[Texascavers] TSA Officers

[Linda Palit]

Greetings, all,

The Texas Speleology Association is looking for officer candidates.
Election details will be coming, but please send nominations to me through
email. You contact them or I will be glad to do so.

Thanks!,
Linda
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[Texascavers] TCMA Board Members

[Linda Palit]

TCMA is looking for a few dedicated cavers that want to give back to the
caving community. It is time for our board elections, and we need
candidates.  It has been a hard two years, and normal or not we need to
take care of TCMA business and need help doing so.  Send nominations to me,
or contact the potential candidate yourself and let me know they are
interested.
Messenger or email is fine for me.

And thanks,
Linda
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[Texascavers] Officers for TSA

[Linda Palit]

Last Call!  Nominations for Texas Speleological Association Officers are
open.  Nominations close a week from today, September 24th.  Please send
nominations to me, or ask the person yourself and send to me to follow up.
TSA is your organization; support is appreciated.
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[Texascavers] TCMA Board Election

[Linda Palit]

Last call for nominations for TCMA Board Member.  Self nominations are
welcome. Step up to help shape the future of Texas Caving.
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR pre-registration

[Linda Palit]

Thanks for all the registration work last weekend. It seemed smooth,
efficient and safe, as always.

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 5:34 AM Heather Tucek  wrote:

> If you are going to TCR this weekend, It would be super awesome if you
> would preregister. That will make your time at the registration desk go
> much faster, and as I am not having volunteers this year, will make my
> headache less as well!
> Registration will be open from whenever I get there after work (hopefully
> no later than 7/8pm) until 9:30pm on Friday, and from 7ish am to 6pm (when
> dinner starts) on Saturday. There will be no Sunday late-registration, so
> make sure you get there on time (or do it online before you come, then all
> you need to do is drop by for a wristband!)
>
>
> Here is the web page for pre-registration:
> https://cavetexas.org/tcr2021
>
>
> -heather
>
>
>
> --
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> -Heather Tuček
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> NSS 59660
> (512) 773-1348
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[Texascavers] TCMA Election

[Linda Palit]

If you are a current TCMA member you should have received a ballot for the
Board of Directors election in the last few days. If you have not, please
contact gr...@oztotl.com.

Thanks for your participation and continued support of TCMA.
Linda.
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[Texascavers] TCMA Board Election

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If you are a member of TCMA in good standing you should have received a
ballot for the board of directors election at the end of October.  Time is
running out. Please vote.  If you did not receive a ballot, please contact
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Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

[Linda Palit]

Keep us all informed of progress. Bet we can work something out if he is up
to coming.
Love to you both.


On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 2:44 PM Bill Steele  wrote:

> Mimi,
>
> Maybe some bighearted Texas cavers have an RV they could bring to the TSA
> convention for Jim and you to use and they sleep in a tent. That would be
> nice of them.
>
> Bill
>
> On Mar 4, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Kris Pena  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Mimi,
>
> Cave Without A Name rents out sites with RV hookups in the campground. Not
> sure if that's an option for y'all but wanted to make sure you knew about
> it. You'd still have to bring your own RV and the campsite has a separate
> fee payable directly to Cave Without A Name ($32 a night I think, but you'd
> have to verify with the park), but wanted to throw it out there as
> something for you guys to think about. We'd love to see you and Jim out
> there if it's possible for him!
>
> Kris
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 1:08 PM Mimi Jasek  wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> What a lovely and generous offer! I had spoken to Jim about the
>> convention already and was trying to figure out how to get him there. He
>> had expressed interest in going. Let us see how rehab goes, and if a
>> possibility I will reach out. We no longer even have a workable tent
>> anymore or cots. Maybe still an air mattress?! Last big trip to Big Bend
>> kind of messed up equipment due to extremely high winds!
>>
>> I am sure he would love a copy of yhat map
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Bill Steele 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mimi,
>>
>> Please give Jim my best regards and tell him that the Texas caving family
>> misses seeing him and we all want him to recover fully and come to the TSA
>> convention at CWAN in May. We’ll organize a Jim Jasek haul, like we do
>> Honey Creek tank hauls, to carry him into the cave down those many steps
>> for the talks and back out again.
>>
>> Has he seen Bennett Lee’s nice map of Adam Wilson’s Cave? If not, I’ll be
>> glad to send him a paper copy of it. James worked on mapping that cave.
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Bill Steele
>> Irving, Texas
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2022, at 3:03 PM, Mimi Jasek  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Jim’s surgery went as expected. Will stay in hospital till blood
>> thickness back to normal and PT/OT and doc say he is medically ok for
>> rehab. Had major questions from family, so put this together.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are better images and Jim's actual X-rays. Left hip area fracture.
>> No actual hip bone, but top Femur where turns to go to connect to pelvis
>> called hip bone. Three surgical arthroscopic small  cuts - one at top, one
>> part way down, and one lower. Used short rod - not all the way to knee.
>> Pulled on leg, rotated till bones knit in place, then this which explains
>> X-rays.
>>
>>
>> An intramedullary nail is a metal rod that is inserted into the medullary
>> cavity of a bone and across the fracture in order to provide a solid
>> support for the fractured bone. Intramedullary nailing is currently
>> considered the "gold standard" for treatment of femoral shaft fractures
>> (Rudloff 2009).Feb 2, 2018
>>
>>
>> Nurse also just told me way less pain than with replacement or other hip
>> area fractures. Reiterated what doc said - best place to break hip if get a
>> break! You can see from first X-ray how bone at almost 90 degree angle, and
>> in last one of fixed bone how in correct position. End of anatomy and
>> surgery lesson 😊❤️
>>
>>
>> Sitting in chair today hopefully till after supper!
>>
>>
>> Just got word got accepted into rehab docs like which is right by
>> hospital and close to home and docs. Looking up.
>>
>>
>> Mimi
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[Texascavers] Preserve Managers

[Linda Palit]

TCMA would like to congratulate our new Preserve Managers!

Niki Lake has taken over the management of Ezell’s Cave Preserve. Many
thanks to Gregg William for all his work as manager for the last few years,
and to all his other work for TCMA.

Greg Mosier is taking over the management of UCVC with Ben Hutchins
stepping up as assistant manager and continuing to manage the cartography.
Kudos to Lindsey Adamoski  for all her hard work to get the preserve
organized and to guide the preserve through the pandemic.

Rob Bisset is moving from assistant manager to manager of Deep and Punkin
Preserve. Thanks to Rob for stepping up the expand his role.  Many thanks
to Tom Rogers for his years of service; we will continue to think of him.
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[Texascavers] New Preserve Managers for TCMA

[Linda Palit]

TCMA would like to congratulate our new Preserve Managers!

Niki Lake has taken over the management of Ezell’s Cave Preserve. Many
thanks to Gregg William for all his work as manager for the last few years,
and to all his other work for TCMA.

Greg Mosier is taking over the management of UCVC with Ben Hutchins
stepping up as assistant manager and continuing to manage the cartography.
Kudos to Lindsey Adamoski  for all her hard work to get the preserve
organized and to guide the preserve through the pandemic.

Rob Bisset is moving from assistant manager to manager of Deep and Punkin
Preserve. Thanks to Rob for stepping up the expand his role.  Many thanks
to Tom Rogers for his years of service; we will continue to think of him.
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[Texascavers] Preserve Managers

[Linda Palit]

TCMA would like to congratulate our new Preserve Managers!

Niki Lake has taken over the management of Ezell’s Cave Preserve. Many
thanks to Gregg William for all his work as manager for the last few years,
and to all his other work for TCMA.

Greg Mosier is taking over the management of UCVC with Ben Hutchins
stepping up as assistant manager and continuing to manage the cartography.
Kudos to Lindsey Adamoski  for all her hard work to get the preserve
organized and to guide the preserve through the pandemic.

Rob Bisset is moving from assistant manager to manager of Deep and Punkin
Preserve. Thanks to Rob for stepping up the expand his role.  Many thanks
to Tom Rogers for his years of service; we will continue to think of him.
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Re: [Texascavers] Rode Goke

[Linda Palit]

Sad news indeed.  Rod was always great, dependable and precise in whatever
he did that I saw.
Hope it was gentle for him.



On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:02 PM, caverarch  wrote:

>  Martha very kindly called me to let me know, since she was aware we were
> old friends.   I just wrote this to her after hearing from Rod's father.  I
> have written several people in Florida (where we met as new cavers in the
> late Sixties) privately before hearing from Rod's dad.
>
> Roger Moore, Houston
> -Original Message-
> From: caverarch 
> To: mmeacham ; marthas_ear 
> Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:38 pm
> Subject: Rod's father just called me
>
>  Martha,
>
>  I was on a list of people from Florida to contact in this sort of
> situation. I was surprised that he would be doing such a thing right now,
> but he did.  It was a friend that looked after his house when Rod was away
> (and vice versa) who got worried when Rod did not retiurn calls after a
> couple of days.  This person came to the house and found Rod's cars there,
> and an overflowing mail box. so they called the police.  He was found in
> bed, which at least seems to indicate a peaceful death, I hope.
>
>  So that's all the additional information I have for now.  Thank you again
> for letting me know.
>
>  Roger
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Linda Palit]

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:

> Howdy y'all,
>
> It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be
> good for the weekend.
>
> Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of
> $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.
>  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we
> can work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not
> credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
>
> TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year,
> after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The
> bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An
> important part of registration is the liability release to be on the
> property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going around
> and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who
> don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there
> and everyone else paying for you.
>
> I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
> friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have
> some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest
> where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and
> you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
>
> See y'all there!
> Allan
>
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Re: [Texascavers] TCMA feedback

[Linda Palit]

Well, having candidates is a good thing.  I am very pleased we have
candidates willing to serve.  TCMA board takes a great deal of time, energy,
and work.  Giving the members a chance to vote is also a good thing.  If a
person is not elected as board member, there is still much work to do, and
all meetings are open (with the option of short private sessions).  To not
be voted a board member is not an awful thing -- lots involved and slots to
fill as far as skills.  We need more involvement, but constructive criticism
is always welcome, David, so feel free to volunteer to help out in some
capacity.  We would welcome your assistance (and you have helped us in the
past!).

The reason for not having 5 positions is that the current bylaws do not
provide for that.  Fairness is relative, and no matter what efforts are
made, somebody thinks it is unfair.

