Re: [Texascavers] Chili Challange - OFF TOPIC

[via Texascavers]

Charlie: 

It was between two newspaper columnists: Francis X. Talbert of Dallas and H. 
Allen Smith of New York. Talbert got Wick Fowler to cook for him. David Witts 
(Dallas attorney) and Carol Shelby (race car mogul) had just purchased a lot of 
land (which was the seed for the Terlingua Ranch development) which also 
included the Ghost Town. Shelby's son-in-law later started Chili's restaurant 
chain. In the Albuquerque restaurant you can see a picture on the wall of Sandy 
and two little blond kids - Craig and Tara Deal. 

The first couple of years it was a big joke. In 1967 and 1968 it was a draw. 
First year because the chili burned out the taste buds of the deciding judge 
(Witts) and the second year masked riders with drawn six-guns rode in and stole 
the ballot box before they could be counted. 

Sandy and I played a significant behind-the-scenes role during the first dozen 
years in the 70s and know what happened here in Terlingua. The bickering in 
Dallas, Houston, and California resulted in THREE factions, in which people now 
actually want to be judged the "best" chili cook. There is also now a LOT of 
money involved, and the proceeds provide important support of the Terlingua 
School and emergency services in the Big Bend. 

DirtDoc 


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From: "Charles Loving via Texascavers"  
To: "Cavers Texas"  
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:38:31 PM 
Subject: [Texascavers] Terlingua 

Once upon a time there were two guys that decided to face off in a chili 
challenge Wick Fowler was one (owned Two Aarm in Austin) and his friend whose 
name escapes me. They were the only two there. I was there as were a lot of 
others and it was fun. Now it has turned into some sort of bull shit with two 
factions. 

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Re: [Texascavers] Chili Challange - OFF TOPIC

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

*I went to the first one with Wick's son Gordon and Shorty Fry. Francis X.
Tolbert was the inspiration for the laughing contest at Luckenbach. I
inherited all the garbage cans from the chili factory. *

*As years passed the factions got their drawers in a knot. I judged quite a
few events with Cactus and Walley Pryor. There was Chiiipiad in San Marcos
for years out at the aeropuerto. Those were fun indeed but I got syphoned
away to the BBQ cook off world which was better eating. The Taylor
International was really great. I was teamed with Ed Giunn, Wally Pryor,
then county judge John Carter now congressman, Guich Cook and the guy who
played the Virginian on the tele. *

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Charlie:
>
> It was between two newspaper columnists:  Francis X. Talbert of Dallas and
> H. Allen Smith of New York.  Talbert got Wick Fowler to cook for him. David
> Witts (Dallas attorney) and Carol Shelby (race car mogul) had just
> purchased a lot of land (which was the seed for the Terlingua Ranch
> development) which also included the Ghost Town.  Shelby's son-in-law later
> started Chili's restaurant chain. In the Albuquerque restaurant you can see
> a picture on the wall of Sandy and two little blond kids - Craig and Tara
> Deal.
>
> The first couple of years it was a big joke. In 1967 and 1968 it was a
> draw. First year because the chili burned out the taste buds of the
> deciding judge (Witts) and the second year masked riders with drawn
> six-guns rode in and stole the ballot box before they could be counted.
>
> Sandy and I played a significant behind-the-scenes role during the first
> dozen years in the 70s and know what happened here in Terlingua.  The
> bickering in Dallas, Houston, and California resulted in THREE factions, in
> which people now actually want to be judged the "best" chili cook.  There
> is also now a LOT of money involved, and the proceeds provide important
> support of the Terlingua School and emergency services in the Big Bend.
>
> DirtDoc
>
>
> --
> *From: *"Charles Loving via Texascavers" 
> *To: *"Cavers Texas" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:38:31 PM
> *Subject: *[Texascavers] Terlingua
>
> Once upon a time there were two guys that decided to face off in a chili
> challenge Wick Fowler was one (owned Two Aarm in Austin) and his friend
>  whose name escapes me. They were the only two there. I was there as were a
> lot of others and it was fun. Now it has turned into some sort of bull shit
> with two factions.
>
> --
> Charlie Loving
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Re: [Texascavers] Pedro Elizaldi

[Linda Palit via Texascavers]

Don Pedro was a great friend of Texas Caver while we explored the mines and
caves around Minas Viejos.  I am saddened to hear he has passed, and send
condolences to his family.
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[Texascavers] TSA magazine

[Jill Orr via Texascavers]

The current issue of the TSA magazine is available online. Issues were
passed out at the TSA convention this past weekend and those not attending
will be mailed or passed out at your grotto meeting if you regularly attend.

 

 

jill orr 

graphic design

210.931-4633

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[Texascavers] anonymous posts

[Mixon Bill via Texascavers]

I've just gotten 5 messages on the Texas Cavers list about the death of Pedro, 
3 of which were anonymous. Also 6 messages about the chili cook-offs in 
Terlingua, 3 of which were anonymous. Looks very much like people have 
forgotten that Texas Cavers list-serve no longer identifies the senders 
automatically. It would be nice if people appended a signature containing both 
their names (and not just first names) and their e-mail addresses; your e-mail 
program will be happy to do that for you automatically, if you are 
memory-challenged. It might also cut down the number of personal responses that 
get sent to the whole list. -- Mixon

The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it.

You may "reply" to the address this message
(unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
came from, but for long-term use, save:
Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org

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Re: [Texascavers] anonymous posts

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

Interesting stuff even if it has  nothing to do with caves. I like it.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> I've just gotten 5 messages on the Texas Cavers list about the death of
> Pedro, 3 of which were anonymous. Also 6 messages about the chili cook-offs
> in Terlingua, 3 of which were anonymous. Looks very much like people have
> forgotten that Texas Cavers list-serve no longer identifies the senders
> automatically. It would be nice if people appended a signature containing
> both their names (and not just first names) and their e-mail addresses;
> your e-mail program will be happy to do that for you automatically, if you
> are memory-challenged. It might also cut down the number of personal
> responses that get sent to the whole list. -- Mixon
> 
> The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it.
> 
> You may "reply" to the address this message
> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post)
> came from, but for long-term use, save:
> Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
> AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org
>
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[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project

[Marvin Miller via Texascavers]

Cavers,

The final project date of the season for the Government Canyon Karst
Project will be on May 16 and 17. There are interesting digs to pursue and
caves to survey and many caves waiting to be found. We will meet at 9:00
both mornings in the parking lot of the Volunteer/Research Station. To get
there enter the park at the main gate. Take the first right and go through
the unlocked gate, closing it behind you. Continue for about 1 mile to the
VRS.

A note of caution: Galm Rd. to the park entrance is under construction and
the 30 mph speed limit is vigorously enforced.

Camping is available. Contact me for details.

Marvin Miller
(210) 415-5190
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