[Therion] Do people use Toughbooks for mapping
I considered one for a while but they are just too big and awkward to handle though most caves I frequent. Sketching would be great but unless you are mapping a big easy to walk through cave then I don't think a Toughbook would last two minutes. Also I'm not sure battery life would be good enough for anything other than short sessions. Dell Axim pda in an Otter box 1900 is the best I have used, the screen is small but so far it has been a bomb proof combination. The Otter box is a good choice as I can climb with it tucked down the front of my oversuit, the hand strap means I never drop it and it really is water proof if you keep it clean. I was receiving data from the Disto the other week when the pda was 6" underwater. I found that quite exciting in a sad sort of way. The whole set up including the Disto and an Olympus TG2 compact fits perfectly into a Peli 1120 case which is very easy to transport. It would be interesting to here from anyone who has tried a Toughbook as they can go for not a lot of money on Fleabay. Won't beat £15 for an Axim though and I now have enough Axim's and Otter boxes to last me for the rest of my active life all for less than £90. Let's hope those Zebedee things don't work as that will have been a waste. From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Rob Countess Sent: 19 October 2015 16:39 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] Do people use Toughbooks for mapping My caves are deeper than my pockets I almost bought one but decided to try a cheaper option first. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 4:33 AM, rowena mailto:rowena_l at tpg.com.au>> wrote: Hi, Does anyone use a Panasonic toughbook for caving? Do you get the DistoX data direct uploaded to Therion on a toughbook? If so how well do they go underground and what other mapping tools do you use with it? Rowena ___ Therion mailing list Therion at speleo.sk<mailto:Therion at speleo.sk> http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20151019/90de5ef0/attachment.html>
[Therion] Plotting scraps and the centreline together
Hi, I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out how to plot both. In my thconfig file I have: symbol-show point station symbol-show group cave-centreline symbol-show point station-name debug station-names so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation. However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding: input 107ee_ropeless.th2 input 107ee_china_new.th2 input 107ee_oldroute.th2 to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave. I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can anyone help? In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and reading in survex data as a 3d file. Thanks, Jenny
[Therion] Plotting scraps and the centreline together
(Actually you only need to check out the http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/MatienzoCaves/5Valleys/Therion%20Drawings/ folder to get the complete Therion project) Footleg On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 5:27 PM Footleg wrote: > Hi Jenny, > > I have a project where I do this. I think I copied the idea off Bruce. > I've just taken another look at the files to see how it works. I have a map > definition in my project which looks like this: > > map CarcPlanCL -title "Carcavuezo centreline Plan" -projection plan > 4ValleysCL #centreline survey > endmap > > All my map definitions are in the Carc_Map-Complete.th file which is > referenced in my survey in the master .th file of my project. That file > imports a survey 3D file for the centreline. Note how the map defined above > contains the name of the survey from my master file, rather than the name > of a map or scrap. The master .th file contents are as follows: > > survey Carcavuezo > > survey 4ValleysCL > import 0081_therion.3d -surveys use -cs EPSG:25830 > endsurvey > > input Carc_MAP-Complete.th > > endsurvey > > - > All you need to do to include the entire centreline from the survey in the > PDF is include the map CarcPlanCL in the map you are generating the PDF > from (along with the other maps which contain the scraps you want to plot > on the PDF. Just remember you cannot mix maps and scraps in a map > definition, which is why I have the special map containing the survey > rather than including the survey in my master map directly. > > Also remember in your thconfig file to specify which map is the master map > to generate the PDF from (in my thconfig file I declare: select > CarcavuezoPlan at Carcavuezo ) > > If you want to play with my complete project then you can check it out > from the UK cave registry svn here: > http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/MatienzoCaves/5Valleys > > This particular project is part of a much larger one (the entire 5 > valleys). You want to process the thconfig-carcavuezo project in the > folder 5Valleys\Therion Drawings\0081_Carcavuezo > > Footleg > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM Martin Sluka wrote: > >> Jenny, >> >> It looks the problem is you want to mix maps defined from scraps and maps >> defined from surveys. Try to draw âblindâ scraps only with stations and >> generate map from scraps. >> >> As I may say, I newer tried to define map as this: >> >> map from_surveys_only.map >> survey1 >> survey 2 >> endmap >> >> map from_scraps.map >> scrap1 >> scrap2 >> endmap >> >> map all.map >> map_from_surveys_only >> map_from_scraps >> endmap >> >> thconfig: >> >> select all.map >> >> m.s. >> >> >> > 19. 10. 2015 v 6:23, Jenny Black : >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in >> > the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out >> > how to plot both. >> > >> > In my thconfig file I have: >> > symbol-show point station >> > symbol-show group cave-centreline >> > symbol-show point station-name >> > debug station-names >> > >> > so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations >> > nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with >> > figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation. >> > >> > However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding: >> > input 107ee_ropeless.th2 >> > input 107ee_china_new.th2 >> > input 107ee_oldroute.th2 >> > to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the >> > scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave. >> > >> > I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire >> > centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was >> > looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can >> > anyone help? >> > >> > In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and >> > reading in survex data as a 3d file. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Jenny >> > ___ >> > Therion mailing list >> > Therion at speleo.sk >> > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion >> >> ___ >> Therion mailing list >> Therion at speleo.sk >> http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion >> > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20151019/b4c16c64/attachment.html>