Thanks for the feedback, and feel free to vote.
Linda

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, David  wrote:

> You asked for feedback.
>
> Here is your dilemma:You have 5 awesome really cool candidates for
> 4 positions.Right ?   Or did
> I misunderstand that ?
>
> Why not just have 5 positions and be done with it and spare us from
> all the frickin politics ?
>
> The election is biased and un-fair to begin with. It would be more
> fair to flip a coin, or to
> draw straws, etc.
>
> Since that is not going to happen, why not let the 5th candidate or
> the one you are trying to week out,
>  serve as Apprentice Board Member or something to that effect, so that
> at the next election
> they won't look like Sarah Palin, if they choose to run again.
>
> David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] Rod Goke Remembrance at TCR

[Linda Palit]

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Linda Palit wrote:

> Well, I think this is the Terminal Siphons tribute to Rod, cause he was
> always their sound man at TCR and sometimes at convention.   Seems to me
> that that works, and I assume there will be another more formal celebration
> of his life/mourning of his death.  They'll have the stage for a good long
> while, so I suspect it will just be a piece of the picture.
>
> Cheers either way -- celebrate life; it is temporary.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Gill Edigar  wrote:
>
>> I didn't dictate anything. I very carefully let it be known that it was
>> just something I was against. And I told no one what to do one way or the
>> other. In 30-something years of TCR this will be only the 2nd time that
>> death was celebrated. I'm only an observer.
>> --Ediger
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Diana Tomchick <
>> diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Ediger,
>>>
>>> You have become a Grumpy Old Man. Who made you the King of TCR, that you
>>> could dictate to everyone how and when they wish to grieve and memorialize
>>> their friend?
>>>
>>> Diana
>>>
>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>> Diana R. Tomchick
>>> Associate Professor
>>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>>> Department of Biochemistry
>>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>>> Rm. ND10.214B
>>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'm not going to belabor the point but I want to go on record (for
>>> about the 10th time) in saying that I am against having wakes at TCR. They
>>> are, at best, incompatible both in purpose and in timeliness. Have memorial
>>> services and the like at a different time and specific purpose event. It
>>> detracts from both to mix them.
>>> >
>>> > Also, Ron Miller is keeper of the "Dead Texas Cavers List" and needs to
>>> be notified if he hasn't already picked up on it.
>>> > --Ediger
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Allan B. Cobb  wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > The news of the passing of Rod Goke was sudden and unexpected. Rod
>>> always set sound for TCR and for the Terminal Syphons when they played. At
>>> TCR the Terminal Syphons are going to do a tribute to Rod. I would like at
>>> ask people to bring pictures of Rod to TCR. I will bring a flat scanner for
>>> prints and try to get a slide scanner.  If you have digital pictures please
>>> bring them on a flash drive.
>>> >
>>> > Allan
>>> >
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[Texascavers] TCMA at TCR

[Linda Palit]

Hey, Cavers!

TCR is almost here!  People will be at Flat Creek Thursday setting up (and
we can always use more help), and TCMA will be putting up the usual tables
for membership, the new *Passages*, and tshirt sales!  We also have a
special offering that you will hear more about later.

There will be *NO Garage Sale* this year; we were needing lots of  trucks to
take things that did not sell to Good Will or whatever.  Save those gems for
the auction at Spring Conventionl.

Sunday we will have breakfast at 7:30 and our meeting will be at 9am.  You
will be able to hear from the candidates running for TCMA Board at the
meeting.  The election is by email or snail mail this year.

Start packing!  It's going to be a great one.

[Texascavers] TCMA at TCR

[Linda Palit]

TCR is almost her, and the weather looks grand.
It will be a busy weekend, but fit in a few TCMA events while you are there.

Saturday the TCMA tent and table will be up, and we'd love to have you come
by, visit, buy a t-shirt or two, and renew your membership.  We also have
continuing donations if you are willing to support the ongoing work of TCMA,
A new edition of *Passages* will also be available.

Sunday morning we will be having the TCMA breakfast for a $5 donation.
Please bring your own coffee cup and plate; we will have a variety of
breakfast tacos.

After breakfast, there will be a TCMA Members Meeting at 9am, Our elections
are by email or snail mail this year, but the candidates will ask for your
support and talk about what they see as the future for TCMA.

Re: [Texascavers] Photos at TCR

[Linda Palit]

We'll miss you, Butch.
Sorry to hear you can't make it this year.


On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Butch Fralia wrote:

> While you’re enjoying TCR, take lots of photos suitable for posting on the
> TSA website.  I won’t be there this year so will have to depend on others to
> get the photos.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> Butch Fralia
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Texascavers] recycling

[Linda Palit]

Thanks, Sam.  You're the best.
No bottles, right?

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Sam Young  wrote:

>   As usual, there will be recycling containers for aluminum cans and
> plastic bottles.  Two will be near the cook’s camp.  I will need to get home
> by noon Sunday (company coming) and so please do not wait too late Sunday
> morning to get your recyclables together.  .. Sam
>

[Texascavers] Sinking Cove Successful Rescue

[Linda Palit]

http://www.waff.com/story/14749749/tenn-rescue-crews-trying-to-free-man-in-c
ave

Link to article and info on successful Sinking Cove rescue.

Re: [Texascavers] Sinking Cove Successful Rescue

[Linda Palit]

Locations in TAG are much more public than in Texas--long term practice for 
better or worse, and partly because there are so many caves.  Sinking Cove may 
be a SCCI cave- guess I'll look that up.

Via clumsy I-thumbs 

On May 31, 2011, at 10:23 AM, John P Brooks  wrote:

> The article had links to a flickr slide show of the cave. And it also had a 
> link to a google map location for the cave.
> 
> --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Tim Stich  wrote:
> 
> From: Tim Stich 
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Sinking Cove Successful Rescue
> To: "Linda Palit" 
> Cc: "texascavers@texascavers.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 9:55 AM
> 
> It's funny how news agencies all report that the man was "trapped" in the 
> cave, which to me would indicate he had something pinning him down or that a 
> collapse prevented getting out of the cave. News writers really don't 
> appreciate that cavers are happy underground and that they put themselves 
> there on purpose. So being underground a little longer than planned is just 
> perhaps inconvenient.
>  
> Maybe they could rewrite the story along those lines: "An injured 51-year-old 
> caver got to stay in the cave longer than expected as he was helped along by 
> rescuers."
> 
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Linda Palit  wrote:
> http://www.waff.com/story/14749749/tenn-rescue-crews-trying-to-free-man-in-cave
> 
> Link to article and info on successful Sinking Cove rescue.
> 
> 

[Texascavers] Conservation Workshop at Cave Without a Name

[Linda Palit]

A Cave Conservation and Restoration Workshop will be held at Cave Without a
Name on April 9 and10th.  

I am helping coordinate registration, and wanted to remind all that this
will be in two weeks.  We need the names of those interested in attending to
verify numbers.  

 

 

Cave damage, whether unintentional or malicious in nature, degrades the
beauty of the underground world.  Some damage can be undone through
restoration and repair.  Join Cave Conservation Specialists Jim Werker and
Val Hildrith Werker in a two day workshop focusing on conservation,
restoration and speleothem repair.  Learn do-no-harm techniques and
experience hands-on satisfaction as you see previously hidden areas of
beauty re-emerge.

 

 

Cave Restoration Workshop Details

. Check in at 9am Saturday at CWAN

. Workshop hours - 9:30 to 5pm Saturday, 9am to noon Sunday

. Camping available on site

. Please bring any clean restoration tools you have (new sponges,
buckets, scrub brushes, vinyl or latex gloves, knee pads, spray bottles,
restoration sprayers, plastic or nylon scrapers for mud on flowstone

. Please observe WNS decontamination procedures on all personal and
resto gear

. Workshop limited to first 25 people

 

For more information call me (210 699 1388), or email me at this email or at
lindacaveworks...@gmail.com

Suggested donation: $10

 

Thanks, and looking forward to TSA Spring Convention!

It looks great!

 

Linda

[Texascavers] San Antonio Road Work

[Linda Palit]

In SA, 1604 intersection with IH35 will be closed 9pm to morning Friday
night and Saturday night and Sunday night.  If you are coming south late,
avoid that intersection or expect slow detours.

 

Just heard the above on the radio and checked it on TxDot.  Seems to be a
place to avoid after 9pm tonight. 

Looking forward to seeing you at Spring Convention.

RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

[Linda Palit]

And to ELLIE for putting it all together and holding it all together!

Great Spring Convention, Guys!  

Many Thanks to All.

 

From: ellie :) [mailto:ellie.tho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:20 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

 

We had a great turn out for the 2011 TSA Spring Convention in Brackettville
with over 100 in attendance.

 

Thank you to all who attended and to all who helped to make the convention a
success!

 

I would like to give special thanks to the following:

*   Mallory Mayeux for enthusiastically recruiting speakers and for
entertaining us during the TCMA fundraising auction.

*   Roger Moore for being dedicated to having a great line-up of
speakers for the convention and for hauling 4 kegs of beer to and from the
convention from Spoetzl Brewery. 
*   Stefan Creaser for masterminding Saturday dinner and all the work
involved with that. 
*   Leslie Bell for slaving away in the kitchen all day for the Saturday
dinner, and for the prep work done weekends before. 
*   Vico for masterminding with Stefan to create a delicious BBQ dinner.
Yum. 
*   Chris Francke for slaving away in the kitchen all day for the
Saturday dinner, and for transporting, setting-up, and running the AV system
during talks and the evening show. 
*   Michael Cicherski for doing registration and for taking care of all
the money.
*   Mark Alman for finally getting out of my hair so I could be
president for a day...and for all the help leading up to convention. 
*   Marvin Miller for chairing the Map Salon and for soliciting lots of
entries. 
*   Don Arburn for chairing the Photo Salon and making sure the photos. 
*   Fritz Holt for stepping up at the last minute to organize and lead
the convoys of cavers through Kickapoo Caverns.
*   Rod Goke for willingly providing AV for the Convention. 
*   Jim Kennedy for the TCMA auction.
*   Andrea Croskrey for displaying Texas spirit while assisting the TCMA
fundraising auction.
*   Saj Zappitello for organizing the TCMA auction and soliciting for
items, and for lending me that red dress. 
*   Joe Ranzau for being at my beckncall. 
*   Vendors for making sure we all know whats going on. 
*   David Ochel and Becky Jones for putting on the Gear Adjustment
Workshop.
*   Bill Steele for hooking cavers up with Shiner beer!!! 
*   Diana Tomchick for Margarita Happy Hour.
*   Pete Strickland for making sure no caver camp goes without a
campfire.
*   Bexar Grotto for lending an ear and a hand during and before the
convention. 
*   EVERYONE else who helped out...Im sure I have left someone out. 

RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

[Linda Palit]

Stefan!

Huge thanks for the cooking work you organize and do!

The lack of CRISES and the AMAZING food is Wonderful!

And I know how hard that is to pull off.

We all appreciate it.

 

 

From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:11 AM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; ellie :); texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

 

Get well soon Mark, we missed ya!

 

I would like to thank, again: Chris, Leslie and Vico for spending most of
the day in the kitchen (as well as time before cooking and shopping), and
the various other people who stopped by and were given a knife to use!
Thanks!! Also to Stephen Bryant for organising the serving line so y'all
could get fed efficiently.

