Re: [Texascavers] Mailing List update and bounce information

2014-08-23 Thread Jerry via Texascavers

I'm with Marvin.  And I think it's pretty low stuff to pick on someone just for 
laughs.  Might actually hurt someone pretty bad.
 
Jerry Atkinson.
 
 
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From: Marvin Miller via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 5:56 pm
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I like to read Locklear.



On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Don Cooper via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

Thanks again for your help with the texas cavers remailer.
In the past, I put a filter into my gmail profile to automatically dump all 
messages originated by David Locklear,
However - with recent changes to the system - he seems to have gotten around it 
and - yeah, it's annoying to me that now I get these messages as 'David through 
Texascavers'...
Tips?
-Don C



On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:53 PM, caverarch via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

I'm all with Jon in thanking you for your efforts, Charles!


Roger Moore



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Charles,
I think the work you do and amount of volunteer time you donate is great.
I have no issue with these technical glitches that the computers feel they need 
to throw out at us humans from time to time.
Many thanks for fighting them off,
JC
 



 

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Re: [Texascavers] Replies to various post

2014-08-23 Thread Geary Schindel via Texascavers
Charles,


IYour certificate from the NSS President is much deserved. I don't think most 
folks realize the amount of work that you've put into the NSS web pages and IT 
issues, as well as all of the work for the Texas Cavers. When Alex Sproul sings 
like he has, you've been elevated to one step below saint hood.


Thanks for all your hard work.


Geary




From: Texascavers texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com on behalf of Charles 
Goldsmith via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 11:17 PM
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Thanks Julia!

David, people can't filter on emails anymore here, because all emails come from 
texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com

That's what I had to change to keep things moving around here.  It displays 
your name with some magical trickery, but your email is no longer listed in the 
headers of the email.

Oh, and for everyone else, I got a nice certificate of appreciation from our 
dearest president of the NSS, Wm Shrewsbury.  Guess he awarded it to me at 
convention after I had left.  Received it int he mail this week.  It was for my 
work on the NSS server migration earlier this year (and still ongoing).

Thanks Wm!


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
I agree with David. My immediate reaction to Don's post was identical - take 
advantage of the delete key and quit complaining. Glad this same suggestion 
came directly from the victim of your post.

The last thing we need is to annoy our gracious listserv administrator with 
this when he has bigger and more important issues to tackle so that everyone 
gets all posts.

To Charles - you are greatly appreciated and yet underappreciated. I thank you 
for all you do behind the scenes for Texas, NSS, and International cavers to 
have the ability to converse via these forums.

- from julia's cell

Julia Germany
germanyj@the dreaded AOL.comhttp://AOL.com

On Aug 22, 2014, at 22:42, Don Cooper via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

It's not that I don't care for you.
I just don't care for all the additional emails.;


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:31 PM, David via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

from David Locklear, so hit Delete Button now.

The funny thing about Don's post, is I consider him one of my best friends, 
which gives you an idea how many friends I have.

The solution to Don's predicament is for me to simply change my email name.

Surely you can see I have drastically cut back on the use of CaveTex, but that 
is mostly because I have been swamped doing things indirectly related to caving.

Today, I found an awesome water-color painting of Luray Caverns in an antique 
store near Houston.

   https://www.dropbox.com/s/pedrm248j11sqg4/Luray-Caverns.jpg?dl=0

Anybody know the history of this?   I have not found out if it is just a print, 
or an original water-color, but assuming just one of a print of thousands.


I think most of the cavers who were dissing me last year, are now over it, and 
we are still friends.  To the best of my knowledge only one caver is on my 
sh*t-list, and nobody I know has heard from him in years.  I would still go in 
a non-vertical cave with him though.  I am pretty sure everybody else accepted 
my olive-branch, and all the bad vibes are fuzzy memories from the past.

I am still digging thru booty, a retired caver gave me, and found a pair of 
grey Jumars.  These will hopefully end up as a door-prize at a caving event, in 
the near future.

Respectfully,

David Locklear
Semi-retired from arm-chair caving

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[Texascavers] your award

2014-08-23 Thread Logan McNatt via Texascavers

Charles wrote:
Oh, and for everyone else, I got a nice certificate of appreciation from our dearest president of the NSS, Wm Shrewsbury.  Guess he awarded it 
to me at convention after I had left.  Received it int he mail this week.  It was for my work on the NSS server migration earlier this year (and 
still ongoing).


Charles, Congratulations for a well-deserved award!  The behind-the-scenes time and effort you give to cavers is essential to our 
communications. Thank you.

Logan

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Re: [Texascavers] your award

2014-08-23 Thread Julie Jenkins via Texascavers
Charles, I want to personally thank you for the help you've extended to me w my 
Yahoo address issues. The award and congratulations are quite well deserved.
Jules

 On Aug 23, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Charles wrote:
 Oh, and for everyone else, I got a nice certificate of appreciation from our 
 dearest president of the NSS, Wm Shrewsbury.  Guess he awarded it to me at 
 convention after I had left.  Received it int he mail this week.  It was for 
 my work on the NSS server migration earlier this year (and still ongoing).
 
 Charles, Congratulations for a well-deserved award!  The behind-the-scenes 
 time and effort you give to cavers is essential to our communications. Thank 
 you.
Logan
 
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[Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

2014-08-23 Thread Geary Schindel via Texascavers
Folks,


I just wanted to send out a STRONG reminder about the Bexar Grotto Party for 
Chris Lafferty. Chris is a chemical engineer and will be on a temporary duty 
assignment for up to 6 months in the San Francisco area. He recently moved from 
Houston to San Antonio and has become a active and important member of the 
grotto. However, being an engineer, he suffers from Engineer personality 
Disorder (EpD) or commonly referred to as ED. And because of that, doesn't have 
many (any) friends. (it's also okay to talk about it in front of him as he has 
no clue we're talking about him and will actually join in the conversation 
about the poor dwebe). So, Sue and I are concerned that we're going to throw a 
party and no one is going to show up. That means we'll end up having to talk to 
Chris BY OURSELVES all night long (think of hanging out with Sheldon Cooper). 
After that, we'll probably have a personality disorder (or a bigger one).


However, the party also offers a great opportunity for a social experiment. 
Chris is going to San Francisco as an engineer but what will he come back as (I 
assume with flowers in his hair - for you social illiterates, that's a 
reference to a 60's rock song). You can get a glimpse of Chris and and compare 
it to the future Chris. We can throw another party when he gets back and 
compare notes. So, make sure you bring your cell phones and we'll video archive 
the party.


For those of you in the S.F. area, please be kind to this gentle soul, take him 
caving and show him a good time but we DO want him back - though maybe changed 
some. Frank B., maybe you could arrange to take him to the Folsom Street Fair, 
that ought to weird him up a little bit.


If' you've gotten this far and still want to come, it's open to cavers, and the 
friend of Chris'. It starts at 5 pm tonight (Saturday) at Geary and Sue 
Schindel's, 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio. 78230. Phone is 210.479.2151. It's 
pot luck and we'll have some burgers and dogs on the grill. Also, we've 
reinstated the ban of climbing on the roof.


For those that haven't RSVPed, please send a note or call so we have a rough 
head count (it will help calm our fears of being alone with him).


Feel free to roast Chris a little on Texas Cavers if you like.


Geary
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Re: [Texascavers] Replies to various post

2014-08-23 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers
Friend David,
I don't have much interest in caving light reviews but we are still furniture 
moving buddies. June and I hope to see you at TCR. Fritz

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:31 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 from David Locklear, so hit Delete Button now.
 
 The funny thing about Don's post, is I consider him one of my best friends, 
 which gives you an idea how many friends I have.
 
 The solution to Don's predicament is for me to simply change my email name. 
 
