re:A Slap at France, Brown-Waite's Bill Would Bring the Boys Home
Seems this Brown-Waite misses the point that the warhawks are proposing for this bout to bury the boys in mass graves in Iraq, or send home a portion of ashes from mas incineration, if they even admit your son/father/brother... was killed on this crusade for world dictatorship. AAAHHHAAHAHAHAHA.RE-ANIMATE? GOOD ONE.The idea of turning french fries into freedom fries has about the effect of when americans boycotted chinese restuarants here when the chinese captured our spy plane several years back. So what about all the Americans who think the french are doing the right thing? Will she want to ship them to france or belgium? I am going to pack my bagsWhen does the next concorde leave? - Original Message - From: jeani To: The Power Hour List Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: A Slap at France, Brown-Waite's Bill Would Bring the Boys Home Has she lost her freaking mind? Did she forget to put her brain back into the top of her cranium when she took it out last night? What a sick, perverted political ghoul. She wants to exhume 56,000 bodies from France and another 13,000 from Belgium to teachthem a lesson for not supporting the Bush killing machine.HaveBush and his administration forgot that the cemetary in which the deadare buriedin France and Belgium was given to the US by them. What does she plan to do with the remains? Reanimate them to recite the Pledge of Allegiance 24/7. http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2003303130388Profile=""> Article published Mar 13, 2003A Slap at France, Brown-Waite's Bill Would Bring the Boys HomeBy Cory ReissLedger Washington BureauWASHINGTON -- America's relationship with France is about to hit a new low.Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Brooksville, is writing legislation that would encourage the exhumation and return of American war dead buried in France and Belgium. She expects to introduce the legislation today out of frustration with those countries' opposition to a war in Iraq."Many people visit the graves of their parents and grandparents who served in World War I and World War II and are buried in France and Belgium," said Brown-Waite, whose district includes a portion of Polk County north of Interstate 4 between State Road 33 on the east and the Hillsborough County line on the west. "The question becomes, `Should we continue to support their eco-nomy when the French government has turned their back on us?' "Many Americans are boycotting French wine and cheese for the same reason. A House Republican leader Tuesday banned the word "French" from the chamber's cafeteria menus, turning french fries and French toast into freedom fries and freedom toast.The culinary censorship has earned laughs from talk-show audiences, but the mothers of several soldiers killed in combat groaned at the idea that people might dig up soldiers after so long because of this feud."After all these years -- to me, when a person is buried, it's sacred ground," said Dorothy Oxendine, president of American Gold Star Mothers, whose members have lost children in combat. Oxendine's son was killed in Vietnam in 1968.Brown-Waite's bill would require the Department of Defense to exhume and return the bodies on request by a qualified family member. The soldiers could be buried at a national cemetery or, if the family wishes, turned over for private burial.Ken Graham, 65, sparked the legislation two weeks ago when he approached Brown-Waite at a rally in Florida and told her he wanted to bring his father home. Melborn Graham was killed fighting in France in 1944 and buried in Alsace-Lorraine. Graham, who was 7 when the telegram announcing his father's death arrived at their home in Enterprise, Ala., has never been to the cemetery.He said he has always thought it was wrong that Americans were left overseas instead of brought home. Over the years, he said, French policy has caused his frustration to mount, boiling over with France's position on Iraq. He said anti-Americanism has made France an unfit place for American soldiers who fought there."I'm really upset," said Graham, who lives in Hernando County. "It's just not true that they're buried in an honorable place over there."More than 56,000 Americans are buried in France and more than 13,000 in Belgium from both world wars. A frequent complaint about the French position on Iraq is that the traditional ally has forgotten that America lost so many lives fighting for France.Brown-Waite said she didn't know if many people would ask for the exhumations if her bill were to pass. "But I do believe we should give them the opportunity. . . . It'll send a loud and clear message."A spokeswoman for the French embassy said repatriation of American soldiers would take this dispute to a far different level than
Re: A Slap at France, Brown-Waite's Bill Would Bring the Boys Home
I called Miss Ginny's Washington DC office yesterday. I talked to her idiot assistant and read him the riot act and told him to tell his birdbrained boss that our fallen heros already are at home. Our military cemetaries in France are sovereign United States property, justthe same as all of our embassies. The French citizens maintain our veteran's cemetaries better than we do here in our own country. The French have the highest respect for those soldiers.Our French veteran'scemetariesare beautifully landscaped and magnificently manicured, the grass looks as though it was combed by hand. The French schoolchildren are assigned individual graves and every year on June 6th they place flowers on every single grave and there are literally tens of thousands of them. All of us have relatives buried overseas if you go back far enough. Are we going dig up all of our ancestors also? Leave it to a sleazy politician to use our dead war heros in some cheap attempt to garner publicity. Some Americans think we should adopt an isolationist policy toward the rest of the world. It's funny how much the rest of the world agrees with them. Has anyone suggested a bill to ship back the Statue of Liberty? Or sell back the former Louisiana Territory? Or stop teaching French in schools? Or boycotting Blockbuster until they alter titles like: The French Connection? Ginny Brown-Waite is a freshman, or junior, representative in Congress and she is already a member of the House Veterans Committee. She is culpable for the state of our VA hospitals and the way our government treatsour veterans with intentional indifference. Thefact that we have homeless veterans in the United States of America is a national scandal and disgrace. Maybe France should pass a bill to bring home the Statue of Liberty, and then help hand the US back to the British Empire. One thing that people tend to miss in this whole debate is that France,remembers better than many, and certainly better than America, what war means andunderstands the devastation of losing an entire generation of young men; knows the pain of burying their dead and rebuilding their towns; knows what it's like to have an enemy who wants nothing better than to see you fall. Maybe this is why France is loath to pave a path to war; not because they want to "take a stand" against America or have any personal vendetta against anyone, but because they better than anyone know what war means, and want to prevent it if at all possible. I don't know why some people can't grasp the concept that some one can actually hold twoindependent ideas at the same time about something. Yes, it's possible for the French to respect America for its assistance in WWII and at the same time oppose the invasion of Iraq. Just as, if a person had anyintelligence whatsoever,they should be able to respect Frances' assistance to America in the Revolutionary War andunderstand France's current position regarding Iraq and not act like little childrenthrowing temper tantrums because some one else disagrees with them. President Chirac's efforts to find a way to disarm Saddam without getting American troops killed is not an act of effrontery or hatred toward the United States. What if France decided they wanted to oust the regime in Saudi Arabia? They're not exactly paragons in their treatment of their own people. Suppose France decided they were going to invade Saudi Arabia and install a new government. Would we jump right in and lend a hand or would we say "wait, let's think this thing over first."? So why should we expect other countries to jump to our whims? Just because George W. Bush says so? France doesn't want to start another war. So what. Neither does 90% of the rest of the world right want to start another war. We're sure showing France a thing or two! First we rename our junk and breakfastfood and now we're going to take backall our dead people. I sure hope this teaches them a lesson. This country is full of idiotic five-year-olds masquerading as Congressional representatives. I hope someone is keepinga recordof all this stupidity. Let this be the last term these children serve. Is it anywonder why other people hate the Unites States when we have crackpot lunatics like Miss Ginny in Congress??? I encourage everyone to call, write or fax Miss Ginny and express their feelingsabout her proposed legislation! Astro Web Site: www.house.gov/brown-waiteE-mail: Contact Via 'Write Your Rep.'Washington Office1516 Longworth House Office BuildingWashington, D.C. 20515-0905Phone: (202) 225-1002Fax: (202) 226-6559 Main District Office38008 Meridian Ave.Dade City, FL 33526Phone: (352) 567-6707Fax: (352) 567-6259 BrooksvillePhone: (352) 799-8354Fax: (352) 799-8776Address:20 North Main St., Rm. 200Brooksville, FL 34601
Re: re:A Slap at France, Brown-Waite's Bill Would Bring the Boys Home
The people in Ginny Brown-Waite's district were disfranchised in the last election. They were given the choice between incumbent Karen Thurman and Brown-Waite. Do you prefer hanging or electrocution? Thurman never met a piece of legislation with a severe port list that she did not like. Brown-Waite left her brain in the hustings when she went to join the other denizens of the District of Criminals. Do not think it will slow Dubya down, but here is hoping France veto's any positive vote for Juniors war against the innocents in Iraq. And if I drank this would be an excellent time for a bottle of FRENCH WINE. - Original Message - From: Tom Kearse To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: re:A Slap at France, Brown-Waite's Bill Would Bring the Boys Home Seems this Brown-Waite misses the point that the warhawks are proposing for this bout to bury the boys in mass graves in Iraq, or send home a portion of ashes from mas incineration, if they even admit your son/father/brother... was killed on this crusade for world dictatorship. AAAHHHAAHAHAHAHA.RE-ANIMATE? GOOD ONE.The idea of turning french fries into freedom fries has about the effect of when americans boycotted chinese restuarants here when the chinese captured our spy plane several years back. So what about all the Americans who think the french are doing the right thing? Will she want to ship them to france or belgium? I am going to pack my bagsWhen does the next concorde leave? - Original Message - From: jeani To: The Power Hour List Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: A Slap at France, Brown-Waite's Bill Would Bring the Boys Home Has she lost her freaking mind? Did she forget to put her brain back into the top of her cranium when she took it out last night? What a sick, perverted political ghoul. She wants to exhume 56,000 bodies from France and another 13,000 from Belgium to teachthem a lesson for not supporting the Bush killing machine.HaveBush and his administration forgot that the cemetary in which the deadare buriedin France and Belgium was given to the US by them. What does she plan to do with the remains? Reanimate them to recite the Pledge of Allegiance 24/7. http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2003303130388Profile=""> Article published Mar 13, 2003A Slap at France, Brown-Waite's Bill Would Bring the Boys HomeBy Cory ReissLedger Washington BureauWASHINGTON -- America's relationship with France is about to hit a new low.Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Brooksville, is writing legislation that would encourage the exhumation and return of American war dead buried in France and Belgium. She expects to introduce the legislation today out of frustration with those countries' opposition to a war in Iraq."Many people visit the graves of their parents and grandparents who served in World War I and World War II and are buried in France and Belgium," said Brown-Waite, whose district includes a portion of Polk County north of Interstate 4 between State Road 33 on the east and the Hillsborough County line on the west. "The question becomes, `Should we continue to support their eco-nomy when the French government has turned their back on us?' "Many Americans are boycotting French wine and cheese for the same reason. A House Republican leader Tuesday banned the word "French" from the chamber's cafeteria menus, turning french fries and French toast into freedom fries and freedom toast.The culinary censorship has earned laughs from talk-show audiences, but the mothers of several soldiers killed in combat groaned at the idea that people might dig up soldiers after so long because of this feud."After all these years -- to me, when a person is buried, it's sacred ground," said Dorothy Oxendine, president of American Gold Star Mothers, whose members have lost children in combat. Oxendine's son was killed in Vietnam in 1968.Brown-Waite's bill would require the Department of Defense to exhume and return the bodies on request by a qualified family member. The soldiers could be buried at a national cemetery or, if the family wishes, turned over for private burial.Ken Graham, 65, sparked the legislation two weeks ago when he approached Brown-Waite at a rally in Florida and told her he wanted to bring his father home. Melborn Graham was killed fighting in France in 1944 and buried in Alsace-Lorraine. Graham, who was 7 when the telegram announcing his father's death arrived at their home in Enterprise, Ala., has never been to the cemetery.He said he has always thought it was wrong that Americans were left overseas instead
Journalists' group upset as Canada Customs 'detains' anti-war film
"A film, highly critical of U.S. foreign policy, was imported by Global Outlook magazine , an alternative news service." It was retained and examined by Canada Customs for "obscenity, or for being outright hate literature" Journalists' group upset as Canada Customs 'detains' anti-war film by Christopher Hutsul Toronto Star, 13 March 2003. www.globalresearch.ca 14 March 2003 The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/HUT303A.html Canada Customs released a detained shipment of anti-war tapes yesterday, but the group Canadian Journalists For Free Expression is perturbed that the two-hour film What I Learned About U.S. Foreign Policy, by American documentary producer Frank Dorrel, was held in the first place. "The Canada Customs and Revenue Agency's involvement in vetting political material is a worrisome departure for the federal agency," said Joel Ruimy, group executive director. "In the past, the material they held on to was being examined for obscenity, or for being outright hate literature. But in this case, it seems to be a political decision based on a perspective in the current geopolitical universe." Ruimy said it was "curious" that the tapes were detained now, after more than 1,000 copies had been shipped earlier without incident. Customs said the move earlier this month was a detainment, not a seizure. "The tapes were detained because they were suspected of being hate literature, so we reviewed them, then we released them," said spokesperson Colette Gentes-Hawn. She said many of the thousands of packages shipped over the border each year are detained, for no more than 30 days. Those found to be prohibited may be shipped back or abandoned. The film, highly critical of U.S. foreign policy, was imported by Global Outlook magazine , an alternative news service. Editors Note: Frank Dorrel's Video What I Learned of US Foreign Policy has been released from Canada Customs. If you wish to order it, click here (scroll down) http://www.patriotsforpeace.org/http://www.winwithoutwarus.org/http://www.truemajority.org/http://www.notinourname.net/http://www.endthewar.org/http://www.internationalanswer.org/http://www.peacepledge.org/http://www.citiesforpeace.org/**Ain't Karma A Bitch!
Ex-CIA Officers Questioning Iraq Data
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRAQ_INTELLIGENCE?SITE=FLPETSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULT Mar 14, 1:45 PM ESTEx-CIA Officers Questioning Iraq Data By JOHN J. LUMPKINAssociated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) -- A small group composed mostly of retired CIA officers is appealing to colleagues still inside to go public with any evidence the Bush administration is slanting intelligence to support its case for war with Iraq. Members of the group contend the Bush administration has released information on Iraq that meets only its ends - while ignoring or withholding contrary reporting. They also say the administration's public evidence about the immediacy of Iraq's threat to the United States and its alleged ties to al-Qaida is unconvincing, and accuse policy-makers of pushing out some information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standards of proof. "It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," said Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who briefed top Reagan administration security officials before retiring in 1990. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days." A CIA spokesman suggested McGovern and his supporters were unqualified to describe the quality of intelligence provided to policy-makers. "He left the agency over a decade ago," said spokesman Mark Mansfield. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject." McGovern's group, calling itself Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, includes about 25 retired officers, mostly from the CIA's analytical branch but with a smattering from its operational side and other agencies, he said. Carrying an anti-war bent, they invoke the names of whistle-blowers like Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers take a secrecy oath when they join. Prosecutions of violations are rare, but government personnel caught leaking nondefense information may lose their security clearances, or their jobs. Federal law also offers protections to whistle-blowers in some cases. McGovern and his supporters acknowledge their appeal to their colleagues inside the CIA and other agencies is unusual. The CIA's culture tends to keep disputes inside the family, and many intelligence officers shun discussions of American policy - such as whether war on Iraq is justified - saying it is their job to provide information, not to decide how to act on it. McGovern, who now works in an inner-city outreach ministry in Washington, said of his group's request, "It goes against the whole ethic of secrecy and going through channels, and going to the (Inspector General). It takes a courageous person to get by all that, and say, 'I've got a higher duty.'" Agency spokesman Mansfield said, "Our role is to call it like we see it, to provide objective, unvarnished assessments. That's the code we live by, and that's what policy-makers expect from us." The administration says its information is sound. During Secretary of State Colin Powell's address to the United Nations Security Council last month, he said, "These are not assertions. What