Re: [Therion] Exclude line parts in XVI export

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

> 30. 9. 2021 v 11:07, Torsten Schnitter :
> 
> After splitting centerline into severals I could use comment block for one of 
> these new centerlines. This is working for me. 
> Thanks for the advises! 


Comment-endcomment block works only directly inside survey-endsurvey. 

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Re: [Therion] Exclude line parts in XVI export

[Torsten Schnitter]

Hi Martin

I first tested "comment/endcomment" within the centerline command to comment 
some stations.
But this didn't work. A comment block is obviously not allowed within the 
centerline command.
(Using # for each single line is working)

After splitting centerline into severals I could use comment block for one of 
these new centerlines. This is working for me.
Thanks for the advises!
I never thought about using more than one centerline within a survey...

Yes, resurveyed part is a new/another survey.

Torsten

> Martin Sluka via Therion  hat am 30.09.2021 09:46 
> geschrieben:
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> > > 29. 9. 2021 v 16:57, Torsten Schnitter 
> mailto:torsten.schnit...@netcologne.de >:
> > 
> > Of course you have to start at a well known station and also end at 
> > a well know station to connect the "new" survey correctly to the existing 
> > one.
> > 
> > > 
> As I wrote, divide your centreline to several centrelines in the same 
> survey and comment-endcomment centreline of resurveied part.
> 
> And the new resurveied part is another survey, isn’t it.
> 
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Re: [Therion] Exclude line parts in XVI export

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

> 29. 9. 2021 v 16:57, Torsten Schnitter :
> 
> Of course you have to start at a well known station and also end at a well 
> know station to connect the "new" survey correctly to the existing one.

As I wrote, divide your centreline to several centrelines in the same survey 
and comment-endcomment centreline of resurveied part.

And the new resurveied part is another survey, isn’t it.

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Re: [Therion] Exclude line parts in XVI export

[Torsten Schnitter]

Hi Stacho

The process of surveying an under water cave is (sometimes) like this:
- install survey line (as the navigational line is not suitable for doing 
survey)
- measure the line (stick map)
- do side measurements
- remove the survey line

As the existing navigational line is sometimes not usable for survey you have 
to install your own survey line.
But as the cave is visited frequently by many divers you have to remove your 
survey line again as soon as possible. Usualy there should be only one line 
inside an under water cave for having an absolute clear navigation.

Unfortunately sometimes you have to resurvey a part of the line. E.g. when some 
side messurements are missing or even don't make sense.
But as the original survey line is not in place anymore and therefore also the 
survey stations are not, you have to install a new survey line and redo the 
survey.
Of course you have to start at a well known station and also end at a well know 
station to connect the "new" survey correctly to the existing one.

Well, I presume I have to use the comment command to exclude all duplicate 
stations.

Torsten

> Stacho Mudrak  hat am 29.09.2021 16:21 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hmmm, how many shots would you like to hide from XVI? 
> 
> You usually generate XVI once for drawing a map (unless you have a 
> running xtherion in the cave, which I do not assume is a case) - so 
> comment/uncomment should be sufficient. Especially assuming you need entire 
> centerline including splay shots to draw a map. Could you please describe 
> your workflow in detail to consider an appropriate solution?
> 
> Thanks, S.
> 
> On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 14:01, Torsten Schnitter 
> mailto:torsten.schnit...@netcologne.de > 
> wrote:
> 
> > > Hi List
> > 
> > Is there an option to exclude some parts of a line in a XVI export?
> > It also should be exluded from all calculations of course as it is 
> > dupclicated survey.
> > I couldn't find something for this in the Therion book.
> > E.g. with using flags for groups of data or anything else?
> > I would like to prevent using comments for all obsolete data to do 
> > this job.
> > 
> > I had to resurvey a part of a line (not complete line).
> > Therefore I want to export let's say station 0 to 5 from line A, 
> > then station 0 to 10 from line B and eventually station 15-18 from line A.
> > (station 0@lineB mailto:0@lineB = 5@lineA mailto:5@lineA and 
> > 10@lineB mailto:10@lineB = 15@lineA mailto:15@lineA )
> > Aim is to exclude a part from line A in the XVI export and not to 
> > be confused by obselete stations and shots.
> > "Flags splay" is good for excluding the data from calculations.
> > But which command is suitable for excluding parts of data in the 
> > XVI export?
> > Or is this not possible at all?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > Torsten
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Re: [Therion] Exclude line parts in XVI export

[Stacho Mudrak]

Hmmm, how many shots would you like to hide from XVI?

You usually generate XVI once for drawing a map (unless you have a running
xtherion in the cave, which I do not assume is a case) - so
comment/uncomment should be sufficient. Especially assuming you need
entire centerline including splay shots to draw a map. Could you please
describe your workflow in detail to consider an appropriate solution?

Thanks, S.

On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 14:01, Torsten Schnitter <
torsten.schnit...@netcologne.de> wrote:

> Hi List
>
> Is there an option to exclude some parts of a line in a XVI export?
> It also should be exluded from all calculations of course as it is
> dupclicated survey.
> I couldn't find something for this in the Therion book.
> E.g. with using flags for groups of data or anything else?
> I would like to prevent using comments for all obsolete data to do this
> job.
>
> I had to resurvey a part of a line (not complete line).
> Therefore I want to export let's say station 0 to 5 from line A, then
> station 0 to 10 from line B and eventually station 15-18 from line A.
> (station 0@lineB = 5@lineA and 10@lineB = 15@lineA)
> Aim is to exclude a part from line A in the XVI export and not to be
> confused by obselete stations and shots.
> "Flags splay" is good for excluding the data from calculations.
> But which command is suitable for excluding parts of data in the XVI
> export?
> Or is this not possible at all?
>
> Thanks.
> Torsten
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Re: [Therion] Exclude line parts in XVI export

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

From Thbook: 

flags  . set flags for following shots. The supported flags are: 
surface
(for surface measurements), duplicate (for duplicated surveys),

It should solve the problem with duplicate shots and length.

You may divide your centreline to smaller ones just copy header of centreline 
and endcenterline

centerline … endcenterline -> centerline … encenterline, 
centerline…endcenterline, …

And simple comment…endcomment appropriate centreline.

M.

> 29. 9. 2021 v 13:54, Torsten Schnitter :
> 
> Hi List 
> 
> Is there an option to exclude some parts of a line in a XVI export? 
> It also should be exluded from all calculations of course as it is 
> dupclicated survey. 
> I couldn't find something for this in the Therion book.
> E.g. with using flags for groups of data or anything else? 
> I would like to prevent using comments for all obsolete data to do this job. 
> 
> I had to resurvey a part of a line (not complete line). 
> Therefore I want to export let's say station 0 to 5 from line A, then station 
> 0 to 10 from line B and eventually station 15-18 from line A. 
> (station 0@lineB  = 5@lineA  and 10@lineB 
>  = 15@lineA ) 
> Aim is to exclude a part from line A in the XVI export and not to be confused 
> by obselete stations and shots. 
> "Flags splay" is good for excluding the data from calculations. 
> But which command is suitable for excluding parts of data in the XVI export? 
> Or is this not possible at all? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> Torsten 
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[Therion] Exclude line parts in XVI export

[Torsten Schnitter]

Hi List

Is there an option to exclude some parts of a line in a XVI export?
It also should be exluded from all calculations of course as it is dupclicated 
survey.
I couldn't find something for this in the Therion book.
E.g. with using flags for groups of data or anything else?
I would like to prevent using comments for all obsolete data to do this job.

I had to resurvey a part of a line (not complete line).
Therefore I want to export let's say station 0 to 5 from line A, then station 0 
to 10 from line B and eventually station 15-18 from line A.
(station 0@lineB mailto:0@lineB = 5@lineA mailto:5@lineA and 10@lineB 
mailto:10@lineB = 15@lineA mailto:15@lineA )
Aim is to exclude a part from line A in the XVI export and not to be confused 
by obselete stations and shots.
"Flags splay" is good for excluding the data from calculations.
But which command is suitable for excluding parts of data in the XVI export?
Or is this not possible at all?

Thanks.
Torsten
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