 Surely you can see I have drastically cut back on the use of CaveTex, but 
 that is mostly because I have been swamped doing things indirectly related to 
 caving.
 
 Today, I found an awesome water-color painting of Luray Caverns in an antique 
 store near Houston.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pedrm248j11sqg4/Luray-Caverns.jpg?dl=0
 
 Anybody know the history of this?   I have not found out if it is just a 
 print, or an original water-color, but assuming just one of a print of 
 thousands.
 
 
 I think most of the cavers who were dissing me last year, are now over it, 
 and we are still friends.  To the best of my knowledge only one caver is on 
 my sh*t-list, and nobody I know has heard from him in years.  I would still 
 go in a non-vertical cave with him though.  I am pretty sure everybody else 
 accepted my olive-branch, and all the bad vibes are fuzzy memories from the 
 past.
 I am still digging thru booty, a retired caver gave me, and found a pair of 
 grey Jumars.  These will hopefully end up as a door-prize at a caving event, 
 in the near future. 
 
 Respectfully,
 
 David Locklear
 Semi-retired from arm-chair caving
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Re: [Texascavers] Replies to various post

2014-08-23 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers
Julia,
I regularly see your beautiful face on Facebook although I  not on it. Hope to 
see it in person at TCR. Fritz

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 22, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I agree with David. My immediate reaction to Don's post was identical - take 
 advantage of the delete key and quit complaining. Glad this same suggestion 
 came directly from the victim of your post.
 
 The last thing we need is to annoy our gracious listserv administrator with 
 this when he has bigger and more important issues to tackle so that everyone 
 gets all posts.
 
 To Charles - you are greatly appreciated and yet underappreciated. I thank 
 you for all you do behind the scenes for Texas, NSS, and International cavers 
 to have the ability to converse via these forums.
 
 - from julia's cell
 
 Julia Germany
 germanyj@the dreaded AOL.com
 
 On Aug 22, 2014, at 22:42, Don Cooper via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 It's not that I don't care for you.
 I just don't care for all the additional emails.;
 
 
 On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:31 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 from David Locklear, so hit Delete Button now.
 
 The funny thing about Don's post, is I consider him one of my best friends, 
 which gives you an idea how many friends I have.
 
 The solution to Don's predicament is for me to simply change my email name. 
 
 Surely you can see I have drastically cut back on the use of CaveTex, but 
 that is mostly because I have been swamped doing things indirectly related 
 to caving.
 
 Today, I found an awesome water-color painting of Luray Caverns in an 
 antique store near Houston.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pedrm248j11sqg4/Luray-Caverns.jpg?dl=0
 
 Anybody know the history of this?   I have not found out if it is just a 
 print, or an original water-color, but assuming just one of a print of 
 thousands.
 
 
 I think most of the cavers who were dissing me last year, are now over it, 
 and we are still friends.  To the best of my knowledge only one caver is on 
 my sh*t-list, and nobody I know has heard from him in years.  I would still 
 go in a non-vertical cave with him though.  I am pretty sure everybody else 
 accepted my olive-branch, and all the bad vibes are fuzzy memories from the 
 past.
 I am still digging thru booty, a retired caver gave me, and found a pair of 
 grey Jumars.  These will hopefully end up as a door-prize at a caving 
 event, in the near future. 
 
 Respectfully,
 
 David Locklear
 Semi-retired from arm-chair caving
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

2014-08-23 Thread Geary Schindel via Texascavers
Im getting some irate emails from the Houston folks about the party post. Now 
that we see the value in Chris, they want him back. Well, no can do. we stole 
him fair and square. However, if you have something to trade of equal or 
greater value, we may consider. Maybe a rookie card of Ed Brinkman who used to 
play for the Washington Senators (that fact that it's so obscure is what makes 
it valuable (in some eyes)) or maybe a used vacuum cleaner or toaster oven that 
some small repairs.


We can talk.


