Re: [Texascavers] Convention Campground

[Steve Keselik]

Have your bit coins ready, some “ friends “will be there shortly unless you 
have icy cold Federmins and vodka, they my settle for that. I’m so glad you 
made it David and am glad you have a little time to connect! I you do something 
I wouldn’t do please name it after me!

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> On Jun 16, 2019, at 8:36 PM, David  wrote:
> 
> Please pass the word
> 
> Room 109
> America's Best Value Inn
> 
> 1/4 mile from campground
> 
> Room is nasty, but has floor-space and love-seat folds to a bed.
> 
> I have it for tonight and Monday
> 
> Bang on door loud, as I will be unconscious till about 9 a.m..
> 
> David Locklear
> 346-801-4962
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Re: [Texascavers] Groad Hollow

[Steve Keselik]

Lenard Cohen?

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> On Jun 16, 2019, at 8:25 PM, Barb  wrote:
> 
> Larry Cohen is an actual person - why is he in quotes? 
> ps tell him I said hi.
> Barb Coons
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2019, at 6:47 PM, David  wrote:
>> 
>> Typo
>> 
>> Rune Burnett
>> 
>> Blake Harrison and Dominique are here.
>> 
>> Mark Gee just got her telling everybody how wonderful The Geology Field trip 
>> was.
>> 
>> Old-timer, " Larry Cohen." just showed up.
>> 
>> The Nashville Grotto has a cool bar set up.   There will be a pre-convention 
>> pub-style gathering there tonight.
>> 
>> Cavers here are reminiscing / chattering about Bill Mixon.
>> 
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[Texascavers] Convention Campground

[David]

Please pass the word

Room 109
America's Best Value Inn

1/4 mile from campground

Room is nasty, but has floor-space and love-seat folds to a bed.

I have it for tonight and Monday

Bang on door loud, as I will be unconscious till about 9 a.m..

David Locklear
346-801-4962
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Re: [Texascavers] Groad Hollow

[Barb]

Larry Cohen is an actual person - why is he in quotes? 
ps tell him I said hi.
Barb Coons

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> On Jun 16, 2019, at 6:47 PM, David  wrote:
> 
> Typo
> 
> Rune Burnett
> 
> Blake Harrison and Dominique are here.
> 
> Mark Gee just got her telling everybody how wonderful The Geology Field trip 
> was.
> 
> Old-timer, " Larry Cohen." just showed up.
> 
> The Nashville Grotto has a cool bar set up.   There will be a pre-convention 
> pub-style gathering there tonight.
> 
> Cavers here are reminiscing / chattering about Bill Mixon.
> 
> D.L.
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Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

[Steve Keselik]

Thank God for Fintermans. The best caving advice I ever got from an early day 
Lech explorer was “always bring ear plugs” those eye things are good too. If I 
was you I’d make a shelter out of that 100lb duffel pack. Party on ! You can 
sleep when you get back

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> On Jun 16, 2019, at 4:58 PM, David  wrote:
> 
> I would like to send out a very special sincere thank you of appreciation to 
> so many cavers that welcomed me.   It is perplexing, at least to me, that a 
> goofy retired recreational quasi-caver, such as me, can get such a red-carpet 
> treatment from real hard-core notable prestigious cavers.
> 
> 
> I do not think I have ever attended an NSS Convention on a Sunday before.   I 
> am quite surprised at all the jovial activity.
> 
> There are several Texas cavers here.  Katherine Arens, Jim Kennedy, Galen 
> Falgout, Terry and Mercy Raines, and Bill Rupley and former Texas cavers, 
> Ernst Kastning, Mark Minton and Sara Gayle. 
> 
> I was very impressed with the amount of quality stuff in NSS Consignment 
> Sales and a guy that makes cool t-shirts.
> 
> Very sadly, no sign of the AMCS.
> 
> After registering for a One Day Pass, I was about to pass out from exhaustion.
> So I found the nearest dark corner that I could find and curled up in a fetal 
> position on the hard floor to sleep.   Just as I was be about to dose off, 
> the lady from the "Amazing Caves" movie woke me up and said something to the 
> effect of "dude, this is the area were we quarantine the Juveniles, I am 
> evicting you."
> 
> So I packed up my stuff and went searching for a new spot to power-nap.
> Down the hall, I found a scrap piece of cardboard near the trash-can.  I 
> found a hidden niche on a harder cold floor in the cafeteria, and made a tiny 
> homeless-camp.  I did not get any sleep, as people kept coming and going and 
> socializing, but I did eventually regain some energy.
> 
> It is 4 pm now, and I have no idea where I am going, but I am celebrating 
> this tiny accomplishment with a cold bottle of Fentiman's Ginger Beer and 
> some sweet-potato chips.
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/dZL6mchgX2DjUppUA
> 
> 
> To be continued.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Groad Hollow

[Charles Loving]

Rune Burnett or Robert. Get the names right.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 6:28 PM David  wrote:

> The Sacred Pilgrimage to Groad Hollow has begun for many cavers.   At
> least 10 have already completed it.
>
> A special place to remember our wonderful friends who passed and left us,
> and to make new friends.   Some of whom like me, are too busy texting to
> know they are here.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/vgdMsQBkH2aUZoTM9
>
> Rupley formerly announced his retirement.  Jake Cox announced he is
> playing harmonica Wednesday night with Albert Ogdon and The Terminal
> Siphons at The Campground Party.
>
> Bill Steele says you all should be her.
>
> The night-time weather should be good for camping. but the ground is hard
> for tent-stakes, and the mid-day sun makes it hot for the campers without a
> large shade.
>
> Rudy Burnett and others and Susan Souby say "We wish you were here."
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Groad Hollow

[Bill Bentley]

Walk across the campground and say Hi!
Bill Bentley

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 6:47 PM David  wrote:

> Typo
>
> Rune Burnett
>
> Blake Harrison and Dominique are here.
>
> Mark Gee just got her telling everybody how wonderful The Geology Field
> trip was.
>
> Old-timer, " Larry Cohen." just showed up.
>
> The Nashville Grotto has a cool bar set up.   There will be a
> pre-convention pub-style gathering there tonight.
>
> Cavers here are reminiscing / chattering about Bill Mixon.
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Groad Hollow

[David]

Typo

Rune Burnett

Blake Harrison and Dominique are here.

Mark Gee just got her telling everybody how wonderful The Geology Field
trip was.

Old-timer, " Larry Cohen." just showed up.

The Nashville Grotto has a cool bar set up.   There will be a
pre-convention pub-style gathering there tonight.

Cavers here are reminiscing / chattering about Bill Mixon.

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Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

[Charles Loving]

 I haven't slept to noon in decades. I rise at dawn thirty everyday. When I
was working swing or the night shift I slept until lunch sometimes.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM David  wrote:

> I can now verify, that I have already bungle-fied my trip.
>
> A poor lady NSS volunteer waited and waited and waited extremely patiently
> at my motel to give me a ride across town to the Convention Registration
> Booth, but I had no idea she was there, and had my phone off to finish my
> beauty-sleep.   Who the heck gets up on Sunday mornings before noon ?
> This was not even on my agenda today.   I had planned to sleep all day.
>
> But I am here, which is too bizarre to be real.   I must be dreaming or in
> a coma.
>
>
> I already found a display of a cave organization.   Cavers need one of
> these displays permanently set up in Houston.
>
> I must find a share-motel for tonight.
>
> The sweet lady that drove me here, offered me a ride to Nashville bus
> station on Tuesday evening.   Somebody please give her a six-pack of her
> favorite beverage.
>
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Re: [Texascavers] a road-trip story - part 2

[Charles Loving]

*100 pounds in a duffle is amazing. I didn't take a 100 pounds for three
weeks in Costa Rica.  I travel with an ancient back pack. I take
extra shorts, a pair of pants, underwear, two or three t-shirts, a shirt, a
jacket, a flashlight (teeny)  some socks, and toilet articles, a knife, all
which weighs maybe 25 pounds. I wear my all purpose shoes, pants, longsleve
shirt, Bil Bell belt, and a gimme hat. Travel light. Oh, and a book or two.
No cell phone or computer. I used to ride the bus at one time. **Going from
Austin to Matehuala was real easy on the Tornado Bus, about twenty bucks.
The five bucks to ride in the back of a pick up to Real de Catorce.  I did
it that way cause it was fun.*

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 8:17 AM David  wrote:

> From David Locklear
>
> My Craigslist chauffeur lived up to his end of the deal.
>
> I had no idea what to expect, but was assuming Dr. Lecter.  He
> arranged to meet Saturday morning for breakfast at his cheap hotel
> in southwest Houston. I was not going to pry into his agenda,
> and told him I would be there.   This location allowed me to leave
> the Sequoia at my apartment. I wasted an hour trying to find a ride,
> to his hotel, and then tried to bum a ride off my neighbors.In
> hindsight,
> I should have just walked a 1/4 mile to the bus stop, as the bus allegedly
> runs every 30 minutes on Saturday.   ( I had only rode it once before a
> long
> time ago, and lacked the time to study the bus routes ).
>
> Anyways, my duffle-bag back weighed 100 lbs, and only had a shoulder
> strap, and I was wearing
> flip-flops.I was drenching in sweat by the time the bus arrived.
>  The bus
> dropped me off a mile from his hotel and I had to walk it Mixtecan-style
> with
> my duffle-bag on my head.I was in a dangerous part of town to be
> alone, and
> had all my trip funds on me as cash, which is something I would not have
> done
> had I had time to prepare for the trip.
>
> By the time I got to his hotel, I was an hour late, but he didn't seem to
> mind.I was
> drenching in sweat, and exhausted when I met him, so that was not a way to
> make
> a good first impression.  He let me shower and change clothes, so once
> we got
> on the road, I felt better.
>
> To my surprise, my first impression of my new Craigslist chauffeur was not
> Dr. Lecter,
> but instead Mr. Wan Kuok-koi, leader
> of the 14K Triad syndicate in China.But that seemed better than what I
> was
> assuming he would be. He had already finished breakfast, but let
> me eat while he packed up his room.  He drove non-stop to Texarkana,
> and I took
> over and drove non-stop to Nashville. There I convinced him to drive
> me to Cookeville
> and get a motel and we would split it, even though Nashville and
> Cookeville were off his
> main route of travel to Detroit.  All in all that, cost me $ 175,
> money I really should have
> spent going to the dentist.
>
> We made the trip in a new Chevy Equinox.It had integrated into the
> side-mirrors a tiny
> yellow symbol to warn you of a car in your blind spot. That feature
> would be worthless in
> Houston, as you always have a car in your blind-spot, and so the light
> would be very
> annoying.   You would have to cover it with black tape.
>
> My Craigslist chauffeur, claimed his name was Barry.He listened to
> that confounded National
> Propaganda Radio, for 15 hours, driving me fr*ckin nuts.He hardly
> uttered a single word for 15 hours, even though he
> spoke perfect English.   ( He claimed he was originally from Maine and had
> been in the Coast Guard
> briefly ) I tried my best to find a topic we could converse, but he
> was either an introvert or an
> underworld fugitive, or there was a remote chance he figured I was crazy
> as a loon, or most likely all
> three of those.
>
> I am now in Room 301, Sunday morning. I plan to sleep until noon, if
> the hotel will let me.
>
> I have no idea what I am going to do this afternoon. I really don't
> have the funds to be up here, and I really
> have a ton of chores waiting on me back in Houston.I have not been
> able to find a ride home
> yet, but there is a shuttle bus back to Nashville. I assume I won't
> have to hard of a problem getting
> back to Nashville.
>
> I will likely only purchase a 1-Day Pass for the NSS Convention. Maybe
> a 2-Day Pass.
>
> I am going to pretend for the next 24 hours that I am on my summer
> vacation, but after that, I have to face
> my reality, and start pondering how to get back to my apartment, so that I
> can get back to work.
>
> P.S. The pool is broken at The Quality Inn, and the breakfast is lame.
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[Texascavers] Groad Hollow

[David]

The Sacred Pilgrimage to Groad Hollow has begun for many cavers.   At least
10 have already completed it.

A special place to remember our wonderful friends who passed and left us,
and to make new friends.   Some of whom like me, are too busy texting to
know they are here.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vgdMsQBkH2aUZoTM9

Rupley formerly announced his retirement.  Jake Cox announced he is playing
harmonica Wednesday night with Albert Ogdon and The Terminal Siphons at The
Campground Party.

Bill Steele says you all should be her.

The night-time weather should be good for camping. but the ground is hard
for tent-stakes, and the mid-day sun makes it hot for the campers without a
large shade.

Rudy Burnett and others and Susan Souby say "We wish you were here."

D.L.
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Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

[Jim Kennedy]

David, you should be embarrassed. You claim to have visited consignment sales, 
yet you didn’t see the AMCS publications there. For shame!

Jim

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> On Jun 16, 2019, at 4:58 PM, David  wrote:
> 
> I would like to send out a very special sincere thank you of appreciation to 
> so many cavers that welcomed me.   It is perplexing, at least to me, that a 
> goofy retired recreational quasi-caver, such as me, can get such a red-carpet 
> treatment from real hard-core notable prestigious cavers.
> 
> 
> I do not think I have ever attended an NSS Convention on a Sunday before.   I 
> am quite surprised at all the jovial activity.
> 
> There are several Texas cavers here.  Katherine Arens, Jim Kennedy, Galen 
> Falgout, Terry and Mercy Raines, and Bill Rupley and former Texas cavers, 
> Ernst Kastning, Mark Minton and Sara Gayle. 
> 
> I was very impressed with the amount of quality stuff in NSS Consignment 
> Sales and a guy that makes cool t-shirts.
> 
> Very sadly, no sign of the AMCS.
> 
> After registering for a One Day Pass, I was about to pass out from exhaustion.
> So I found the nearest dark corner that I could find and curled up in a fetal 
> position on the hard floor to sleep.   Just as I was be about to dose off, 
> the lady from the "Amazing Caves" movie woke me up and said something to the 
> effect of "dude, this is the area were we quarantine the Juveniles, I am 
> evicting you."
> 
> So I packed up my stuff and went searching for a new spot to power-nap.
> Down the hall, I found a scrap piece of cardboard near the trash-can.  I 
> found a hidden niche on a harder cold floor in the cafeteria, and made a tiny 
> homeless-camp.  I did not get any sleep, as people kept coming and going and 
> socializing, but I did eventually regain some energy.
> 
> It is 4 pm now, and I have no idea where I am going, but I am celebrating 
> this tiny accomplishment with a cold bottle of Fentiman's Ginger Beer and 
> some sweet-potato chips.
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/dZL6mchgX2DjUppUA
> 
> 
> To be continued.
> 
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[Texascavers] NSS Convention

[David]

I would like to send out a very special sincere thank you of appreciation
to so many cavers that welcomed me.   It is perplexing, at least to me,
that a goofy retired recreational quasi-caver, such as me, can get such a
red-carpet treatment from real hard-core notable prestigious cavers.


I do not think I have ever attended an NSS Convention on a Sunday before.
 I am quite surprised at all the jovial activity.

There are several Texas cavers here.  Katherine Arens, Jim Kennedy, Galen
Falgout, Terry and Mercy Raines, and Bill Rupley and former Texas cavers,
Ernst Kastning, Mark Minton and Sara Gayle.

I was very impressed with the amount of quality stuff in NSS Consignment
Sales and a guy that makes cool t-shirts.

Very sadly, no sign of the AMCS.

After registering for a One Day Pass, I was about to pass out from
exhaustion.
So I found the nearest dark corner that I could find and curled up in a
fetal position on the hard floor to sleep.   Just as I was be about to dose
off, the lady from the "Amazing Caves" movie woke me up and said something
to the effect of "dude, this is the area were we quarantine the Juveniles,
I am evicting you."

So I packed up my stuff and went searching for a new spot to power-nap.
Down the hall, I found a scrap piece of cardboard near the trash-can.  I
found a hidden niche on a harder cold floor in the cafeteria, and made a
tiny homeless-camp.  I did not get any sleep, as people kept coming and
going and socializing, but I did eventually regain some energy.

It is 4 pm now, and I have no idea where I am going, but I am celebrating
this tiny accomplishment with a cold bottle of Fentiman's Ginger Beer and
some sweet-potato chips.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/dZL6mchgX2DjUppUA


To be continued.

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Re: [Texascavers] Convention cave guidebook request

[Katherine Arens]

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On Jun 16, 2019, at 3:32 PM, Jim Kennedy 
mailto:cavercr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just bought Marthas’s guidebook for her. She owes me $23. And a beer!

Jim

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On Jun 16, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Logan 
mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

Martha Meacham would like a Convention Guidebook to the caves.
If anyone can provide her with a copy she would really appreciate it.

She just returned from that area but is not able to attend the Convention.

On behalf of Martha,
Thanks,
Logan
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Re: [Texascavers] Convention cave guidebook request

[Jim Kennedy]

I just bought Marthas’s guidebook for her. She owes me $23. And a beer!

Jim

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> On Jun 16, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Logan  wrote:
> 
> Martha Meacham would like a Convention Guidebook to the caves.
> If anyone can provide her with a copy she would really appreciate it.
> 
> She just returned from that area but is not able to attend the Convention.
> 
> On behalf of Martha,
> Thanks,
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Re: [Texascavers] a road-trip story - part 2

[Steve Keselik]

I think the weight was estimated. 100Lbs is quite heavy or maybe David is
funding the trip hustling a little product, always in demand at the
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On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:34 AM Barb  wrote:

> Yes! I was wondering that too. (Which goes to show I have been
> procrastinating doing something productive this morning.)
> :-)
> Barb
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 16, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Katherine Arens 
> wrote:
>
> also a question:  how can the duffel weigh 100 lbs with no camping gear?
> just asking why you’re transporting rocks . . .
>
> On Jun 16, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Barb  wrote:
>
> David, you could have flown on southwest and camped for less than you are
> probably going to end up paying now- if you plan ahead. But it seems you
> hate that. Btw, you can also cancel flights on SW with no penalty and then
> rebook for the next year's convention if plans get screwy. Just saying.
> Barb Coons
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 16, 2019, at 8:17 AM, David  wrote:
>
> From David Locklear
>
> My Craigslist chauffeur lived up to his end of the deal.
>
> I had no idea what to expect, but was assuming Dr. Lecter.  He
> arranged to meet Saturday morning for breakfast at his cheap hotel
> in southwest Houston. I was not going to pry into his agenda,
> and told him I would be there.   This location allowed me to leave
> the Sequoia at my apartment. I wasted an hour trying to find a ride,
> to his hotel, and then tried to bum a ride off my neighbors.In
> hindsight,
> I should have just walked a 1/4 mile to the bus stop, as the bus allegedly
> runs every 30 minutes on Saturday.   ( I had only rode it once before a
> long
> time ago, and lacked the time to study the bus routes ).
>
> Anyways, my duffle-bag back weighed 100 lbs, and only had a shoulder
> strap, and I was wearing
> flip-flops.I was drenching in sweat by the time the bus arrived.
>  The bus
> dropped me off a mile from his hotel and I had to walk it Mixtecan-style
> with
> my duffle-bag on my head.I was in a dangerous part of town to be
> alone, and
> had all my trip funds on me as cash, which is something I would not have
> done
> had I had time to prepare for the trip.
>
> By the time I got to his hotel, I was an hour late, but he didn't seem to
> mind.I was
> drenching in sweat, and exhausted when I met him, so that was not a way to
> make
> a good first impression.  He let me shower and change clothes, so once
> we got
> on the road, I felt better.
>
> To my surprise, my first impression of my new Craigslist chauffeur was not
> Dr. Lecter,
> but instead Mr. Wan Kuok-koi, leader
> of the 14K Triad syndicate in China.But that seemed better than what I
> was
> assuming he would be. He had already finished breakfast, but let
> me eat while he packed up his room.  He drove non-stop to Texarkana,
> and I took
> over and drove non-stop to Nashville. There I convinced him to drive
> me to Cookeville
> and get a motel and we would split it, even though Nashville and
> Cookeville were off his
> main route of travel to Detroit.  All in all that, cost me $ 175,
> money I really should have
> spent going to the dentist.
>
> We made the trip in a new Chevy Equinox.It had integrated into the
> side-mirrors a tiny
> yellow symbol to warn you of a car in your blind spot. That feature
> would be worthless in
> Houston, as you always have a car in your blind-spot, and so the light
> would be very
> annoying.   You would have to cover it with black tape.
>
> My Craigslist chauffeur, claimed his name was Barry.He listened to
> that confounded National
> Propaganda Radio, for 15 hours, driving me fr*ckin nuts.He hardly
> uttered a single word for 15 hours, even though he
> spoke perfect English.   ( He claimed he was originally from Maine and had
> been in the Coast Guard
> briefly ) I tried my best to find a topic we could converse, but he
> was either an introvert or an
> underworld fugitive, or there was a remote chance he figured I was crazy
> as a loon, or most likely all
> three of those.
>
> I am now in Room 301, Sunday morning. I plan to sleep until noon, if
> the hotel will let me.
>
> I have no idea what I am going to do this afternoon. I really don't
> have the funds to be up here, and I really
> have a ton of chores waiting on me back in Houston.I have not been
> able to find a ride home
> yet, but there is a shuttle bus back to Nashville. I assume I won't
> have to hard of a problem getting
> back to Nashville.
>
> I will likely only purchase a 1-Day Pass for the NSS Convention. M

[Texascavers] Convention cave guidebook request

[Logan]

Martha Meacham would like a Convention Guidebook to the caves.
If anyone can provide her with a copy she would really appreciate it.

She just returned from that area but is not able to attend the Convention.

On behalf of Martha,
Thanks,
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Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

[Steve Keselik]

Party on Dude! Glad you made it and are having a good time and a Happy
Fathers Day! Some time all we need is a little distance. As the the old
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On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM David  wrote:

> I can now verify, that I have already bungle-fied my trip.
>
> A poor lady NSS volunteer waited and waited and waited extremely patiently
> at my motel to give me a ride across town to the Convention Registration
> Booth, but I had no idea she was there, and had my phone off to finish my
> beauty-sleep.   Who the heck gets up on Sunday mornings before noon ?
> This was not even on my agenda today.   I had planned to sleep all day.
>
> But I am here, which is too bizarre to be real.   I must be dreaming or in
> a coma.
>
>
> I already found a display of a cave organization.   Cavers need one of
> these displays permanently set up in Houston.
>
> I must find a share-motel for tonight.
>
> The sweet lady that drove me here, offered me a ride to Nashville bus
> station on Tuesday evening.   Somebody please give her a six-pack of her
> favorite beverage.
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Happy thoughts

[Steve Keselik]

And too little water. I think the convention should only be on Skype so we
would stop burning all those fossil fuels to get there or a least ride a
bicycle!  Or hold it every year in the center of the caving universe,
Central Texas , of course hosted by other states. Happy Fathers Day and
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On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 9:13 PM Charles Loving  wrote:

> Too many people.
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 8:02 PM Carol W Russell 
> wrote:
>
>> Still, it seems there are things we can do, and must do, to slow the
>> process.
>>
>> We humans need to change profoundly the way we live.
>> It will take a large cooperative effort, at the individual level and at
>> government levels worldwide.
>>
>> We need to stop fighting wars and stop overconsuming the world's
>> resources, to preserve its natural wonders and wildlife, so that our kids
>> will have the opportunity to enjoy nature and, yes, caving.
>>
>> Humans are inventive. Let's work on it.
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:58 AM JamesJasek  wrote:
>>
>>> There is almost no doubt that our grandchildren will grow up in a
>>> different world then we live in today. Our government has our country
>>> totally and completely screwed up I just don’t feel like we got a chance to
>>> survive I’m not so worried about myself but I’m definitely worried about my
>>> daughter and my granddaughter
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhoneX
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Charles Loving 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *IPCC and the Green idea plans are based on the assumption that
>>> greenhouse gases can be removed from the atmosphere. That technology does
>>> not exist to scale needed at this time for obvious reasons of energy and
>>> land requirements. Paleoclimate records easily show us that you aren't
>>> going to simply stop global warming at +1.5-2 C by ending emissions (the
>>> current carbon dioxide equivalent concentration is 500 parts of million;
>>> 1700s concentration was ~275-280 ppm, even with other greenhouse gases).
>>> The 1.5 C report last autumn suggested another 0.6 C of warming was locked
>>> in based on recent emissions and we must be net zero carbon by 2050; but
>>> this is based purely on emissions from *humans*, removal of carbon on
>>> scales of hundreds of gigatons (basically removing what took plants tens of
>>> millions of years to sequester...bind as solid matter via plant
>>> growth...in *tens of years*...really? With what energy source...what land?)
>>> and fast feedback sensitivity. Water vapor...loss of sea ice and
>>> albedo...some effects from clouds...other feedbacks which are clearly
>>> showing an exponential behavior are simply neglected in models. Even the
>>> feedbacks which are easily seen and more quantifiable are accelerating much
>>> faster than expected. The Permafrost is melting fast, methane is spewing,
>>> the oceans are getting warmer, the circulation in the atmosphere has
>>> changed. Are we on the road to extinction? Now that is a happy thought
>>> isn't it. Our grand babies might be doomed.*
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Texascavers] a road-trip story - part 2

[Barb]

Yes! I was wondering that too. (Which goes to show I have been procrastinating 
doing something productive this morning.)
:-)
Barb

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> On Jun 16, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
> also a question:  how can the duffel weigh 100 lbs with no camping gear?   
> just asking why you’re transporting rocks . . .
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Barb  wrote:
>> 
>> David, you could have flown on southwest and camped for less than you are 
>> probably going to end up paying now- if you plan ahead. But it seems you 
>> hate that. Btw, you can also cancel flights on SW with no penalty and then 
>> rebook for the next year's convention if plans get screwy. Just saying.
>> Barb Coons
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2019, at 8:17 AM, David  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From David Locklear
>>> 
>>> My Craigslist chauffeur lived up to his end of the deal.
>>> 
>>> I had no idea what to expect, but was assuming Dr. Lecter.  He 
>>> arranged to meet Saturday morning for breakfast at his cheap hotel
>>> in southwest Houston. I was not going to pry into his agenda,
>>> and told him I would be there.   This location allowed me to leave
>>> the Sequoia at my apartment. I wasted an hour trying to find a ride,
>>> to his hotel, and then tried to bum a ride off my neighbors.In 
>>> hindsight,
>>> I should have just walked a 1/4 mile to the bus stop, as the bus allegedly
>>> runs every 30 minutes on Saturday.   ( I had only rode it once before a long
>>> time ago, and lacked the time to study the bus routes ). 
>>> 
>>> Anyways, my duffle-bag back weighed 100 lbs, and only had a shoulder strap, 
>>> and I was wearing 
>>> flip-flops.I was drenching in sweat by the time the bus arrived.  
>>> The bus
>>> dropped me off a mile from his hotel and I had to walk it Mixtecan-style 
>>> with
>>> my duffle-bag on my head.I was in a dangerous part of town to be alone, 
>>> and
>>> had all my trip funds on me as cash, which is something I would not have 
>>> done
>>> had I had time to prepare for the trip.
>>> 
>>> By the time I got to his hotel, I was an hour late, but he didn't seem to 
>>> mind.I was
>>> drenching in sweat, and exhausted when I met him, so that was not a way to 
>>> make
>>> a good first impression.  He let me shower and change clothes, so once 
>>> we got
>>> on the road, I felt better.
>>> 
>>> To my surprise, my first impression of my new Craigslist chauffeur was not 
>>> Dr. Lecter, 
>>> but instead Mr. Wan Kuok-koi, leader
>>> of the 14K Triad syndicate in China.But that seemed better than what I 
>>> was 
>>> assuming he would be. He had already finished breakfast, but let
>>> me eat while he packed up his room.  He drove non-stop to Texarkana, 
>>> and I took
>>> over and drove non-stop to Nashville. There I convinced him to drive me 
>>> to Cookeville
>>> and get a motel and we would split it, even though Nashville and Cookeville 
>>> were off his
>>> main route of travel to Detroit.  All in all that, cost me $ 175, money 
>>> I really should have
>>> spent going to the dentist.
>>> 
>>> We made the trip in a new Chevy Equinox.It had integrated into the 
>>> side-mirrors a tiny
>>> yellow symbol to warn you of a car in your blind spot. That feature 
>>> would be worthless in
>>> Houston, as you always have a car in your blind-spot, and so the light 
>>> would be very
>>> annoying.   You would have to cover it with black tape.
>>> 
>>> My Craigslist chauffeur, claimed his name was Barry.He listened to that 
>>> confounded National
>>> Propaganda Radio, for 15 hours, driving me fr*ckin nuts.He hardly 
>>> uttered a single word for 15 hours, even though he
>>> spoke perfect English.   ( He claimed he was originally from Maine and had 
>>> been in the Coast Guard
>>> briefly ) I tried my best to find a topic we could converse, but he was 
>>> either an introvert or an
>>> underworld fugitive, or there was a remote chance he figured I was crazy as 
>>> a loon, or most likely all
>>> three of those.
>>> 
>>> I am now in Room 301, Sunday morning. I plan to sleep until noon, if 
>>> the hotel will let me. 
>>> 
>>> I have no idea what I am going to do this afternoon. I really don't 
>>> have the funds to be up here, and I really
>>> have a ton of chores waiting on me back in Houston.I have not been 
>>> able to find a ride home
>>> yet, but there is a shuttle bus back to Nashville. I assume I won't 
>>> have to hard of a problem getting
>>> back to Nashville.
>>> 
>>> I will likely only purchase a 1-Day Pass for the NSS Convention. Maybe 
>>> a 2-Day Pass.
>>> 
>>> I am going to pretend for the next 24 hours that I am on my summer 
>>> vacation, but after that, I have to face
>>> my reality, and start pondering how to get back to my apartment, so that I 
>>> can get back to work.
>>> 
>>> P.S. The pool is broken at The Quality Inn, and the breakfast is lame.
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Re: [Texascavers] a road-trip story - part 2

[Katherine Arens]

also a question:  how can the duffel weigh 100 lbs with no camping gear?   just 
asking why you’re transporting rocks . . .

On Jun 16, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Barb 
mailto:bec_kar...@juno.com>> wrote:

David, you could have flown on southwest and camped for less than you are 
probably going to end up paying now- if you plan ahead. But it seems you hate 
that. Btw, you can also cancel flights on SW with no penalty and then rebook 
for the next year's convention if plans get screwy. Just saying.
Barb Coons

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On Jun 16, 2019, at 8:17 AM, David 
mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

From David Locklear

My Craigslist chauffeur lived up to his end of the deal.

I had no idea what to expect, but was assuming Dr. Lecter.  He
arranged to meet Saturday morning for breakfast at his cheap hotel
in southwest Houston. I was not going to pry into his agenda,
and told him I would be there.   This location allowed me to leave
the Sequoia at my apartment. I wasted an hour trying to find a ride,
to his hotel, and then tried to bum a ride off my neighbors.In hindsight,
I should have just walked a 1/4 mile to the bus stop, as the bus allegedly
runs every 30 minutes on Saturday.   ( I had only rode it once before a long
time ago, and lacked the time to study the bus routes ).

