[Texascavers] Nat Geo Explorer Talk
Hey All, Randomly found this on youtube. Some of the info is rehashed from cave diving done by Nat Geo and/or BBC's Planet Earth. For 15 minutes it's enjoyable enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y5sIKt_-TE&feature=g-high-rec Z
[Texascavers] Nat Geo Explorer Talk
Hey All, Randomly found this on youtube. Some of the info is rehashed from cave diving done by Nat Geo and/or BBC's Planet Earth. For 15 minutes it's enjoyable enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y5sIKt_-TE&feature=g-high-rec Z
[Texascavers] Nat Geo Explorer Talk
Hey All, Randomly found this on youtube. Some of the info is rehashed from cave diving done by Nat Geo and/or BBC's Planet Earth. For 15 minutes it's enjoyable enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y5sIKt_-TE&feature=g-high-rec Z
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
All, Our Fire Department Christmas Party is the 15th. I for sure can't make the meeting, though. I miss all you people. I'd sure like to see a presentation, Matthew, since PBSS has done some good caving this past year! Jacqui On Dec 7, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: > I have a company Crhistmas Party that evening > Sorry, > Bill > - Original Message - > From: Ormsby, Matthew A > To: p...@caver.net > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:58 AM > Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting > > Cavers, > > I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am > willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if > anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host > the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough > interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on > Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I > don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and > availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by > Monday. > > Matthew > The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are > confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) > only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use > this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and > then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. > > > > ___ > PBSS mailing list > p...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET > ___ > PBSS mailing list > p...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
All, Our Fire Department Christmas Party is the 15th. I for sure can't make the meeting, though. I miss all you people. I'd sure like to see a presentation, Matthew, since PBSS has done some good caving this past year! Jacqui On Dec 7, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: > I have a company Crhistmas Party that evening > Sorry, > Bill > - Original Message - > From: Ormsby, Matthew A > To: p...@caver.net > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:58 AM > Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting > > Cavers, > > I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am > willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if > anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host > the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough > interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on > Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I > don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and > availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by > Monday. > > Matthew > The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are > confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) > only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use > this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and > then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. > > > > ___ > PBSS mailing list > p...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET > ___ > PBSS mailing list > p...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
All, Our Fire Department Christmas Party is the 15th. I for sure can't make the meeting, though. I miss all you people. I'd sure like to see a presentation, Matthew, since PBSS has done some good caving this past year! Jacqui On Dec 7, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: > I have a company Crhistmas Party that evening > Sorry, > Bill > - Original Message - > From: Ormsby, Matthew A > To: p...@caver.net > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:58 AM > Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting > > Cavers, > > I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am > willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if > anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host > the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough > interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on > Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I > don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and > availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by > Monday. > > Matthew > The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are > confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) > only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use > this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and > then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. > > > > ___ > PBSS mailing list > p...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET > ___ > PBSS mailing list > p...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
texascavers Digest 7 Dec 2012 17:57:59 -0000 Issue 1677
texascavers Digest 7 Dec 2012 17:57:59 - Issue 1677 Topics (messages 21110 through 21124): Re: Chagas disease 21110 by: Logan McNatt Re: La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, Mèxico 2 by: George Veni Kissy Kissy 21112 by: Linda Palit Triatoma 21113 by: BMorgan994.aol.com 21120 by: Geary Schindel 21122 by: BMorgan994.aol.com 21123 by: Ted Samsel 21124 by: BMorgan994.aol.com Kissy Kissy Pooh-Pooh 21114 by: Logan McNatt 21115 by: Linda Palit 21118 by: Louise Power Re: La segunda cueva mas larga 21116 by: Mark Minton 21117 by: Preston Forsythe Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga 21119 by: George Veni Las Segunda Cueva 21121 by: Pat Kambesis Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- Interesting discussion. As Aimee said, it's not the bite that can give you Chagas disease, it's what they do from the other end. The _first_ time I got bitten by a kissing bug was in 1973 in Rio Frio Cave in Belize. Bit me on my calf and hurt like hell, which is unusual. Back at Barb MacLeod's house, she told me all about Chagas disease, and that one of the first symptoms could be facial swelling. A week or two later we were camped in the Caves Branch Cave system when I woke up in the morning and one side of my forehead was swollen the size of a baseball. I tubed back to the entrance and spent a sleepless night wondering if I should fly back to the states. Fortunately (?) the swelling was caused by 12 beefworms in my head, which Barb squeezed out over the next week or so. She had to rest a lot because her thumbs hurt. Then in 1976 I was again camped in the Caves Branch system with Tom Miller. Woke up in the middle of the night to see two kissing bugs at least an inch long waddling away from me, so engorged with my blood that they could barely move, and the blood visible through their swollen bodies. I snatched them up and put them in a collecting bottle. Kissing bugs are very common in most Belize caves (and most other tropical caves?), and over the years I spent a total of several months camped in them. Plus over a year living in thatch huts. Probably had the not-so-little buggers crawling over me many times while I was asleep. Hadn't thought about it much until y'all mentioned irregular heart rhythms as being one of the possible long-term symptoms. For over 10 years I've had what my electro-cardiologist calls "a really weird arrhythmia". Went through a number of heart procedures like cardioversions and cardiac ablations, and haven't had a problem for over one year now. But I never considered the possibility of Chagas Disease. In the immortal words of Barbara MacLeod from The Reduviid Song: Never let a reduviid take a dump in your eye; If you get kissed bv the kissing bug you can kiss your ass goodbye! Now you've listened to my story and you ought to know why, Never let a triatomid take a s*** in your eye. LowGun --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- In case you haven’t heard or can’t read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac Actun and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, Mexico, have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the second longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema Ox Bel Ha. When (not if), that connection is made, the total length will be at least within 85 km of Mammoth Cave’s current length of 628 km. Considering how many other caves are in the area and the rate they are being surveyed, don’t be surprised if in a short time the longest cave in the world is in Mexico and underwater! Congratulations to all involved for a fantastic accomplishment. As an interesting historical note, when Mammoth became the longest cave in 1972 through its connection to the Flint Ridge Cave System, its total length was only 232 km. George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org _ From: AIDA Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:23 PM Subject: [tlamaqui] La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, Mèxico Hola amantes de cuevas, éste es un anuncio corto pero conciso, pequeño pero rinconero: El articulo acerca la conexión del Sistema Dos Ojos con el Sistema Sac Actun acaba de aparecer recientemente en el noticiario de la NSS. Oficialmente es la segunda cueva mas larga en el mundo con una longitud de 303 km, localizado en Quintana Roo, Mèxico. Pronto será enlistado como tal en la
texascavers Digest 7 Dec 2012 17:57:59 -0000 Issue 1677
texascavers Digest 7 Dec 2012 17:57:59 - Issue 1677 Topics (messages 21110 through 21124): Re: Chagas disease 21110 by: Logan McNatt Re: La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, Mèxico 2 by: George Veni Kissy Kissy 21112 by: Linda Palit Triatoma 21113 by: BMorgan994.aol.com 21120 by: Geary Schindel 21122 by: BMorgan994.aol.com 21123 by: Ted Samsel 21124 by: BMorgan994.aol.com Kissy Kissy Pooh-Pooh 21114 by: Logan McNatt 21115 by: Linda Palit 21118 by: Louise Power Re: La segunda cueva mas larga 21116 by: Mark Minton 21117 by: Preston Forsythe Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga 21119 by: George Veni Las Segunda Cueva 21121 by: Pat Kambesis Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- Interesting discussion. As Aimee said, it's not the bite that can give you Chagas disease, it's what they do from the other end. The _first_ time I got bitten by a kissing bug was in 1973 in Rio Frio Cave in Belize. Bit me on my calf and hurt like hell, which is unusual. Back at Barb MacLeod's house, she told me all about Chagas disease, and that one of the first symptoms could be facial swelling. A week or two later we were camped in the Caves Branch Cave system when I woke up in the morning and one side of my forehead was swollen the