 

Big thanks to Crash for taking and returning all the cooks equipment in the
TSA (TSS?) trailer, allowing me to enjoy (?!) the ride out there on my
'Bike.

 

Cheers,

Stefan

 

 

 

From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:53 AM
To: ellie :); texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

 

I especially want to thank Ellie for a great job, once again, and for
Michael for holding down registration.

 

And a HUGE thanks to Fritz Holt for pinch hitting for me for the Kickapoo
Cavern trips Sunday.

 

I really wanted to be more active in the whole Convention weekend, but a
rude wakeup call at 3 AM from a 6-7mm size kidney stone changed my plans.

 

Instead, my lovely wife accompanied me to Val Verde Hospital in Del Rio
where I spent most of Saturday in a morphine-induced haze until a stent was
inserted.

 

I came out of surgery around the time of the TSA Business Meeting and would
have much rather been at the Convention than in recovery.

 

All in all, it was a very interesting weekend and thanks to all who helped
and, thank God, my wife, who never goes to caving events ordinarily, decided
to come to this one!

 

 

Great location, as well, and I hope we go there again!

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: ellie :) [mailto:ellie.tho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:20 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

 

We had a great turn out for the 2011 TSA Spring Convention in Brackettville
with over 100 in attendance.

 

Thank you to all who attended and to all who helped to make the convention a
success!

 

I would like to give special thanks to the following:

*   Mallory Mayeux for enthusiastically recruiting speakers and for
entertaining us during the TCMA fundraising auction.

*   Roger Moore for being dedicated to having a great line-up of
speakers for the convention and for hauling 4 kegs of beer to and from the
convention from Spoetzl Brewery. 
*   Stefan Creaser for masterminding Saturday dinner and all the work
involved with that. 
*   Leslie Bell for slaving away in the kitchen all day for the Saturday
dinner, and for the prep work done weekends before. 
*   Vico for masterminding with Stefan to create a delicious BBQ dinner.
Yum. 
*   Chris Francke for slaving away in the kitchen all day for the
Saturday dinner, and for transporting, setting-up, and running the AV system
during talks and the evening show. 
*   Michael Cicherski for doing registration and for taking care of all
the money.
*   Mark Alman for finally getting out of my hair so I could be
president for a day...and for all the help leading up to convention. 
*   Marvin Miller for chairing the Map Salon and for soliciting lots of
entries. 
*   Don Arburn for chairing the Photo Salon and making sure the photos. 
*   Fritz Holt for stepping up at the last minute to organize and lead
the convoys of cavers through Kickapoo Caverns.
*   Rod Goke for willingly providing AV for the Convention. 
*   Jim Kennedy for the TCMA auction.
*   Andrea Croskrey for displaying Texas spirit while assisting the TCMA
fundraising auction.
*   Saj Zappitello for organizing the TCMA auction and soliciting for
items, and for lending me that red dress. 
*   Joe Ranzau for being at my beckncall. 
*   Vendors for making sure we all know whats going on. 
*   David Ochel and Becky Jones for putting on the Gear Adjustment
Workshop.
*   Bill Steele for hooking cavers up with Shiner beer!!! 
*   Diana Tomchick for Margarita Happy Hour.
*   Pete Strickland for making sure no caver camp goes without a
campfire.
*   Bexar Grotto for lending an ear and a hand during and before the
convention. 
*   EVERYONE else who helped out...Im sure I have left someone out. 


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[Texascavers] Cave Conservation and Restoration Workshop Postponed

[Linda Palit]

The Cave Conservation and Restoration Workshop scheduled at Cave Without A
Name for this weekend is being postponed due to unforeseen circumstances.

A new date will be posted soon.

I believe all participants have been personally notified, or will be soon.  

If you are interested in receiving information on the workshop and the new
date, please let me know, and I will keep you informed.  

 

Thanks, 

Linda

[Texascavers] Jim Jasek's Heart Surgery - Doing Well

[Linda Palit]

Jim Jasek found out yesterday that he was having heart trouble and went into
the hospital this morning for heart surgery.   


Mimi Jasek says (on facebook for Jim), "Jim is in ICU. Doctor really pleased
with surgery and Jim's physical response. If all goes well, ICU for 2 days,
then floor for 3-5 days, then home or rehab for couple weeks then home. 5
bypasses, which doctor says is good as it ensures even more blood to heart.
Will post as can. Thanks for all the concern and well wishing. Mimi


 

His daughters says he is in Providence Hospital in Waco.  The last email I
have for him is caver...@hot.rr.com ; perhaps somebody can correct it if
that is not correct.  

Re: [Texascavers] Caving Brochures

[Linda Palit]

Some things are worth doing again. Some aren't.

Via clumsy I-thumbs 

On Apr 19, 2011, at 4:26 PM, "Carl Kunath"  wrote:

> Such things have been done in the past.  Abilene Grotto and Dallas Ft. Worth 
> Grotto spearheaded those efforts.
>  
> See 50 Years of Texas Caving, pages 188, 268, and 275.
>  
> ===Carl Kunath
> - Original Message -
> From: Bill Bentley
> To: Texas Cavers
> 
> Some well made brochures would be nice to hand out to new cavers at grotto 
> meetings.
> Just a thought.
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:30 AM
> To: Texas Cavers
> Subject: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...
>  
>  
> But, what can the TSA do for you!
>  

[Texascavers] Jasek Update

[Linda Palit]

 


Jim Jasek is out of ICU and in the cardiac unit, Room 382, Providence
Hospital, Waco.  Good progress, but a long road to recovery, as some of you
guys already know.  

 

 

Re: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.

[Linda Palit]

Two different Jim Beall's are bring discussed here.  One died in the 70's, I 
think.  The other briefly caved around SA in the 80's, then moved to DC.

Via clumsy I-thumbs 

On May 8, 2011, at 5:45 PM, "George Veni"  wrote:

> Jim Beall was a Bexar Grotto member in the late 80’s and I think the early 
> 90s. As I recall, he moved out of state but I don’t recall where. Linda Palit 
> may know more.
> 
>  
> 
> George
> 
>  
> 
> From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org] 
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 16:39
> To: 'texas cavers'
> Subject: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the 
> cave related links page.
> 
>  
> 
> Does this name ring a bell with anyone?
> 
>  
> 
> From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM
> To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
> Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links 
> page.
> 
>  
> 
> I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 
> 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County.  Could you share
> 
> any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
> 

[Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck

[Linda Palit]

Offering my truck to CAVERS first--2000 Toyota Tacoma.  180,000 miles.
 Maintained but time for a bunch of work- clutch slipping a little,
suspension needs some work, etc,etc. nothing huge, but...

Contact me off list if interested.  $4000
Linda

Re: [Texascavers] Update on Mallory

[Linda Palit]

Thanks.Em

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013, Emily McGowan wrote:

> **
>
> Thanks to Krista Keen for this update, posted on Facebook this morning:
>
> Update from Steve (her Daddy): "As of 8:30 this morning, Mallory is
> showing signs of life. She responds to poking and prodding, and has opened
> her eyes, moved her fingers and hands, and moves her tongue in an attempt
> to get the feeding tube out of her throat. She’s not awake, but her brain
> is operating and now that the paralytics are gone, she can move a little.
> She is still on a strong dose of sedative, as they do not want her coming
> around too fast. (The stuff she’s on is propofol, same as what killed
> Michael Jackson. It’s one of those “do not try this at home” deals.) On the
> negative side, she has a slight case of pneumonia, and that’s being treated
> with antibiotics. There’s also a few other problems, but nothing
> spectacular. All in all, it’s an improvement. The doctors don’t want us
> getting too optimistic, but Vickie and I are celebrating. It’s been a long
> ten days, and we need this."
>
> Emily
>

Re: [Texascavers] Rode Goke

[Linda Palit]

Sad news indeed.  Rod was always great, dependable and precise in whatever
he did that I saw.
Hope it was gentle for him.



On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:02 PM, caverarch  wrote:

>  Martha very kindly called me to let me know, since she was aware we were
> old friends.   I just wrote this to her after hearing from Rod's father.  I
> have written several people in Florida (where we met as new cavers in the
> late Sixties) privately before hearing from Rod's dad.
>
> Roger Moore, Houston
> -Original Message-
> From: caverarch 
> To: mmeacham ; marthas_ear 
> Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:38 pm
> Subject: Rod's father just called me
>
>  Martha,
>
>  I was on a list of people from Florida to contact in this sort of
> situation. I was surprised that he would be doing such a thing right now,
> but he did.  It was a friend that looked after his house when Rod was away
> (and vice versa) who got worried when Rod did not retiurn calls after a
> couple of days.  This person came to the house and found Rod's cars there,
> and an overflowing mail box. so they called the police.  He was found in
> bed, which at least seems to indicate a peaceful death, I hope.
>
>  So that's all the additional information I have for now.  Thank you again
> for letting me know.
>
>  Roger
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Linda Palit]

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:

> Howdy y'all,
>
> It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be
> good for the weekend.
>
> Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of
> $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.
>  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we
> can work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not
> credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
>
> TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year,
> after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The
> bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An
> important part of registration is the liability release to be on the
> property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going around
> and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who
> don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there
> and everyone else paying for you.
>
> I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
> friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have
> some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest
> where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and
> you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
>
> See y'all there!
> Allan
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] TCMA feedback

[Linda Palit]

Well, having candidates is a good thing.  I am very pleased we have
candidates willing to serve.  TCMA board takes a great deal of time, energy,
and work.  Giving the members a chance to vote is also a good thing.  If a
person is not elected as board member, there is still much work to do, and
all meetings are open (with the option of short private sessions).  To not
be voted a board member is not an awful thing -- lots involved and slots to
fill as far as skills.  We need more involvement, but constructive criticism
is always welcome, David, so feel free to volunteer to help out in some
capacity.  We would welcome your assistance (and you have helped us in the
past!).

The reason for not having 5 positions is that the current bylaws do not
provide for that.  Fairness is relative, and no matter what efforts are
made, somebody thinks it is unfair.

