
being Natasha Glasgow. Besides Steve Webb as chair in 2012, the vice 
chairperson (in charge of grotto programs) was Natasha Glasgow, secretary 
Charles Goldsmith, and treasurer Diana Tomchick. Other incoming officers are 
Jay 
Jordan - vice chairperson, Jake McLeod - secretary, and Diana Tomchick will 
remain as treasurer. 
 
Thanks for your help with this.
 
Cavingly yours,
 
Bill Steele 
 
PS - Editor Jill Orr is looking for someone with each grotto to "ride herd" 
on grotto members to get articles
written and sent to her. I'm going to do so for the DFW Grotto. Jake 
McLeod, if you read this, know that I'm going to ask you to write one about 
becoming a caver in Texas. You sure have done that over the past six months. 

[Texascavers] Wake: Call for musicians

2012-12-04 Thread vivbone
Alright, all you musically inclined friends, cavers and associates of Nathan 
out there-  Nathan needs a good lively New Orleans style 2nd line parade at his 
wake. Whose in? No experience necessary. I can have several shakers, 
tambourines, kazoos and what not on hand for those who don't have a trumpet on 
hand, but would like to participate.  
Contact me off list if you can join the tribute. We'll have a rehearsal next 
Wednesday Nov 12, which is an off-grotto Wednesday for UT cavers.
-Vivian Loftin

--- On Mon, 12/3/12, Denise P  wrote:

From: Denise P 
Subject: [Texascavers] Wake
To: "TexasCavers" 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Monday, December 3, 2012, 9:45 PM





Hello-There is a wake for Nathan Parker planned for December 15. It's at 6pm at 
2100 Metcalfe Road in south Austin. Please pass the invite on to everyone. Hope 
to see you there.

 

-Denise
  


[Texascavers] 50 Years of Texas Caving

2012-12-04 Thread Mixon Bill
I have a supply of Carl's 50 Years of Texas Caving book, and I highly  
recommend it. Along with the recent AMCS things, I'll have a few  
copies of 50 Years at the UT Grotto meeting tomorrow night for $40,  
which is a very good price for a 500-page hardbound book full of color  
illustrations.


Books are heavy. It will be nice if some kind soul helps carry what  
isn't sold back to the vicinity of the Posse after the meeting. -- Mixon


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[Texascavers] 50 Years of Texas Caving

2012-12-04 Thread Mixon Bill
Here's the review I wrote of the book in 2007. Note that you can now,  
temporarily, get it for  a lower price, as announced here today. --  
Mixon


50 Years of Texas Caving. Carl E. Kunath.  A&K Enterprises, San  
Angelo, Texas; 2007. 8.5 by 11 inches, 526 pages, hardbound. $50.  
(Order from the author at 3720 Ransom Road, San Angelo, Texas 76903.  
Add $5 for U.S. surface shipping.  For other postage, ask carl.kun...@suddenlink.net 
.)


Wow! Five hundred pages. Six hundred illustrations. Two hundred  
thousand words. Nearly five pounds of heavy, coated paper in a hard  
cover. Could this be a fifty-dollar book that is actually worth  
fifty dollars?


This book nominally covers the period from 1951 through 2000, but  
there are some notes from earlier years, and some data from later  
years appear in tables and elsewhere, including a short epilog. The  
main chronological section contains year-by-year summaries of two or  
three pages each. Then there are capsule histories of the sixty-nine  
Texas caving groups that have existed over the years. Next is a  
Serious Side  section covering things like cave science and  
conservation, Texas cavers' work in Mexico and New Mexico, cave  
diving, and accidents and fatalities. A Lighter Side section  
describes famous parties and recounts humorous tales about things  
like vehicular misadventures. Finally there is a long section with  
histories of Texas's ten greatest caves and one cave in Mexico with  
which Texas cavers have been heavily involved, especially in  
restoration.


The book is to some extent organized around the history of the Texas  
Region of the NSS, now called the Texas Speleological Association.  
The amount of research is impressive, with information from the  
Texas Caver, the archives of the TSA and the Texas Speleological  
Survey, and many interviews and other sources. Jerry Atkinson wrote  
a lot of the groups section, and some others contributed portions of  
the book, notably in the science chapters. Interesting old letters  
are quoted or reproduced.


The illustrations include about 375 photos, two-thirds of them in  
color. The colors in some of the older photos look a bit faded, but  
generally the photographs are well printed. A wide net was cast for  
photos, and we see such things as a yearbook photo of the 1958  
members of the Kerrville Speleological Society at the Schreiner  
Institute (now Schreiner University, where the International  
Congress of Speleology will be held in 2009). Especially noteworthy  
are photographs in the greatest caves section, many by the author.  
There are cartoons scattered throughout, and the other drawings,  
many in color, include things like posters and newsletter covers. A  
few of the photos and cartoons have been childishly censored, even  
to the extent of digitally amputating a middle finger that would  
have been a whole eighth of an inch long on the page.


