Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me. I would recognize that photo if it were mine. The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing. People started switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's. Just hypothesizing here… Peter pjca...@gwi.net On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone wants to give it to me….. LOL Peter On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote: No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me. I would recognize that photo if it were mine. The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing. People started switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's. Just hypothesizing here… Peter pjca...@gwi.net SITDCP Card 2010.tif On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
I enlarged it….maybe the battery pack of an easter seal lamp on the guy in the middle? Also the helmet on the woman in the front has a ridge on the top. Looks old. Maybe Bob and Bob or other cave vendors can i.d. the helmet, and give a better idea of how old the pic is….Carl….. On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Bilbo, Michael J wrote: Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Here is another photo in Lincoln by the same photographer if this helps. I just don't remember who sent it to me. Jim Cox, maybe? - Lee ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
I forwarded on to Frank. I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't respond to my email yet. I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really know what 80's cavers looked like. Jen From: mbi...@blm.gov To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Thanks Mike, I don’t know the history very well, but think white LEDs started appearing in 2002 and by 2005, high intensity white LEDs were available. Although wheatlamps are still available from places like eBay, I think they were also replaced by LED versions by the same dates. Regards, John From: Bilbo, Michael J [mailto:mbi...@blm.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:10 AM To: 'john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com'; 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo John - a thought on the recent history of headlamps - if it is 2004 (or late '90s), that be the basic end-period for wheatlamps, correct? And the shift to LEDs? When did cavers go full bore into LEDs? On the photo date and kneepads, I bought for the Roswell BLM cache in mid '90s about 20 pair of Bomber Gear kneepads (and we also still had 15 functioning wheatlamps then). I also forwarded the photo to Stephen Carter as the central figure bears some resemblance. From: John Corcoran [mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 09:29 PM To: Bilbo, Michael J; lstarr...@gmail.com lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net s...@caver.net Subject: RE: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me. I would recognize that photo if it were mine. The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing. People started switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's. Just hypothesizing here… Peter pjca...@gwi.net On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone wants to give it to me….. LOL Peter On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote: No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me. I would recognize that photo if it were mine. The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing. People started switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's. Just hypothesizing here… Peter pjca...@gwi.net SITDCP Card 2010.tif On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
I enlarged it….maybe the battery pack of an easter seal lamp on the guy in the middle? Also the helmet on the woman in the front has a ridge on the top. Looks old. Maybe Bob and Bob or other cave vendors can i.d. the helmet, and give a better idea of how old the pic is….Carl….. On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Bilbo, Michael J wrote: Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Here is another photo in Lincoln by the same photographer if this helps. I just don't remember who sent it to me. Jim Cox, maybe? - Lee ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
I forwarded on to Frank. I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't respond to my email yet. I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really know what 80's cavers looked like. Jen From: mbi...@blm.gov To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Thanks Mike, I don’t know the history very well, but think white LEDs started appearing in 2002 and by 2005, high intensity white LEDs were available. Although wheatlamps are still available from places like eBay, I think they were also replaced by LED versions by the same dates. Regards, John From: Bilbo, Michael J [mailto:mbi...@blm.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:10 AM To: 'john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com'; 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo John - a thought on the recent history of headlamps - if it is 2004 (or late '90s), that be the basic end-period for wheatlamps, correct? And the shift to LEDs? When did cavers go full bore into LEDs? On the photo date and kneepads, I bought for the Roswell BLM cache in mid '90s about 20 pair of Bomber Gear kneepads (and we also still had 15 functioning wheatlamps then). I also forwarded the photo to Stephen Carter as the central figure bears some resemblance. From: John Corcoran [mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 09:29 PM To: Bilbo, Michael J; lstarr...@gmail.com lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net s...@caver.net Subject: RE: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Pretty much the same only younger, and with more hair!... - Original Message - From: jen . To: s...@caver.net Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I forwarded on to Frank. I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't respond to my email yet. I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really know what 80's cavers looked like. Jen -- From: mbi...@blm.gov To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net -- ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me. I would recognize that photo if it were mine. The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing. People started switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's. Just hypothesizing here… Peter pjca...@gwi.net On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone wants to give it to me….. LOL Peter On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote: No, that is definitely not my photo. I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me. I would recognize that photo if it were mine. The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing. People started switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's. Just hypothesizing here… Peter pjca...@gwi.net SITDCP Card 2010.tif On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