size of a baseball. I tubed back to the entrance and spent a sleepless night wondering if I should fly back to the states. Fortunately (?) the swelling was caused by 12 beefworms in my head, which Barb squeezed out over the next week or so. She had to rest a lot because her thumbs hurt. Then in 1976 I was again camped in the Caves Branch system with Tom Miller. Woke up in the middle of the night to see two kissing bugs at least an inch long waddling away from me, so engorged with my blood that they could barely move, and the blood visible through their swollen bodies. I snatched them up and put them in a collecting bottle. Kissing bugs are very common in most Belize caves (and most other tropical caves?), and over the years I spent a total of several months camped in them. Plus over a year living in thatch huts. Probably had the not-so-little buggers crawling over me many times while I was asleep. Hadn't thought about it much until y'all mentioned irregular heart rhythms as being one of the possible long-term symptoms. For over 10 years I've had what my electro-cardiologist calls "a really weird arrhythmia". Went through a number of heart procedures like cardioversions and cardiac ablations, and haven't had a problem for over one year now. But I never considered the possibility of Chagas Disease. In the immortal words of Barbara MacLeod from The Reduviid Song: Never let a reduviid take a dump in your eye; If you get kissed bv the kissing bug you can kiss your ass goodbye! Now you've listened to my story and you ought to know why, Never let a triatomid take a s*** in your eye. LowGun --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- In case you haven’t heard or can’t read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac Actun and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, Mexico, have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the second longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema Ox Bel Ha. When (not if), that connection is made, the total length will be at least within 85 km of Mammoth Cave’s current length of 628 km. Considering how many other caves are in the area and the rate they are being surveyed, don’t be surprised if in a short time the longest cave in the world is in Mexico and underwater! Congratulations to all involved for a fantastic accomplishment. As an interesting historical note, when Mammoth became the longest cave in 1972 through its connection to the Flint Ridge Cave System, its total length was only 232 km. George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org _ From: AIDA Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:23 PM Subject: [tlamaqui] La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, Mèxico Hola amantes de cuevas, éste es un anuncio corto pero conciso, pequeño pero rinconero: El articulo acerca la conexión del Sistema Dos Ojos con el Sistema Sac Actun acaba de aparecer recientemente en el noticiario de la NSS. Oficialmente es la segunda cueva mas larga en el mundo con una longitud de 303 km, localizado en Quintana Roo, Mèxico. Pronto será enlistado como tal en la
texascavers Digest 7 Dec 2012 17:57:59 -0000 Issue 1677
texascavers Digest 7 Dec 2012 17:57:59 - Issue 1677 Topics (messages 21110 through 21124): Re: Chagas disease 21110 by: Logan McNatt Re: La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, Mèxico 2 by: George Veni Kissy Kissy 21112 by: Linda Palit Triatoma 21113 by: BMorgan994.aol.com 21120 by: Geary Schindel 21122 by: BMorgan994.aol.com 21123 by: Ted Samsel 21124 by: BMorgan994.aol.com Kissy Kissy Pooh-Pooh 21114 by: Logan McNatt 21115 by: Linda Palit 21118 by: Louise Power Re: La segunda cueva mas larga 21116 by: Mark Minton 21117 by: Preston Forsythe Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga 21119 by: George Veni Las Segunda Cueva 21121 by: Pat Kambesis Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- Interesting discussion. As Aimee said, it's not the bite that can give you Chagas disease, it's what they do from the other end. The _first_ time I got bitten by a kissing bug was in 1973 in Rio Frio Cave in Belize. Bit me on my calf and hurt like hell, which is unusual. Back at Barb MacLeod's house, she told me all about Chagas disease, and that one of the first symptoms could be facial swelling. A week or two later we were camped in the Caves Branch Cave system when I woke up in the morning and one side of my forehead was swollen the size of a baseball. I tubed back to the entrance and spent a sleepless night wondering if I should fly back to the states. Fortunately (?) the swelling was caused by 12 beefworms in my head, which Barb squeezed out over the next week or so. She had to rest a lot because her thumbs hurt. Then in 1976 I was again camped in the Caves Branch system with Tom Miller. Woke up in the middle of the night to see two kissing bugs at least an inch long waddling away from me, so engorged with my blood that they could barely move, and the blood visible through their swollen bodies. I snatched them up and put them in a collecting bottle. Kissing bugs are very common in most Belize caves (and most other tropical caves?), and over the years I spent a total of several months camped in them. Plus over a year living in thatch huts. Probably had the not-so-little buggers crawling over me many times while I was asleep. Hadn't thought about it much until y'all mentioned irregular heart rhythms as being one of the possible long-term symptoms. For over 10 years I've had what my electro-cardiologist calls "a really weird arrhythmia". Went through a number of heart procedures like cardioversions and cardiac ablations, and haven't had a