texascavers Digest 24 Jul 2013 04:29:06 -0000 Issue 1807

2013-07-23 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 24 Jul 2013 04:29:06 - Issue 1807

Topics (messages 5 through 22230):

Bob Hudson
5 by: Carl Kunath

Re: Mallory's friend Jamie reports at ca. 4:00 PM
6 by: Julia Germany

Family (Aunt Sylvia) update on Mallory, 7/23/13
7 by: caverarch

2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine now online!
8 by: ellie watson

Gruta del Mamut
9 by: Preston Forsythe

the NSS Google+ page
22230 by: David

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--- Begin Message ---
Fritz, et al:

You can read about Bob Hudson in 50 YEARS of TEXAS CAVING.  He is quite an 
important person in the history of Texas caving.  I was in touch with Bob in 
the mid-1960s and much of the very early history of Texas caving comes from the 
information he shared with me in several lengthy letters.  

Time passed and eventually, the link was lost.

While researching for the 50 YEARS book, the search for Bob was renewed.  Over 
several years time, all avenues were explored without success.  He is thought 
to be deceased but that is not an absolute certainty.

Anything can happen and the Internet is a far more powerful tool these days.  
If anyone has information, please pass it along.

===Carl Kunath (from Guatemala City)





From: Fritz Holt 

Subject: old member trying to find another old member


Does anyone know the whereabouts or status of Bob Hudson? He was a well known 
caver in the 50's and 60's. I accompanied Jimmy Walker and Bob on one of the 
earliest trips into The Caverns of Sonora (then Mayfield Cave) in about 
December, 1955. Jimmy lost track of Bob in the 60's and assumes he is dead. 
Does anyone have a suggestion on learning his status? Thanks, Fritz Holt--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
I experience James' font problem on my iPhone but not my PC. Glad to know it's 
not just my fon.

- from julia's cell

On Jul 21, 2013, at 21:20, caverarch  wrote:

> It appears that there continues to be a problem with my posts about Mallory 
> to Texas Cavers as described by Jim Jasek below. It has to be a problem of 
> carried over formatting because I copied the message from another post on 
> Mallory's Facebook page.  If I were on a PC I could paste it as plain text, 
> but I'm not sure how to do that on my ibook laptop. And I no longer maintain 
> a desktop PC at home. Sorry about that.
> 
> This text is perfectly visible on my end:
> 
 "Leaving Houston. Mal is holding pretty stable, just a couple ICP spikes 
 in last couple days, it's a very slow process. She still has too much 
 brain swelling to try to take her out of the coma just yet. Plan is to 
 hopefully start slowly bringing her out of it mid week if everything else 
 is still holding normal. Prognosis is still completely uncertain. Please 
 continue to pray for her. It's a very sad situation, but all of her family 
 and friends are very hopeful! "
> 
> Roger 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Jasek 
> To: Roger Moore 
> Sent: Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mallory's friend Jamie reports at ca. 4:00 PM
> 
> Question? I am trying to figure out way the Font from you on my iPhone is not 
> readable? The type is all squeezed together and not readable. The reply you 
> just sent me is perfect. But ones you send out on Mallory are a problem? Got 
> any idea?
> 
> Jim
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Roger Moore wrote:
> 
>> I got this one!
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:07 PM, James Jasek  wrote:
>> 
>>> Roger, I tried to send you an email but it bounced back?
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:17 PM, caverarch wrote:
>>> 
 "Leaving Houston. Mal is holding pretty stable, just a couple ICP spikes 
 in last couple days, it's a very slow process. She still has too much 
 brain swelling to try to take her out of the coma just yet. Plan is to 
 hopefully start slowly bringing her out of it mid week if everything else 
 is still holding normal. Prognosis is still completely uncertain. Please 
 continue to pray for her. It's a very sad situation, but all of her family 
 and friends are very hopeful! "
 
 Roger G. Moore
> 
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
"Update on Mallory Mayeux: They have warmed her back to 97 degrees over the 
last few days. Had to go slowly, because her ICP pressure would spike and then 
they would have to drain off fluid from her brain. She has an infection and 
they are seeing stuff in her lungs (side-affect from being cooled so long), so 
she is on an antibiotic that should help with both issues. Since she shouldn't 
be shivering, they will try to take her off the paralytic t

texascavers Digest 24 Jul 2013 04:29:06 -0000 Issue 1807

2013-07-23 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 24 Jul 2013 04:29:06 - Issue 1807

Topics (messages 5 through 22230):

Bob Hudson
5 by: Carl Kunath

Re: Mallory's friend Jamie reports at ca. 4:00 PM
6 by: Julia Germany

Family (Aunt Sylvia) update on Mallory, 7/23/13
7 by: caverarch

2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine now online!
8 by: ellie watson

Gruta del Mamut
9 by: Preston Forsythe

the NSS Google+ page
22230 by: David

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--- Begin Message ---
Fritz, et al:

You can read about Bob Hudson in 50 YEARS of TEXAS CAVING.  He is quite an 
important person in the history of Texas caving.  I was in touch with Bob in 
the mid-1960s and much of the very early history of Texas caving comes from the 
information he shared with me in several lengthy letters.  

Time passed and eventually, the link was lost.

While researching for the 50 YEARS book, the search for Bob was renewed.  Over 
several years time, all avenues were explored without success.  He is thought 
to be deceased but that is not an absolute certainty.

Anything can happen and the Internet is a far more powerful tool these days.  
If anyone has information, please pass it along.

===Carl Kunath (from Guatemala City)





From: Fritz Holt 

Subject: old member trying to find another old member


Does anyone know the whereabouts or status of Bob Hudson? He was a well known 
caver in the 50's and 60's. I accompanied Jimmy Walker and Bob on one of the 
earliest trips into The Caverns of Sonora (then Mayfield Cave) in about 
December, 1955. Jimmy lost track of Bob in the 60's and assumes he is dead. 
Does anyone have a suggestion on learning his status? Thanks, Fritz Holt--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
I experience James' font problem on my iPhone but not my PC. Glad to know it's 
not just my fon.

- from julia's cell

On Jul 21, 2013, at 21:20, caverarch  wrote:

> It appears that there continues to be a problem with my posts about Mallory 
> to Texas Cavers as described by Jim Jasek below. It has to be a problem of 
> carried over formatting because I copied the message from another post on 
> Mallory's Facebook page.  If I were on a PC I could paste it as plain text, 
> but I'm not sure how to do that on my ibook laptop. And I no longer maintain 
> a desktop PC at home. Sorry about that.
> 
> This text is perfectly visible on my end:
> 
 "Leaving Houston. Mal is holding pretty stable, just a couple ICP spikes 
 in last couple days, it's a very slow process. She still has too much 
 brain swelling to try to take her out of the coma just yet. Plan is to 
 hopefully start slowly bringing her out of it mid week if everything else 
 is still holding normal. Prognosis is still completely uncertain. Please 
 continue to pray for her. It's a very sad situation, but all of her family 
 and friends are very hopeful! "
> 
> Roger 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Jasek 
> To: Roger Moore 
> Sent: Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mallory's friend Jamie reports at ca. 4:00 PM
> 
> Question? I am trying to figure out way the Font from you on my iPhone is not 
> readable? The type is all squeezed together and not readable. The reply you 
> just sent me is perfect. But ones you send out on Mallory are a problem? Got 
> any idea?
> 
> Jim
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Roger Moore wrote:
> 
>> I got this one!
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:07 PM, James Jasek  wrote:
>> 
>>> Roger, I tried to send you an email but it bounced back?
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:17 PM, caverarch wrote:
>>> 
 "Leaving Houston. Mal is holding pretty stable, just a couple ICP spikes 
 in last couple days, it's a very slow process. She still has too much 
 brain swelling to try to take her out of the coma just yet. Plan is to 
 hopefully start slowly bringing her out of it mid week if everything else 
 is still holding normal. Prognosis is still completely uncertain. Please 
 continue to pray for her. It's a very sad situation, but all of her family 
 and friends are very hopeful! "
 