Thanks for the feedback, and feel free to vote.
Linda

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, David  wrote:

> You asked for feedback.
>
> Here is your dilemma:You have 5 awesome really cool candidates for
> 4 positions.Right ?   Or did
> I misunderstand that ?
>
> Why not just have 5 positions and be done with it and spare us from
> all the frickin politics ?
>
> The election is biased and un-fair to begin with. It would be more
> fair to flip a coin, or to
> draw straws, etc.
>
> Since that is not going to happen, why not let the 5th candidate or
> the one you are trying to week out,
>  serve as Apprentice Board Member or something to that effect, so that
> at the next election
> they won't look like Sarah Palin, if they choose to run again.
>
> David Locklear
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Rod Goke Remembrance at TCR

[Linda Palit]

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Linda Palit wrote:

> Well, I think this is the Terminal Siphons tribute to Rod, cause he was
> always their sound man at TCR and sometimes at convention.   Seems to me
> that that works, and I assume there will be another more formal celebration
> of his life/mourning of his death.  They'll have the stage for a good long
> while, so I suspect it will just be a piece of the picture.
>
> Cheers either way -- celebrate life; it is temporary.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Gill Edigar  wrote:
>
>> I didn't dictate anything. I very carefully let it be known that it was
>> just something I was against. And I told no one what to do one way or the
>> other. In 30-something years of TCR this will be only the 2nd time that
>> death was celebrated. I'm only an observer.
>> --Ediger
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Diana Tomchick <
>> diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Ediger,
>>>
>>> You have become a Grumpy Old Man. Who made you the King of TCR, that you
>>> could dictate to everyone how and when they wish to grieve and memorialize
>>> their friend?
>>>
>>> Diana
>>>
>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>> Diana R. Tomchick
>>> Associate Professor
>>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>>> Department of Biochemistry
>>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>>> Rm. ND10.214B
>>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'm not going to belabor the point but I want to go on record (for
>>> about the 10th time) in saying that I am against having wakes at TCR. They
>>> are, at best, incompatible both in purpose and in timeliness. Have memorial
>>> services and the like at a different time and specific purpose event. It
>>> detracts from both to mix them.
>>> >
>>> > Also, Ron Miller is keeper of the "Dead Texas Cavers List" and needs to
>>> be notified if he hasn't already picked up on it.
>>> > --Ediger
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Allan B. Cobb  wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > The news of the passing of Rod Goke was sudden and unexpected. Rod
>>> always set sound for TCR and for the Terminal Syphons when they played. At
>>> TCR the Terminal Syphons are going to do a tribute to Rod. I would like at
>>> ask people to bring pictures of Rod to TCR. I will bring a flat scanner for
>>> prints and try to get a slide scanner.  If you have digital pictures please
>>> bring them on a flash drive.
>>> >
>>> > Allan
>>> >
>>> > Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone
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>>>
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[Texascavers] TCMA at TCR

[Linda Palit]

Hey, Cavers!

TCR is almost here!  People will be at Flat Creek Thursday setting up (and
we can always use more help), and TCMA will be putting up the usual tables
for membership, the new *Passages*, and tshirt sales!  We also have a
special offering that you will hear more about later.

There will be *NO Garage Sale* this year; we were needing lots of  trucks to
take things that did not sell to Good Will or whatever.  Save those gems for
the auction at Spring Conventionl.

Sunday we will have breakfast at 7:30 and our meeting will be at 9am.  You
will be able to hear from the candidates running for TCMA Board at the
meeting.  The election is by email or snail mail this year.

Start packing!  It's going to be a great one.

[Texascavers] TCMA at TCR

[Linda Palit]

TCR is almost her, and the weather looks grand.
It will be a busy weekend, but fit in a few TCMA events while you are there.

Saturday the TCMA tent and table will be up, and we'd love to have you come
by, visit, buy a t-shirt or two, and renew your membership.  We also have
continuing donations if you are willing to support the ongoing work of TCMA,
A new edition of *Passages* will also be available.

Sunday morning we will be having the TCMA breakfast for a $5 donation.
Please bring your own coffee cup and plate; we will have a variety of
breakfast tacos.

After breakfast, there will be a TCMA Members Meeting at 9am, Our elections
are by email or snail mail this year, but the candidates will ask for your
support and talk about what they see as the future for TCMA.

Re: [Texascavers] Photos at TCR

[Linda Palit]

We'll miss you, Butch.
Sorry to hear you can't make it this year.


On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Butch Fralia wrote:

> While you’re enjoying TCR, take lots of photos suitable for posting on the
> TSA website.  I won’t be there this year so will have to depend on others to
> get the photos.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> Butch Fralia
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Texascavers] recycling

[Linda Palit]

Thanks, Sam.  You're the best.
No bottles, right?

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Sam Young  wrote:

>   As usual, there will be recycling containers for aluminum cans and
> plastic bottles.  Two will be near the cook’s camp.  I will need to get home
> by noon Sunday (company coming) and so please do not wait too late Sunday
> morning to get your recyclables together.  .. Sam
>

[Texascavers] Sinking Cove Successful Rescue

[Linda Palit]

http://www.waff.com/story/14749749/tenn-rescue-crews-trying-to-free-man-in-c
ave

Link to article and info on successful Sinking Cove rescue.

Re: [Texascavers] Sinking Cove Successful Rescue

[Linda Palit]

Locations in TAG are much more public than in Texas--long term practice for 
better or worse, and partly because there are so many caves.  Sinking Cove may 
be a SCCI cave- guess I'll look that up.

Via clumsy I-thumbs 

On May 31, 2011, at 10:23 AM, John P Brooks  wrote:

> The article had links to a flickr slide show of the cave. And it also had a 
> link to a google map location for the cave.
> 
> --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Tim Stich  wrote:
> 
> From: Tim Stich 
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Sinking Cove Successful Rescue
> To: "Linda Palit" 
> Cc: "texascavers@texascavers.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 9:55 AM
> 
> It's funny how news agencies all report that the man was "trapped" in the 
> cave, which to me would indicate he had something pinning him down or that a 
> collapse prevented getting out of the cave. News writers really don't 
> appreciate that cavers are happy underground and that they put themselves 
> there on purpose. So being underground a little longer than planned is just 
> perhaps inconvenient.
>  
> Maybe they could rewrite the story along those lines: "An injured 51-year-old 
> caver got to stay in the cave longer than expected as he was helped along by 
> rescuers."
> 
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Linda Palit  wrote:
> http://www.waff.com/story/14749749/tenn-rescue-crews-trying-to-free-man-in-cave
> 
> Link to article and info on successful Sinking Cove rescue.
> 
> 

[Texascavers] Conservation Workshop at Cave Without a Name

[Linda Palit]

A Cave Conservation and Restoration Workshop will be held at Cave Without a
Name on April 9 and10th.  

I am helping coordinate registration, and wanted to remind all that this
will be in two weeks.  We need the names of those interested in attending to
verify numbers.  

 

 

Cave damage, whether unintentional or malicious in nature, degrades the
beauty of the underground world.  Some damage can be undone through
restoration and repair.  Join Cave Conservation Specialists Jim Werker and
Val Hildrith Werker in a two day workshop focusing on conservation,
restoration and speleothem repair.  Learn do-no-harm techniques and
experience hands-on satisfaction as you see previously hidden areas of
beauty re-emerge.

 

 

Cave Restoration Workshop Details

. Check in at 9am Saturday at CWAN

. Workshop hours - 9:30 to 5pm Saturday, 9am to noon Sunday

. Camping available on site

. Please bring any clean restoration tools you have (new sponges,
buckets, scrub brushes, vinyl or latex gloves, knee pads, spray bottles,
restoration sprayers, plastic or nylon scrapers for mud on flowstone

. Please observe WNS decontamination procedures on all personal and
resto gear

. Workshop limited to first 25 people

 

For more information call me (210 699 1388), or email me at this email or at
lindacaveworks...@gmail.com

Suggested donation: $10

 

Thanks, and looking forward to TSA Spring Convention!

It looks great!

 

Linda

[Texascavers] San Antonio Road Work

[Linda Palit]

In SA, 1604 intersection with IH35 will be closed 9pm to morning Friday
night and Saturday night and Sunday night.  If you are coming south late,
avoid that intersection or expect slow detours.

 

Just heard the above on the radio and checked it on TxDot.  Seems to be a
place to avoid after 9pm tonight. 

Looking forward to seeing you at Spring Convention.

RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

[Linda Palit]

And to ELLIE for putting it all together and holding it all together!

Great Spring Convention, Guys!  

Many Thanks to All.

 

From: ellie :) [mailto:ellie.tho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:20 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

 

We had a great turn out for the 2011 TSA Spring Convention in Brackettville
with over 100 in attendance.

 

Thank you to all who attended and to all who helped to make the convention a
success!

 

I would like to give special thanks to the following:

*   Mallory Mayeux for enthusiastically recruiting speakers and for
entertaining us during the TCMA fundraising auction.

*   Roger Moore for being dedicated to having a great line-up of
speakers for the convention and for hauling 4 kegs of beer to and from the
convention from Spoetzl Brewery. 
*   Stefan Creaser for masterminding Saturday dinner and all the work
involved with that. 
*   Leslie Bell for slaving away in the kitchen all day for the Saturday
dinner, and for the prep work done weekends before. 
*   Vico for masterminding with Stefan to create a delicious BBQ dinner.
Yum. 
*   Chris Francke for slaving away in the kitchen all day for the
Saturday dinner, and for transporting, setting-up, and running the AV system
during talks and the evening show. 
*   Michael Cicherski for doing registration and for taking care of all
the money.
*   Mark Alman for finally getting out of my hair so I could be
president for a day...and for all the help leading up to convention. 
*   Marvin Miller for chairing the Map Salon and for soliciting lots of
entries. 
*   Don Arburn for chairing the Photo Salon and making sure the photos. 
*   Fritz Holt for stepping up at the last minute to organize and lead
the convoys of cavers through Kickapoo Caverns.
*   Rod Goke for willingly providing AV for the Convention. 
*   Jim Kennedy for the TCMA auction.
*   Andrea Croskrey for displaying Texas spirit while assisting the TCMA
fundraising auction.
*   Saj Zappitello for organizing the TCMA auction and soliciting for
items, and for lending me that red dress. 
*   Joe Ranzau for being at my beckncall. 
*   Vendors for making sure we all know whats going on. 
*   David Ochel and Becky Jones for putting on the Gear Adjustment
Workshop.
*   Bill Steele for hooking cavers up with Shiner beer!!! 
*   Diana Tomchick for Margarita Happy Hour.
*   Pete Strickland for making sure no caver camp goes without a
campfire.
*   Bexar Grotto for lending an ear and a hand during and before the
convention. 
*   EVERYONE else who helped out...Im sure I have left someone out. 

RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

[Linda Palit]

Stefan!

Huge thanks for the cooking work you organize and do!

The lack of CRISES and the AMAZING food is Wonderful!

And I know how hard that is to pull off.

We all appreciate it.

 

 

From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:11 AM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; ellie :); texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

 

Get well soon Mark, we missed ya!

 

I would like to thank, again: Chris, Leslie and Vico for spending most of
the day in the kitchen (as well as time before cooking and shopping), and
the various other people who stopped by and were given a knife to use!
Thanks!! Also to Stephen Bryant for organising the serving line so y'all
could get fed efficiently.

 

Big thanks to Crash for taking and returning all the cooks equipment in the
TSA (TSS?) trailer, allowing me to enjoy (?!) the ride out there on my
'Bike.

 

Cheers,

Stefan

 

 

 

From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:53 AM
To: ellie :); texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

 

I especially want to thank Ellie for a great job, once again, and for
Michael for holding down registration.

