[SWR] Requesting Candidates for NSS Secretary-Treasurer
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[Texascavers] Requesting Candidates for NSS Secretary-Treasurer
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Re: [SWR] Dilation theory.
Carl, I think you're on to something here. I agree, it would be great to have The Donald's theory published again. Donald???…. Peter On Sep 7, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Carl Pagano wrote: Does anyone still have a copy of Donald Davis's cave dilation theory? If so, it would be worth publishing again given the increased number of sinkholes. The world is beginning to collapse on itself because there aren't enough people who believe that it is hollow anymore. It used to be that people thought the world was hollow. Cavers promoted this theory, but with the closure of so many caves due to ignorance, the world doesn't know just how many hollow places there are/were, and so they are de-dilating. Carl…. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Dilation theory.
http://www.marckbeggs.com/ALF/2000/taylor.html Reference's The Donald's theory with excerpts. Interesting reading. Would love to read Mr. Davis' publication, in English or German - apparently it was also widely translated julia germany -Original Message- From: Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net To: Carl Pagano pagan...@comcast.net Cc: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net; DONALD DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net Sent: Sat, Sep 7, 2013 4:59 pm Subject: Re: [SWR] Dilation theory. Carl, I think you're on to something here. I agree, it would be great to have The Donald's theory published again. Donald???…. Peter On Sep 7, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Carl Pagano wrote: Does anyone still have a copy of Donald Davis's cave dilation theory? If so, it would be worth publishing again given the increased number of sinkholes. The world is beginning to collapse on itself because there aren't enough people who believe that it is hollow anymore. It used to be that people thought the world was hollow. Cavers promoted this theory, but with the closure of so many caves due to ignorance, the world doesn't know just how many hollow places there are/were, and so they are de-dilating. Carl…. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel
The radio interview on this page is pretty interesting. http://kfyo.com/lubbocks-secret-tunnel-mystery-deepens/ On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote: ** From Jacqui Thomas Lubbock. LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - KCBD 11 in Lubbock A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood. Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard collapsed. We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and everything sank, Smithwick said. Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties. He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties. Apparently one broke, causing the collapse. Now the question is, who built it? Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves. First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground tunnel for 100 years. Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house. He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to figure out if they need take action. The area has been marked off with caution tape. We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 11. * * Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 Lubbockhttp://www.kcbd.com/story/23343684/lubbock-man-discovers-mystery-tunnel-under-his-house Jacqui On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote: Probably Bill's private cave. Sent via C=64 Mobile On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net wrote: A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland where a sinkhole formed in the back yard. Upon inspection they found a tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile. I see no report of this on the local stations web sites. Curious if anyone else had heard this? Kerry ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET -- ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel
I'm out! - Original Message - From: Kerry Lowery To: Jacqueline Thomas ; p...@caver.net Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel I think a group of west texas cavers should volunteer to check this out. From: Jacqueline Thomas Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:48 PM To: p...@caver.net Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel Lubbock. LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - KCBD 11 in Lubbock A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood. Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard collapsed. We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and everything sank, Smithwick said. Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties. He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties. Apparently one broke, causing the collapse. Now the question is, who built it? Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves. First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground tunnel for 100 years. Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house. He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to figure out if they need take action. The area has been marked off with caution tape. We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 11. Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 Lubbock Jacqui On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote: Probably Bill's private cave. Sent via C=64 Mobile On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net wrote: A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland where a sinkhole formed in the back yard. Upon inspection they found a tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile. I see no report of this on the local stations web sites. Curious if anyone else had heard this? Kerry ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET -- ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET -- ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
RE: [Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel
Ah yes, I definitely see a trend. The earth is trying to heal itself by getting rid of all the cars. I foresee another sinkhole in the street in front of this guy's house where the tunnel goes. From: ca...@caver.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com CC: s...@caver.net Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 23:17:02 -0500 Subject: [Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel From Jacqui Thomas Lubbock. LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - KCBD 11 in Lubbock A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood. Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard collapsed. We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and everything sank, Smithwick said. Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties. He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties. Apparently one broke, causing the collapse. Now the question is, who built it? Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves. First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground tunnel for 100 years. Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house. He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to figure out if they need take action. The area has been marked off with caution tape. We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 11. Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 Lubbock Jacqui On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote: Probably Bill's private cave. Sent via C=64 Mobile On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net wrote: A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland where a sinkhole formed in the back yard. Upon inspection they found a tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile. I see no report of this on the local stations web sites. Curious if anyone else had heard this? Kerry ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel
My money is on the bootleggers. From: jlrtho...@verizon.net Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 09:43:09 -0500 To: george.nincehel...@gmail.com CC: s...@caver.net; p...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel Really interesting and in-depth radio discussion of the sinkhole/tunnel. Thanks for the link, George! Jacqui On Sep 7, 2013, at 1:17 AM, George D. Nincehelser wrote:The radio interview on this page is pretty interesting. http://kfyo.com/lubbocks-secret-tunnel-mystery-deepens/ On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote: From Jacqui Thomas Lubbock. LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - KCBD 11 in Lubbock A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood. Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard collapsed. We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and everything sank, Smithwick said. Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties. He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties. Apparently one broke, causing the collapse. Now the question is, who built it? Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves. First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground tunnel for 100 years. Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house. He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to figure out if they need take action. The area has been marked off with caution tape. We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 11. Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 Lubbock Jacqui On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote: Probably Bill's private cave. Sent via C=64 Mobile On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net wrote: A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland where a sinkhole formed in the back yard. Upon inspection they found a tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile. I see no report of this on the local stations web sites. Curious if anyone else had heard this? Kerry ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel
I agree.Bentley's private entrance to CaCa.. -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org To: Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net Cc: p...@caver.net p...@caver.net Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 7:38 pm Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel Probably Bill's private cave. Sent via C=64 Mobile On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net wrote: A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland where a sinkhole formed in the back yard. Upon inspection they found a tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile. I see no report of this on the local stations web sites. Curious if anyone else had heard this? Kerry ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [PBSS] [SWR] [Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel
Too bad some Lubbock cavers didn't get there and check it out before it went 'viral'. Looks to be naturally dug and dry. Unfortunately irrigating the yard above it finally weakened the roof. In 1986 I was asked to investigate a similar collapse info a tunnel in rural PA. A guys tractor wheel started the collapse, while turning his pasture. Another caver and I suited up and climbed down and mapped it. It was only hundreds of feet long with small dimensions like this one, except it was waist deep flooded. It was near an old rail bed that was long gone, the Juniata RR. Looking at old maps proved it was a very early iron prospect, from hundreds of years ago. Guy covered up the collapse with old tires and kept farming. John Lyles Sent from a Motorola Droid Jacqueline Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net wrote: ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
