[ot_caving] computer question

2009-07-12 Thread Nico Escamilla
All

About a week ago I opened up my computer cabinet to blow some of the dirt
that makes its way in, I put it back together
and now everytime I start it the fan that pulls air out of the cpu starts
spinning like crazy making a buzzing noise... checked on BIOS and supposedly
the inside temperature of my computer is 91 celsius (thats nine below water
boiling point) I dont know much about computers so I asked a friend, he said
the temp sensor could be bad, but didnt know where that was located..
anybody have an idea as to where the temp sensor is, or what else could be
causing this?

thanks for any and all help

Nico


Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2009-07-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Nico, all modern processors have the temp sensor inside the cpu, and
another in the mobo...  I would check to make sure the heatsink is
seated properly and that the cpu paste is not dried between the cpu
and heatsink.

91 is too hot for most processors, as i'm sure you are aware :)

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Nico Escamillapitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
 All

 About a week ago I opened up my computer cabinet to blow some of the dirt
 that makes its way in, I put it back together
 and now everytime I start it the fan that pulls air out of the cpu starts
 spinning like crazy making a buzzing noise... checked on BIOS and supposedly
 the inside temperature of my computer is 91 celsius (thats nine below water
 boiling point) I dont know much about computers so I asked a friend, he said
 the temp sensor could be bad, but didnt know where that was located..
 anybody have an idea as to where the temp sensor is, or what else could be
 causing this?

 thanks for any and all help

 Nico



Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2009-07-12 Thread Nico Escamilla
Thanks Charles

I do recall seeing the paste dry.. should I just peel it off and put new one
on?

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 Nico, all modern processors have the temp sensor inside the cpu, and
 another in the mobo...  I would check to make sure the heatsink is
 seated properly and that the cpu paste is not dried between the cpu
 and heatsink.

 91 is too hot for most processors, as i'm sure you are aware :)

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Nico Escamillapitboun...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  All
 
  About a week ago I opened up my computer cabinet to blow some of the dirt
  that makes its way in, I put it back together
  and now everytime I start it the fan that pulls air out of the cpu starts
  spinning like crazy making a buzzing noise... checked on BIOS and
 supposedly
  the inside temperature of my computer is 91 celsius (thats nine below
 water
  boiling point) I dont know much about computers so I asked a friend, he
 said
  the temp sensor could be bad, but didnt know where that was located..
  anybody have an idea as to where the temp sensor is, or what else could
 be
  causing this?
 
  thanks for any and all help
 
  Nico
 



Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2009-07-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I would, clean it good with alcohol or something that won't corrode
copper or aluminum and a soft rag or a worn out sock :)

Will you be attending ICS?Hopefully we'll get to meet up.

Charles

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Nico Escamillapitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Charles

 I do recall seeing the paste dry.. should I just peel it off and put new one
 on?

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org
 wrote:

 Nico, all modern processors have the temp sensor inside the cpu, and
 another in the mobo...  I would check to make sure the heatsink is
 seated properly and that the cpu paste is not dried between the cpu
 and heatsink.

 91 is too hot for most processors, as i'm sure you are aware :)

 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Nico Escamillapitboun...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  All
 
  About a week ago I opened up my computer cabinet to blow some of the
  dirt
  that makes its way in, I put it back together
  and now everytime I start it the fan that pulls air out of the cpu
  starts
  spinning like crazy making a buzzing noise... checked on BIOS and
  supposedly
  the inside temperature of my computer is 91 celsius (thats nine below
  water
  boiling point) I dont know much about computers so I asked a friend, he
  said
  the temp sensor could be bad, but didnt know where that was located..
  anybody have an idea as to where the temp sensor is, or what else could
  be
  causing this?
 
  thanks for any and all help
 
  Nico
 




Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2008-05-19 Thread Cynthia Lee
Hi everyone,
Thank you to all who answered. I have McAfee and Ad-Aware. I tried Don's
suggestion and was able to see the processes that are running. I don't have
the faintest idea what these processes are and therefore do not know which
ones if any are not suppose to be there. But my computer seems to be running
better after running Ad-Aware once and McAfee twice. I'm still seeing the
pop up that says a program is running when I turn off the computer. I always
close out all the programs I'm using before I shut down so that is still a
mystery.
Thanks again.
Cindy

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also I should add that not all programs like these 'play by the rules'
 You may have to try and hunt them down and kill them.
 The result of application murder - as I like to call it - may result in a
 confused system registry.
 The way to do this is to find the culprit on your hard drive and erase the
 executable or the directory it resides in.
 Sometimes a registry will rebuild itself appropriately when you do this -
 other times it may not and you will get a pesky reminder every once and a
 while that the system cant find some program what you really didnt want
 anyway!
 To find the culprit - you can do a system search for a file named
 [application you have the hate for].
 You may have to run 'Regedit', go into the edit tab and do a find for the
 name of that program.
 When it finds it in the registry, it will indicate where it resides on your
 hard drive.

 Ideally, every program should have a means to delete itself, but
 unfortunately the world aint a perfect place (and sometimes even the
 lawmakers and police are corrupt and are only serving their interests and
 not that of  the public.)

 In a nutshell -
 WaVy


 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote:

 It varies based on what operating system you are using.
 Hopefully it isnt Vista - 'cause I'm deliberately Vista Illiterate :-)
 But you can try the following if its Win2000 or XP:
  Hold Cntl-Alt-Del
 Then a  panel/popup thingy should show up that has tabs such as
 Applications  Processes  Performance  Networking  Users
   Select Processes and identify the program that is doing this
   You might want to write down the name of the process that you know you
 dont like
 Use the Start 'button' on the lower left hand of your screen and find
 Control Panel - it should be somewhere in there
   Then go into control panel - find the icon that says Add or remove
 programs
   You might be able to match up the name of the offending executilbe with
 one displayed in the list of Processes,
   If so - delete it.
 Of course you could have selected the offending process by it's image name
 in the Task Manager's Processes tab,
 then gone down to the End Process button and hit it.  But if the process
 is spawned by the User Name 'SYSTEM' it won't let you end it.
 Also, you'd have to go back through the same process every time - so it'd
 be better to try and wipe out the app rather than stopping it.

 There are viral ware and spyware products available from McAfee and
 Symantic - I've not always had total satifsfaction with these.

 And of course - the only way to get rid of REALLY nasty spyware and
 malware is to wipe out EVERYTHING with a byte by byte disk rewriter and
 start all over again with a fresh operating system.

 -WaVy
 (not responcible for financial, temporal or relationship losses due to any
 advice given in this forum - use entirely at your own risk)



 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Cynthia Lee cynthiale...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Greetings all,
 Can anyone tell me 1) how I can tell if an unwanted program is running
 behind the scene on my computer and 2) if so how do I get rid of it?
 Thanks, Cindy






[ot_caving] computer question

2008-05-16 Thread Cynthia Lee
Greetings all,
Can anyone tell me 1) how I can tell if an unwanted program is running
behind the scene on my computer and 2) if so how do I get rid of it?
Thanks, Cindy


Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2008-05-16 Thread Don Cooper
It varies based on what operating system you are using.
Hopefully it isnt Vista - 'cause I'm deliberately Vista Illiterate :-)
But you can try the following if its Win2000 or XP:
 Hold Cntl-Alt-Del
Then a  panel/popup thingy should show up that has tabs such as
Applications  Processes  Performance  Networking  Users
  Select Processes and identify the program that is doing this
  You might want to write down the name of the process that you know you
dont like
Use the Start 'button' on the lower left hand of your screen and find
Control Panel - it should be somewhere in there
  Then go into control panel - find the icon that says Add or remove
programs
  You might be able to match up the name of the offending executilbe with
one displayed in the list of Processes,
  If so - delete it.
Of course you could have selected the offending process by it's image name
in the Task Manager's Processes tab,
then gone down to the End Process button and hit it.  But if the process is
spawned by the User Name 'SYSTEM' it won't let you end it.
Also, you'd have to go back through the same process every time - so it'd be
better to try and wipe out the app rather than stopping it.

There are viral ware and spyware products available from McAfee and Symantic
- I've not always had total satifsfaction with these.

And of course - the only way to get rid of REALLY nasty spyware and malware
is to wipe out EVERYTHING with a byte by byte disk rewriter and start all
over again with a fresh operating system.

-WaVy
(not responcible for financial, temporal or relationship losses due to any
advice given in this forum - use entirely at your own risk)


On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Cynthia Lee cynthiale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings all,
 Can anyone tell me 1) how I can tell if an unwanted program is running
 behind the scene on my computer and 2) if so how do I get rid of it?
 Thanks, Cindy



Re: [ot_caving] computer question

2008-05-16 Thread Don Cooper
Also I should add that not all programs like these 'play by the rules'
You may have to try and hunt them down and kill them.
The result of application murder - as I like to call it - may result in a
confused system registry.
The way to do this is to find the culprit on your hard drive and erase the
executable or the directory it resides in.
Sometimes a registry will rebuild itself appropriately when you do this -
other times it may not and you will get a pesky reminder every once and a
while that the system cant find some program what you really didnt want
anyway!
To find the culprit - you can do a system search for a file named
[application you have the hate for].
You may have to run 'Regedit', go into the edit tab and do a find for the
name of that program.
When it finds it in the registry, it will indicate where it resides on your
hard drive.

Ideally, every program should have a means to delete itself, but
unfortunately the world aint a perfect place (and sometimes even the
lawmakers and police are corrupt and are only serving their interests and
not that of  the public.)

In a nutshell -
WaVy

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote:

 It varies based on what operating system you are using.
 Hopefully it isnt Vista - 'cause I'm deliberately Vista Illiterate :-)
 But you can try the following if its Win2000 or XP:
  Hold Cntl-Alt-Del
 Then a  panel/popup thingy should show up that has tabs such as
 Applications  Processes  Performance  Networking  Users
   Select Processes and identify the program that is doing this
   You might want to write down the name of the process that you know you
 dont like
 Use the Start 'button' on the lower left hand of your screen and find
 Control Panel - it should be somewhere in there
   Then go into control panel - find the icon that says Add or remove
 programs
   You might be able to match up the name of the offending executilbe with
 one displayed in the list of Processes,
   If so - delete it.
 Of course you could have selected the offending process by it's image name
 in the Task Manager's Processes tab,
 then gone down to the End Process button and hit it.  But if the process is
 spawned by the User Name 'SYSTEM' it won't let you end it.
 Also, you'd have to go back through the same process every time - so it'd
 be better to try and wipe out the app rather than stopping it.

 There are viral ware and spyware products available from McAfee and
 Symantic - I've not always had total satifsfaction with these.

 And of course - the only way to get rid of REALLY nasty spyware and malware
 is to wipe out EVERYTHING with a byte by byte disk rewriter and start all
 over again with a fresh operating system.

 -WaVy
 (not responcible for financial, temporal or relationship losses due to any
 advice given in this forum - use entirely at your own risk)



 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Cynthia Lee cynthiale...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Greetings all,
 Can anyone tell me 1) how I can tell if an unwanted program is running
 behind the scene on my computer and 2) if so how do I get rid of it?
 Thanks, Cindy