 

And a HUGE thanks to Fritz Holt for pinch hitting for me for the Kickapoo
Cavern trips Sunday.

 

I really wanted to be more active in the whole Convention weekend, but a
rude wakeup call at 3 AM from a 6-7mm size kidney stone changed my plans.

 

Instead, my lovely wife accompanied me to Val Verde Hospital in Del Rio
where I spent most of Saturday in a morphine-induced haze until a stent was
inserted.

 

I came out of surgery around the time of the TSA Business Meeting and would
have much rather been at the Convention than in recovery.

 

All in all, it was a very interesting weekend and thanks to all who helped
and, thank God, my wife, who never goes to caving events ordinarily, decided
to come to this one!

 

 

Great location, as well, and I hope we go there again!

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: ellie :) [mailto:ellie.tho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:20 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention-thanks!

 

We had a great turn out for the 2011 TSA Spring Convention in Brackettville
with over 100 in attendance.

 

Thank you to all who attended and to all who helped to make the convention a
success!

 

I would like to give special thanks to the following:

*   Mallory Mayeux for enthusiastically recruiting speakers and for
entertaining us during the TCMA fundraising auction.

*   Roger Moore for being dedicated to having a great line-up of
speakers for the convention and for hauling 4 kegs of beer to and from the
convention from Spoetzl Brewery. 
*   Stefan Creaser for masterminding Saturday dinner and all the work
involved with that. 
*   Leslie Bell for slaving away in the kitchen all day for the Saturday
dinner, and for the prep work done weekends before. 
*   Vico for masterminding with Stefan to create a delicious BBQ dinner.
Yum. 
*   Chris Francke for slaving away in the kitchen all day for the
Saturday dinner, and for transporting, setting-up, and running the AV system
during talks and the evening show. 
*   Michael Cicherski for doing registration and for taking care of all
the money.
*   Mark Alman for finally getting out of my hair so I could be
president for a day...and for all the help leading up to convention. 
*   Marvin Miller for chairing the Map Salon and for soliciting lots of
entries. 
*   Don Arburn for chairing the Photo Salon and making sure the photos. 
*   Fritz Holt for stepping up at the last minute to organize and lead
the convoys of cavers through Kickapoo Caverns.
*   Rod Goke for willingly providing AV for the Convention. 
*   Jim Kennedy for the TCMA auction.
*   Andrea Croskrey for displaying Texas spirit while assisting the TCMA
fundraising auction.
*   Saj Zappitello for organizing the TCMA auction and soliciting for
items, and for lending me that red dress. 
*   Joe Ranzau for being at my beckncall. 
*   Vendors for making sure we all know whats going on. 
*   David Ochel and Becky Jones for putting on the Gear Adjustment
Workshop.
*   Bill Steele for hooking cavers up with Shiner beer!!! 
*   Diana Tomchick for Margarita Happy Hour.
*   Pete Strickland for making sure no caver camp goes without a
campfire.
*   Bexar Grotto for lending an ear and a hand during and before the
convention. 
*   EVERYONE else who helped out...Im sure I have left someone out. 


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[Texascavers] Cave Conservation and Restoration Workshop Postponed

[Linda Palit]

The Cave Conservation and Restoration Workshop scheduled at Cave Without A
Name for this weekend is being postponed due to unforeseen circumstances.

A new date will be posted soon.

I believe all participants have been personally notified, or will be soon.  

If you are interested in receiving information on the workshop and the new
date, please let me know, and I will keep you informed.  

 

Thanks, 

Linda

[Texascavers] Jim Jasek's Heart Surgery - Doing Well

[Linda Palit]

Jim Jasek found out yesterday that he was having heart trouble and went into
the hospital this morning for heart surgery.   


Mimi Jasek says (on facebook for Jim), "Jim is in ICU. Doctor really pleased
with surgery and Jim's physical response. If all goes well, ICU for 2 days,
then floor for 3-5 days, then home or rehab for couple weeks then home. 5
bypasses, which doctor says is good as it ensures even more blood to heart.
Will post as can. Thanks for all the concern and well wishing. Mimi


 

His daughters says he is in Providence Hospital in Waco.  The last email I
have for him is caver...@hot.rr.com ; perhaps somebody can correct it if
that is not correct.  

Re: [Texascavers] Caving Brochures

[Linda Palit]

Some things are worth doing again. Some aren't.

Via clumsy I-thumbs 

On Apr 19, 2011, at 4:26 PM, "Carl Kunath"  wrote:

> Such things have been done in the past.  Abilene Grotto and Dallas Ft. Worth 
> Grotto spearheaded those efforts.
>  
> See 50 Years of Texas Caving, pages 188, 268, and 275.
>  
> ===Carl Kunath
> - Original Message -
> From: Bill Bentley
> To: Texas Cavers
> 
> Some well made brochures would be nice to hand out to new cavers at grotto 
> meetings.
> Just a thought.
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:30 AM
> To: Texas Cavers
> Subject: Ask Not What You Can Do For The TSA...
>  
>  
> But, what can the TSA do for you!
>  

[Texascavers] Jasek Update

[Linda Palit]

 


Jim Jasek is out of ICU and in the cardiac unit, Room 382, Providence
Hospital, Waco.  Good progress, but a long road to recovery, as some of you
guys already know.  

 

 

Re: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links page.

[Linda Palit]

Two different Jim Beall's are bring discussed here.  One died in the 70's, I 
think.  The other briefly caved around SA in the 80's, then moved to DC.

Via clumsy I-thumbs 

On May 8, 2011, at 5:45 PM, "George Veni"  wrote:

> Jim Beall was a Bexar Grotto member in the late 80’s and I think the early 
> 90s. As I recall, he moved out of state but I don’t recall where. Linda Palit 
> may know more.
> 
>  
> 
> George
> 
>  
> 
> From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org] 
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 16:39
> To: 'texas cavers'
> Subject: [Texascavers] FW: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the 
> cave related links page.
> 
>  
> 
> Does this name ring a bell with anyone?
> 
>  
> 
> From: Wanda L. Drisoll [mailto:wdrisc1...@suddenlink.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:54 PM
> To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
> Subject: To the TSS webmaster - Butch Fralia - from the cave related links 
> page.
> 
>  
> 
> I am seeking information regarding the death of a cave explorer in the 
> 1970's, maybe in Hays or Kendall County.  Could you share
> 
> any information with me regarding the decedent, james Beall?
> 

[Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck

[Linda Palit]

Offering my truck to CAVERS first--2000 Toyota Tacoma.  180,000 miles.
 Maintained but time for a bunch of work- clutch slipping a little,
suspension needs some work, etc,etc. nothing huge, but...

Contact me off list if interested.  $4000
Linda

Re: [Texascavers] Update on Mallory

[Linda Palit]

Thanks.Em

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013, Emily McGowan wrote:

> **
>
> Thanks to Krista Keen for this update, posted on Facebook this morning:
>
> Update from Steve (her Daddy): "As of 8:30 this morning, Mallory is
> showing signs of life. She responds to poking and prodding, and has opened
> her eyes, moved her fingers and hands, and moves her tongue in an attempt
> to get the feeding tube out of her throat. She’s not awake, but her brain
> is operating and now that the paralytics are gone, she can move a little.
> She is still on a strong dose of sedative, as they do not want her coming
> around too fast. (The stuff she’s on is propofol, same as what killed
> Michael Jackson. It’s one of those “do not try this at home” deals.) On the
> negative side, she has a slight case of pneumonia, and that’s being treated
> with antibiotics. There’s also a few other problems, but nothing
> spectacular. All in all, it’s an improvement. The doctors don’t want us
> getting too optimistic, but Vickie and I are celebrating. It’s been a long
> ten days, and we need this."
>
> Emily
>

[Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck

[Linda Palit]

Offering my truck to CAVERS first--2000 Toyota Tacoma.  180,000 miles.
 Maintained but time for a bunch of work- clutch slipping a little,
suspension needs some work, etc,etc. nothing huge, but...

Contact me off list if interested.  $4000
Linda

Re: [Texascavers] Update on Mallory

[Linda Palit]

Thanks.Em

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013, Emily McGowan wrote:

> **
>
> Thanks to Krista Keen for this update, posted on Facebook this morning:
>
> Update from Steve (her Daddy): "As of 8:30 this morning, Mallory is
> showing signs of life. She responds to poking and prodding, and has opened
> her eyes, moved her fingers and hands, and moves her tongue in an attempt
> to get the feeding tube out of her throat. She’s not awake, but her brain
> is operating and now that the paralytics are gone, she can move a little.
> She is still on a strong dose of sedative, as they do not want her coming
> around too fast. (The stuff she’s on is propofol, same as what killed
> Michael Jackson. It’s one of those “do not try this at home” deals.) On the
> negative side, she has a slight case of pneumonia, and that’s being treated
> with antibiotics. There’s also a few other problems, but nothing
> spectacular. All in all, it’s an improvement. The doctors don’t want us
> getting too optimistic, but Vickie and I are celebrating. It’s been a long
> ten days, and we need this."
>
> Emily
>

Re: [Texascavers] Words to Barb MacLeod songs

[Linda Palit]

And TCMA still has cd's and videos of the conference available for sale.

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, wrote:

> Newer cavers may remember Barb from a concert she gave in Burnet at a
> TSA Convention, a few years ago. Older cavers remember Barb and her cave
> ballads from the 70s, Bill Steele made a CD of what she did in Burnet. Barb
> just sent me a file of the words to those songs, and more. If you would
> like me to forward this file to you, let me know.
>
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[Texascavers] Kissy Kissy

[Linda Palit]

Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA house and all over south Texas they ate
around. It is a dangerous world.

Linda.

Re: [Texascavers] Kissy Kissy Pooh-Pooh

[Linda Palit]

No.  Serious.  I wonder what parasites, amoebae, whatever I have.  And glad
to still be kick in'!

On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Logan McNatt wrote:

>
> On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
> house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous world.
>
> Yeah Linda, I have too, even growing up in north central Texas
> (Brownwood).  But I never found the ones up here crawling on me at night or
> biting me, nor saw them commonly in caves.  And the ones in Central America
> are on steroids compared to those up here in terms of size and blood lust.
> It's not just the bugs you see, but the parasites you don't see.  According
> to what Barb initially told me, and what the CDC site says right now:  ". .
> .the parasite *Trypanosoma cruzi*, which is transmitted to animals and
> people by insect vectors and is found only in the Americas (mainly, in
> rural areas of Latin America where poverty is widespread).  Yeah, "it is a
> dangerous world".  You can get "pooh-poohed" anywhere, anytime!  Ha, gotcha!
>
> LowGun
>
>

[Texascavers] San Antonio's Bob Cowell facing health problems

[Linda Palit]

Bob has had a rough week, getting a diagnosis of esophageal cancer, and
then facing multiple tests to determine the prognosis.  He will NOT get the
results of any tests until after the holidays.  He and the family welcome
your positive thoughts, prayers, and positive communication. No BooHoo's or
hysteria of course, but feel free to email him good wishes if you are so
inclined. His address is bcow...@satx.rr.com or home is 5806 Cactus Sun, SA
78244.

Cheers, and have wonderful holidays,
Linda

Re: [Texascavers] Knee Pads

[Linda Palit]

I like howitzers. On rope carries them.

On Monday, September 10, 2012, Alex Sproul wrote:

> **
> On 10 Sep 2012 at 15:20, James Jasek wrote:
>
> What are the most comfortable knee pads made to wear on the outside of
> clothing.
>
>
>  
> *Crawldaddies*
>
> or
>
> *Dirty 
> Dave's*
>
>
>  Alex
>
>
>
>
>  --
> *Alex Sproul*
> *NSS 8086RL/FE*
> *NSS Webmaster*
> *www.caves.org* 
>

[Texascavers] TCR

[Linda Palit]

Awesome!   Thanks to Don, Ellie, and all the volunteers who make it happen.

[Texascavers] TCMA Breakfast at TCR

[Linda Palit]

THANKS to all for making the TCMA Breakfast happen.  There would be no
reason to cook if there were not hungry mouths to feed. And the people
coming out before dawn to prepare the food are noble!  I can get up but
these people can cook!

Great works, and gracias,
Linda

[Texascavers] Caver, articles, and interest

[Linda Palit]

I have read the responses to Denise's and Mark's appeals with interest.
Probably the hardest part of being Caver editor is getting articles, or
maybe it is that sneaking feeling that comes with most volunteer positions
that "nobody understands or appreciates.".

I will do an occasional series of interviews, both of newer and "seasoned"
cavers.  I will have the first one to Mark by the end of the month.  I
would also welcome suggestions of newer cavers to interview from grottos
not near SA.

Perhaps somebody could do some compilation from grotto newsletters (don't
read it if you think it is a bad idea)', somebody might do a gear review or
safety/techniques review occasionally, a review of events, and some of the
other ideas I read. Taking the initiative to take on one od these tasks is
pretty simple once you get past the idea that nobody wants to read that.

A few picture essays in the online part of the TC might be nice too..

It is always busy, but I do like the Caver.

Re: [Texascavers] Dirty old men

[Linda Palit]

I call this BAIT.

Linda

On Wednesday, June 6, 2012, wrote:

> **
> Caver cunnie is the best! Let's face it Cave Chicks are hot, that is why I
> go to cave gatherings. You think I do it for the caves? Yet another cold
> dark hole in the ground? No, I prefer warm. I have porked more
> different mud covered pud muffins due to chance encounters at the hot tub
> than at any other venue or from any other demographic group. Discos just
> don't work for me.
>
> As a case in point, after boffing various bimbos at various cave
> gatherings I met my life partner, the estimable Dr. Ann, some twenty or so
> years ago at the hot tub at the Old Timers. While recovering from a brutal
> hangover I saw what I thought to be an unknown hot caver chick headed for
> the tub so I set out in hot pursuit. I asked her name and she replied,
> "Maybe you will remember when I take my clothes off". Unfortunately I
> didn't and she was clearly hurt. Then suddenly I remembered, we had talked
> for hours several days before while she was naked and I was clothed. Then I
> tried out a standard line, "I only wanted to probe your mind". Despite
> Ann's high IQ it worked like a charm and she swooned. I turned to a friend
> and said, "This one's in the bag!"
>
> As for being a dirty old man and the improbability of actually scoring, I
> would remind you that it is better to be a dirty old man than any of the
> possible other alternatives. In my quiet moments I like to reflect upon
> conquests past. If only I could remember why? Perhaps some day I will
> achieve the status of my old caver friend Bill Berryhill who dearly loved
> women but who outlived his ability to do anything about it. Nevertheless he
> could still crawl and could still dream so nothing suited him better than
> to go down a hands and knees crawl close behind a beauteous butt and sniff
> the air for panties!
>
> Sleazeweazel
>
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] Dirty old men

[Linda Palit]

BAIT TAKEN -- Officially bored. Did not get through this. Hope the people
who did enjoyed it or are gratified that they stirred the pot.

On Wednesday, June 6, 2012, Andy
>
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.

[Linda Palit]

I regularly have these bugs on my back porch. Maybe I wil
 Collect them when they show up this year. It is usually August.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012, David Ochel wrote:

>
>
> - Forwarded message from gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org -
>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:20:36 -0500
>From: Geary Schindel 
>  Subject: FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.
>  To: 'David Ochel' 
>
> David,
>
> I'm having a problem as this message keeps getting bounced to Texas
> Cavers.  Can you post it for me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geary
>
>
>
> I tried to send this out last week but I think it got bounced.
>
> Geary
>
> Folks,
>
> Two medical researchers at Baylor University (Dr. Hotez and Dr. Murray)
> are interested in studying Triatomine Bugs (Kissing bug/Cone-nose
> Bug/Vinchuca) for Trypanosama cruzi.  This is the parasite that causes
> Chagus Disease in dogs and humans.  There is some discussion in the medical
> field whether Chagus has been transmitted to humans south Texas or whether
> most of the Chagus causes are representative of folks immigrating in from
> down south.  It has certainly been present in dogs and has resulted in a
> number of deaths in dogs. This is a pretty nasty disease and I've been told
> is responsible for about half of the heart transplant needs in Central and
> South America.  It causes all kinds of other health issues also.
>
> Anyway, the kissing bug is pretty common in south central Texas and I
> caught four of them in the Deep Cabin last weekend.  One had taken a blood
> meal (not good). They were shipped off for testing. I've also seen two
> bites on the Deep and Punkin Nature preserve property for kissing bugs.
>  The researchers are asking for folks to collect kissing bugs and submit
> them for testing.  Since cavers are commonly out and about and have their
> nose to the ground, I thought I would ask if anyone is interesting in
> helping with the study.  All you have to do is collect the bugs, fill out a
> short form, and send it in to the research along with the bug.  Here are
> two links on Chagus.  The bug can be dead or alive but not smushed. The
> links also include some pictures of the bug as they are around an inch or
> less long and have a real pointy nose.  Maybe we should rethink sleeping
> out without a tent or netting.
>
> If you would like to participate, please send me an email and I'll send
> you the address and other information.
>
>
> http://www.**allaboutchagasdisease.com/
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/**chagas/
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geary Schindel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] All caver.net mailing lists down

[Linda Palit]

Try two beers.

On Tuesday, July 3, 2012, Bill Bentley wrote:

> **
> The SOB's that tried to upgrade my web hosting service while I was at
> convention have attempted to fix a small problem with all of the 
> caver.netmailing lists and in the process deleted them all...
>
> I am not sure if it is fixable as I have been off and on the phone to
> morons for hours and besides not being able to understand them and them not
> able to understand me. Then they have no clue as to what I am talking about
> when I call in... Hard for them to fix what they don't understand...
>
> Bottom line... if it is broke beyond a simple repair I am not going to
> fool with it any longer...
> Maybe after a beer I will feel better.
> Thanks,
> Bill
>

Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

[Linda Palit]

On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote:

> I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau
> for the reminder.
>
>  Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have
> very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on
> Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone
> who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs,
> a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of
> Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you
> there. Hugs!
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

[Linda Palit]

If you want to stay the evening, we will find you a place to crash. If you
are coming, please drop me a note so we have enough food, and please bring
lawn chairs.

Thanks,
Linda

On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote:

> I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau
> for the reminder.
>
>  Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have
> very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on
> Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone
> who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs,
> a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of
> Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you
> there. Hugs!
>
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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention -SA Road Work

[Linda Palit]

Hope To see all of you this weekend at Spring Convention!

 Just a note that 1604 will be closed from 10pm Friday night until
probably Monday morning.  That means you should avoid 1604 and 281
during those hours or expect a mind-numbing delay.

Have a good trip.
Linda

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[Texascavers] Sunday TCMA Breakfast

[Linda Palit]

TCMA will be serving breakfast Sunday morning beginning about 8am,
hopefully coffee sooner.  A $5 donation is requested.  Since the
evening meal will be catered, I am not sure who will have plates or
whatever.  I will have some, but if you can bring your own it would be
helpful.  We could still use a couple of cooks for Sunday morning,
also.  Breakfast Tacos, Juice, and Coffee will be on the menu.
Thanks!

Coffee will be available at the school Saturday morning, but PLEASE
bring a cup.  I have no idea how many people will need coffee, so it
is really hard to provide cups and I cannot bear to buy the weird foam
ones.

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[Texascavers] Close all caves?

[Linda Palit]

Forwarded from SWR

As you may know, the CBD is petitioning the White House to close all
public caves and fine private landowners who keep their caves open.
This is a serious threat to the caves, which are often vandalized when
responsible visitation is removed, and does nothing to protect the
bats since WNS is spread bat-to-bat. Human contributions to spread can
be effectively controlled with decon, assuming a human vector ever
existed. Closing publicly owned caves to the public is a threat to
conservation, a limitation of freedom, and is based on bad science,
and I am tired of not standing up to say that. If you support this
cause, please sign this counter petition to keep the caves open.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/
!/petition/support-conservation-recreation-science-and-personal-freedom-mandating-public-access-caves-public/YX8Bjp3F

[Texascavers] Re: Close all caves?

[Linda Palit]

Center for Biological Diversity. Non- profit group suing the government.

On Friday, April 13, 2012, Mark Minton wrote:

>I wondered the same thing.  This is the response I sent to the SWR
> list:
>
>It is true that CBD wants all federally-owned caves closed, but I
> can find no evidence that they are also seeking fines for private
> landowners who do not follow suit.  Where did this information come from?
>  Here are a couple of relevant web pages: <http://www.**
> biologicaldiversity.org/news/**press_releases/2012/white-**
> nose-syndrome-04-11-2012.html<http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2012/white-nose-syndrome-04-11-2012.html>
> >**, <http://www.**biologicaldiversity.org/news/**
> center/articles/2012/summit-**county-citizens-voice-04-12-**2012.html<http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/center/articles/2012/summit-county-citizens-voice-04-12-2012.html>>.
> Before I ask anyone to sign the petition I'd like to know that the
> information is accurate.  Thank you.
>
> Mark Minton
>
> At 03:42 PM 4/13/2012, Linda Palit wrote:
>
>> Forwarded from SWR
>>
>> As you may know, the CBD is petitioning the White House to close all
>> public caves and fine private landowners who keep their caves open.
>> This is a serious threat to the caves, which are often vandalized when
>> responsible visitation is removed, and does nothing to protect the
>> bats since WNS is spread bat-to-bat. Human contributions to spread can
>> be effectively controlled with decon, assuming a human vector ever
>> existed. Closing publicly owned caves to the public is a threat to
>> conservation, a limitation of freedom, and is based on bad science,
>> and I am tired of not standing up to say that. If you support this
>> cause, please sign this counter petition to keep the caves open.
>>
>> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/**petitions/!/petition/support-**
>> conservation-recreation-**science-and-personal-freedom-**
>> mandating-public-access-caves-**public/YX8Bjp3F<https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/support-conservation-recreation-science-and-personal-freedom-mandating-public-access-caves-public/YX8Bjp3F>
>>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] TCMA Auction

[Linda Palit]

Owe you $40, I believe.  Shall I send a check?