problem for over one year now. But I never considered the possibility of Chagas Disease. In the immortal words of Barbara MacLeod from The Reduviid Song: Never let a reduviid take a dump in your eye; If you get kissed bv the kissing bug you can kiss your ass goodbye! Now you've listened to my story and you ought to know why, Never let a triatomid take a s*** in your eye. LowGun --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- In case you haven’t heard or can’t read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac Actun and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, Mexico, have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the second longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema Ox Bel Ha. When (not if), that connection is made, the total length will be at least within 85 km of Mammoth Cave’s current length of 628 km. Considering how many other caves are in the area and the rate they are being surveyed, don’t be surprised if in a short time the longest cave in the world is in Mexico and underwater! Congratulations to all involved for a fantastic accomplishment. As an interesting historical note, when Mammoth became the longest cave in 1972 through its connection to the Flint Ridge Cave System, its total length was only 232 km. George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org _ From: AIDA Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:23 PM Subject: [tlamaqui] La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, Mèxico Hola amantes de cuevas, éste es un anuncio corto pero conciso, pequeño pero rinconero: El articulo acerca la conexión del Sistema Dos Ojos con el Sistema Sac Actun acaba de aparecer recientemente en el noticiario de la NSS. Oficialmente es la segunda cueva mas larga en el mundo con una longitud de 303 km, localizado en Quintana Roo, Mèxico. Pronto será enlistado como tal en la
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
I have. I live here in Gainesville which is full of tropical researchers and doctors, none of whom can tell shit (as in a fresh specimen) from shinola. In a message dated 12/7/2012 12:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, t.b.sam...@gmail.com writes: You go to the wrong doctors. Try a medical school that specializes in tropical medicine. T On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM, <_BMorgan994@aol.com_ (mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com) > wrote: In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _gschindel@edwardsaquifer.org_ (mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org) writes: Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing the obvious the doctor simply fires you. Sleaze
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
I have. I live here in Gainesville which is full of tropical researchers and doctors, none of whom can tell shit (as in a fresh specimen) from shinola. In a message dated 12/7/2012 12:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, t.b.sam...@gmail.com writes: You go to the wrong doctors. Try a medical school that specializes in tropical medicine. T On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM, <_BMorgan994@aol.com_ (mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com) > wrote: In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _gschindel@edwardsaquifer.org_ (mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org) writes: Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing the obvious the doctor simply fires you. Sleaze
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
I have. I live here in Gainesville which is full of tropical researchers and doctors, none of whom can tell shit (as in a fresh specimen) from shinola. In a message dated 12/7/2012 12:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, t.b.sam...@gmail.com writes: You go to the wrong doctors. Try a medical school that specializes in tropical medicine. T On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM, <_BMorgan994@aol.com_ (mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com) > wrote: In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _gschindel@edwardsaquifer.org_ (mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org) writes: Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing the obvious the doctor simply fires you. Sleaze
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
I have a company Crhistmas Party that evening Sorry, Bill - Original Message - From: Ormsby, Matthew A To: p...@caver.net Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting Cavers, I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by Monday. Matthew The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. -- ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
I have a company Crhistmas Party that evening Sorry, Bill - Original Message - From: Ormsby, Matthew A To: p...@caver.net Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting Cavers, I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by Monday. Matthew The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. -- ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
I have a company Crhistmas Party that evening Sorry, Bill - Original Message - From: Ormsby, Matthew A To: p...@caver.net Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting Cavers, I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by Monday. Matthew The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. -- ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