Geary


From: bexargro...@googlegroups.com bexargro...@googlegroups.com on behalf of 
Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:22 AM
To: bexargro...@googlegroups.com; benn...@bennettlee.com; Texas Cavers
Cc: Chris Lafferty
Subject: [BexarGrotto] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 
pm.


Folks,


I just wanted to send out a STRONG reminder about the Bexar Grotto Party for 
Chris Lafferty. Chris is a chemical engineer and will be on a temporary duty 
assignment for up to 6 months in the San Francisco area. He recently moved from 
Houston to San Antonio and has become a active and important member of the 
grotto. However, being an engineer, he suffers from Engineer personality 
Disorder (EpD) or commonly referred to as ED. And because of that, doesn't have 
many (any) friends. (it's also okay to talk about it in front of him as he has 
no clue we're talking about him and will actually join in the conversation 
about the poor dwebe). So, Sue and I are concerned that we're going to throw a 
party and no one is going to show up. That means we'll end up having to talk to 
Chris BY OURSELVES all night long (think of hanging out with Sheldon Cooper). 
After that, we'll probably have a personality disorder (or a bigger one).


However, the party also offers a great opportunity for a social experiment. 
Chris is going to San Francisco as an engineer but what will he come back as (I 
assume with flowers in his hair - for you social illiterates, that's a 
reference to a 60's rock song). You can get a glimpse of Chris and and compare 
it to the future Chris. We can throw another party when he gets back and 
compare notes. So, make sure you bring your cell phones and we'll video archive 
the party.


For those of you in the S.F. area, please be kind to this gentle soul, take him 
caving and show him a good time but we DO want him back - though maybe changed 
some. Frank B., maybe you could arrange to take him to the Folsom Street Fair, 
that ought to weird him up a little bit.


If' you've gotten this far and still want to come, it's open to cavers, and the 
friend of Chris'. It starts at 5 pm tonight (Saturday) at Geary and Sue 
Schindel's, 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio. 78230. Phone is 210.479.2151. It's 
pot luck and we'll have some burgers and dogs on the grill. Also, we've 
reinstated the ban of climbing on the roof.


For those that haven't RSVPed, please send a note or call so we have a rough 
head count (it will help calm our fears of being alone with him).


Feel free to roast Chris a little on Texas Cavers if you like.


Geary

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Re: [Texascavers] your award

2014-08-23 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Julie Jenkins via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Charles, I want to personally thank you for the help you've extended to me
 w my Yahoo address issues. The award and congratulations are quite well
 deserved.
 Jules

  On Aug 23, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  Charles wrote:
  Oh, and for everyone else, I got a nice certificate of appreciation from
 our dearest president of the NSS, Wm Shrewsbury.  Guess he awarded it to me
 at convention after I had left.  Received it int he mail this week.  It was
 for my work on the NSS server migration earlier this year (and still
 ongoing).
 
  Charles, Congratulations for a well-deserved award!  The
 behind-the-scenes time and effort you give to cavers is essential to our
 communications. Thank you.
 Logan
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

2014-08-23 Thread caverarch via Texascavers
Yeah, we in the Greater Houston Grotto greatly resent Bexar making off with 
Chris, but at least we still get to meet up with him for trips in the area.  
But now he's off to San Francisco?  And Frank is requested to weird-up this 
Aggie engineer? That's going too far, maybe.


Have a great party and a fine project in SF, Chris!


Roger Moore






 
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Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

2014-08-23 Thread Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers
We had a hard time letting Chris go, so we kept some of him in Houston by
making sure he left all his belongings here before he moved to SA. All his
gear is still in Houston, somewhere on Craig's list.


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM, caverarch via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Yeah, we in the Greater Houston Grotto greatly resent Bexar making off
 with Chris, but at least we still get to meet up with him for trips in the
 area.  But now he's off to San Francisco?  And Frank is requested to
 weird-up this Aggie engineer? That's going too far, maybe.

  Have a great party and a fine project in SF, Chris!