I enlarged it….maybe the battery pack of an easter seal lamp on the guy in the middle? Also the helmet on the woman in the front has a ridge on the top. Looks old. Maybe Bob and Bob or other cave vendors can i.d. the helmet, and give a better idea of how old the pic is….Carl….. On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Bilbo, Michael J wrote: Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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Here is another photo in Lincoln by the same photographer if this helps. I just don't remember who sent it to me. Jim Cox, maybe? - Lee ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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I forwarded on to Frank. I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't respond to my email yet. I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really know what 80's cavers looked like. Jen From: mbi...@blm.gov To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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Thanks Mike, I don’t know the history very well, but think white LEDs started appearing in 2002 and by 2005, high intensity white LEDs were available. Although wheatlamps are still available from places like eBay, I think they were also replaced by LED versions by the same dates. Regards, John From: Bilbo, Michael J [mailto:mbi...@blm.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:10 AM To: 'john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com'; 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo John - a thought on the recent history of headlamps - if it is 2004 (or late '90s), that be the basic end-period for wheatlamps, correct? And the shift to LEDs? When did cavers go full bore into LEDs? On the photo date and kneepads, I bought for the Roswell BLM cache in mid '90s about 20 pair of Bomber Gear kneepads (and we also still had 15 functioning wheatlamps then). I also forwarded the photo to Stephen Carter as the central figure bears some resemblance. From: John Corcoran [mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 09:29 PM To: Bilbo, Michael J; lstarr...@gmail.com lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net s...@caver.net Subject: RE: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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Pretty much the same only younger, and with more hair!... - Original Message - From: jen . To: s...@caver.net Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I forwarded on to Frank. I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't respond to my email yet. I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really know what 80's cavers looked like. Jen -- From: mbi...@blm.gov To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to Linda. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net -- ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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Don't know who took the photo, but judging by the clothing and gear the cavers are wearing, it was likely a very recent photo, certainly not a discovery day photo by any means. Peter On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Linda Starr wrote: Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr DSCN0066.JPG___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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Isn't that a Wheat lamp on the caver in the foreground? That should narrow down the approximate decade the photo was taken. Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax) On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Linda Starr wrote: Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr DSCN0066.JPG___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net UT Southwestern Medical Center The future of medicine, today. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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Mike, Yes, I will search for Lincoln trips and get back to you tonight. The last one I remember was in April 2010 when Jennifer Foote led a trip to refresh the emergency cache in Lincoln Caverns and do some photo documentation of people impacts. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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Peter is on the SWR list but is currently traveling. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org Sent by mobile phone. Original message Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo From: John Corcoran john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com To: 'Bilbo, Michael J' mbi...@blm.gov,lstarr...@gmail.com,s...@caver.net CC: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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Peter responded yesterday and didn't take credit for the photo. Jen. From: john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com To: mbi...@blm.gov; lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:29:06 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Isn't that a Wheat lamp on the caver in the foreground? That should narrow down the approximate decade the photo was taken. Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax) On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Linda Starr wrote: Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr DSCN0066.JPG___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net UT Southwestern Medical Center The future of medicine, today. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
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I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Mike, Yes, I will search for Lincoln trips and get back to you tonight. The last one I remember was in April 2010 when Jennifer Foote led a trip to refresh the emergency cache in Lincoln Caverns and do some photo documentation of people impacts. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Peter is on the SWR list but is currently traveling. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org Sent by mobile phone. Original message Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo From: John Corcoran john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com To: 'Bilbo, Michael J' mbi...@blm.gov,lstarr...@gmail.com,s...@caver.net CC: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Peter responded yesterday and didn't take credit for the photo. Jen. From: john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com To: mbi...@blm.gov; lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:29:06 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Don't know who took the photo, but judging by the clothing and gear the cavers are wearing, it was likely a very recent photo, certainly not a discovery day photo by any means. Peter On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Linda Starr wrote: Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr DSCN0066.JPG___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Isn't that a Wheat lamp on the caver in the foreground? That should narrow down the approximate decade the photo was taken. Diana * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax) On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Linda Starr wrote: Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr DSCN0066.JPG___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net UT Southwestern Medical Center The future of medicine, today. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Mike, Yes, I will search for Lincoln trips and get back to you tonight. The last one I remember was in April 2010 when Jennifer Foote led a trip to refresh the emergency cache in Lincoln Caverns and do some photo documentation of people impacts. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Peter is on the SWR list but is currently traveling. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org Sent by mobile phone. Original message Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo From: John Corcoran john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com To: 'Bilbo, Michael J' mbi...@blm.gov,lstarr...@gmail.com,s...@caver.net CC: Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
Peter responded yesterday and didn't take credit for the photo. Jen. From: john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com To: mbi...@blm.gov; lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:29:06 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Mike, I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004. I don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, Michael J Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net' Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips. John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip. From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM To: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo Hi All, This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken? Let me know if you know anything about it. Linda Starr ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
