Re: [Texascavers] not Loose at all

[Dwight via Texascavers]

Ah yes!. Rich was NOT loose! 

DirtDoc 


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From: "Linda Starr"  
To: "Logan McNatt"  
Cc: "Lee H. Skinner" , "New Mexico Cavers" 
, "Texas Cavers"  
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:20:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [SWR CAVERS] Indiana University freshman found after surviving 
three days in a cave 

I remember an incident many years ago in the '70s, my first trip to Fort 
Stanton Cave, maybe, where we locked one of our cavers in the cave. We didn't 
go anywhere and were all camped at the cave when we noticed Rich Loose was not 
with us. We hollered for him with no answer and went to the cave and there he 
was at the gate, slightly disgruntled. This was a different situation with a 
supervised youth group. It sounds like a major screw-up in the leadership. 

Linda Starr 
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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Indiana University freshman found after surviving three days in a cave

[Nancy Weaver via Texascavers]

wasn’t someone left behind at honey creek a couple years ago?  stranded at the 
shaft entrance
Nancy

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Lee. Does anyone know of a similar incident like this where someone 
> has been inadvertently locked inside a cave?
> Ironic that his name is Cavar.

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[Texascavers] count your cavers..

[Albach via Texascavers]

http://www.statesman.com/news/indiana-man-locked-cave-for-hours-forgotten-group/UPMCcTjrwexkXldOySgOcI/

-Robert

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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Indiana University freshman found after surviving three days in a cave

[Logan McNatt via Texascavers]

  
  
Thanks Lee. Does anyone know of a similar incident like this where
someone has been inadvertently locked inside a cave?
Ironic that his name is Cavar.

Logan McNatt

On 9/22/2017 1:25 PM, Lee H. Skinner
  wrote:

http://www.idsnews.com/article/2017/09/iu-freshman-found-after-surviving-three-days-in-a-cave
  
  
  
  Lee Skinner
  
  


  

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[Texascavers] Indiana University freshman found after surviving three days in a cave

[Lee H. Skinner via Texascavers]

http://www.idsnews.com/article/2017/09/iu-freshman-found-after-surviving-three-days-in-a-cave


Lee Skinner

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Re: [Texascavers] "Drone" use in Mexico cave hunting

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

How do male bees find caves?

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Terry Holsinger via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> A short PSA for those cavers going/caving in Mexico and looking at using a
> Drone while in country.
>
> Reading a recent page about "Drone laws by country" I noted that the
> recreational use of a drone in Mexico is RESTRICTED for foreigners.
>
> I.E. it is illegal for foreigner to use a drone without a permit.
>
> There is little to no enforcement of this BUT IF the authorities decided
> to, they can legally take your drone and fine/jail you.
>
> Going a little deeper and looking for a bit more information I found the
> following discussion of this matter, here lifted from a drone flyers forum:
>
> "The Mexican regulation does not allow giving a permit to fly a Foreign
> Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems (RPAS) drone in Mexico. This prohibition
> is established in Circular Obligatoria CO AV-23/10 R3 paragraph 7.2.y). For
> your information the Circular Obligatoria aforementioned establishes the
> requirements and limitations to operate RPAS in Mexican airspace and it is
> in Spanish only. If you want, you could obtain a copy of the Circular
> Obligatoria in the following link:
>
> http://www.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/DireccionesGrales/DGAC-
> archivo/modulo3/co-av-23-10-r3.pdf
>
> A direct question of so it IS illegal for any US citizen to operate a
> drone in Mexico:
>
> His first reply:
>
> "It is correct, it is not possible to grant authorization for pilots and
> US companies to provide services to Drones to Mexico, until there is a
> bilateral agreement where the rules for their acceptance are established
> for both countries."​
>
> I asked if this applied to both commercial and rec fliers; he replied: '
>
> "Is correct, it that applies to both commercial & recreational fliers, and
> so is necessary obtain Bilateral Agreement between FAA and DGAC, for
> established the conditions and limitations for do it."​
>
>
> BTW these reply's came from this guy:
>
> ng. Pablo Carranza Plata.
> Director General AdjuntO de Aviación
> DIRECCION GENERAL DE AERONAUTICA CIVIL
> Tels. (+52 55) 5723-9300 / 5482-4100 Ext. 18070,
> Blvd. Adolfo López Mateos 1990, 2º piso
> 
> Col. Los Alpes Tlacopac, Del. Álvaro Obregón,
> C.P. 01010, en México, D. F.​"
>
> Original page link:
>
> https://petapixel.com/2017/09/20/heres-map-date-drone-laws-every-country/
>
> forums thread link:
>
> https://phantompilots.com/threads/flying-in-mexico-prohibite
> d-for-americans.104976/
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-- 
Charlie Loving
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