 Roger Moore



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Re: [Texascavers] Chris Lafferty in San Francisco

2014-08-23 Thread Frank Binney via Texascavers
Hey Geary‹
Tell Chris to drop me a line after he arrives in San Francisco (see contact
info below). I lead frequent hikes out at Point Reyes National Seashore and
would enjoy having him join us. We also do an occasional sea cave trip when
the tides cooperate.
And for real caving, the San Francisco area features three grottos: Diablo
Grotto, SFBay Chapter and Redwood Grotto. A really quick way to connect with
a lot of cavers from all three grottos would be for Chris to attend to
attend the Western Regional Sept 19-21.  See details and contact info below
(Unfortunately I won¹t be there as I¹m hiking the Zion Narrows that
weekend).
See everyone at TCR,
Frank

Frank Binney
Frank Binney  Associates
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P.O. Box 258
Woodacre, CA 94973
415.488.1200 Voice
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Here¹s Western Regional info:

 From: Jessica V j.prairie...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:38 AM
 Subject: Western Regional Cave Convention - announcement with website
 
 
 Hello all!
 
 The Western Regional Cave Convention We Rock is September 19-21 in
 Columbia, northern California. There are many activities inside and outside
 of caves! Online registration is now open.
 http://westernregional.weebly.com/
 
 Great seminars and caving, including vertical. Full facilities include
 camping, RV hook-up, cabins, showers, wifi, and swimming pool, so perfect
 for families and avid technical cavers. Evening activities include movies
 and a band. T-shirts and tanktops are just 2 for $30 through September 1.
 
 Please pass this on to your grottos and to anyone else who would like to
 attend!
 
 Best,
 
 Mary Rose  Jessica Sevrin
 Redwood Grotto
 

From:  Texas Cavers Texascavers@texascavers.com
Reply-To:  Texas Cavers Texascavers@texascavers.com
Date:  Saturday, August 23, 2014 at 9:22 AM
To:  bexargro...@googlegroups.com bexargro...@googlegroups.com,
benn...@bennettlee.com benn...@bennettlee.com, Texas Cavers
Texascavers@texascavers.com
Cc:  Chris Lafferty chris.laffer...@gmail.com
Subject:  [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday
at 5 pm.

Folks,



I just wanted to send out a STRONG reminder about the Bexar Grotto Party for
Chris Lafferty. Chris is a chemical engineer and will be on a temporary duty
assignment for up to 6 months in the San Francisco area. He recently moved
from Houston to San Antonio and has become a active and important member of
the grotto. However, being an engineer, he suffers from Engineer personality
Disorder (EpD) or commonly referred to as ED. And because of that, doesn't
have many (any) friends. (it's also okay to talk about it in front of him as
he has no clue we're talking about him and will actually join in the
conversation about the poor dwebe). So, Sue and I are concerned that we're
going to throw a party and no one is going to show up. That means we'll end
up having to talk to Chris BY OURSELVES all night long (think of hanging out
with Sheldon Cooper). After that, we'll probably have a personality disorder
(or a bigger one). 



However, the party also offers a great opportunity for a social experiment.
Chris is going to San Francisco as an engineer but what will he come back as
(I assume with flowers in his hair - for you social illiterates, that's a
reference to a 60's rock song). You can get a glimpse of Chris and and
compare it to the future Chris. We can throw another party when he gets back
and compare notes. So, make sure you bring your cell phones and we'll video
archive the party. 



For those of you in the S.F. area, please be kind to this gentle soul, take
him caving and show him a good time but we DO want him back - though maybe
changed some. Frank B., maybe you could arrange to take him to the Folsom
Street Fair, that ought to weird him up a little bit.



If' you've gotten this far and still want to come, it's open to cavers, and
the friend of Chris'. It starts at 5 pm tonight (Saturday) at Geary and Sue
Schindel's, 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio. 78230. Phone is 210.479.2151.
It's pot luck and we'll have some burgers and dogs on the grill. Also, we've
reinstated the ban of climbing on the roof.



