RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
I got a response from a couple people who are working on a board for the Leica DX and the newest model. The boards are still in development but they should have a release here in the next 6 months. I'm so excited for my surveyor of one-- Sent from my HP TouchPadOn Aug 26, 2012 7:39 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: This idea of paperless caving has been around for quite a while. In addition to the Swiss site cited below, there was a detailed article by Mark Passerby in the final issue of the now defunct Caves.com Magazine (issue 9, circa 2004) about using it in a caving project in WV. See http://www.cavediggers.com/magazine/9th.pdf under Raders Valley Project, p. 4. Of course a lot of the technology discussed there is obsolete as better devices and software are now available. Mark At 09:12 PM 8/24/2012, Bennett Lee wrote: I've heard about azimuth/inclination mods to distos, but I didn't know there was a Bluetooth addition with software that imports the data and lets you sketch on a PDA. From the pics, it looks like you can get more accurate sketches because you can quickly shoot to every key wall and feature in the room and draw your sketch around the survey points (more or less real-time) right on the PDA screen. That's freaking sweet! Screw paper sketches, those awful high-angle measurements, erasure marks, and ANNOYING EDGES OF PAPER that get in the way of a great sketch, followed by manually entering all the data points, scanning in all the paper, and the long, tedious process of drawing everything a second time in Illustrator (sometimes by someone who has never even been in the cave), then months/years later you finally have a printable map. Seems like with this setup you have a complete map the moment you walk out of the cave. Holy crap! Why haven't we all switched to this? --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an "all in one" survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a "paperless survey": http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascaver
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
I got a response from a couple people who are working on a board for the Leica DX and the newest model. The boards are still in development but they should have a release here in the next 6 months. I'm so excited for my surveyor of one-- Sent from my HP TouchPadOn Aug 26, 2012 7:39 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: This idea of paperless caving has been around for quite a while. In addition to the Swiss site cited below, there was a detailed article by Mark Passerby in the final issue of the now defunct Caves.com Magazine (issue 9, circa 2004) about using it in a caving project in WV. See http://www.cavediggers.com/magazine/9th.pdf under Raders Valley Project, p. 4. Of course a lot of the technology discussed there is obsolete as better devices and software are now available. Mark At 09:12 PM 8/24/2012, Bennett Lee wrote: I've heard about azimuth/inclination mods to distos, but I didn't know there was a Bluetooth addition with software that imports the data and lets you sketch on a PDA. From the pics, it looks like you can get more accurate sketches because you can quickly shoot to every key wall and feature in the room and draw your sketch around the survey points (more or less real-time) right on the PDA screen. That's freaking sweet! Screw paper sketches, those awful high-angle measurements, erasure marks, and ANNOYING EDGES OF PAPER that get in the way of a great sketch, followed by manually entering all the data points, scanning in all the paper, and the long, tedious process of drawing everything a second time in Illustrator (sometimes by someone who has never even been in the cave), then months/years later you finally have a printable map. Seems like with this setup you have a complete map the moment you walk out of the cave. Holy crap! Why haven't we all switched to this? --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an "all in one" survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a "paperless survey": http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascaver
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
This idea of paperless caving has been around for quite a while. In addition to the Swiss site cited below, there was a detailed article by Mark Passerby in the final issue of the now defunct Caves.com Magazine (issue 9, circa 2004) about using it in a caving project in WV. See http://www.cavediggers.com/magazine/9th.pdf under Raders Valley Project, p. 4. Of course a lot of the technology discussed there is obsolete as better devices and software are now available. Mark At 09:12 PM 8/24/2012, Bennett Lee wrote: I've heard about azimuth/inclination mods to distos, but I didn't know there was a Bluetooth addition with software that imports the data and lets you sketch on a PDA. From the pics, it looks like you can get more accurate sketches because you can quickly shoot to every key wall and feature in the room and draw your sketch around the survey points (more or less real-time) right on the PDA screen. That's freaking sweet! Screw paper sketches, those awful high-angle measurements, erasure marks, and ANNOYING EDGES OF PAPER that get in the way of a great sketch, followed by manually entering all the data points, scanning in all the paper, and the long, tedious process of drawing everything a second time in Illustrator (sometimes by someone who has never even been in the cave), then months/years later you finally have a printable map. Seems like with this setup you have a complete map the moment you walk out of the cave. Holy crap! Why haven't we all switched to this? --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