You go to the wrong doctors. Try a medical school that specializes in tropical medicine. T On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM, wrote: > ** > > > In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes: > > Bruce, > > > > You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for > lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs > favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they > get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. > > > > Geary > > > You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything > novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab > tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a > common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with > malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among > others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing > the obvious the doctor simply fires you. > > Sleaze >
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
You go to the wrong doctors. Try a medical school that specializes in tropical medicine. T On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM, wrote: > ** > > > In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes: > > Bruce, > > > > You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for > lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs > favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they > get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. > > > > Geary > > > You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything > novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab > tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a > common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with > malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among > others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing > the obvious the doctor simply fires you. > > Sleaze >
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
You go to the wrong doctors. Try a medical school that specializes in tropical medicine. T On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM, wrote: > ** > > > In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes: > > Bruce, > > > > You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for > lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs > favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they > get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. > > > > Geary > > > You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything > novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab > tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a > common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with > malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among > others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing > the obvious the doctor simply fires you. > > Sleaze >
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes: Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing the obvious the doctor simply fires you. Sleaze
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes: Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing the obvious the doctor simply fires you. Sleaze
Re: [Texascavers] Triatoma
In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes: Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary You are so wrong about that. Doctors hate it when confronted with anything novel, and for liability reasons will flat out refuse to treat you if lab tests are inconclusive even when it is obvious that you are sick with a common disease killing millions around the globe. So it was for me with malaria, amoebiasis, strongylodiasis, and various tick bourn diseases among others of unknown etiology. If you complain that they are not addressing the obvious the doctor simply fires you. Sleaze
[PBSS] December Meeting
Cavers, I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by Monday. Matthew The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[PBSS] December Meeting
Cavers, I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by Monday. Matthew The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[PBSS] December Meeting
Cavers, I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a final determination by Monday. Matthew The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga
According to the Peter Quick (Fisher Ridge project leader), they have tried hard to find passages heading in the Mammoth Cave direction and have so far not been successful. That does not means its not possible - its just not currently imminent. The next potential viable connection to Mammoth Cave is Whigpistle Cave which would add about 37 miles to the system - and efforts are currently ongoing for making that connection. Note NSS New about connection potentials and length of Maca - the "dark horse" referenced in the article is the great underwater caves of the Yucatan! pk On 12/6/12, Preston Forsythe wrote: > More than a few years ago I went to the closest spot between Fisher and > Roppel (MaCa). Joe Saunders led me to this upper rocky crawl where I went to > > the bitter end, rocky collapse, and placed a sign Joe had given me, stating > > something to the effect, we (Fisher Ridge) does not want to be swallowed. Do > > not come any closer! I wonder if that is still the closest spot? Since it > was an upper level rocky crawl that area is not given much hope to connect. > > We went in from the Remington Entr. to Fisher. Fun times with Joe. > > Cavingly, > > Preston Forsythe > > - > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Minton" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:06 PM > Subject: [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga > > > Minor update. According to Jim Coke > (QRSS), another connection