For those that haven't RSVPed, please send a note or call so we have a rough
head count (it will help calm our fears of being alone with him).



Feel free to roast Chris a little on Texas Cavers if you like.



Geary
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Re: [Texascavers] Replies to various post

2014-08-23 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp via Texascavers
Congratulations! Keep up the great work!

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 22, 2014, at 11:17 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Julia! 
 
 David, people can't filter on emails anymore here, because all emails come 
 from texascavers@texascavers.com
 
 That's what I had to change to keep things moving around here.  It displays 
 your name with some magical trickery, but your email is no longer listed in 
 the headers of the email.
 
 Oh, and for everyone else, I got a nice certificate of appreciation from our 
 dearest president of the NSS, Wm Shrewsbury.  Guess he awarded it to me at 
 convention after I had left.  Received it int he mail this week.  It was for 
 my work on the NSS server migration earlier this year (and still ongoing).
 
 Thanks Wm!
 
 
 On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 I agree with David. My immediate reaction to Don's post was identical - take 
 advantage of the delete key and quit complaining. Glad this same suggestion 
 came directly from the victim of your post.
 
 The last thing we need is to annoy our gracious listserv administrator with 
 this when he has bigger and more important issues to tackle so that everyone 
 gets all posts.
 
 To Charles - you are greatly appreciated and yet underappreciated. I thank 
 you for all you do behind the scenes for Texas, NSS, and International 
 cavers to have the ability to converse via these forums.
 
 - from julia's cell
 
 Julia Germany
 germanyj@the dreaded AOL.com
 
 On Aug 22, 2014, at 22:42, Don Cooper via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 It's not that I don't care for you.
 I just don't care for all the additional emails.;
 
 
 On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:31 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 from David Locklear, so hit Delete Button now.
 
 The funny thing about Don's post, is I consider him one of my best 
 friends, which gives you an idea how many friends I have.
 
 The solution to Don's predicament is for me to simply change my email 
 name. 
 
 Surely you can see I have drastically cut back on the use of CaveTex, but 
 that is mostly because I have been swamped doing things indirectly related 
 to caving.
 
 Today, I found an awesome water-color painting of Luray Caverns in an 
 antique store near Houston.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pedrm248j11sqg4/Luray-Caverns.jpg?dl=0
 
 Anybody know the history of this?   I have not found out if it is just a 
 print, or an original water-color, but assuming just one of a print of 
 thousands.
 
 
 I think most of the cavers who were dissing me last year, are now over it, 
 and we are still friends.  To the best of my knowledge only one caver is 
 on my sh*t-list, and nobody I know has heard from him in years.  I would 
 still go in a non-vertical cave with him though.  I am pretty sure 
 everybody else accepted my olive-branch, and all the bad vibes are fuzzy 
 memories from the past.
 I am still digging thru booty, a retired caver gave me, and found a pair 
 of grey Jumars.  These will hopefully end up as a door-prize at a caving 
 event, in the near future. 
 
 Respectfully,
 
 David Locklear
 Semi-retired from arm-chair caving
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Replies to various post

2014-08-23 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Cave lights? The holy carbide lamp comes to mind. They were the very best
and they added excitement to caving because they could explode and you
could use them to muck up walls with soot. There was one called the fool
light, which was a huge carbide light that had a huge reflector. And there
is the old ceiling burner. I always used matches to find my way and a
candle on a stick. Cave Carson and Karst Walker recommended. Sort of a
caver Betty Crocker.
I always read the reviews written by Bockbeer.


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Congratulations! Keep up the great work!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 22, 2014, at 11:17 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Thanks Julia!

 David, people can't filter on emails anymore here, because all emails come
 from texascavers@texascavers.com

 That's what I had to change to keep things moving around here.  It
 displays your name with some magical trickery, but your email is no longer
 listed in the headers of the email.