This idea of paperless caving has been around for quite a while. In addition to the Swiss site cited below, there was a detailed article by Mark Passerby in the final issue of the now defunct Caves.com Magazine (issue 9, circa 2004) about using it in a caving project in WV. See http://www.cavediggers.com/magazine/9th.pdf under Raders Valley Project, p. 4. Of course a lot of the technology discussed there is obsolete as better devices and software are now available. Mark At 09:12 PM 8/24/2012, Bennett Lee wrote: I've heard about azimuth/inclination mods to distos, but I didn't know there was a Bluetooth addition with software that imports the data and lets you sketch on a PDA. From the pics, it looks like you can get more accurate sketches because you can quickly shoot to every key wall and feature in the room and draw your sketch around the survey points (more or less real-time) right on the PDA screen. That's freaking sweet! Screw paper sketches, those awful high-angle measurements, erasure marks, and ANNOYING EDGES OF PAPER that get in the way of a great sketch, followed by manually entering all the data points, scanning in all the paper, and the long, tedious process of drawing everything a second time in Illustrator (sometimes by someone who has never even been in the cave), then months/years later you finally have a printable map. Seems like with this setup you have a complete map the moment you walk out of the cave. Holy crap! Why haven't we all switched to this? --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
This idea of paperless caving has been around for quite a while. In addition to the Swiss site cited below, there was a detailed article by Mark Passerby in the final issue of the now defunct Caves.com Magazine (issue 9, circa 2004) about using it in a caving project in WV. See http://www.cavediggers.com/magazine/9th.pdf under Raders Valley Project, p. 4. Of course a lot of the technology discussed there is obsolete as better devices and software are now available. Mark At 09:12 PM 8/24/2012, Bennett Lee wrote: I've heard about azimuth/inclination mods to distos, but I didn't know there was a Bluetooth addition with software that imports the data and lets you sketch on a PDA. From the pics, it looks like you can get more accurate sketches because you can quickly shoot to every key wall and feature in the room and draw your sketch around the survey points (more or less real-time) right on the PDA screen. That's freaking sweet! Screw paper sketches, those awful high-angle measurements, erasure marks, and ANNOYING EDGES OF PAPER that get in the way of a great sketch, followed by manually entering all the data points, scanning in all the paper, and the long, tedious process of drawing everything a second time in Illustrator (sometimes by someone who has never even been in the cave), then months/years later you finally have a printable map. Seems like with this setup you have a complete map the moment you walk out of the cave. Holy crap! Why haven't we all switched to this? --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
I've heard about azimuth/inclination mods to distos, but I didn't know there was a Bluetooth addition with software that imports the data and lets you sketch on a PDA. From the pics, it looks like you can get more accurate sketches because you can quickly shoot to every key wall and feature in the room and draw your sketch around the survey points (more or less real-time) right on the PDA screen. That's freaking sweet! Screw paper sketches, those awful high-angle measurements, erasure marks, and ANNOYING EDGES OF PAPER that get in the way of a great sketch, followed by manually entering all the data points, scanning in all the paper, and the long, tedious process of drawing everything a second time in Illustrator (sometimes by someone who has never even been in the cave), then months/years later you finally have a printable map. Seems like with this setup you have a complete map the moment you walk out of the cave. Holy crap! Why haven't we all switched to this? --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replace m ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Nope. I was asking about the DistoX mod card for the Leica DX. It gives you azimuth, elevation, and distance in 1 shot. And its got a LASER beam!No more bag of instruments and tape to drag. Two people can do a survey in no time. Scott Serur-- Sent from my HP TouchPadOn Aug 24, 2012 7:17 PM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an "all in one" survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a "paperless survey": http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Imagine not only distance, azimuth and inclination recorded in one shot to a memory card but also the ability to produce passage wall outlines and running profiles just by walking between the stations. Plus take cross sections at any point or measure room outlines. All data is pre-formatted for direct import into Walls. Steve Gutting, Gregg Williams and I are building such a device and an early prototype has already been cave tested. The next prototype with a full set of sensors and a touchscreen GUI is nearly complete. And yes, it has a laser. Joe Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:54 PM, S S back2scool...@hotmail.com wrote: Nope. I was asking about the DistoX mod card for the Leica DX.It gives you azimuth, elevation, and distance in 1 shot. And its got a LASER beam! No more bag of instruments and tape to drag. Two people can do a survey in no time. Scott Serur -- Sent from my HP TouchPad On Aug 24, 2012 7:17 PM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
I've heard about azimuth/inclination mods to distos, but I didn't know there was a Bluetooth addition with software that imports the data and lets you sketch on a PDA. From the pics, it looks like you can get more accurate sketches because you can quickly shoot to every key wall and feature in the room and draw your sketch around the survey points (more or less real-time) right on the PDA screen. That's freaking sweet! Screw paper sketches, those awful high-angle measurements, erasure marks, and ANNOYING EDGES OF PAPER that get in the way of a great sketch, followed by manually entering all the data points, scanning in all the paper, and the long, tedious process of drawing everything a second time in Illustrator (sometimes by someone who has never even been in the cave), then months/years later you finally have a printable map. Seems like with this setup you have a complete map the moment you walk out of the cave. Holy crap! Why haven't we all switched to this? --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replace m ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Nope. I was asking about the DistoX mod card for the Leica DX. It gives you azimuth, elevation, and distance in 1 shot. And its got a LASER beam!No more bag of instruments and tape to drag. Two people can do a survey in no time. Scott Serur-- Sent from my HP TouchPadOn Aug 24, 2012 7:17 PM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an "all in one" survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a "paperless survey": http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Imagine not only distance, azimuth and inclination recorded in one shot to a memory card but also the ability to produce passage wall outlines and running profiles just by walking between the stations. Plus take cross sections at any point or measure room outlines. All data is pre-formatted for direct import into Walls. Steve Gutting, Gregg Williams and I are building such a device and an early prototype has already been cave tested. The next prototype with a full set of sensors and a touchscreen GUI is nearly complete. And yes, it has a laser. Joe Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:54 PM, S S back2scool...