Anyways, my duffle-bag back weighed 100 lbs, and only had a shoulder strap, and 
I was wearing
flip-flops.I was drenching in sweat by the time the bus arrived.  The 
bus
dropped me off a mile from his hotel and I had to walk it Mixtecan-style with
my duffle-bag on my head.I was in a dangerous part of town to be alone, and
had all my trip funds on me as cash, which is something I would not have done
had I had time to prepare for the trip.

By the time I got to his hotel, I was an hour late, but he didn't seem to mind. 
   I was
drenching in sweat, and exhausted when I met him, so that was not a way to make
a good first impression.  He let me shower and change clothes, so once we 
got
on the road, I felt better.

To my surprise, my first impression of my new Craigslist chauffeur was not Dr. 
Lecter,
but instead Mr. Wan Kuok-koi, leader
of the 14K Triad syndicate in China.But that seemed better than what I was
assuming he would be. He had already finished breakfast, but let
me eat while he packed up his room.  He drove non-stop to Texarkana, and I 
took
over and drove non-stop to Nashville. There I convinced him to drive me to 
Cookeville
and get a motel and we would split it, even though Nashville and Cookeville 
were off his
main route of travel to Detroit.  All in all that, cost me $ 175, money I 
really should have
spent going to the dentist.

We made the trip in a new Chevy Equinox.It had integrated into the 
side-mirrors a tiny
yellow symbol to warn you of a car in your blind spot. That feature would 
be worthless in
Houston, as you always have a car in your blind-spot, and so the light would be 
very
annoying.   You would have to cover it with black tape.

My Craigslist chauffeur, claimed his name was Barry.He listened to that 
confounded National
Propaganda Radio, for 15 hours, driving me fr*ckin nuts.He hardly 
uttered a single word for 15 hours, even though he
spoke perfect English.   ( He claimed he was originally from Maine and had been 
in the Coast Guard
briefly ) I tried my best to find a topic we could converse, but he was 
either an introvert or an
underworld fugitive, or there was a remote chance he figured I was crazy as a 
loon, or most likely all
three of those.

I am now in Room 301, Sunday morning. I plan to sleep until noon, if the 
hotel will let me.

I have no idea what I am going to do this afternoon. I really don't have 
the funds to be up here, and I really
have a ton of chores waiting on me back in Houston.I have not been able 
to find a ride home
yet, but there is a shuttle bus back to Nashville. I assume I won't have to 
hard of a problem getting
back to Nashville.

I will likely only purchase a 1-Day Pass for the NSS Convention. Maybe a 
2-Day Pass.

I am going to pretend for the next 24 hours that I am on my summer vacation, 
but after that, I have to face
my reality, and start pondering how to get back to my apartment, so that I can 
get back to work.

P.S. The pool is broken at The Quality Inn, and the breakfast is lame.
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[Barb]

David, you could have flown on southwest and camped for less than you are 
probably going to end up paying now- if you plan ahead. But it seems you hate 
that. Btw, you can also cancel flights on SW with no penalty and then rebook 
for the next year's convention if plans get screwy. Just saying.
Barb Coons

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2019, at 8:17 AM, David  wrote:
> 
> From David Locklear
> 
> My Craigslist chauffeur lived up to his end of the deal.
> 
> I had no idea what to expect, but was assuming Dr. Lecter.  He 
> arranged to meet Saturday morning for breakfast at his cheap hotel
> in southwest Houston. I was not going to pry into his agenda,
> and told him I would be there.   This location allowed me to leave
> the Sequoia at my apartment. I wasted an hour trying to find a ride,
> to his hotel, and then tried to bum a ride off my neighbors.In hindsight,
> I should have just walked a 1/4 mile to the bus stop, as the bus allegedly
> runs every 30 minutes on Saturday.   ( I had only rode it once before a long
> time ago, and lacked the time to study the bus routes ). 
> 
> Anyways, my duffle-bag back weighed 100 lbs, and only had a shoulder strap, 
> and I was wearing 
> flip-flops.I was drenching in sweat by the time the bus arrived.  The 
> bus
> dropped me off a mile from his hotel and I had to walk it Mixtecan-style with
> my duffle-bag on my head.I was in a dangerous part of town to be alone, 
> and
> had all my trip funds on me as cash, which is something I would not have done
> had I had time to prepare for the trip.
> 
> By the time I got to his hotel, I was an hour late, but he didn't seem to 
> mind.I was
> drenching in sweat, and exhausted when I met him, so that was not a way to 
> make
> a good first impression.  He let me shower and change clothes, so once we 
> got
> on the road, I felt better.
> 
> To my surprise, my first impression of my new Craigslist chauffeur was not 
> Dr. Lecter, 
> but instead Mr. Wan Kuok-koi, leader
> of the 14K Triad syndicate in China.But that seemed better than what I 
> was 
> assuming he would be. He had already finished breakfast, but let
> me eat while he packed up his room.  He drove non-stop to Texarkana, and 
> I took
> over and drove non-stop to Nashville. There I convinced him to drive me 
> to Cookeville
> and get a motel and we would split it, even though Nashville and Cookeville 
> were off his
> main route of travel to Detroit.  All in all that, cost me $ 175, money I 
> really should have
> spent going to the dentist.
> 
> We made the trip in a new Chevy Equinox.It had integrated into the 
> side-mirrors a tiny
> yellow symbol to warn you of a car in your blind spot. That feature would 
> be worthless in
> Houston, as you always have a car in your blind-spot, and so the light would 
> be very
> annoying.   You would have to cover it with black tape.
> 
> My Craigslist chauffeur, claimed his name was Barry.He listened to that 
> confounded National
> Propaganda Radio, for 15 hours, driving me fr*ckin nuts.He hardly 
> uttered a single word for 15 hours, even though he
> spoke perfect English.   ( He claimed he was originally from Maine and had 
> been in the Coast Guard
> briefly ) I tried my best to find a topic we could converse, but he was 
> either an introvert or an
> underworld fugitive, or there was a remote chance he figured I was crazy as a 
> loon, or most likely all
> three of those.
> 
> I am now in Room 301, Sunday morning. I plan to sleep until noon, if the 
> hotel will let me. 
> 
> I have no idea what I am going to do this afternoon. I really don't have 
> the funds to be up here, and I really
> have a ton of chores waiting on me back in Houston.I have not been 
> able to find a ride home
> yet, but there is a shuttle bus back to Nashville. I assume I won't have 
> to hard of a problem getting
> back to Nashville.
> 
> I will likely only purchase a 1-Day Pass for the NSS Convention. Maybe a 
> 2-Day Pass.
> 
> I am going to pretend for the next 24 hours that I am on my summer vacation, 
> but after that, I have to face
> my reality, and start pondering how to get back to my apartment, so that I 
> can get back to work.
> 
> P.S. The pool is broken at The Quality Inn, and the breakfast is lame.
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Re: [Texascavers] austin american Statesman article on Bill Russell and the karst preserve

