[Texascavers] A cave drone video
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Re: [Texascavers] Cloud Room
Nico, I think you're right. The photo looks like something in the Birthday Passage, known for 30 years or more to Texans. It's a sporting and exposed climb to get up there, so maybe the coahuilense thought it hadn't been done. Hopefully they won't get credit for long, once someone points out the true history of the cave. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On Wed, December 17, 2014 10:00 pm, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers wrote: While browsing the news today I found an article on the El Norte website about in Grutas del Palmito aka Bustamante, said article talks about the new discoveries made in the cave by members of the asociacion coahuilense de espeleologia, or aceac using a drone to film upper levels of the cave and mentioned the uniqueness of the speleothems found in that newly found part of the cave The reason why Im using quotes is because the article features a prominent picture of the Cloud Room, and correct me if Im wrong but, hasnt that part of the cave been explored for decades? Heck, I was even there almost 10 years ago Looks like someone is taking undeserved credit here.. link to the article Descubren nuevos salones en grutas Félix Barrón Monterrey, México (17 diciembre 2014).- Una investigación realizada recientemente por especialistas de la Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología en las Grutas de Bustamante descubrió nuevos salones con formaciones únicas en el País. A través de un dron, que captó imágenes en la parte superior de las grutas, exploradas hasta ahora en un 10 por ciento, reveló espeleotemas que comprueban la antigüedad de la formación y su importancia. Tiene todo tipo de espeleotemas registrados, espeleotemas únicos en México y al aparecer en Latinoamérica, expresó en rueda de prensa Ana Gabriela Morales, presidenta de la Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología. Leer más: http://www.elnorte.com/aplicacioneslibre/preacceso/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027v=5urlredirect=http://www.elnorte.com/aplicaciones/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027v=5#ixzz3MDGsMFIL but its by subscription only ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Cloud Room
Just found the Texas Caver article about the Birthday Passage in Palmito (Bustamante), complete with map, thanks to Bill Mixon's list of Mexico items in TC at http://www.mexicancaves.org/library/TCbiblio.html. It was the January, 1970 issue, so it's been known for about 45 years. There's nothing on the map called the Cloud Room, although there is a Grapefruit Room. That's likely too far back for a drone to have reached, though. It's been too long since I was there to remember where else such formations might have been visible. Mark mmin...@caver.net On Thu, December 18, 2014 12:59 pm, Mark Minton via Texascavers wrote: Nico, I think you're right. The photo looks like something in the Birthday Passage, known for 30 years or more to Texans. It's a sporting and exposed climb to get up there, so maybe the coahuilense thought it hadn't been done. Hopefully they won't get credit for long, once someone points out the true history of the cave. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On Wed, December 17, 2014 10:00 pm, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers wrote: While browsing the news today I found an article on the El Norte website about in Grutas del Palmito aka Bustamante, said article talks about the new discoveries made in the cave by members of the asociacion coahuilense de espeleologia, or aceac using a drone to film upper levels of the cave and mentioned the uniqueness of the speleothems found in that newly found part of the cave The reason why Im using quotes is because the article features a prominent picture of the Cloud Room, and correct me if Im wrong but, hasnt that part of the cave been explored for decades? Heck, I was even there almost 10 years ago Looks like someone is taking undeserved credit here.. link to the article Descubren nuevos salones en grutas Félix Barrón Monterrey, México (17 diciembre 2014).- Una investigación realizada recientemente por especialistas de la Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología en las Grutas de Bustamante descubrió nuevos salones con formaciones únicas en el País. A través de un dron, que captó imágenes en la parte superior de las grutas, exploradas hasta ahora en un 10 por ciento, reveló espeleotemas que comprueban la antigüedad de la formación y su importancia. Tiene todo tipo de espeleotemas registrados, espeleotemas únicos en México y al aparecer en Latinoamérica, expresó en rueda de prensa Ana Gabriela Morales, presidenta de la Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología. Leer más: http://www.elnorte.com/aplicacioneslibre/preacceso/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027v=5urlredirect=http://www.elnorte.com/aplicaciones/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027v=5#ixzz3MDGsMFIL but its by subscription only ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Cloud Room
It would be hard to think that no one had been up to the Birthday Passage when at the top of the climb there's a hanger. And I'm sure that the Birthday Passage itself has tracks in the calcite sand. I believe Monica from the Asociacion Coahuilense is in this email list and maybe she will clarify? - Fofo On 18/12/2014, at 09:59, Mark Minton via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Nico, I think you're right. The photo looks like something in the Birthday Passage, known for 30 years or more to Texans. It's a sporting and exposed climb to get up there, so maybe the coahuilense thought it hadn't been done. Hopefully they won't get credit for long, once someone points out the true history of the cave. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On Wed, December 17, 2014 10:00 pm, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers wrote: While browsing the news today I found an article on the El Norte website about in Grutas del Palmito aka Bustamante, said article talks about the new discoveries made in the cave by members of the asociacion coahuilense de espeleologia, or aceac using a drone to film upper levels of the cave and mentioned the uniqueness of the speleothems found in that newly found part of the cave The reason why Im using quotes is because the article features a prominent picture of the Cloud Room, and correct me if Im wrong but, hasnt that part of the cave been explored for decades? Heck, I was even there almost 10 years ago Looks like someone is taking undeserved credit here.. link to the article Descubren nuevos salones en grutas Félix Barrón Monterrey, México (17 diciembre 2014).- Una investigación realizada recientemente por especialistas de la Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología en las Grutas de Bustamante descubrió nuevos salones con formaciones únicas en el País. A través de un dron, que captó imágenes en la parte superior de las grutas, exploradas hasta ahora en un 10 por ciento, reveló espeleotemas que comprueban la antigüedad de la formación y su importancia. Tiene todo tipo de espeleotemas registrados, espeleotemas únicos en México y al aparecer en Latinoamérica, expresó en rueda de prensa Ana Gabriela Morales, presidenta de la Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología. Leer más: http://www.elnorte.com/aplicacioneslibre/preacceso/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027v=5urlredirect=http://www.elnorte.com/aplicaciones/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027v=5#ixzz3MDGsMFIL but its by subscription only ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Cloud Room
Someone in my friends list shared the link on fb as well, and I saw a comment from an aceac member who claimed to have discovered that room.. what a tool! Following their logic I must have discovered it back in 2006 too Mark, I believe the grapefruit room and the cloud room are the same, the name seems to be interchangeable.. Be it as it may, these people are getting media attention and glory for something they did not actually scoop, and to me thats just wrong and unethical caving practice El dic 18, 2014 12:25 PM, Fofo via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com escribió: It would be hard to think that no one had been up to the Birthday Passage when at the top of the climb there's a hanger. And I'm sure that the Birthday Passage itself has tracks in the calcite sand. I believe Monica from the Asociacion Coahuilense is in this email list and maybe she will clarify? - Fofo On 18/12/2014, at 09:59, Mark Minton via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Nico, I think you're right. The photo looks like something in the Birthday Passage, known for 30 years or more to Texans. It's a sporting and exposed climb to get up there, so maybe the coahuilense thought it hadn't been done. Hopefully they won't get credit for long, once someone points out the true history of the cave. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On Wed, December 17, 2014 10:00 pm, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers wrote: While browsing the news today I found an article on the El Norte website about in Grutas del Palmito aka Bustamante, said article talks about the new discoveries made in the cave by members of the asociacion coahuilense de espeleologia, or aceac using a drone to film upper levels of the cave and mentioned the uniqueness of the speleothems found in that newly found part of the cave The reason why Im using quotes is because the article features a prominent picture of the Cloud Room, and correct me if Im wrong but, hasnt that part of the cave been explored for decades? Heck, I was even there almost 10 years ago Looks like someone is taking undeserved credit here.. link to the article Descubren nuevos salones en grutas Félix Barrón Monterrey, México (17 diciembre 2014).- Una investigación realizada recientemente por especialistas de la Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología en las Grutas de Bustamante descubrió nuevos salones con formaciones únicas en el País. A través de un dron, que captó imágenes en la parte superior de las grutas, exploradas hasta ahora en un 10 por ciento, reveló espeleotemas que comprueban la antigüedad de la formación y su importancia. Tiene todo tipo de espeleotemas registrados, espeleotemas únicos en México y al aparecer en Latinoamérica, expresó en rueda de prensa Ana Gabriela Morales, presidenta de la Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología. Leer más: http://www.elnorte.com/aplicacioneslibre/preacceso/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027v=5urlredirect=http://www.elnorte.com/aplicaciones/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027v=5#ixzz3MDGsMFIL but its by subscription only ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Fwd: [NSSwest] Bat Animation Informational Video
This has showed up on a couple of remailers and it's definitely worth watching. Jacqui Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net From NSS West Amy Wray (M.A., Columbia Univ), put together this excellent informational video/cartoon about bats, disease, and their ecosystem services. I’m very impressed by this, when you have 5 min please check it out and feel free to distribute widely! She touches on a lot of important issues in a very accessible way, including White Nose Syndrome! I'm Batman - Amy Wray I'm Batman - Amy Wray What flies through the night, silently guarding and protecting our world from evil? Batman? Try...a bat. Like Batman, bats are widely misunderstood and vi... View on ed.ted.com Preview by Yahoo __._,_.___ Posted by: claudek...@earthlink.net Reply via web post•Reply to sender •Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) -- Coming Events: July 13-17, 2015 NSS National Convention - Waynesville, Missouri nss2015.caves.org October 9-11, 2015 Western Regional Weekend - near Joshua Tree Town, CA Hosted by Desert Dog Troglodytes July, 2016 75th Anniversary Convention - National Speleological Society NSS Annual Convention - Ely, Nevada! nss2016.caves.org - www.facebook.com/nss75th VISIT YOUR GROUP • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