@hotmail.com wrote: Nope. I was asking about the DistoX mod card for the Leica DX.It gives you azimuth, elevation, and distance in 1 shot. And its got a LASER beam! No more bag of instruments and tape to drag. Two people can do a survey in no time. Scott Serur -- Sent from my HP TouchPad On Aug 24, 2012 7:17 PM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacement.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
I've heard about azimuth/inclination mods to distos, but I didn't know there was a Bluetooth addition with software that imports the data and lets you sketch on a PDA. From the pics, it looks like you can get more accurate sketches because you can quickly shoot to every key wall and feature in the room and draw your sketch around the survey points (more or less real-time) right on the PDA screen. That's freaking sweet! Screw paper sketches, those awful high-angle measurements, erasure marks, and ANNOYING EDGES OF PAPER that get in the way of a great sketch, followed by manually entering all the data points, scanning in all the paper, and the long, tedious process of drawing everything a second time in Illustrator (sometimes by someone who has never even been in the cave), then months/years later you finally have a printable map. Seems like with this setup you have a complete map the moment you walk out of the cave. Holy crap! Why haven't we all switched to this? --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:18 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replace m ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Nope. I was asking about the DistoX mod card for the Leica DX. It gives you azimuth, elevation, and distance in 1 shot. And its got a LASER beam!No more bag of instruments and tape to drag. Two people can do a survey in no time. Scott Serur-- Sent from my HP TouchPadOn Aug 24, 2012 7:17 PM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an "all in one" survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a "paperless survey": http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever.
Imagine not only distance, azimuth and inclination recorded in one shot to a memory card but also the ability to produce passage wall outlines and running profiles just by walking between the stations. Plus take cross sections at any point or measure room outlines. All data is pre-formatted for direct import into Walls. Steve Gutting, Gregg Williams and I are building such a device and an early prototype has already been cave tested. The next prototype with a full set of sensors and a touchscreen GUI is nearly complete. And yes, it has a laser. Joe Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:54 PM, S S back2scool...@hotmail.com wrote: Nope. I was asking about the DistoX mod card for the Leica DX.It gives you azimuth, elevation, and distance in 1 shot. And its got a LASER beam! No more bag of instruments and tape to drag. Two people can do a survey in no time. Scott Serur -- Sent from my HP TouchPad On Aug 24, 2012 7:17 PM, Fofo f...@gzluna.com wrote: Hey Bennett. Sorry if there is some confusion, and maybe Serur was asking about the Disto just as a distance measuring tool and in that case, yeah, the D210XT is great. But there are some aftermarket modifications that can be made to the (now obsolete) Disto A3 that make it measure azimuth and inclination as well as distance, so it becomes an all in one survey tool (and if you couple it via Bluetooth with a PDA running PocketTopo or Auriga, it's a paperless survey: http://paperless.bheeb.ch/ ). There is an effort to be able to modify the newer Distos, but it apparently has been much more challenging, that's what I was talking about. Take care, - Fofo On 24/08/12 17:07, Bennett Lee wrote: I've been using the replacement model, the Disto D210XT, for several months. I've been happy with it. Not waterproof, but dust/water resistant enough to handle muddy caves, brief drops in water, and cleaning off in my sink at home. More features than we need cave surveying, but the ones we do need (units, single shot, max/min distance) are accessible and easy to use. Plus the 3-line display lets you quickly pop off 3 shots and average. Nice rubber grip. Runs on 2 AAA batteries, which most of us cavers have on hand in the cave. Haven't heard about the issues Fofo mentioned--mine has been working great. My only complaint is that the large screen is easily scratched, but so far mine has been surviving cave abuse quite well. I'm so pleased that I've been considering buying a second so I have a backup that I can use while sketching. The D210XT runs $219 online. --Bennett -Original Message- From: Fofo [mailto:f...@gzluna.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:09 AM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] DistoX X2 Whatever. Yeah. Kevin Dixon made a batch of Disto X boards last year, and it was probably the last one since some of the parts are obsolete and hard to find (and the Leica A3 which this board fits is also pretty hard to find now). I'm excited about the Disto DXT (the newer version), apparently there have been several issues, but I hope that they figure them out soon. So, Serur, at this point it sounds like your best bet would be to find someone who owns a Disto X and hopefully you can borrow it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 24/8/12 6:55 : The Disto X is no longer being made. However a newer version is under development. See http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/01/digital-surveying-disto-x-replacem ent.html, http://paperless.bheeb.ch/. Mark At 03:07 AM 8/24/2012, S S wrote: Does anyone know where you can get a DistoX or whatever the latest revision is. And any feedback on these. Serur - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
