Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread CaverArch
Nowadays, yes, and maybe in 1970 (see my earlier post) on the Florida coasts.  
But when I was tubing back then, I was a student who could barely even afford a 
tube (and they still mostly came right out of car tires back then).  

Roger 

In a message dated 07/14/08 14:48:38 Central Daylight Time, 
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu writes:
Wetsuits are easily rented from dive shops. 

Diana 

On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:37 PM, CaverArch wrote: 

> I would have loved to snorkel it (and many other spring-fed Florida   
> streams) if I had a wetsuit!  Without, I tend to faint from   
> hypothermia. 
> 
> Roger 
> 
>


Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread Diana Tomchick

Wetsuits are easily rented from dive shops.

Diana

On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:37 PM, CaverArch wrote:

I would have loved to snorkel it (and many other spring-fed Florida  
streams) if I had a wetsuit!  Without, I tend to faint from  
hypothermia.


Roger

In a message dated 07/14/08 13:46:48 Central Daylight Time, diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 
 writes:

David,

Years ago when I lived in Florida, I snorkeled the Ichetucknee River,
which is crystal clear and cool due to the plentiful springs that feed
it. I believe back then you were required to take an inner tube along
with you, but I simply lashed it to me and snorkeled down the river.
It's crystal clear and full of fish--I can think of no better river in
the area of the NSS Convention for you to do such a trip. If you
decide to go, don't spend most of your time in the inner tube, get in
the water and snorkel. I've never done another trip quite like it
anywhere.

Diana
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Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread CaverArch
I would have loved to snorkel it (and many other spring-fed Florida streams) if 
I had a wetsuit!  Without, I tend to faint from hypothermia.

Roger 

In a message dated 07/14/08 13:46:48 Central Daylight Time, 
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu writes:
David, 

Years ago when I lived in Florida, I snorkeled the Ichetucknee River,   
which is crystal clear and cool due to the plentiful springs that feed   
it. I believe back then you were required to take an inner tube along   
with you, but I simply lashed it to me and snorkeled down the river.   
It's crystal clear and full of fish--I can think of no better river in   
the area of the NSS Convention for you to do such a trip. If you   
decide to go, don't spend most of your time in the inner tube, get in   
the water and snorkel. I've never done another trip quite like it   
anywhere. 

Diana 


Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread CaverArch
David,

I tubed the Ichetucknee back about 1970, and froze my butt*.  I'm particularly 
sensitive to cold water, so you might be fine, but consider neoprene shorts.  
It was quite primitve and beauttiful then, so lets home it still remains so.  
Florida has been very active (via its regional water districts) in protecting 
at least a greenbelt along many streams.  (I was so, so glad to hear that the 
Econfina north of Panama City was declared a protected stream and much property 
along its banks publicly acquired.)

Literally, of course, since that was all of me that was hanging down in the 
water.  I kept my legs out of the water and on my lady friend's tube.

I don't know any closer tubing areas.  If you get to Hogtown (Gainesville's 
original name), be sure to visit the Devil's Mill Hopper, a large and beautiful 
sinkhole.  I will go down that way, but to visit friends.

Roger Moore,

In a message dated 07/14/08 13:10:20 Central Daylight Time, 
dlocklea...@gmail.com writes:
This is for NSS Convention attendees only.

If I go to Florida, I was hoping to do some swimming
and tubing, most likely at the Ichetucknee River.


http://www.ichetucknee.org/springs.html

Is there a better place near the convention to go tubing?

Is anybody else going to the Ichetucknee to do the same?

Or would I be better off to save my money and go tubing on the
Rio Frio, or Guadalupe or San Marcos or some other Texas
river?



On a related note,

I have mentioned this prior to past conventions, 

but how do you justify going
to the convention if you have to take off work without pay,
or spend a lot of money to go?   

I know most people only
attend the conventions that are in their region, or they are retired
or they are very lucky and have a caving-friendly job that
encourages or lets them go without missing pay.

Every time, I sit down and think seriously about going, I
see the $ sign and think about how much fun that would
buy me in San Luis Potosi.

I presume there are a lot of cavers out there that have just
1 week of vacation per year, so they can't attend the
convention.

But I had a ton of fun at the Indiana convention, and the Maine
convention was one of my best vacations ever, followed by
the Bellingham convention.  And the West Virginia convention
was a great place to go caving.   And the Texas and Michigan
conventions were also fun.  And California had a lot of scenery.

So how can I skip Florida?   I told my wife I was going, and
she said "Not till you pay the house note" and then she went on a 
rampage about all the other bills piling up. What a party
pooper!!


David Locklear
 


Re: [Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread Diana Tomchick

David,

Years ago when I lived in Florida, I snorkeled the Ichetucknee River,  
which is crystal clear and cool due to the plentiful springs that feed  
it. I believe back then you were required to take an inner tube along  
with you, but I simply lashed it to me and snorkeled down the river.  
It's crystal clear and full of fish--I can think of no better river in  
the area of the NSS Convention for you to do such a trip. If you  
decide to go, don't spend most of your time in the inner tube, get in  
the water and snorkel. I've never done another trip quite like it  
anywhere.


Diana

On Jul 14, 2008, at 1:09 PM, David wrote:


This is for NSS Convention attendees only.

If I go to Florida, I was hoping to do some swimming
and tubing, most likely at the Ichetucknee River.


http://www.ichetucknee.org/springs.html

Is there a better place near the convention to go tubing?

Is anybody else going to the Ichetucknee to do the same?

Or would I be better off to save my money and go tubing on the
Rio Frio, or Guadalupe or San Marcos or some other Texas
river?



On a related note,

I have mentioned this prior to past conventions,

but how do you justify going
to the convention if you have to take off work without pay,
or spend a lot of money to go?

I know most people only
attend the conventions that are in their region, or they are retired
or they are very lucky and have a caving-friendly job that
encourages or lets them go without missing pay.

Every time, I sit down and think seriously about going, I
see the $ sign and think about how much fun that would
buy me in San Luis Potosi.

I presume there are a lot of cavers out there that have just
1 week of vacation per year, so they can't attend the
convention.

But I had a ton of fun at the Indiana convention, and the Maine
convention was one of my best vacations ever, followed by
the Bellingham convention.  And the West Virginia convention
was a great place to go caving.   And the Texas and Michigan
conventions were also fun.  And California had a lot of scenery.

So how can I skip Florida?   I told my wife I was going, and
she said "Not till you pay the house note" and then she went on a
rampage about all the other bills piling up. What a party
pooper!!


David Locklear



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[Texascavers] OT - NSS Convention related

2008-07-14 Thread David
This is for NSS Convention attendees only.

If I go to Florida, I was hoping to do some swimming
and tubing, most likely at the Ichetucknee River.


http://www.ichetucknee.org/springs.html

Is there a better place near the convention to go tubing?

Is anybody else going to the Ichetucknee to do the same?

Or would I be better off to save my money and go tubing on the
Rio Frio, or Guadalupe or San Marcos or some other Texas
river?



On a related note,

I have mentioned this prior to past conventions,

but how do you justify going
to the convention if you have to take off work without pay,
or spend a lot of money to go?

I know most people only
attend the conventions that are in their region, or they are retired
or they are very lucky and have a caving-friendly job that
encourages or lets them go without missing pay.

Every time, I sit down and think seriously about going, I
see the $ sign and think about how much fun that would
buy me in San Luis Potosi.

I presume there are a lot of cavers out there that have just
1 week of vacation per year, so they can't attend the
convention.

But I had a ton of fun at the Indiana convention, and the Maine
convention was one of my best vacations ever, followed by
the Bellingham convention.  And the West Virginia convention
was a great place to go caving.   And the Texas and Michigan
conventions were also fun.  And California had a lot of scenery.

So how can I skip Florida?   I told my wife I was going, and
she said "Not till you pay the house note" and then she went on a
rampage about all the other bills piling up. What a party
pooper!!


David Locklear