[Cathy Winfrey]

That really was a very nice testimonial for William. Thanks for posting the
link, Katie.

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 9:36 PM Katherine Arens 
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[Texascavers] a road-trip story - part 2

[David]

>From David Locklear

My Craigslist chauffeur lived up to his end of the deal.

I had no idea what to expect, but was assuming Dr. Lecter.  He
arranged to meet Saturday morning for breakfast at his cheap hotel
in southwest Houston. I was not going to pry into his agenda,
and told him I would be there.   This location allowed me to leave
the Sequoia at my apartment. I wasted an hour trying to find a ride,
to his hotel, and then tried to bum a ride off my neighbors.In
hindsight,
I should have just walked a 1/4 mile to the bus stop, as the bus allegedly
runs every 30 minutes on Saturday.   ( I had only rode it once before a long
time ago, and lacked the time to study the bus routes ).

Anyways, my duffle-bag back weighed 100 lbs, and only had a shoulder strap,
and I was wearing
flip-flops.I was drenching in sweat by the time the bus arrived.
 The bus
dropped me off a mile from his hotel and I had to walk it Mixtecan-style
with
my duffle-bag on my head.I was in a dangerous part of town to be alone,
and
had all my trip funds on me as cash, which is something I would not have
done
had I had time to prepare for the trip.

By the time I got to his hotel, I was an hour late, but he didn't seem to
mind.I was
drenching in sweat, and exhausted when I met him, so that was not a way to
make
a good first impression.  He let me shower and change clothes, so once
we got
on the road, I felt better.

To my surprise, my first impression of my new Craigslist chauffeur was not
Dr. Lecter,
but instead Mr. Wan Kuok-koi, leader
of the 14K Triad syndicate in China.But that seemed better than what I
was
assuming he would be. He had already finished breakfast, but let
me eat while he packed up his room.  He drove non-stop to Texarkana,
and I took
over and drove non-stop to Nashville. There I convinced him to drive me
to Cookeville
and get a motel and we would split it, even though Nashville and Cookeville
were off his
main route of travel to Detroit.  All in all that, cost me $ 175, money
I really should have
spent going to the dentist.

We made the trip in a new Chevy Equinox.It had integrated into the
side-mirrors a tiny
yellow symbol to warn you of a car in your blind spot. That feature
would be worthless in
Houston, as you always have a car in your blind-spot, and so the light
would be very
annoying.   You would have to cover it with black tape.

My Craigslist chauffeur, claimed his name was Barry.He listened to that
confounded National
Propaganda Radio, for 15 hours, driving me fr*ckin nuts.He hardly
uttered a single word for 15 hours, even though he
spoke perfect English.   ( He claimed he was originally from Maine and had
been in the Coast Guard
briefly ) I tried my best to find a topic we could converse, but he was
either an introvert or an
underworld fugitive, or there was a remote chance he figured I was crazy as
a loon, or most likely all
three of those.

I am now in Room 301, Sunday morning. I plan to sleep until noon, if
the hotel will let me.

I have no idea what I am going to do this afternoon. I really don't
have the funds to be up here, and I really
have a ton of chores waiting on me back in Houston.I have not been
able to find a ride home
yet, but there is a shuttle bus back to Nashville. I assume I won't
have to hard of a problem getting
back to Nashville.

I will likely only purchase a 1-Day Pass for the NSS Convention. Maybe
a 2-Day Pass.

I am going to pretend for the next 24 hours that I am on my summer
vacation, but after that, I have to face
my reality, and start pondering how to get back to my apartment, so that I
can get back to work.

P.S. The pool is broken at The Quality Inn, and the breakfast is lame.
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