 Oh, and for everyone else, I got a nice certificate of appreciation from
 our dearest president of the NSS, Wm Shrewsbury.  Guess he awarded it to me
 at convention after I had left.  Received it int he mail this week.  It was
 for my work on the NSS server migration earlier this year (and still
 ongoing).

 Thanks Wm!


 On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 I agree with David. My immediate reaction to Don's post was identical -
 take advantage of the delete key and quit complaining. Glad this same
 suggestion came directly from the victim of your post.

 The last thing we need is to annoy our gracious listserv administrator
 with this when he has bigger and more important issues to tackle so that
 everyone gets all posts.

 To Charles - you are greatly appreciated and yet underappreciated. I
 thank you for all you do behind the scenes for Texas, NSS, and
 International cavers to have the ability to converse via these forums.

 - from julia's cell

 Julia Germany
 germanyj@the dreaded AOL.com

 On Aug 22, 2014, at 22:42, Don Cooper via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 It's not that I don't care for you.
 I just don't care for all the additional emails.;


 On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:31 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 from David Locklear, so hit Delete Button now.

 The funny thing about Don's post, is I consider him one of my best
 friends, which gives you an idea how many friends I have.

 The solution to Don's predicament is for me to simply change my email
 name.

 Surely you can see I have drastically cut back on the use of CaveTex,
 but that is mostly because I have been swamped doing things indirectly
 related to caving.

 Today, I found an awesome water-color painting of Luray Caverns in an
 antique store near Houston.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pedrm248j11sqg4/Luray-Caverns.jpg?dl=0

 Anybody know the history of this?   I have not found out if it is just a
 print, or an original water-color, but assuming just one of a print of
 thousands.

 I think most of the cavers who were dissing me last year, are now over
 it, and we are still friends.  To the best of my knowledge only one caver
 is on my sh*t-list, and nobody I know has heard from him in years.  I would
 still go in a non-vertical cave with him though.  I am pretty sure
 everybody else accepted my olive-branch, and all the bad vibes are fuzzy
 memories from the past.

 I am still digging thru booty, a retired caver gave me, and found a pair
 of grey Jumars.  These will hopefully end up as a door-prize at a caving
 event, in the near future.

 Respectfully,

 David Locklear
 Semi-retired from arm-chair caving

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Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

2014-08-23 Thread Chris Lafferty via Texascavers
Thanks for the compliments and friendly gibes. Roger, as a fellow alumnus
of my alma mater, you should know I'm no Aggie!

Lyndon, that's my way of giving back to the city of my first grotto :)
Years from now, some aspiring Houston caver will furnish himself with gear
of questionable history from a pawn shop.

Also, a used vacuum cleaner would be a terrible trade. They suck more than
I do.

Chris


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 We had a hard time letting Chris go, so we kept some of him in Houston by
 making sure he left all his belongings here before he moved to SA. All his
 gear is still in Houston, somewhere on Craig's list.


 On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM, caverarch via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Yeah, we in the Greater Houston Grotto greatly resent Bexar making off
 with Chris, but at least we still get to meet up with him for trips in the
 area.  But now he's off to San Francisco?  And Frank is requested to
 weird-up this Aggie engineer? That's going too far, maybe.

  Have a great party and a fine project in SF, Chris!

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Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

2014-08-23 Thread caverarch via Texascavers
Chris, I tell you, my memory is going fast... So sorry for the aspersion! (He's 
a Rice guy like me.)


 :-(


Roger



-Original Message-
From: Chris Lafferty via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
To: Texascavers Mailing List texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday 
at 5 pm.



Thanks for the compliments and friendly gibes. Roger, as a fellow alumnus of my 
alma mater, you should know I'm no Aggie!



Lyndon, that's my way of giving back to the city of my first grotto :) Years 
from now, some aspiring Houston caver will furnish himself with gear of 
questionable history from a pawn shop.



Also, a used vacuum cleaner would be a terrible trade. They suck more than I do.


Chris



On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

We had a hard time letting Chris go, so we kept some of him in Houston by 
making sure he left all his belongings here before he moved to SA. All his gear 
is still in Houston, somewhere on Craig's list.