 Roger G. Moore
> 
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
"Update on Mallory Mayeux: They have warmed her back to 97 degrees over the 
last few days. Had to go slowly, because her ICP pressure would spike and then 
they would have to drain off fluid from her brain. She has an infection and 
they are seeing stuff in her lungs (side-affect from being cooled so long), so 
she is on an antibiotic that should help with both issues. Since she shouldn't 
be shivering, they will try to take her off the paralytic t

texascavers Digest 24 Jul 2013 04:29:06 -0000 Issue 1807

2013-07-23 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 24 Jul 2013 04:29:06 - Issue 1807

Topics (messages 5 through 22230):

Bob Hudson
5 by: Carl Kunath

Re: Mallory's friend Jamie reports at ca. 4:00 PM
6 by: Julia Germany

Family (Aunt Sylvia) update on Mallory, 7/23/13
7 by: caverarch

2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine now online!
8 by: ellie watson

Gruta del Mamut
9 by: Preston Forsythe

the NSS Google+ page
22230 by: David

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--
--- Begin Message ---
Fritz, et al:

You can read about Bob Hudson in 50 YEARS of TEXAS CAVING.  He is quite an 
important person in the history of Texas caving.  I was in touch with Bob in 
the mid-1960s and much of the very early history of Texas caving comes from the 
information he shared with me in several lengthy letters.  

Time passed and eventually, the link was lost.

While researching for the 50 YEARS book, the search for Bob was renewed.  Over 
several years time, all avenues were explored without success.  He is thought 
to be deceased but that is not an absolute certainty.

Anything can happen and the Internet is a far more powerful tool these days.  
If anyone has information, please pass it along.

===Carl Kunath (from Guatemala City)





From: Fritz Holt 

Subject: old member trying to find another old member


Does anyone know the whereabouts or status of Bob Hudson? He was a well known 
caver in the 50's and 60's. I accompanied Jimmy Walker and Bob on one of the 
earliest trips into The Caverns of Sonora (then Mayfield Cave) in about 
December, 1955. Jimmy lost track of Bob in the 60's and assumes he is dead. 
Does anyone have a suggestion on learning his status? Thanks, Fritz Holt--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
I experience James' font problem on my iPhone but not my PC. Glad to know it's 
not just my fon.

- from julia's cell

On Jul 21, 2013, at 21:20, caverarch  wrote:

> It appears that there continues to be a problem with my posts about Mallory 
> to Texas Cavers as described by Jim Jasek below. It has to be a problem of 
> carried over formatting because I copied the message from another post on 
> Mallory's Facebook page.  If I were on a PC I could paste it as plain text, 
> but I'm not sure how to do that on my ibook laptop. And I no longer maintain 
> a desktop PC at home. Sorry about that.
> 
> This text is perfectly visible on my end:
> 
 "Leaving Houston. Mal is holding pretty stable, just a couple ICP spikes 
 in last couple days, it's a very slow process. She still has too much 
 brain swelling to try to take her out of the coma just yet. Plan is to 
 hopefully start slowly bringing her out of it mid week if everything else 
 is still holding normal. Prognosis is still completely uncertain. Please 
 continue to pray for her. It's a very sad situation, but all of her family 
 and friends are very hopeful! "
> 
> Roger 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Jasek 
> To: Roger Moore 
> Sent: Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mallory's friend Jamie reports at ca. 4:00 PM
> 
> Question? I am trying to figure out way the Font from you on my iPhone is not 
> readable? The type is all squeezed together and not readable. The reply you 
> just sent me is perfect. But ones you send out on Mallory are a problem? Got 
> any idea?
> 
> Jim
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Roger Moore wrote:
> 
>> I got this one!
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:07 PM, James Jasek  wrote:
>> 
>>> Roger, I tried to send you an email but it bounced back?
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:17 PM, caverarch wrote:
>>> 
 "Leaving Houston. Mal is holding pretty stable, just a couple ICP spikes 
 in last couple days, it's a very slow process. She still has too much 
 brain swelling to try to take her out of the coma just yet. Plan is to 
 hopefully start slowly bringing her out of it mid week if everything else 
 is still holding normal. Prognosis is still completely uncertain. Please 
 continue to pray for her. It's a very sad situation, but all of her family 
 and friends are very hopeful! "
 
