[Texascavers] Helmet-cam videos - 1010

2019-03-09 Thread David
Here is a new helmet-cam video.

Its primary purpose seems to be to show the viewpoint
of a caver looking at his foot placement while touring the
cave.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1cX_EH9f-o

He sets the bar for resolution.1440p seems to be fine
for such a cave.

However, all the head-movements, and the poor lighting
might give a viewer motion-sickness.   It did to me.

This video should give you an idea how to present your
future helmet-cam videos.  Walk very slow and turn head
very very slow - all around not just in one spot.

And have a flood-light instead of a spot-light.

I thought the sound of the heavy-breathing and foot-steps was
too loud, so I turned it way down.

I do not think this type of video recording is going to be a fad, as
the price of the helmet-cams is getting lower and lower.

I am surprised there is not a gate on this cave.

I assume the information below is the same cave:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pettyjohn_Cave

I do not think this video is worthy of an award.   Feel free to
correct me.

D.L.
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Re: [Texascavers] Helmet Cam

2008-07-18 Thread Alan Blevins
I picked up a "Tony Hawk's Helmet Cam" about a year ago with the idea
that it was cheap enough to risk breaking it in a cave or dropping it
in a pool of water. It has survived a handful of caving trips,
including a thorough beating against the sides of Robber Baron cave.

Here's one for $25:
http://www.compuplus.com/i-Digital-Blue-Tony-Hawk-Helmetcam-1011956~.html?sid=6d9v35b715u3v12

For dropping a wide pit lit by daylight like Devil's Sinkhole, it does
a reasonable job: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_8H2ewVOd4

In a cave at a range of 2-3 feet with the 2nd brightest setting
selected on a Princeton Apex, it does a reasonable job:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G83DLfvW8Y

The video quality is about what you'd expect for a camera in its price
range: 320x240, 15fps, heavy compression artifacting, and poor
low-light response. For your average stumbling through a cave, the
results are mixed from poor to unwatchable, usually because they are
too dark, but sometimes because of a weakness inherent in any helmet
cam: it's attached to you helmet, which is in turn attached to your
head. Our sneaky little brains play a very neat trick on us where in
shifting our focus from one point to another, we perceive a smooth and
seamless transition. Watching *videos* of the same transition, from
almost the same perspective, our brains don't know how to perform this
smoothing, and the result is violent and almost nauseating. A
helmet-cam operator needs a great deal of focus and discipline to
overcome the natural instinct to turn his head at a normal speed for a
human, and this is a talent I do not have! Overall, it's a fun toy
that can shoot some crappy video that's great for your local grotto's
recruitment purposes, if nothing else.

~Alan Blevins

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> Yeah we've had a few people bring these on our beginner trips and normally
> all you really get is a low quality video of hands and dirt. They only
> capture well where your head lamp is pointed and only then if it's decently
> bright. Truthfully though as with most things it probably just takes some
> tweaking to get the results you want out of it.
>
> Matt Turner
>
> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> without accepting it." - Aristotle
>
> "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can
> do that."- Norman Vincent Peale
>
> - Original Message 
> From: "Minton, Mark" 
> To: nmca...@caver.net; txcaver 
> Cc: "jcbr...@alum.rit.edu" ; yd
> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:06:59 AM
> Subject: [Texascavers] Helmet Cam
>
>   Now you can get a good deal on a waterproof helmet camera to record
> all of your caving and other exploits.  Mountain Gear has one on sale for
> only $100.
> <http://www.mountaingear.com/pages/product/Search_Results_Endeca_New.asp?N=0&Nu=p_rollup&Ntk=s_search&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&Ns=p_name%7C0&Nty=1&Ntt=Oregon+Scientific>
> It doesn't say how well they do in low-light though.
>
> Mark Minton
>

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Re: [Texascavers] Helmet Cam

2008-07-17 Thread Matt Turner
Yeah we've had a few people bring these on our beginner trips and normally all 
you really get is a low quality video of hands and dirt. They only capture well 
where your head lamp is pointed and only then if it's decently bright. 
Truthfully though as with most things it probably just takes some tweaking to 
get the results you want out of it.
 Matt Turner


"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without 
accepting it." - Aristotle


"Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do 
that."- Norman Vincent Peale



- Original Message 
From: "Minton, Mark" 
To: nmca...@caver.net; txcaver 
Cc: "jcbr...@alum.rit.edu" ; yd 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:06:59 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Helmet Cam


  Now you can get a good deal on a waterproof helmet camera to record all 
of your caving and other exploits.  Mountain Gear has one on sale for only 
$100.  
<http://www.mountaingear.com/pages/product/Search_Results_Endeca_New.asp?N=0&Nu=p_rollup&Ntk=s_search&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&Ns=p_name%7C0&Nty=1&Ntt=Oregon+Scientific>
  It doesn't say how well they do in low-light though.
 
Mark Minton