I had read snatches of the book as I was doing the final page layout  
following the author's specifications. Before writing this review, I  
borrowed a set of unbound press proofs while the finished books were  
on their way from China, thinking that I really ought to read some  
more of it before I wrote a review. I ended up reading the whole  
thing straight through. In doing so, I noticed a few redundancies,  
but this might actually be a good thing, because I imagine most  
readers will skip around in the book, picking out the parts most  
interesting to them and, perhaps, never quite getting around to the  
history of the Central Catholic High School Grotto (1972–1973).  
While, inevitably, I could quibble with the punctuation here and  
there, the grammar is exceptional, and everything reads smoothly. I  
noticed one clearly typographical error in the whole book. (I  
believe Jerry Atkinson deserves much credit for proofreading, too.)  
In these respects, this book must be in the top percent or so of  
cave books.


Carl Kunath is a bit of a curmudgeon, and it doesn't take a very  
close reading to see that he thinks Texas caving, and the Texas  
Speleological Association in particular, have gone all to hell since  
the good old days. To some extent, he is justified. Certainly there  
haven't been any recent discoveries like Caverns of Sonora or  
Natural Bridge Caverns, which became two of the country's top show  
caves. The main responsibilities of the TSA, the Texas Caver and the  
annual spring conventions, have been hit or miss. He doesn’t give  
much credit for the more popular, if unofficial, Texas Caver  
Reunions that have been held faithfully for the past thirty years.  
The book seems to be best about the earlier times, when Kunath was  
himself more involved and knew most of the smaller number of active  
cavers. Of course, the older days will be most interesting to the  
reader, too, because they are less familiar to most of us. Kunath  
also tends to assess the quality of grottos based on their esprit de  

[Texascavers] Re: 50 Years of Texas Caving special offer

2012-12-04 Thread Logan McNatt
Carl Kunath's special offer of $40 for his book 50 Years of Texas Caving is a great deal that would make a long-lasting Christmas present for 
your caver friends and/or yourself.


As a bonus, anyone who orders the book can receive a free set of all available print copies of  The Texas Caver magazine from 1970-1999 (approx. 
100 back issues still in print). The set weighs approx. 5 lbs and takes up about 12 inches of shelf space. _If requested_, one set will be 
shipped free (in U.S.) for each book ordered. Contact me for further details.


Logan McNatt
512-462-9581
Austin, TX  78745


[Texascavers] Ezell's Cave clean up

2012-12-04 Thread Ron Ralph
Cavers,

 

A reminder that we need your help!  The Texas Cave Management Association
(TCMA) will be having a work day to spruce up one of our properties, the
Ezells Cave Preserve in Hays County.  We plan to prune limbs, cut weeds,
haul off junk, and just generally make the property more attractive.  We
need people, saws, loppers, weed eaters, gloves, and maybe even someone with
a trailer willing to carry all the debris to the landfill.  Bring your own
drinks and snacks for the work, but TCMA will treat all volunteers to pizza
and drinks after we are done.

 

The date is Saturday, December 8, 2012.  The time to meet is 9:00 am.  Meet
at the 1500 block of Brown Street, San Marcos. Cell number for the day:
512-797-3817 (Ron Ralph).

 

If anyone wishes to enter the cave after the work is completed, the Preserve
Manager has agreed to that.  All visitors to the Preserve will be asked to
sign a liability waiver. Please give Ron a call if you get lost or would
like more details.

 

Thanks for your support!

 

Directions to Ezell's Cave Preserve

Roughly 1500 Brown Street

 

If coming in on IH 35 from the north or south, take exit 202 (Wonder World)
and turn west passing the Valero and over the railroad tracks.

 

At the traffic light, turn right on Hunter Road or FM 2439 (north), then
left on Dixon (across from Jack's Road House), then jog right on Blevin and
go past the Habitat for Humanity houses that back up to TCMA property.

 

Turn left at the next street (Clara) and left again at the next intersection
(Brown).

 

Ezell's Cave Preserve is the first jungle on the left.

 



[Texascavers] FW: Interdisciplinary-Hydrologist/Soil Scientist Medford Program Lead

2012-12-04 Thread Louise Power

If we have any interdisciplinary-hydrologist/soil scientists looking for a 
permanent/full-time job (a rare commodity at this time in the federal gov't), 
here's an opportunity. Good pay and benefits; beautiful and historical part of 
the country; lotsa places for all kinds of outdoor activities including hiking 
the Pacific Crest Trail; rafting the Wild & Scenic Rogue and other nearby 
rivers; and yes, we have caves and active grottos. And the beaches are just a 
few hours away through the Coast Range. Also, bird watching; hunting (birds, 
elk, deer, etc); fishing, snow skiing, etc. We also have active art and theatre 
communities. 
 
COME ONE, COME ALL!




The following  vacancy can be found on USA Jobs after the opening date below.
 
OR Merit-2012-0048
 
Interdisciplinary-Hydrologist/Soil Scientist 
GS-1315/0470-12
Bureau of Land Management, Medford, OR District
Permanent / Full-time
Open:  Tuesday, December 4 2012
Close:  Monday, December 17, 2012