has pushed the length > of Sac Actun to over 308 km. The longest cave in > the world might well end up in Quintana Roo, > although if (when) Fisher Ridge connects to > Mammoth, that'll add another 200 km to the latter. > > Mark > > At 07:21 PM 12/6/2012, George Veni wrote: > >>In case you haven't heard or can't read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac >>Actun and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, >>Mexico, have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the >> >>second longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema >>Ox Bel Ha. When (not if), that connection is made, the total length will be >> >>at least within 85 km of Mammoth Cave's current length of 628 km. >>Considering how many other caves are in the area and the rate they are >>being surveyed, don't be surprised if in a short time the longest cave in >>the world is in Mexico and underwater! Congratulations to all involved for >> >>a fantastic accomplishment. >> >>As an interesting historical note, when Mammoth became the longest cave in >> >>1972 through its connection to the Flint Ridge Cave System, its total >>length was only 232 km. >> >>George >> >>*** >> >>George Veni, Ph.D. >>Executive Director >>National Cave and Karst Research Institute >>400-1 Cascades Avenue >>Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215Â USA >>Office: 575-887-5517 >>Mobile: 210-863-5919 >>Fax: 575-887-5523 >>gv...@nckri.org >>www.nckri.org >> >>From: AIDA >>Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:23 PM >>Subject: [tlamaqui] La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, >> >>Mexico >> >>Hola amantes de cuevas, >>éste es un anuncio corto pero conciso, pequeño pero rinconero: >>El articulo acerca la conexión del Sistema Dos Ojos con el Sistema Sac >>Actun acaba de aparecer recientemente en el noticiario de la NSS. >>Oficialmente es la segunda cueva mas larga en el mundo con una longitud de >> >>303 km, localizado en Quintana Roo, Mexico. Pronto será enlistado como tal >> >>en la página oficial de QRSS. Cabe mencionar que el joven >> quintanarooense Jacinto Vela, fue el primero en escurrirse por el pequeño >> >> acceso que hizo la conexión posible. Mando mapa y mas info como archivo >> adjunto. >>Saludos! Aida F. > > Please reply to mmin...@caver.net > Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga
According to the Peter Quick (Fisher Ridge project leader), they have tried hard to find passages heading in the Mammoth Cave direction and have so far not been successful. That does not means its not possible - its just not currently imminent. The next potential viable connection to Mammoth Cave is Whigpistle Cave which would add about 37 miles to the system - and efforts are currently ongoing for making that connection. Note NSS New about connection potentials and length of Maca - the "dark horse" referenced in the article is the great underwater caves of the Yucatan! pk On 12/6/12, Preston Forsythe wrote: > More than a few years ago I went to the closest spot between Fisher and > Roppel (MaCa). Joe Saunders led me to this upper rocky crawl where I went to > > the bitter end, rocky collapse, and placed a sign Joe had given me, stating > > something to the effect, we (Fisher Ridge) does not want to be swallowed. Do > > not come any closer! I wonder if that is still the closest spot? Since it > was an upper level rocky crawl that area is not given much hope to connect. > > We went in from the Remington Entr. to Fisher. Fun times with Joe. > > Cavingly, > > Preston Forsythe > > - > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Minton" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:06 PM > Subject: [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga > > > Minor update. According to Jim Coke > (QRSS), another connection has pushed the length > of Sac Actun to over 308 km. The longest cave in > the world might well end up in Quintana Roo, > although if (when) Fisher Ridge connects to > Mammoth, that'll add another 200 km to the latter. > > Mark > > At 07:21 PM 12/6/2012, George Veni wrote: > >>In case you haven't heard or can't read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac >>Actun and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, >>Mexico, have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the >> >>second longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema >>Ox Bel Ha. When (not if), that connection is made, the total length will be >> >>at least within 85 km of Mammoth Cave's current length of 628 km. >>Considering how many other caves are in the area and the rate they are >>being surveyed, don't be surprised if in a short time the longest cave in >>the world is in Mexico and underwater! Congratulations to all involved for >> >>a fantastic accomplishment. >> >>As an interesting historical note, when Mammoth became the longest cave in >> >>1972 through its connection to the Flint Ridge Cave System, its total >>length was only 232 km. >> >>George >> >>*** >> >>George Veni, Ph.D. >>Executive Director >>National Cave and Karst Research Institute >>400-1 Cascades Avenue >>Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215Â USA >>Office: 575-887-5517 >>Mobile: 210-863-5919 >>Fax: 575-887-5523 >>gv...@nckri.org >>www.nckri.org >> >>From: AIDA >>Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:23 PM >>Subject: [tlamaqui] La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, >> >>Mexico >> >>Hola amantes de cuevas, >>éste es un anuncio corto pero conciso, pequeño pero rinconero: >>El articulo acerca la conexión del Sistema Dos Ojos con el Sistema Sac >>Actun acaba de aparecer recientemente en el noticiario de la NSS. >>Oficialmente es la segunda cueva mas larga en el mundo con una longitud de >> >>303 km, localizado en Quintana Roo, Mexico. Pronto será enlistado como tal >> >>en la página oficial de QRSS. Cabe mencionar que el joven >> quintanarooense Jacinto Vela, fue el primero en escurrirse por el pequeño >> >> acceso que hizo la conexión posible. Mando mapa y mas info como archivo >> adjunto. >>Saludos! Aida F. > > Please reply to mmin...@caver.net > Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga
According to the Peter Quick (Fisher Ridge project leader), they have tried hard to find passages heading in the Mammoth Cave direction and have so far not been successful. That does not means its not possible - its just not currently imminent. The next potential viable connection to Mammoth Cave is Whigpistle Cave which would add about 37 miles to the system - and efforts are currently ongoing for making that connection. Note NSS New about connection potentials and length of Maca - the "dark horse" referenced in the article is the great underwater caves of the Yucatan! pk On 12/6/12, Preston Forsythe wrote: > More than a few years ago I went to the closest spot between Fisher and > Roppel (MaCa). Joe Saunders led me to this upper rocky crawl where I went to > > the bitter end, rocky collapse, and placed a sign Joe had given me, stating > > something to the effect, we (Fisher Ridge) does not want to be swallowed. Do > > not come any closer! I wonder if that is still the closest spot? Since it > was an upper level rocky crawl that area is not given much hope to connect. > > We went in from the Remington Entr. to Fisher. Fun times with Joe. > > Cavingly, > > Preston Forsythe > > - > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Minton" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:06 PM > Subject: [Texascavers] Re: La segunda cueva mas larga > > > Minor update. According to Jim Coke > (QRSS), another connection has pushed the length > of Sac Actun to over 308 km. The longest cave in > the world might well end up in Quintana Roo, > although if (when) Fisher Ridge connects to > Mammoth, that'll add another 200 km to the latter. > > Mark > > At 07:21 PM 12/6/2012, George Veni wrote: > >>In case you haven't heard or can't read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac >>Actun and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, >>Mexico, have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the >> >>second longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema >>Ox Bel Ha. When (not if), that connection is made, the total length will be >> >>at least within 85 km of Mammoth Cave's current length of 628 km. >>Considering how many other caves are in the area and the rate they are >>being surveyed, don't be surprised if in a short time the longest cave in >>the world is in Mexico and underwater! Congratulations to all involved for >> >>a fantastic accomplishment. >> >>As an interesting historical note, when Mammoth became the longest cave in >> >>1972 through its connection to the Flint Ridge Cave System, its total >>length was only 232 km. >> >>George >> >>*** >> >>George Veni, Ph.D. >>Executive Director >>National Cave and Karst Research Institute >>400-1 Cascades Avenue >>Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215Â USA >>Office: 575-887-5517 >>Mobile: 210-863-5919 >>Fax: 575-887-5523 >>gv...@nckri.org >>www.nckri.org >> >>From: AIDA >>Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:23 PM >>Subject: [tlamaqui] La segunda cueva mas larga del mundo, en Quintana Roo, >> >>Mexico >> >>Hola amantes de cuevas, >>éste es un anuncio corto pero conciso, pequeño pero rinconero: >>El articulo acerca la conexión del Sistema Dos Ojos con el Sistema Sac >>Actun acaba de aparecer recientemente en el noticiario de la NSS. >>Oficialmente es la segunda cueva mas larga en el mundo con una longitud de >> >>303 km, localizado en Quintana Roo, Mexico. Pronto será enlistado como tal >> >>en la página oficial de QRSS. Cabe mencionar que el joven >> quintanarooense Jacinto Vela, fue el primero en escurrirse por el pequeño >> >> acceso que hizo la conexión posible. Mando mapa y mas info como archivo >> adjunto. >>Saludos! Aida F. > > Please reply to mmin...@caver.net > Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[Texascavers] Las Segunda Cueva....
According to the Peter Quick (Fisher Ridge project leader), they have tried hard to find passages heading in the Mammoth Cave direction and have so far not been successful. That does not means its not possible - its just not currently imminent. The next potential viable connection to Mammoth Cave is Whigpistle Cave which would add about 37 miles to the system - and efforts are currently ongoing for making that connection. Note NSS New about connection potentials and length of Maca - the "dark horse" referenced in the article is the great underwater caves of the Yucatan! pk - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Las Segunda Cueva....
According to the Peter Quick (Fisher Ridge project leader), they have tried hard to find passages heading in the Mammoth Cave direction and have so far not been successful. That does not means its not possible - its just not currently imminent. The next potential viable connection to Mammoth Cave is Whigpistle Cave which would add about 37 miles to the system - and efforts are currently ongoing for making that connection. Note NSS New about connection potentials and length of Maca - the "dark horse" referenced in the article is the great underwater caves of the Yucatan! pk - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Las Segunda Cueva....