 Roger G. Moore
> 
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
"Update on Mallory Mayeux: They have warmed her back to 97 degrees over the 
last few days. Had to go slowly, because her ICP pressure would spike and then 
they would have to drain off fluid from her brain. She has an infection and 
they are seeing stuff in her lungs (side-affect from being cooled so long), so 
she is on an antibiotic that should help with both issues. Since she shouldn't 
be shivering, they will try to take her off the paralytic t

[Texascavers] the NSS Google+ page

2013-07-23 Thread David
I am still sort-of optimistic that cavers will someday find a use for
Google+, as either a supplement to Facebook, or a replacement.

There are 2 NSS sites on Google+.  One is the official page of the NSS
that only sends out official news announcements, and the
other is sort of a chat-page where cavers can post whatever they want.

The chat-page now has 99 members, but I have no idea how many of those
actually
view it.

https://plus.google.com/communities/100328245514364040731

I did not create the chat-page, but I had been following it because I
thought it was a great idea.

The official page now has 626 likes, and over 300 people have it in their
Google circles.   I bet almost all of those are cavers, but many are
overseas.  I haven't been following the page for a few months, but that
is only because I have not been on-line much lately.

https://plus.google.com/111610247864593899054/about

Both of these pages link to one another.  There have been some good
photos posted of the remodeling of the NSS Headquarters.  What is
really great about these 2 pages is the regional caving announcements that
are posted.   This helps organizers of these events, and helps cavers
learn about events they were un-aware of.For example, I have never
heard of the YTR.

http://www.youngtimersreunion.com/

David Locklear


[Texascavers] the NSS Google+ page

2013-07-23 Thread David
I am still sort-of optimistic that cavers will someday find a use for
Google+, as either a supplement to Facebook, or a replacement.

There are 2 NSS sites on Google+.  One is the official page of the NSS
that only sends out official news announcements, and the
other is sort of a chat-page where cavers can post whatever they want.

The chat-page now has 99 members, but I have no idea how many of those
actually
view it.

https://plus.google.com/communities/100328245514364040731

I did not create the chat-page, but I had been following it because I
thought it was a great idea.

The official page now has 626 likes, and over 300 people have it in their
Google circles.   I bet almost all of those are cavers, but many are
overseas.  I haven't been following the page for a few months, but that
is only because I have not been on-line much lately.

https://plus.google.com/111610247864593899054/about

Both of these pages link to one another.  There have been some good
photos posted of the remodeling of the NSS Headquarters.  What is
really great about these 2 pages is the regional caving announcements that
are posted.   This helps organizers of these events, and helps cavers
learn about events they were un-aware of.For example, I have never
heard of the YTR.

http://www.youngtimersreunion.com/

David Locklear


[Texascavers] the NSS Google+ page

2013-07-23 Thread David
I am still sort-of optimistic that cavers will someday find a use for
Google+, as either a supplement to Facebook, or a replacement.

There are 2 NSS sites on Google+.  One is the official page of the NSS
that only sends out official news announcements, and the
other is sort of a chat-page where cavers can post whatever they want.

The chat-page now has 99 members, but I have no idea how many of those
actually
view it.

https://plus.google.com/communities/100328245514364040731

I did not create the chat-page, but I had been following it because I
thought it was a great idea.