[Therion] Plotting scraps and the centreline together
Hi Jenny, I have a project where I do this. I think I copied the idea off Bruce. I've just taken another look at the files to see how it works. I have a map definition in my project which looks like this: map CarcPlanCL -title "Carcavuezo centreline Plan" -projection plan 4ValleysCL #centreline survey endmap All my map definitions are in the Carc_Map-Complete.th file which is referenced in my survey in the master .th file of my project. That file imports a survey 3D file for the centreline. Note how the map defined above contains the name of the survey from my master file, rather than the name of a map or scrap. The master .th file contents are as follows: survey Carcavuezo survey 4ValleysCL import 0081_therion.3d -surveys use -cs EPSG:25830 endsurvey input Carc_MAP-Complete.th endsurvey - All you need to do to include the entire centreline from the survey in the PDF is include the map CarcPlanCL in the map you are generating the PDF from (along with the other maps which contain the scraps you want to plot on the PDF. Just remember you cannot mix maps and scraps in a map definition, which is why I have the special map containing the survey rather than including the survey in my master map directly. Also remember in your thconfig file to specify which map is the master map to generate the PDF from (in my thconfig file I declare: select CarcavuezoPlan at Carcavuezo ) If you want to play with my complete project then you can check it out from the UK cave registry svn here: http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/MatienzoCaves/5Valleys This particular project is part of a much larger one (the entire 5 valleys). You want to process the thconfig-carcavuezo project in the folder 5Valleys\Therion Drawings\0081_Carcavuezo Footleg On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM Martin Sluka wrote: > Jenny, > > It looks the problem is you want to mix maps defined from scraps and maps > defined from surveys. Try to draw âblindâ scraps only with stations and > generate map from scraps. > > As I may say, I newer tried to define map as this: > > map from_surveys_only.map > survey1 > survey 2 > endmap > > map from_scraps.map > scrap1 > scrap2 > endmap > > map all.map > map_from_surveys_only > map_from_scraps > endmap > > thconfig: > > select all.map > > m.s. > > > > 19. 10. 2015 v 6:23, Jenny Black : > > > > Hi, > > > > I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in > > the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out > > how to plot both. > > > > In my thconfig file I have: > > symbol-show point station > > symbol-show group cave-centreline > > symbol-show point station-name > > debug station-names > > > > so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations > > nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with > > figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation. > > > > However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding: > > input 107ee_ropeless.th2 > > input 107ee_china_new.th2 > > input 107ee_oldroute.th2 > > to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the > > scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave. > > > > I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire > > centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was > > looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can > > anyone help? > > > > In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and > > reading in survex data as a 3d file. > > > > Thanks, > > Jenny > > ___ > > Therion mailing list > > Therion at speleo.sk > > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion at speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20151019/283a746f/attachment.html>
[Therion] Plotting scraps and the centreline together
Jenny, It looks the problem is you want to mix maps defined from scraps and maps defined from surveys. Try to draw âblindâ scraps only with stations and generate map from scraps. As I may say, I newer tried to define map as this: map from_surveys_only.map survey1 survey 2 endmap map from_scraps.map scrap1 scrap2 endmap map all.map map_from_surveys_only map_from_scraps endmap thconfig: select all.map m.s. > 19. 10. 2015 v 6:23, Jenny Black : > > Hi, > > I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in > the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out > how to plot both. > > In my thconfig file I have: > symbol-show point station > symbol-show group cave-centreline > symbol-show point station-name > debug station-names > > so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations > nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with > figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation. > > However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding: > input 107ee_ropeless.th2 > input 107ee_china_new.th2 > input 107ee_oldroute.th2 > to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the > scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave. > > I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire > centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was > looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can > anyone help? > > In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and > reading in survex data as a 3d file. > > Thanks, > Jenny > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion at speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
[Therion] Do people use Toughbooks for mapping
My caves are deeper than my pockets I almost bought one but decided to try a cheaper option first. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 4:33 AM, rowena wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone use a Panasonic toughbook for caving? Do you get the DistoX > data direct uploaded to Therion on a toughbook? > If so how well do they go underground and what other mapping tools do you > use with it? > > Rowena > > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion at speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20151019/c63d5173/attachment.html>