According to the Peter Quick (Fisher Ridge project leader), they have tried hard to find passages heading in the Mammoth Cave direction and have so far not been successful. That does not means its not possible - its just not currently imminent. The next potential viable connection to Mammoth Cave is Whigpistle Cave which would add about 37 miles to the system - and efforts are currently ongoing for making that connection. Note NSS New about connection potentials and length of Maca - the "dark horse" referenced in the article is the great underwater caves of the Yucatan! pk - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Triatoma
Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary From: bmorgan...@aol.com [mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 8:39 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Triatoma The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us. We arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green blob. I stripped off the sheets in horror and was enveloped in a choking cloud of spores that almost induced anaphylactic shock. I yanked the windows open and ran out onto the porch to gasp for air and get a fan. Hours later I ventured back in to put on new sheets. We were exhausted from having slept on the ground for the previous three months so it was time for bed. When I awoke I was still groggy from antihistamines, jet lag, and spore induced bronchitis. As I staggered over to my stack of tee shirts (also blue from mold) I felt something on my neck which I supposed to be a spider so I brushed it off but when I looked down at the floor there was nothing there. I thought that was odd because at Weazelworld spiders and humans live in perfect harmony, they never bother me and I never bother them. But where was the spider? About twenty minutes later while drinking my coffee I gradually became aware of a terrible itch on the back of my neck. I had been scratching at it for several minutes before even being aware of what I was doing. I had clawed my skin raw where half a dozen angry red welts were rapidly rising on my neck. Dr. Ann confirmed what I already supposed, that I had been fed upon by one or more Triatoma sanguisugas. They live in pairs and may even be monogamous. They had a very good meal so they have gone to tend their brood and haven’t been back. But they are still out there and they will be back. Sleaze
RE: [Texascavers] Triatoma
Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary From: bmorgan...@aol.com [mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 8:39 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Triatoma The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us. We arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green blob. I stripped off the sheets in horror and was enveloped in a choking cloud of spores that almost induced anaphylactic shock. I yanked the windows open and ran out onto the porch to gasp for air and get a fan. Hours later I ventured back in to put on new sheets. We were exhausted from having slept on the ground for the previous three months so it was time for bed. When I awoke I was still groggy from antihistamines, jet lag, and spore induced bronchitis. As I staggered over to my stack of tee shirts (also blue from mold) I felt something on my neck which I supposed to be a spider so I brushed it off but when I looked down at the floor there was nothing there. I thought that was odd because at Weazelworld spiders and humans live in perfect harmony, they never bother me and I never bother them. But where was the spider? About twenty minutes later while drinking my coffee I gradually became aware of a terrible itch on the back of my neck. I had been scratching at it for several minutes before even being aware of what I was doing. I had clawed my skin raw where half a dozen angry red welts were rapidly rising on my neck. Dr. Ann confirmed what I already supposed, that I had been fed upon by one or more Triatoma sanguisugas. They live in pairs and may even be monogamous. They had a very good meal so they have gone to tend their brood and haven’t been back. But they are still out there and they will be back. Sleaze
RE: [Texascavers] Triatoma
Bruce, You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs favorite patient and maybe a life long project (as long as it lasts) – they get tired of AIDS and Hepatitis patients day after day. Geary From: bmorgan...@aol.com [mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 8:39 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Triatoma The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us. We arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green blob. I stripped off the sheets in horror and was enveloped in a choking cloud of spores that almost induced anaphylactic shock. I yanked the windows open and ran out onto the porch to gasp for air and get a fan. Hours later I ventured back in to put on new sheets. We were exhausted from having slept on the ground for the previous three months so it was time for bed. When I awoke I was still groggy from antihistamines, jet lag, and spore induced bronchitis. As I staggered over to my stack of tee shirts (also blue from mold) I felt something on my neck which I supposed to be a spider so I brushed it off but when I looked down at the floor there was nothing there. I thought that was odd because at Weazelworld spiders and humans live in perfect harmony, they never bother me and I never bother them. But where was the spider? About twenty minutes later while drinking my coffee I gradually became aware of a terrible itch on the back of my neck. I had been scratching at it for several minutes before even being aware of what I was doing. I had clawed my skin raw where half a dozen angry red welts were rapidly rising on my neck. Dr. Ann confirmed what I already supposed, that I had been fed upon by one or more Triatoma sanguisugas. They live in pairs and may even be monogamous. They had a very good meal so they have gone to tend their brood and haven’t been back. But they are still out there and they will be back. Sleaze