The official page now has 626 likes, and over 300 people have it in their
Google circles.   I bet almost all of those are cavers, but many are
overseas.  I haven't been following the page for a few months, but that
is only because I have not been on-line much lately.

https://plus.google.com/111610247864593899054/about

Both of these pages link to one another.  There have been some good
photos posted of the remodeling of the NSS Headquarters.  What is
really great about these 2 pages is the regional caving announcements that
are posted.   This helps organizers of these events, and helps cavers
learn about events they were un-aware of.For example, I have never
heard of the YTR.

http://www.youngtimersreunion.com/

David Locklear


[Texascavers] Gruta del Mamut

2013-07-23 Thread Preston Forsythe
Reading an adventure magazine at the library last week I spotted an ad for his 
cave in Chiapas on the road between San Cristobal and Ocosingo and on to 
Palenque. We have driven that road a couple of times, but not recently.

"Mammoth Cave," anyone been to this cave in Chiapas?

Preston in KY

[Texascavers] Gruta del Mamut

2013-07-23 Thread Preston Forsythe
Reading an adventure magazine at the library last week I spotted an ad for his 
cave in Chiapas on the road between San Cristobal and Ocosingo and on to 
Palenque. We have driven that road a couple of times, but not recently.

"Mammoth Cave," anyone been to this cave in Chiapas?

Preston in KY

[Texascavers] Gruta del Mamut

2013-07-23 Thread Preston Forsythe
Reading an adventure magazine at the library last week I spotted an ad for his 
cave in Chiapas on the road between San Cristobal and Ocosingo and on to 
Palenque. We have driven that road a couple of times, but not recently.

"Mammoth Cave," anyone been to this cave in Chiapas?

Preston in KY

[Texascavers] 2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine now online!

2013-07-23 Thread ellie watson
The 2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine is now available online on the
TSA Website. http://www.cavetexas.org/members/index.php

It's accessible through the member area of the website. If you're a paid
TSA member, and you haven't registered for the member area, go to the link
below and click the register button. If you're a registered member, go to
the same link and enter your e-mail address and password. If you don't
remember your password, you can request it be sent to you.

If you are registering for the first time Heather
Tučekwill verify your current
membership and you'd be notified when you can
access the member area. When you log in, select the Texas Caver Online link
from the menu.

Thanks to Jill Orr  for an excellent
edition. There is a lower resolution 6 MB version available and a high
resolution edition 37 MB. Other than size, they are hard to tell apart when
viewing.

http://www.cavetexas.org/members/index.php


[Texascavers] 2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine now online!

2013-07-23 Thread ellie watson
The 2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine is now available online on the
TSA Website. http://www.cavetexas.org/members/index.php

It's accessible through the member area of the website. If you're a paid
TSA member, and you haven't registered for the member area, go to the link
below and click the register button. If you're a registered member, go to
the same link and enter your e-mail address and password. If you don't
remember your password, you can request it be sent to you.

If you are registering for the first time Heather
Tučekwill verify your current
membership and you'd be notified when you can
access the member area. When you log in, select the Texas Caver Online link
from the menu.

Thanks to Jill Orr  for an excellent
edition. There is a lower resolution 6 MB version available and a high
resolution edition 37 MB. Other than size, they are hard to tell apart when
viewing.

http://www.cavetexas.org/members/index.php


[Texascavers] 2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine now online!

2013-07-23 Thread ellie watson
The 2013 Quarter 02, Texas Caver Magazine is now available online on the
TSA Website. http://www.cavetexas.org/members/index.php

It's accessible through the member area of the website. If you're a paid
TSA member, and you haven't registered for the member area, go to the link
below and click the register button. If you're a registered member, go to
the same link and enter your e-mail address and password. If you don't
remember your password, you can request it be sent to you.

If you are registering for the first time Heather
Tučekwill verify your current
membership and you'd be notified when you can
access the member area. When you log in, select the Texas Caver Online link
from the menu.

Thanks to Jill Orr  for an excellent
edition. There is a lower resolution 6 MB version available and a high
resolution edition 37 MB. Other than size, they are hard to tell apart when
viewing.

http://www.cavetexas.org/members/index.php


[Texascavers] Family (Aunt Sylvia) update on Mallory, 7/23/13

2013-07-23 Thread caverarch
"Update on Mallory Mayeux: They have warmed her back to 97 degrees over the 
last few days. Had to go slowly, because her ICP pressure would spike and then 
they would have to drain off fluid from her brain. She has an infection and 
they are seeing stuff in her lungs (side-affect from being cooled so long), so 
she is on an antibiotic that should help with both issues. Since she shouldn't 
be shivering, they will try to take her off the paralytic tomorrow. One of the 
research doctors came in last tonight and said she was going a little slower 
than they thought she would, but it is going in the right direction. Thank you 
for your continued prayers."


Roger Moore


[Texascavers] Family (Aunt Sylvia) update on Mallory, 7/23/13

2013-07-23 Thread caverarch
"Update on Mallory Mayeux: They have warmed her back to 97 degrees over the 
last few days. Had to go slowly, because her ICP pressure would spike and then 
they would have to drain off fluid from her brain. She has an infection and 
they are seeing stuff in her lungs (side-affect from being cooled so long), so 
she is on an antibiotic that should help with both issues. Since she shouldn't 
be shivering, they will try to take her off the paralytic tomorrow. One of the 
research doctors came in last tonight and said she was going a little slower 
than they thought she would, but it is going in the right direction. Thank you 
for your continued prayers."


Roger Moore


[Texascavers] Family (Aunt Sylvia) update on Mallory, 7/23/13

2013-07-23 Thread caverarch
"Update on Mallory Mayeux: They have warmed her back to 97 degrees over the 
last few days. Had to go slowly, because her ICP pressure would spike and then 
they would have to drain off fluid from her brain. She has an infection and 
they are seeing stuff in her lungs (side-affect from being cooled so long), so 
she is on an antibiotic that should help with both issues. Since she shouldn't 
be shivering, they will try to take her off the paralytic tomorrow. One of the 
research doctors came in last tonight and said she was going a little slower 
than they thought she would, but it is going in the right direction. Thank you 
for your continued prayers."


Roger Moore


Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Jim Evatt
Granny used to tell me “When you go behind the barn, be careful you don’t step 
in something.”

E ^v^

From: dave belski 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:22 AM
To: s...@caver.net 
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One

All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all this 
birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be fitting and 
proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with a bottle of 
something to start the celebration.

Dave




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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Jim Evatt
Granny used to tell me “When you go behind the barn, be careful you don’t step 
in something.”

E ^v^

From: dave belski 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:22 AM
To: s...@caver.net 
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One

All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all this 
birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be fitting and 
proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with a bottle of 
something to start the celebration.

Dave




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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Jim Evatt
Granny used to tell me “When you go behind the barn, be careful you don’t step 
in something.”

E ^v^

From: dave belski 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:22 AM
To: s...@caver.net 
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One

All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all this 
birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be fitting and 
proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with a bottle of 
something to start the celebration.

Dave




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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

On 7/23/2013 2:24 PM, dave belski wrote:

On 7/23/2013 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started 
all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It 
would be fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to 
present him with a bottle of something to start the celebration.**

**
**Dave*

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

On 7/23/2013 2:24 PM, dave belski wrote:

On 7/23/2013 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started 
all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It 
would be fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to 
present him with a bottle of something to start the celebration.**

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

On 7/23/2013 2:24 PM, dave belski wrote:

On 7/23/2013 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started 
all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It 
would be fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to 
present him with a bottle of something to start the celebration.**

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

On 7/23/2013 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started 
all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would 
be fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him 
with a bottle of something to start the celebration.**

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

On 7/23/2013 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started 
all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would 
be fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him 
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

On 7/23/2013 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started 
all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would 
be fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him 
with a bottle of something to start the celebration.**

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Michael Lorimer

  
  
If I would hazard a guess, it is something that one would get from
the south end of a north facing Shriner.

Congratulations David, I would wager that all of the new cave
passages that you helped to discover would add up to more than 76
miles.

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On 7/23/2013 1:58 PM, Andy Komensky
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would  he drink a Shiner Bock??? Does he know what a Shiner Bock
is???

  



  

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To: dave
belski  
Cc:
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Sent:
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Subject:
Re: [SWR] The Elder One
   

  
Cyanide?
  
On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski
  wrote:


   All,
  
  Just to set the record straight, Ken
  Harrington, the rat who started all this
  birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the
  24 July.  It would be fitting and proper
  to wish him all the best.  I plan to
  present him with a bottle of something to
  start the celebration.

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Michael Lorimer

  
  
If I would hazard a guess, it is something that one would get from
the south end of a north facing Shriner.

Congratulations David, I would wager that all of the new cave
passages that you helped to discover would add up to more than 76
miles.

Mike Lorimer
San Antonio, TX 78232


On 7/23/2013 1:58 PM, Andy Komensky
  wrote:


  




would  he drink a Shiner Bock??? Does he know what a Shiner Bock
is???

  



  

From: Carl
Pagano 
To: dave
belski  
Cc:
s...@caver.net 
Sent:
Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject:
Re: [SWR] The Elder One
   

  
Cyanide?
  
On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski
  wrote:


   All,
  
  Just to set the record straight, Ken
  Harrington, the rat who started all this
  birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the
  24 July.  It would be fitting and proper
  to wish him all the best.  I plan to
  present him with a bottle of something to
  start the celebration.

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Michael Lorimer

  
  
If I would hazard a guess, it is something that one would get from
the south end of a north facing Shriner.

Congratulations David, I would wager that all of the new cave
passages that you helped to discover would add up to more than 76
miles.

Mike Lorimer
San Antonio, TX 78232


On 7/23/2013 1:58 PM, Andy Komensky
  wrote:


  




would  he drink a Shiner Bock??? Does he know what a Shiner Bock
is???

  



  

From: Carl
Pagano 
To: dave
belski  
Cc:
s...@caver.net 
Sent:
Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject:
Re: [SWR] The Elder One
   

  
Cyanide?
  
On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski
  wrote:


   All,
  
  Just to set the record straight, Ken
  Harrington, the rat who started all this
  birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the
  24 July.  It would be fitting and proper
  to wish him all the best.  I plan to
  present him with a bottle of something to
  start the celebration.

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Fleming
We don't care about the record, we just want too see the video again.
On Jul 23, 2013 11:23 AM, "dave belski"  wrote:

>  *All,
>
> Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all
> this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be
> fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with a
> bottle of something to start the celebration.**
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Fleming
We don't care about the record, we just want too see the video again.
On Jul 23, 2013 11:23 AM, "dave belski"  wrote:

>  *All,
>
> Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all
> this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be
> fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with a
> bottle of something to start the celebration.**
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Fleming
We don't care about the record, we just want too see the video again.
On Jul 23, 2013 11:23 AM, "dave belski"  wrote:

>  *All,
>
> Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all
> this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be
> fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with a
> bottle of something to start the celebration.**
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Andy Komensky





would  he drink a Shiner Bock??? Does he know what a Shiner Bock is???





 From: Carl Pagano 
To: dave belski  
Cc: s...@caver.net 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One
 


Cyanide?

On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

All,
>
>Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who
  started all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24
  July.  It would be fitting and proper to wish him all the
  best.  I plan to present him with a bottle of something to
  start the celebration.
>
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Andy Komensky





would  he drink a Shiner Bock??? Does he know what a Shiner Bock is???





 From: Carl Pagano 
To: dave belski  
Cc: s...@caver.net 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One
 


Cyanide?

On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

All,
>
>Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who
  started all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24
  July.  It would be fitting and proper to wish him all the
  best.  I plan to present him with a bottle of something to
  start the celebration.
>
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Andy Komensky





would  he drink a Shiner Bock??? Does he know what a Shiner Bock is???





 From: Carl Pagano 
To: dave belski  
Cc: s...@caver.net 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One
 


Cyanide?