On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM, caverarch via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:



Yeah, we in the Greater Houston Grotto greatly resent Bexar making off with 
Chris, but at least we still get to meet up with him for trips in the area.  
But now he's off to San Francisco?  And Frank is requested to weird-up this 
Aggie engineer? That's going too far, maybe.


Have a great party and a fine project in SF, Chris!


Roger Moore






 


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Re: [Texascavers] Replies to various post

2014-08-23 Thread C Tiderman via Texascavers
David,

I have the same watercolor hanging on my wall. I suspect we both have one of 
many prints that were probably sold at the gift shop in the '50's.

 
Carol



 From: David via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
To: CaveTex texascavers@texascavers.com 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 11:31 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Replies to various post
 


from David Locklear, so hit Delete Button now.
The funny thing about Don's post, is I consider him one of my best friends, 
which gives you an idea how many friends I have.
The solution to Don's predicament is for me to simply change my email name.  
Surely you can see I have drastically cut back on the use of CaveTex, but that 
is mostly because I have been swamped doing things indirectly related to caving.

Today, I found an awesome water-color painting of Luray Caverns in an antique 
store near Houston.
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/pedrm248j11sqg4/Luray-Caverns.jpg?dl=0
Anybody know the history of this?   I have not found out if it is just a print, 
or an original water-color, but assuming just one of a print of thousands.


I think most of the cavers who were dissing me last year, are now over it, and 
we are still friends.  To the best of my knowledge only one caver is on my 
sh*t-list, and nobody I know has heard from him in years.  I would still go in 
a non-vertical cave with him though.  I am pretty sure everybody else accepted 
my olive-branch, and all the bad vibes are fuzzy memories from the past.

I am still digging thru booty, a retired caver gave me, and found a pair of 
grey Jumars.  These will hopefully end up as a door-prize at a caving event, in 
the near future.  
Respectfully,
David Locklear
Semi-retired from arm-chair caving

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Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

2014-08-23 Thread Don Arburn via Texascavers
I'm not gonna make it after all, sorry. Chris, see you when you get back.

Don Arburn


--Don

 On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:20 PM, caverarch via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Chris, I tell you, my memory is going fast... So sorry for the aspersion! 
 (He's a Rice guy like me.)
 
  :-(
 
 Roger
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Lafferty via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 To: Texascavers Mailing List texascavers@texascavers.com
 Sent: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 1:13 pm
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's 
 Saturday at 5 pm.
 
 Thanks for the compliments and friendly gibes. Roger, as a fellow alumnus of 
 my alma mater, you should know I'm no Aggie!
 
 Lyndon, that's my way of giving back to the city of my first grotto :) Years 
 from now, some aspiring Houston caver will furnish himself with gear of 
 questionable history from a pawn shop.
 
 Also, a used vacuum cleaner would be a terrible trade. They suck more than I 
 do.
 
 Chris
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 We had a hard time letting Chris go, so we kept some of him in Houston by 
 making sure he left all his belongings here before he moved to SA. All his 
 gear is still in Houston, somewhere on Craig's list.
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM, caverarch via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Yeah, we in the Greater Houston Grotto greatly resent Bexar making off with 
 Chris, but at least we still get to meet up with him for trips in the area. 
  But now he's off to San Francisco?  And Frank is requested to weird-up 
 this Aggie engineer? That's going too far, maybe.
 
 Have a great party and a fine project in SF, Chris!
 
 Roger Moore
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Party for Chris Lafferty at the Schindel's Saturday at 5 pm.

2014-08-23 Thread Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers
'Bye, Chris,
Have a fantastic party and come back to us! Jacq.


Jacqui Thomas
jlrtho...@verizon.net


On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers wrote:

 Folks,
 
 I just wanted to send out a STRONG reminder about the Bexar Grotto Party for 
 Chris Lafferty. Chris is a chemical engineer and will be on a temporary 
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