On Monday, April 9, 2012, Michael Cicherski wrote:

> Could the following folks please contact me in regards to the 2012 TCMA
> auction.
>
> Bill Bentley
> Charles Goldsmith
> Lee Jay Graves
> Mallory Mayeux
> Lydia Hernandez
> Shannon Summers
> Gaylon Falgout
> Austin McRee
> Linda Palit
> Sofia ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Michael Cicherski
> TCMA Auction Treasurer and bean-counter
> coastalca...@me.com 
>
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Words to Barb MacLeod songs

[Linda Palit]

And TCMA still has cd's and videos of the conference available for sale.

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, wrote:

> Newer cavers may remember Barb from a concert she gave in Burnet at a
> TSA Convention, a few years ago. Older cavers remember Barb and her cave
> ballads from the 70s, Bill Steele made a CD of what she did in Burnet. Barb
> just sent me a file of the words to those songs, and more. If you would
> like me to forward this file to you, let me know.
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[Texascavers] Kissy Kissy

[Linda Palit]

Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA house and all over south Texas they ate
around. It is a dangerous world.

Linda.

Re: [Texascavers] Kissy Kissy Pooh-Pooh

[Linda Palit]

No.  Serious.  I wonder what parasites, amoebae, whatever I have.  And glad
to still be kick in'!

On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Logan McNatt wrote:

>
> On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
> house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous world.
>
> Yeah Linda, I have too, even growing up in north central Texas
> (Brownwood).  But I never found the ones up here crawling on me at night or
> biting me, nor saw them commonly in caves.  And the ones in Central America
> are on steroids compared to those up here in terms of size and blood lust.
> It's not just the bugs you see, but the parasites you don't see.  According
> to what Barb initially told me, and what the CDC site says right now:  ". .
> .the parasite *Trypanosoma cruzi*, which is transmitted to animals and
> people by insect vectors and is found only in the Americas (mainly, in
> rural areas of Latin America where poverty is widespread).  Yeah, "it is a
> dangerous world".  You can get "pooh-poohed" anywhere, anytime!  Ha, gotcha!
>
> LowGun
>
>

[Texascavers] San Antonio's Bob Cowell facing health problems

[Linda Palit]

Bob has had a rough week, getting a diagnosis of esophageal cancer, and
then facing multiple tests to determine the prognosis.  He will NOT get the
results of any tests until after the holidays.  He and the family welcome
your positive thoughts, prayers, and positive communication. No BooHoo's or
hysteria of course, but feel free to email him good wishes if you are so
inclined. His address is bcow...@satx.rr.com or home is 5806 Cactus Sun, SA
78244.

Cheers, and have wonderful holidays,
Linda

Re: [Texascavers] Knee Pads

[Linda Palit]

I like howitzers. On rope carries them.

On Monday, September 10, 2012, Alex Sproul wrote:

> **
> On 10 Sep 2012 at 15:20, James Jasek wrote:
>
> What are the most comfortable knee pads made to wear on the outside of
> clothing.
>
>
>  
> *Crawldaddies*
>
> or
>
> *Dirty 
> Dave's*
>
>
>  Alex
>
>
>
>
>  --
> *Alex Sproul*
> *NSS 8086RL/FE*
> *NSS Webmaster*
> *www.caves.org* 
>

[Texascavers] TCR

[Linda Palit]

Awesome!   Thanks to Don, Ellie, and all the volunteers who make it happen.

[Texascavers] TCMA Breakfast at TCR

[Linda Palit]

THANKS to all for making the TCMA Breakfast happen.  There would be no
reason to cook if there were not hungry mouths to feed. And the people
coming out before dawn to prepare the food are noble!  I can get up but
these people can cook!

Great works, and gracias,
Linda

[Texascavers] Caver, articles, and interest

[Linda Palit]

I have read the responses to Denise's and Mark's appeals with interest.
Probably the hardest part of being Caver editor is getting articles, or
maybe it is that sneaking feeling that comes with most volunteer positions
that "nobody understands or appreciates.".

I will do an occasional series of interviews, both of newer and "seasoned"
cavers.  I will have the first one to Mark by the end of the month.  I
would also welcome suggestions of newer cavers to interview from grottos
not near SA.

Perhaps somebody could do some compilation from grotto newsletters (don't
read it if you think it is a bad idea)', somebody might do a gear review or
safety/techniques review occasionally, a review of events, and some of the
other ideas I read. Taking the initiative to take on one od these tasks is
pretty simple once you get past the idea that nobody wants to read that.

A few picture essays in the online part of the TC might be nice too..

It is always busy, but I do like the Caver.

Re: [Texascavers] Dirty old men

[Linda Palit]

I call this BAIT.

Linda

On Wednesday, June 6, 2012, wrote:

> **
> Caver cunnie is the best! Let's face it Cave Chicks are hot, that is why I
> go to cave gatherings. You think I do it for the caves? Yet another cold
> dark hole in the ground? No, I prefer warm. I have porked more
> different mud covered pud muffins due to chance encounters at the hot tub
> than at any other venue or from any other demographic group. Discos just
> don't work for me.
>
> As a case in point, after boffing various bimbos at various cave
> gatherings I met my life partner, the estimable Dr. Ann, some twenty or so
> years ago at the hot tub at the Old Timers. While recovering from a brutal
> hangover I saw what I thought to be an unknown hot caver chick headed for
> the tub so I set out in hot pursuit. I asked her name and she replied,
> "Maybe you will remember when I take my clothes off". Unfortunately I
> didn't and she was clearly hurt. Then suddenly I remembered, we had talked
> for hours several days before while she was naked and I was clothed. Then I
> tried out a standard line, "I only wanted to probe your mind". Despite
> Ann's high IQ it worked like a charm and she swooned. I turned to a friend
> and said, "This one's in the bag!"
>
> As for being a dirty old man and the improbability of actually scoring, I
> would remind you that it is better to be a dirty old man than any of the
> possible other alternatives. In my quiet moments I like to reflect upon
> conquests past. If only I could remember why? Perhaps some day I will
> achieve the status of my old caver friend Bill Berryhill who dearly loved
> women but who outlived his ability to do anything about it. Nevertheless he
> could still crawl and could still dream so nothing suited him better than
> to go down a hands and knees crawl close behind a beauteous butt and sniff
> the air for panties!
>
> Sleazeweazel
>
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] Dirty old men

[Linda Palit]

BAIT TAKEN -- Officially bored. Did not get through this. Hope the people
who did enjoyed it or are gratified that they stirred the pot.

On Wednesday, June 6, 2012, Andy
>
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.

[Linda Palit]

I regularly have these bugs on my back porch. Maybe I wil
 Collect them when they show up this year. It is usually August.

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012, David Ochel wrote:

>
>
> - Forwarded message from gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org -
>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:20:36 -0500
>From: Geary Schindel 
>  Subject: FW: Study of kissing bugs for Chagus parasites in Texas.
>  To: 'David Ochel' 
>
> David,
>
> I'm having a problem as this message keeps getting bounced to Texas
> Cavers.  Can you post it for me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geary
>
>
>
> I tried to send this out last week but I think it got bounced.
>
> Geary
>
> Folks,
>
> Two medical researchers at Baylor University (Dr. Hotez and Dr. Murray)
> are interested in studying Triatomine Bugs (Kissing bug/Cone-nose
> Bug/Vinchuca) for Trypanosama cruzi.  This is the parasite that causes
> Chagus Disease in dogs and humans.  There is some discussion in the medical
> field whether Chagus has been transmitted to humans south Texas or whether
> most of the Chagus causes are representative of folks immigrating in from
> down south.  It has certainly been present in dogs and has resulted in a
> number of deaths in dogs. This is a pretty nasty disease and I've been told
> is responsible for about half of the heart transplant needs in Central and
> South America.  It causes all kinds of other health issues also.
>
> Anyway, the kissing bug is pretty common in south central Texas and I
> caught four of them in the Deep Cabin last weekend.  One had taken a blood
> meal (not good). They were shipped off for testing. I've also seen two
> bites on the Deep and Punkin Nature preserve property for kissing bugs.
>  The researchers are asking for folks to collect kissing bugs and submit
> them for testing.  Since cavers are commonly out and about and have their
> nose to the ground, I thought I would ask if anyone is interesting in
> helping with the study.  All you have to do is collect the bugs, fill out a
> short form, and send it in to the research along with the bug.  Here are
> two links on Chagus.  The bug can be dead or alive but not smushed. The
> links also include some pictures of the bug as they are around an inch or
> less long and have a real pointy nose.  Maybe we should rethink sleeping
> out without a tent or netting.
>
> If you would like to participate, please send me an email and I'll send
> you the address and other information.
>
>
> http://www.**allaboutchagasdisease.com/
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/**chagas/
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geary Schindel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - End forwarded message -
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] All caver.net mailing lists down

[Linda Palit]

Try two beers.

On Tuesday, July 3, 2012, Bill Bentley wrote:

> **
> The SOB's that tried to upgrade my web hosting service while I was at
> convention have attempted to fix a small problem with all of the 
> caver.netmailing lists and in the process deleted them all...
>
> I am not sure if it is fixable as I have been off and on the phone to
> morons for hours and besides not being able to understand them and them not
> able to understand me. Then they have no clue as to what I am talking about
> when I call in... Hard for them to fix what they don't understand...
>
> Bottom line... if it is broke beyond a simple repair I am not going to
> fool with it any longer...
> Maybe after a beer I will feel better.
> Thanks,
> Bill
>

Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

[Linda Palit]

On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote:

> I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau
> for the reminder.
>
>  Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have
> very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on
> Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone
> who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs,
> a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of
> Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you
> there. Hugs!
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

[Linda Palit]

If you want to stay the evening, we will find you a place to crash. If you
are coming, please drop me a note so we have enough food, and please bring
lawn chairs.

Thanks,
Linda

On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote:

> I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau
> for the reminder.
>
>  Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have
> very graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on
> Saturday, July 7 at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone
> who touched his life from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs,
> a potluck dish, happy memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of
> Shiner beer to toast with and brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you
> there. Hugs!
>
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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention -SA Road Work

[Linda Palit]

Hope To see all of you this weekend at Spring Convention!

 Just a note that 1604 will be closed from 10pm Friday night until
probably Monday morning.  That means you should avoid 1604 and 281
during those hours or expect a mind-numbing delay.

Have a good trip.
Linda

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[Texascavers] Sunday TCMA Breakfast

[Linda Palit]

TCMA will be serving breakfast Sunday morning beginning about 8am,
hopefully coffee sooner.  A $5 donation is requested.  Since the
evening meal will be catered, I am not sure who will have plates or
whatever.  I will have some, but if you can bring your own it would be
helpful.  We could still use a couple of cooks for Sunday morning,
also.  Breakfast Tacos, Juice, and Coffee will be on the menu.
Thanks!

Coffee will be available at the school Saturday morning, but PLEASE
bring a cup.  I have no idea how many people will need coffee, so it
is really hard to provide cups and I cannot bear to buy the weird foam
ones.

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[Texascavers] Close all caves?

[Linda Palit]

Forwarded from SWR

As you may know, the CBD is petitioning the White House to close all
public caves and fine private landowners who keep their caves open.
This is a serious threat to the caves, which are often vandalized when
responsible visitation is removed, and does nothing to protect the
bats since WNS is spread bat-to-bat. Human contributions to spread can
be effectively controlled with decon, assuming a human vector ever
existed. Closing publicly owned caves to the public is a threat to
conservation, a limitation of freedom, and is based on bad science,
and I am tired of not standing up to say that. If you support this
cause, please sign this counter petition to keep the caves open.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/
!/petition/support-conservation-recreation-science-and-personal-freedom-mandating-public-access-caves-public/YX8Bjp3F

[Texascavers] Re: Close all caves?

[Linda Palit]

Center for Biological Diversity. Non- profit group suing the government.

On Friday, April 13, 2012, Mark Minton wrote:

>I wondered the same thing.  This is the response I sent to the SWR
> list:
>
>It is true that CBD wants all federally-owned caves closed, but I
> can find no evidence that they are also seeking fines for private
> landowners who do not follow suit.  Where did this information come from?
>  Here are a couple of relevant web pages: <http://www.**
> biologicaldiversity.org/news/**press_releases/2012/white-**
> nose-syndrome-04-11-2012.html<http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2012/white-nose-syndrome-04-11-2012.html>
> >**, <http://www.**biologicaldiversity.org/news/**
> center/articles/2012/summit-**county-citizens-voice-04-12-**2012.html<http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/center/articles/2012/summit-county-citizens-voice-04-12-2012.html>>.
> Before I ask anyone to sign the petition I'd like to know that the
> information is accurate.  Thank you.
>
> Mark Minton
>
> At 03:42 PM 4/13/2012, Linda Palit wrote:
>
>> Forwarded from SWR
>>
>> As you may know, the CBD is petitioning the White House to close all
>> public caves and fine private landowners who keep their caves open.
>> This is a serious threat to the caves, which are often vandalized when
>> responsible visitation is removed, and does nothing to protect the
>> bats since WNS is spread bat-to-bat. Human contributions to spread can
>> be effectively controlled with decon, assuming a human vector ever
>> existed. Closing publicly owned caves to the public is a threat to
>> conservation, a limitation of freedom, and is based on bad science,
>> and I am tired of not standing up to say that. If you support this
>> cause, please sign this counter petition to keep the caves open.
>>
>> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/**petitions/!/petition/support-**
>> conservation-recreation-**science-and-personal-freedom-**
>> mandating-public-access-caves-**public/YX8Bjp3F<https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/support-conservation-recreation-science-and-personal-freedom-mandating-public-access-caves-public/YX8Bjp3F>
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] TCMA Auction

[Linda Palit]

Owe you $40, I believe.  Shall I send a check?

On Monday, April 9, 2012, Michael Cicherski wrote:

> Could the following folks please contact me in regards to the 2012 TCMA
> auction.
>
> Bill Bentley
> Charles Goldsmith
> Lee Jay Graves
> Mallory Mayeux
> Lydia Hernandez
> Shannon Summers
> Gaylon Falgout
> Austin McRee
> Linda Palit
> Sofia ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Michael Cicherski
> TCMA Auction Treasurer and bean-counter
> coastalca...@me.com 
>
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*

[Linda Palit]

I am glad to see that so many people still feel ownership of TSA.  It might
be even more effective if all those people attend the meetings and offer
their input and opinions there.   I have not seen all that many at recent
TSA meetings, including the most recent one at TCR.  I was not at that
meeting, since I was still cooking breakfast for the masses.  I would say
that, even though we all feel ownership, the way to pass on those valuable
historical insights and to have your voice heard is to attend the meetings
and to communicate with the officers.  Being an officer sometimes feels
like a thankless job, and there is often ample criticism and minimal
appreciation.  So Thanks to all who are serving and have served, and cheers
to those of you who decide to serve again.  Bylaws can be changed or more
meetings can be scheduled.  Let's all continue to contribute to the growth
of TSA.

Linda


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Jerry  wrote:

> It might have been prudent for someone to ask if there was a reason to
> hold a TSA Winter Business meeting before just cancelling it because "it
> was close to both the fall and spring meetings".  The Winter meeting
> introduces the new officers to the membership and formally inducts them
> into the responsibilities of the Executive Council. It was found that it
> was best to have a meeting early on in the year so that the new slate of
> officers don't wait until the Spring Convention to start working on TSA
> business or really giving it much thought.
>
> . sorta like the way you all decided to get rid of it, -- not much
> thought. just convenience 
>
> Jerry.
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Julia Germany 
> To: Mark.Alman ; Texascavers <
> Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
>
> Well, that clears up everything.
>
> So - three meetings were held in 2011.
>
> And, until the by-laws are changed, there need to be three meetings in
> 2012.
>
> Then, it's up to the new administration to follow or change the by-laws
> concerning the number of meetings they hold in 2012.
>
> Cool!  Thanks for clearing that up, Mark!
>
> And, I like Ryan's idea that we hold one of the meetings at/in/near water,
> and preferably in a cave.
>
> julia
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Mark.Alman 
> To: Julia Germany 
> Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:31 pm
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
>
>  Yes and yes.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>  *From:* Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:24 PM
> *To:* Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
>
> I'm getting confused.
>
> So, you did have three meetings in 2011?
>
> So, this discussion is about the 2012 business meeting?
>
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Mark.Alman 
> To: Julia Germany ; JerryAtkin ;
> ellie.thoene ; trhli 
> Cc: texascavers 
> Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:15 pm
> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
>
>  From by the by-laws, a.k.a, TSA Constitution:
>
>
>
>  *Article V: MEETINGS.* At least three TSA meetings shall be held each
> calendar year. The time and place of all TSA meetings shall be announced
> through a regular publication of the TSA, or by electronic mail to all
> members of record. TSA meetings shall be called by the officers or by
> written petition of 20% of all TSA members.
>
>
>  Since we’ve already had our three meetings for 2011, deciding when to
> schedule another one for 2012 can be done at the Spring Convention Business
> Meeting (or an hour before, as Stefan proposes. I always liked the way you
> think, Stefan!).
>
>  As you can see, no specific dates or venues are specified.
>
>
>  Mark
>
>
>   *From:* Julia Germany [*mailto:germa...@aol.com* ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:05 PM
> *To:* *jerryat...@aol.com* ; 
> *ellie.tho...@gmail.com*;
> *tr...@sprynet.com* 
> *Cc:* *texascavers@texascavers.com* 
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
>
>
> Since the "winter" meeting was cancelled, and the by-laws were not changed
> to reflect having only two meetings a year, there needs to be a third
> meeting for 2011 before there is a first meeting for 2012 to be right with
> the by-laws.  I haven't looked at the by-laws in while - do they state when
> the meetings must take place?
>
> As a reminder, when seeking grant funds, funders almost always ask for a
> copy of the by-laws, and may ask for copies of the official meeting minutes
> to make sure you are following the rules of your by-laws.
>
> julia
>   -Original Message-
> From: JerryAtkin <*jerryat...@aol.com* >
> To: ellie.thoene <*ellie.tho...@gmail.com* >;
> trhli <*tr...@sprynet.com* >
> Cc: texascavers <*texascavers@texascavers.com*
> >
> Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA S

Re: [Texascavers] Words to Barb MacLeod songs

[Linda Palit]

And TCMA still has cd's and videos of the conference available for sale.

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, wrote:

> Newer cavers may remember Barb from a concert she gave in Burnet at a
> TSA Convention, a few years ago. Older cavers remember Barb and her cave
> ballads from the 70s, Bill Steele made a CD of what she did in Burnet. Barb
> just sent me a file of the words to those songs, and more. If you would
> like me to forward this file to you, let me know.
>
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[Texascavers] Kissy Kissy

[Linda Palit]

Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA house and all over south Texas they ate
around. It is a dangerous world.

Linda.

Re: [Texascavers] Kissy Kissy Pooh-Pooh

[Linda Palit]

No.  Serious.  I wonder what parasites, amoebae, whatever I have.  And glad
to still be kick in'!

On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Logan McNatt wrote:

>
> On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
> house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous world.
>
> Yeah Linda, I have too, even growing up in north central Texas
> (Brownwood).  But I never found the ones up here crawling on me at night or
> biting me, nor saw them commonly in caves.  And the ones in Central America
> are on steroids compared to those up here in terms of size and blood lust.
> It's not just the bugs you see, but the parasites you don't see.  According
> to what Barb initially told me, and what the CDC site says right now:  ". .
> .the parasite *Trypanosoma cruzi*, which is transmitted to animals and
> people by insect vectors and is found only in the Americas (mainly, in
> rural areas of Latin America where poverty is widespread).  Yeah, "it is a
> dangerous world".  You can get "pooh-poohed" anywhere, anytime!  Ha, gotcha!
>
> LowGun
>
>

[Texascavers] San Antonio's Bob Cowell facing health problems

[Linda Palit]

Bob has had a rough week, getting a diagnosis of esophageal cancer, and
then facing multiple tests to determine the prognosis.  He will NOT get the
results of any tests until after the holidays.  He and the family welcome
your positive thoughts, prayers, and positive communication. No BooHoo's or
hysteria of course, but feel free to email him good wishes if you are so
inclined. His address is bcow...@satx.rr.com or home is 5806 Cactus Sun, SA
78244.

Cheers, and have wonderful holidays,
Linda

Re: [Texascavers] Knee Pads

[Linda Palit]

I like howitzers. On rope carries them.

On Monday, September 10, 2012, Alex Sproul wrote:

> **
> On 10 Sep 2012 at 15:20, James Jasek wrote:
>
> What are the most comfortable knee pads made to wear on the outside of
> clothing.
>
>
>  
> *Crawldaddies*
>
> or
>
> *Dirty 
> Dave's*
>
>
>  Alex
>
>
>
>
>  --
> *Alex Sproul*
> *NSS 8086RL/FE*
> *NSS Webmaster*
> *www.caves.org* 
>

[Texascavers] TCR

[Linda Palit]

Awesome!   Thanks to Don, Ellie, and all the volunteers who make it happen.