On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

All,
>
>Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who
  started all this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24
  July.  It would be fitting and proper to wish him all the
  best.  I plan to present him with a bottle of something to
  start the celebration.
>
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Allen Wright
 From:Allen Wright (siz...@hotmail.com)Sent:Tue 7/23/13 12:30 PMTo: 
jerryat...@aol.com (jerryat...@aol.com)


So if he was a blend of both Red and white wine, he would be rose of color. 😉
 From: jerryat...@aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:37:25 -0500
To: bel...@valornet.com
CC: s...@caver.net
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One

Well, it depends on whether you're a red wine or a white, Dave. A red wine will 
mellow and get richer with age. A white will just turn to vinegar.
Jerry.
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On 7/20/2013 8:42 AM, Ken Harrington
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  76 years ago today in
  the frozen north land the curmudgeon of all cavers was brought
  forth upon the earth (and eventually under it).  Everyone wish
  Dave Belski a happy birthday at bel...@valornet.com. 
  In his advanced age he needs email messages to keep him from
  dozing off or embellishing his tales of caving feats and self
  glory.

 

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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Allen Wright
 From:Allen Wright (siz...@hotmail.com)Sent:Tue 7/23/13 12:30 PMTo: 
jerryat...@aol.com (jerryat...@aol.com)


So if he was a blend of both Red and white wine, he would be rose of color. 😉
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:37:25 -0500
To: bel...@valornet.com
CC: s...@caver.net
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One

Well, it depends on whether you're a red wine or a white, Dave. A red wine will 
mellow and get richer with age. A white will just turn to vinegar.
Jerry.
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On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:30 AM, dave belski  wrote:


On 7/20/2013 8:42 AM, Ken Harrington
  wrote:



  
  76 years ago today in
  the frozen north land the curmudgeon of all cavers was brought
  forth upon the earth (and eventually under it).  Everyone wish
  Dave Belski a happy birthday at bel...@valornet.com. 
  In his advanced age he needs email messages to keep him from
  dozing off or embellishing his tales of caving feats and self
  glory.

 

Ken 
THANKS EVERYONE. IT IS JUST LIKE GOOD WINE, BETTER WITH
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Allen Wright
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jerryat...@aol.com (jerryat...@aol.com)


So if he was a blend of both Red and white wine, he would be rose of color. 😉
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:37:25 -0500
To: bel...@valornet.com
CC: s...@caver.net
Subject: Re: [SWR] The Elder One

Well, it depends on whether you're a red wine or a white, Dave. A red wine will 
mellow and get richer with age. A white will just turn to vinegar.
Jerry.
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On 7/20/2013 8:42 AM, Ken Harrington
  wrote:



  
  76 years ago today in
  the frozen north land the curmudgeon of all cavers was brought
  forth upon the earth (and eventually under it).  Everyone wish
  Dave Belski a happy birthday at bel...@valornet.com. 
  In his advanced age he needs email messages to keep him from
  dozing off or embellishing his tales of caving feats and self
  glory.

 

Ken 
THANKS EVERYONE. IT IS JUST LIKE GOOD WINE, BETTER WITH
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Carl Pagano
Cyanide?
On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

> All,
> 
> Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all this 
> birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be fitting and 
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Carl Pagano
Cyanide?
On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

> All,
> 
> Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all this 
> birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be fitting and 
> proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with a bottle of 
> something to start the celebration.
> 
> Dave
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread Carl Pagano
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On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, dave belski wrote:

> All,
> 
> Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all this 
> birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be fitting and 
> proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with a bottle of 
> something to start the celebration.
> 
> Dave
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all 
this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be 
fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with 
a bottle of something to start the celebration.**

**
**Dave*
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all 
this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be 
fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with 
a bottle of something to start the celebration.**

**
**Dave*
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Re: [SWR] The Elder One

2013-07-23 Thread dave belski

*All,

Just to set the record straight, Ken Harrington, the rat who started all 
this birthday stuff, celebrates his 69th on the 24 July.  It would be 
fitting and proper to wish him all the best.  I plan to present him with 
a bottle of something to start the celebration.**

**
**Dave*
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