we are giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence." But other countries have challenged the accuracy of several of Powell's statements. And it is no secret that in the past some people with access to intelligence information - such as members of Congress or a presidential administration - have leaked selected pieces that lend support to a given policy. This can provide the public with a less-than-complete picture of what the CIA and other agencies have learned. Another member of McGovern's group, Patrick Eddington, resigned from the CIA in 1996 to protest what he describes as the agency's refusal to investigate some of the possible causes of Gulf War veterans' medical problems. Eddington said would-be whistle-blowers can privately contact members of Congress to get their message out. "They have to basically put conscience before career," he said. Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA counterterrorism chief, said he saw little chance of CIA analysts going public to contradict the Bush administration. "Sure, there's a lot of disagreement among analysts in the intelligence community on how things are going to be used (by policy-makers)," he said. "But you are not going to see people making public resignations. That would mean giving up your career." Ms. Jean Isachenko, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Forgotten Power of the General Assembly
http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=386906 Robert Fisk: The forgotten power of the General Assembly 14 March 2003 For 30 years, America's veto policy in the United Nations has been central to its foreign policy. More than 70 times the United States has shamelessly used its veto in the UN, most recently to crush a Security Council resolution condemning the Israeli killing of the British UN worker Iain Hook in Jenin last December. Most of America's vetoes have been in support of its ally Israel. It has vetoed a resolution calling for the Israeli withdrawal from the Syrian Golan Heights (January, 1982), a resolution condemning the killing of 11 Muslims by Israeli soldiers near the al-Aqsa mosque (April, 1982), and a resolution condemning Israelis slaughter of 106 Lebanese refugees at the UN camp at Qana (April, 1986). The full list would fill more than a page of this newspaper. And now we are told by George Bush Junior that the Security Council will become irrelevant if France, Germany and Russia use their veto? I often wonder how much further the sanctimoniousness of the Bush administration can go. Much further, I fear. So here's a little idea that might just make the American administration even angrier and even more aware of its obligations to the rest of the world. It's a forgotten UN General Assembly resolution that could stop an invasion of Iraq, a relic of the Cold War. It was, ironically, pushed through by the US to prevent a Soviet veto at the time of the Korean conflict, and actually used at the time of Suez. For UN resolution 377 allows the General Assembly to recommend collective action "if the Security Council, because of lack of unanimity of the permanent members, fails to exercise its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security". This arcane but intriguing piece of UN legislation passed in 1950 and originally known as the "Uniting for Peace" resolution might just be used to prevent Messrs Bush and Blair going to war if their plans are vetoed in the Security Council by France or Russia. Fundamentally, it makes clear that the UN General Assembly can step in as it has 10 times in the past if the Security Council is not unanimous. Of course, the General Assembly of 1950 was a different creature from what it is today. The post-war world was divided and the West saw America as its protector rather than a potential imperial power. The UN's first purpose was and is still supposed to be to "maintain international peace and security". Duncan Currie, a lawyer working for Greenpeace, has set out a legal opinion, which points out that the phrase in 377 providing that in "any case where there appears to be a threat to the peace, breach of the peace or act of aggression", the General Assembly "shall consider the matter immediately" means that since "threat" and "breach" are mentioned separately the Assembly can be called into session before hostilities start. These "breaches", of course, could already be alleged, starting with the American air attack on Iraqi anti-ship gun batteries near Basra on 13 January this year. The White House and readers of The Independent, and perhaps a few UN officials can look up the 377 resolution at www.un.org/Depts/dhl/landmark/amajor.htm If Mr Bush takes a look, he probably wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry. But today the General Assembly dead dog as we have all come to regard it might just be the place for the world to cry: Stop. Enough. Ms. Jean Isachenko, [EMAIL PROTECTED] newspaper.gif
