Just found the Texas Caver article about the Birthday Passage in Palmito (Bustamante), complete with map, thanks to Bill Mixon's list of Mexico items in TC at <http://www.mexicancaves.org/library/TCbiblio.html>. It was the January, 1970 issue, so it's been known for about 45 years. There's nothing on the map called the Cloud Room, although there is a Grapefruit Room. That's likely too far back for a drone to have reached, though. It's been too long since I was there to remember where else such formations might have been visible.
Mark mmin...@caver.net On Thu, December 18, 2014 12:59 pm, Mark Minton via Texascavers wrote: > Nico, > > I think you're right. The photo looks like something in the Birthday > Passage, known for 30 years or more to Texans. It's a sporting and > exposed climb to get up there, so maybe the coahuilense thought it > hadn't been done. Hopefully they won't get credit for long, once > someone points out the true history of the cave. > > Mark Minton > mmin...@caver.net > >On Wed, December 17, 2014 10:00 pm, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers wrote: >> While browsing the news today I found an article on the El Norte website >> about in Grutas del Palmito aka Bustamante, said article talks about the >> "new discoveries" made in the cave by members of the asociacion coahuilense >> de espeleologia, or aceac using a drone to film upper levels of the cave >> and mentioned the uniqueness of the speleothems found in that "newly found >> part of the cave" >> >> The reason why Im using quotes is because the article features a prominent >> picture of the Cloud Room, and correct me if Im wrong but, hasnt that part >> of the cave been explored for decades? Heck, I was even there almost 10 >> years ago!!!! >> >> Looks like someone is taking undeserved credit here.. >> >> link to the article <Descubren nuevos salones en grutas Félix Barrón >> Monterrey, México (17 diciembre 2014).- Una investigación realizada >> recientemente por especialistas de la Asociación Coahuilense de >> Espeleología en las Grutas de Bustamante descubrió nuevos salones con >> formaciones únicas en el País. A través de un dron, que captó >> imágenes en >> la parte superior de las grutas, exploradas hasta ahora en un 10 por >> ciento, reveló espeleotemas que comprueban la antigüedad de la >> formación y >> su importancia. "Tiene todo tipo de espeleotemas registrados, espeleotemas >> únicos en México y al aparecer en Latinoamérica", expresó en rueda de >> prensa Ana Gabriela Morales, presidenta de la Asociación Coahuilense de >> Espeleología. Leer más: >> http://www.elnorte.com/aplicacioneslibre/preacceso/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027&v=5&urlredirect=http://www.elnorte.com/aplicaciones/articulo/default.aspx?id=421027&v=5#ixzz3MDGsMFIL> >> but its by subscription only _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers