[Therion] Plotting scraps and the centreline together

2015-10-20 Thread Bruce Mutton 


JennyI have always done what you are trying to do, and the solution is as 
Martin says, create maps from surveys and maps from scraps and then combine 
them.It is a bit tedious, but the default Therion behaviour you describe is to 
hide centreline for surveys that have no scraps (unless there are no scraps at 
all).. This is the only work around I have found, so if there is a better way 
let us know!Bruce

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 Original message 
From: Martin Sluka <martinsl...@mac.com> 
Date: 19/10/2015  22:22  (GMT+12:00) 
To: List for Therion users  
Subject: Re: [Therion] Plotting scraps and the centreline together 

Jenny, 

It looks the problem is you want to mix maps defined from scraps and maps 
defined from surveys. Try to draw „blind“ scraps only with stations and 
generate map from scraps.

As I may say, I newer tried to define map as this:

map from_surveys_only.map
 survey1
 survey 2
endmap

map from_scraps.map
  scrap1
  scrap2
endmap

map all.map
  map_from_surveys_only
  map_from_scraps
endmap

thconfig:

select all.map

m.s. 


> 19. 10. 2015 v 6:23, Jenny Black :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in
> the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out
> how to plot both.
> 
> In my thconfig file I have:
> symbol-show point station
> symbol-show group cave-centreline
> symbol-show point station-name
> debug station-names
> 
> so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations
> nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with
> figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation.
> 
> However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding:
> input 107ee_ropeless.th2
> input 107ee_china_new.th2
> input 107ee_oldroute.th2
> to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the
> scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave.
> 
> I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire
> centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was
> looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can
> anyone help?
> 
> In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and
> reading in survex data as a 3d file.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jenny
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> Therion at speleo.sk
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[Therion] Plotting scraps and the centreline together

2015-10-19 Thread Jenny Black 
Hi,

I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in
the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out
how to plot both.

In my thconfig file I have:
 symbol-show point station
 symbol-show group cave-centreline
 symbol-show point station-name
 debug station-names

so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations
nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with
figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation.

However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding:
 input 107ee_ropeless.th2
 input 107ee_china_new.th2
 input 107ee_oldroute.th2
to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the
scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave.

I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire
centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was
looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can
anyone help?

In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and
reading in survex data as a 3d file.

Thanks,
Jenny

[Therion] Plotting scraps and the centreline together

2015-10-19 Thread Footleg 
(Actually you only need to check out the
http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/MatienzoCaves/5Valleys/Therion%20Drawings/
folder
to get the complete Therion project)

Footleg

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 5:27 PM Footleg  wrote:

> Hi Jenny,
>
> I have a project where I do this. I think I copied the idea off Bruce.
> I've just taken another look at the files to see how it works. I have a map
> definition in my project which looks like this:
>
> map CarcPlanCL -title "Carcavuezo centreline Plan" -projection plan
>   4ValleysCL #centreline survey
> endmap
>
> All my map definitions are in the Carc_Map-Complete.th file which is
> referenced in my survey in the master .th file of my project. That file
> imports a survey 3D file for the centreline. Note how the map defined above
> contains the name of the survey from my master file, rather than the name
> of a map or scrap. The master .th file contents are as follows:
>
> survey Carcavuezo
>
>   survey 4ValleysCL
> import 0081_therion.3d -surveys use -cs EPSG:25830
>   endsurvey
>
>   input Carc_MAP-Complete.th
>
> endsurvey
>
> -
> All you need to do to include the entire centreline from the survey in the
> PDF is include the map CarcPlanCL in the map you are generating the PDF
> from (along with the other maps which contain the scraps you want to plot
> on the PDF. Just remember you cannot mix maps and scraps in a map
> definition, which is why I have the special map containing the survey
> rather than including the survey in my master map directly.
>
> Also remember in your thconfig file to specify which map is the master map
> to generate the PDF from (in my thconfig file I declare: select
> CarcavuezoPlan at Carcavuezo )
>
> If you want to play with my complete project then you can check it out
> from the UK cave registry svn here:
> http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/MatienzoCaves/5Valleys
>
> This particular project is part of a much larger one (the entire 5
> valleys). You want to process the thconfig-carcavuezo project in the
> folder 5Valleys\Therion Drawings\0081_Carcavuezo
>
> Footleg
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM Martin Sluka  wrote:
>
>> Jenny,
>>
>> It looks the problem is you want to mix maps defined from scraps and maps
>> defined from surveys. Try to draw „blind“ scraps only with stations and
>> generate map from scraps.
>>
>> As I may say, I newer tried to define map as this:
>>
>> map from_surveys_only.map
>>  survey1
>>  survey 2
>> endmap
>>
>> map from_scraps.map
>>   scrap1
>>   scrap2
>> endmap
>>
>> map all.map
>>   map_from_surveys_only
>>   map_from_scraps
>> endmap
>>
>> thconfig:
>>
>> select all.map
>>
>> m.s.
>>
>>
>> > 19. 10. 2015 v 6:23, Jenny Black :
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in
>> > the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out
>> > how to plot both.
>> >
>> > In my thconfig file I have:
>> > symbol-show point station
>> > symbol-show group cave-centreline
>> > symbol-show point station-name
>> > debug station-names
>> >
>> > so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations
>> > nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with
>> > figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation.
>> >
>> > However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding:
>> > input 107ee_ropeless.th2
>> > input 107ee_china_new.th2
>> > input 107ee_oldroute.th2
>> > to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the
>> > scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave.
>> >
>> > I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire
>> > centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was
>> > looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can
>> > anyone help?
>> >
>> > In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and
>> > reading in survex data as a 3d file.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jenny
>> > ___
>> > Therion mailing list
>> > Therion at speleo.sk
>> > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
>>
>> ___
>> Therion mailing list
>> Therion at speleo.sk
>> http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
>>
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2015-10-19 Thread Footleg 
Hi Jenny,

I have a project where I do this. I think I copied the idea off Bruce. I've
just taken another look at the files to see how it works. I have a map
definition in my project which looks like this:

map CarcPlanCL -title "Carcavuezo centreline Plan" -projection plan
  4ValleysCL #centreline survey
endmap

All my map definitions are in the Carc_Map-Complete.th file which is
referenced in my survey in the master .th file of my project. That file
imports a survey 3D file for the centreline. Note how the map defined above
contains the name of the survey from my master file, rather than the name
of a map or scrap. The master .th file contents are as follows:

survey Carcavuezo

  survey 4ValleysCL
import 0081_therion.3d -surveys use -cs EPSG:25830
  endsurvey

  input Carc_MAP-Complete.th

endsurvey

-
All you need to do to include the entire centreline from the survey in the
PDF is include the map CarcPlanCL in the map you are generating the PDF
from (along with the other maps which contain the scraps you want to plot
on the PDF. Just remember you cannot mix maps and scraps in a map
definition, which is why I have the special map containing the survey
rather than including the survey in my master map directly.

Also remember in your thconfig file to specify which map is the master map
to generate the PDF from (in my thconfig file I declare: select
CarcavuezoPlan at Carcavuezo )

If you want to play with my complete project then you can check it out from
the UK cave registry svn here:
http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/MatienzoCaves/5Valleys

This particular project is part of a much larger one (the entire 5
valleys). You want to process the thconfig-carcavuezo project in the
folder 5Valleys\Therion Drawings\0081_Carcavuezo

Footleg



On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM Martin Sluka  wrote:

> Jenny,
>
> It looks the problem is you want to mix maps defined from scraps and maps
> defined from surveys. Try to draw „blind“ scraps only with stations and
> generate map from scraps.
>
> As I may say, I newer tried to define map as this:
>
> map from_surveys_only.map
>  survey1
>  survey 2
> endmap
>
> map from_scraps.map
>   scrap1
>   scrap2
> endmap
>
> map all.map
>   map_from_surveys_only
>   map_from_scraps
> endmap
>
> thconfig:
>
> select all.map
>
> m.s.
>
>
> > 19. 10. 2015 v 6:23, Jenny Black :
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in
> > the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out
> > how to plot both.
> >
> > In my thconfig file I have:
> > symbol-show point station
> > symbol-show group cave-centreline
> > symbol-show point station-name
> > debug station-names
> >
> > so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations
> > nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with
> > figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation.
> >
> > However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding:
> > input 107ee_ropeless.th2
> > input 107ee_china_new.th2
> > input 107ee_oldroute.th2
> > to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the
> > scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave.
> >
> > I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire
> > centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was
> > looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can
> > anyone help?
> >
> > In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and
> > reading in survex data as a 3d file.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jenny
> > ___
> > Therion mailing list
> > Therion at speleo.sk
> > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
>
> ___
> Therion mailing list
> Therion at speleo.sk
> http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
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2015-10-19 Thread Martin Sluka 
Jenny, 

It looks the problem is you want to mix maps defined from scraps and maps 
defined from surveys. Try to draw „blind“ scraps only with stations and 
generate map from scraps.

As I may say, I newer tried to define map as this:

map from_surveys_only.map
 survey1
 survey 2
endmap

map from_scraps.map
  scrap1
  scrap2
endmap

map all.map
  map_from_surveys_only
  map_from_scraps
endmap

thconfig:

select all.map

m.s. 


> 19. 10. 2015 v 6:23, Jenny Black :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I want to plot both the centreline for the entire cave and passages in
> the scraps I have drawn. I can do one at a time but can't figure out
> how to plot both.
> 
> In my thconfig file I have:
> symbol-show point station
> symbol-show group cave-centreline
> symbol-show point station-name
> debug station-names
> 
> so when I don't have any scraps, I get the centreline and stations
> nicely plotted for the entire cave, which is proving very helpful with
> figuring out where to break loops for my extended elevation.
> 
> However, as soon as I add in my scraps, which I've been doing by adding:
> input 107ee_ropeless.th2
> input 107ee_china_new.th2
> input 107ee_oldroute.th2
> to my .th file I can only see the centreline (and walls, etc) for the
> scraps of drawn and not the rest of the cave.
> 
> I'm sure it is possible to plot the scraps *and* the entire
> centreline. I'm sure I read it on a mailing list post when I was
> looking fro something else, but I can't rmanage to re-find it. Can
> anyone help?
> 
> In case it makes a difference, I am plotted an extended elevation and
> reading in survex data as a 3d file.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jenny
> ___
> Therion mailing list
> Therion at speleo.sk
> http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion