[tw] Re: Favicon as tag?
Hi Axelm Now Alex got the things cleared up I might have some idea. Confusing is the word faviconthis is a small image (usually about 16x16 px) used as shortcut icon in the browser. Because it's named favicon.ico it is processed this way. Now if we talk about small images for usage instead of tags there are some things to consider. I can imagine a bunch of tags displayed as a cloud when in edit mode under each tiddler. Instead of a written tag-name this might be a iconhowever when this is used, the click on the icon will put the a name in the tag ...instead of a visible icon. Because images are rather abstract you can only put a meaning to itbut not the use the image inside the tags. (imagine your tag is processed as the word photo1.jpg ...no meaningful tag for humans (tw does not care) ) Also consider icons are limitedyou can put in 10 icons and find that you need another tag for 11. In such case it's more logic to write a word. (creation of tag-words can be endless). However this depends on the use-case. For readers this is not the case I guess because they don't need to edit. For editors...do you want to limit them to a pre-created set of icons? The only thing I can think of is the use glyphs (html entities). Lets say the letter A or the letter B are glyphsthen a :) is also a glyph. Or ➋ ❀ ✂ ✈ however these are not going to help you around the globe because of character encoding. For instance ...(alt-shift-k makes an apple symbol here on the mac) but usually is shown as a square on other clients. So it all depends on how you are going to use it... Bauwe ☺ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7, Firefox 4.0 Somebody an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Ton [1]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#PhotoGalleryPlugin [2]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#Lisboa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi Paolo Julien, Searching for other solutions, I came across QuoteOfTheDayPlugin from TiddlyTools [1], [2] with the following syntax: QOTD tiddlername norandom noclick inline cookie:cookiename delay If tiddlername does not exist as a tiddler, it searches for a local directory name as can be read from the revisions: 2008.01.16 1.4.0 support using a local image file directory instead of tiddler name for getting list of items. If specified tiddler does not exist in the document, macro attempts to use tiddlername as a local directory name (using either absolute or relative path) and get list of all JPG/GIF/PNG files. And, indeed it does show the photos in the local directory (even, in my case of 1200+ photos). But, it shows all photos in the original size; there is no way to size the images. To me, a combination of both plugins should be ideal. No idea if this is difficult to achieve. Regards, Ton [1] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin [2] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPluginInfo On Apr 20, 12:25 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7, Firefox 4.0 Somebody an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Ton [1]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#PhotoGalleryPlugin [2]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#Lisboa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Favicon as tag?
I think this is a very interesting idea I can imagine a bunch of tags displayed as a cloud when in edit mode under each tiddler. Instead of a written tag-name this might be a icon The tags name could be arbitrary (ImageTag1, ImageTag2) and the meaning injected into a purely visual way. You could tag with a picture, and that picture could change. You could then tag that picture with text (or an other tag). Turning it upside down for a moment, imaging the tiddler is an image and then you wanted to use this as a tag. The use case is not hard to imagine. You are walking along with your phone, you see something that reminds you of something. You take a photo of it, then when you get home you add tiddler tagged with the image -- is a TaggyTaggin way , new here. Then you can build up the information tied to that photograph (or any data that the image might also capture such as GPS location). I got this idea from reading about how to memorise things. The story goes that a roman emperor used to remember speeches by waling a route and using objects he saw on his journey as visual cues for what he might say. A search for Ciscero memory method brings up many results, but method of loci [1] is the one i found most useful. As for implementation I think the generating of the tiddler from the image would be a lot easier. The tiddler could display an image in a tags div (or a mini sideshow if there were more than one) I thought that this would work best on an iPhone (i don't have one). You would take the picture and that act would be the same as creating a new tiddler. For GTD type maneuvres, I'd take a picture of the fish shop for example, then add some items; squid, mackerel etc. These tiddlers could be photos too - my shoping list could -- with the help of the ELS story saver plugin [2] -- be a story. My journey becomes a story Alex [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci [2] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#StorySaverPlugin Because images are rather abstract you can only put a meaning to itbut not the use the image inside the tags. (imagine your tag is processed as the word photo1.jpg ...no meaningful tag for humans (tw does not care) ) Also consider icons are limitedyou can put in 10 icons and find that you need another tag for 11. In such case it's more logic to write a word. (creation of tag-words can be endless). However this depends on the use-case. For readers this is not the case I guess because they don't need to edit. For editors...do you want to limit them to a pre-created set of icons? The only thing I can think of is the use glyphs (html entities). Lets say the letter A or the letter B are glyphsthen a :) is also a glyph. Or ➋ ❀ ✂ ✈ however these are not going to help you around the globe because of character encoding. For instance ...(alt-shift-k makes an apple symbol here on the mac) but usually is shown as a square on other clients. So it all depends on how you are going to use it... Bauwe ☺ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Yes, I should have been more precise. I should have said that it can't be done in a browser independent way. Eric's code is for IE and Firefox only and I prefer to avoid this kind of partial solutions that depend on browsers' manufacturers policies about security. Still, the tiddler list of filenames should be easy to implement. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 11:45, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo Julien, Searching for other solutions, I came across QuoteOfTheDayPlugin from TiddlyTools [1], [2] with the following syntax: QOTD tiddlername norandom noclick inline cookie:cookiename delay If tiddlername does not exist as a tiddler, it searches for a local directory name as can be read from the revisions: 2008.01.16 1.4.0 support using a local image file directory instead of tiddler name for getting list of items. If specified tiddler does not exist in the document, macro attempts to use tiddlername as a local directory name (using either absolute or relative path) and get list of all JPG/GIF/PNG files. And, indeed it does show the photos in the local directory (even, in my case of 1200+ photos). But, it shows all photos in the original size; there is no way to size the images. To me, a combination of both plugins should be ideal. No idea if this is difficult to achieve. Regards, Ton [1]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin [2]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPluginInfo On Apr 20, 12:25 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7, Firefox 4.0 Somebody an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Ton [1]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#PhotoGalleryPlugin [2]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#Lisboa
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi Paolo, If you can do that ... that would be nice. Regards, Ton On Apr 20, 3:22 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I should have been more precise. I should have said that it can't be done in a browser independent way. Eric's code is for IE and Firefox only and I prefer to avoid this kind of partial solutions that depend on browsers' manufacturers policies about security. Still, the tiddler list of filenames should be easy to implement. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 11:45, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo Julien, Searching for other solutions, I came across QuoteOfTheDayPlugin from TiddlyTools [1], [2] with the following syntax: QOTD tiddlername norandom noclick inline cookie:cookiename delay If tiddlername does not exist as a tiddler, it searches for a local directory name as can be read from the revisions: 2008.01.16 1.4.0 support using a local image file directory instead of tiddler name for getting list of items. If specified tiddler does not exist in the document, macro attempts to use tiddlername as a local directory name (using either absolute or relative path) and get list of all JPG/GIF/PNG files. And, indeed it does show the photos in the local directory (even, in my case of 1200+ photos). But, it shows all photos in the original size; there is no way to size the images. To me, a combination of both plugins should be ideal. No idea if this is difficult to achieve. Regards, Ton [1]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin [2]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPluginInfo On Apr 20, 12:25 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7,
Re: [tw] Favicon as tag?
Bauwe, I just found this [1]by chance: your pictowiki. Could this work inform the tags as icons idea? Alex [1]http://vimeo.com/11839755 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Saved Search?
Hello there, I am finding Simple Search[1] wonderful. I think it would be good if you could save the search into a tiddler from a button. Its beyond my TiddlyFu skills right now, and may stay there. I thought I'd share the wish. ALex [1] http://devpad.tiddlyspot.com/#SimpleSearchPlugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Saved Search?
I am finding Simple Search[1] wonderful. I think it would be good if you could save the search into a tiddler from a button. Its beyond my TiddlyFu skills right now, and may stay there. http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SearchOptionsPlugin http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SearchOptionsPluginInfo enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios -- Was this answer useful? If so, please help support TiddlyTools: TiddlyTools direct contributions: (paypal) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donate UnaMesa tax-deductible contributions: http://about.unamesa.org/Participate (paypal) TiddlyWiki consulting: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ELSDesignStudios http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
here some more... What is needed is a writer who can put himself or herself in the position of a naive adopter. Or some kind of collaboration between newbie and a TW master? Over on the TiddlyDev someone (whatever I think) has offered payment to encourage documentation. Perhaps documentation can develop this way? I hang about in a business school quite a bit. A question the types that live there would be asking questions like: Who would benefit from the type of documentation you seek? What is the purpose in attracting more users anyway? Where is the 'value'? Where is the funding coming from? Alex On 8 April 2011 18:40, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Dani Zobin wrote: Hey Alex, that's interesting. How that's? One of the prominent elements that I noticed during my short time in this list, is that people here seem to be JS/css developers, or half the way there, as this is what needed to twist the application (and it seems that everybody do it). Which is fine for me personally, but I did notice to myself that this is probably not an app for regular end users Unfortuknately, that seems to be true, but not necessary. What is needed is decent documentation, sufficient at least for getting potential adopters who are not developers, who are attracted by the potential practical applications of TiddlyWiki in their own work, over the hump of initial bafflement. Most of the available documentation, on the websites and in the PlugInInfo tiddlers that accompany many plugins, is as obscure as TiddlyWiki itself is to the potential non-developer adopter. E.g., some don't bother to mention dependencies on other readily available plugins. Sophisticated users, especially developers, are generally not good at writing documentation. What is needed is a writer who can put himself or herself in the position of a naive adopter. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
It's done. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 14:30, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo, If you can do that ... that would be nice. Regards, Ton On Apr 20, 3:22 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I should have been more precise. I should have said that it can't be done in a browser independent way. Eric's code is for IE and Firefox only and I prefer to avoid this kind of partial solutions that depend on browsers' manufacturers policies about security. Still, the tiddler list of filenames should be easy to implement. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 11:45, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo Julien, Searching for other solutions, I came across QuoteOfTheDayPlugin from TiddlyTools [1], [2] with the following syntax: QOTD tiddlername norandom noclick inline cookie:cookiename delay If tiddlername does not exist as a tiddler, it searches for a local directory name as can be read from the revisions: 2008.01.16 1.4.0 support using a local image file directory instead of tiddler name for getting list of items. If specified tiddler does not exist in the document, macro attempts to use tiddlername as a local directory name (using either absolute or relative path) and get list of all JPG/GIF/PNG files. And, indeed it does show the photos in the local directory (even, in my case of 1200+ photos). But, it shows all photos in the original size; there is no way to size the images. To me, a combination of both plugins should be ideal. No idea if this is difficult to achieve. Regards, Ton [1]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin [2]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPluginInfo On Apr 20, 12:25 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200
[tw] INTRO: Complexity a TiddlySpace
Hi Folks, Since my Simplicity [1] approach seem to be too easy, I thought, it would be time to intorduce it's twin :) Complexity [2]. As you know, twins share there genes, but are still different. This is also true for Complexity and Simplicity. They are similar, but not equal. The Differences [[zzConfig]]@complexity ... co.txtTheme = complexity; ... [[zzConfig]]@simplicity ... co.txtTheme = simplicity; ... Twins behave similar You can enter/activate simplicity's backend with: http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#txtTheme:complexity Actually, you could activate this mode since simplicity was introduced [5]. Just the parameter was a little bit different. Same with complexitiy's frontend. http://complexity.tiddlyspace.com/#txtTheme:simplicity The backends main menu contains selectTheme and selectPalette Roll your own == If you want to turn an existing default TiddlySpace into the twins, just include a) simplicity-template [3] into your space b) and __make sure__ that your StyleSheet is __not containing__ [[StyleSheetTiddlySpace]]Since it will mess up everything. c) If TiddlySpace would be more cooperative, there would be only a) and activating the default theme would be easy too. Known issue == ColorPalettes. All existing simplicity clones have a nice ColorPalette. The only problem is, that all of them look ugly if used with the backend. But .. You can use MPTWs [4] tiddlers tagged systemPalette. IMO they are all nice with the backend. have more fun! mario PS: Don't ask for complexities documentation. There is none. It would be simplicity then :) [1] http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com [2] http://complexity.tiddlyspace.com [3] http://simplicity-template.tiddlyspace.com [4] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#systemPalette [5] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/a3aec64fcdc6a92f -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
I wrote, I think TW has changed the way I think Now this is very interesting. Can you say more on this? Yes of course, its a pleasure to be asked, and valuable to me as well. OK, I am thinking about a couple of my recent posts on the icons and tagging [1] thread. It's the whole TW environment and interacting with it has some influence on the way I think. I combine the experience with other things too. I was talking about Action Learning in a phonecall today, and how a TW could be use in an Action Learning set, and how another community -- one interested in creativity in healthcare instance (which uses Action Learning) and -- might learn from the way in which the TW community works. I like cross pollinate things - it is the Manchester way - (the symbol of Manchester is the bee). I've learned a lot about answering and asking questions by being involved in the TW community too. I sometimes catch myself thinking about tiddlers and TW problems in the back of my mind as I walk (I'm interested in city wandering or Dérive [2]). The non-linear path though the city, and TW? Kind of the same? Maybe not, but I'm happy about not being rational all the time. Mistakes are good! I was inspired by reading The Acsent of Man [4]. Jacob Bronowski quotes Micheal Angelo, who, as well as being a sculptor dabbled in poetry. He wrote about the tool and mind making sculpture having the purpose of pushing the boundaries of what it is possible for one to think: the mind can't do it alone, the artifact is a by-product. I made a video [3] a while back about a tool I co-produced. (It was an attempt to build a thematic analysis tool using TW.) Unfortunately the link to the exact moment on the Acsent of Man on the youtube does not work - the video has been taken down, copyright no doubt. But i think it does get some of my ideas across about location, toolmaking and chance, if only in a rough form. I was introduced to praxis [5] when studying visual art. At the same time I got a computer with Tony Buzan software on it to help me with my learning difficulties. It made matters worse. After getting my own broadband I discovered TW via delicious when I read about tag clouds in the Guardian Technology section, way back when it was still printed. I then thought that TW could be a writing tool to develop ideas, and one that could be adapted. I hope to escape the tyranny of the tool - where the tool influenced the thought process. Of course TW does influence the thought process - like any tool or instrument of composition: a harmonica, an electric guitar a piano, any composition made using these instruments would sound like what has gone before. My theory is that at least if the tool is adaptable and living, then to possibility of creating something new exists. Its fine if the ambition to create something groundbreaking is not primary. Finally, I like the concept of osmosis and software (Osmosoft) - everything stacks up nicely from my perspective. I like linking things together. TW and the TW environment is a good place for this kind of thing. Alex [1] https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d5a4edfe82066a1f?hl=en [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9rive [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMiXbQ55rMc [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ascent_of_Man [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxis_%28process%29 [6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmosis On 8 April 2011 11:31, Dani Zobin danizo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote: I think TW has changed the way I think. I arrived at TW after using many tools - mindmaps and Compendium (an open university hypertext mapping project) Now this is very interesting. Can you say more on this? Which aspects of TiddlyWiki changed the way you think? And how? I myself seek this kind of change. Actually I came to this tool (which I haven't adapt yet in practice), because I was seeking exactly this features , to organize my thought. (Extensive tagging, fast search, wikilinks, and besides those - one bucket for all) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: INTRO: Simplicity a TiddlySpace
Hi passingby, Have a look at INTRO: Complexity a TiddlySpace [1] It may be interesting [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/53ab14d37dd16474 have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: INTRO: Simplicity a TiddlySpace
On Apr 19, 5:19 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote: I passed by the phone shop earlier this week and looked at your space on a demo iPad: looks great - it really fits with asthetic. Yes it does. I only saw it once and in view mode. Double tapping, zooms a little bit, which I liked very much. But I deffinitely have to improve next/ previous buttons. Thinking about Tobias idea above. The is something curious about touching the tiddlers and then kinda going into them .. or perhaps breaking the surface ... You mean edit mode? I couldn't test edit mode. @all iPad owners: It would be nice, to get some feedback, if edit mode breaks something. So I could fix it. have fun! -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
On Apr 19, 6:26 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that stories from people using TW would be interesting. I suspect that people have quite personal relationships with their TW, and they often contain private thoughts, so sharing can be a problem http://interview.tiddlyspace.com/ may be interesting about this. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly
On Apr 8, 12:24 pm, Dani Zobin danizo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Alex, that's interesting. How that's? One of the prominent elements that I noticed during my short time in this list, is that people here seem to be JS/css developers, or half the way there, as this is what needed to twist the application (and it seems that everybody do it). Which is fine for me personally, but I did notice to myself that this is probably not an app for regular end users I think most tw users, haven't been JS/CSS devs, when they found TW. There are several customized TWs out there, which work out of the box, for many usecases. For me it was MPTW MonkeyPirateTW. It worked well. But after a while I thought. OK. I want to have a search mechanism, that fits my needs. Found it and tried to copy/paste it into my TW. The problem was, I forgot systemConfig tag. So it didn't work. But searching this group I found a solution. The macro worked, but I had 2 search input boxes instead of one. In this case the macros documentation had the info, that I needed. I didn't find it immidiately but it was doable. I think, a very similar story can be told by many TW users. The whole learning process (see the above) had some very very frustrating moments. Sometimes I wanted to delete the whole stuff and go to bed. I didn't delete but went to bed. ... At the end everthing worked the way _I_ wanted it. I think, this is the thrill TW has. You can model it, that it _exactly_ fits your needs. There is no that doesn't work it's just, you have to find someone that helps you, to make it on your own. Or may be there is an existing solution, you don't know. I don't know, any other tool, that can be as massively changed, by novice users. After a while a novice user is no noob anymore. You learn a little CSS here a little JavaScript there, and there you go. I think TW makes it sometimes too easy to tweak allmost every aspect of the program. And since it is possible, it is done. __With many other tools, you just couldn't do it__, so you have to get used to the tools behaviour. Some people are satisfied with this situation. TW users aren't. That's why we are using it. That's why we are tweaking it. If CSS and JS is needed to do that, we learn it. That's why TW has some kind of a geeky touch. As Alex Hough said. TW changes the way you think. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi Paulo, Yes, It works and is an easy workaround. Thanks, Ton On Apr 20, 9:02 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: It's done. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 14:30, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo, If you can do that ... that would be nice. Regards, Ton On Apr 20, 3:22 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I should have been more precise. I should have said that it can't be done in a browser independent way. Eric's code is for IE and Firefox only and I prefer to avoid this kind of partial solutions that depend on browsers' manufacturers policies about security. Still, the tiddler list of filenames should be easy to implement. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 11:45, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo Julien, Searching for other solutions, I came across QuoteOfTheDayPlugin from TiddlyTools [1], [2] with the following syntax: QOTD tiddlername norandom noclick inline cookie:cookiename delay If tiddlername does not exist as a tiddler, it searches for a local directory name as can be read from the revisions: 2008.01.16 1.4.0 support using a local image file directory instead of tiddler name for getting list of items. If specified tiddler does not exist in the document, macro attempts to use tiddlername as a local directory name (using either absolute or relative path) and get list of all JPG/GIF/PNG files. And, indeed it does show the photos in the local directory (even, in my case of 1200+ photos). But, it shows all photos in the original size; there is no way to size the images. To me, a combination of both plugins should be ideal. No idea if this is difficult to achieve. Regards, Ton [1]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin [2]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPluginInfo On Apr 20, 12:25 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4'
Re: [tw] Re: Creating journals with full datetime stamp, rather than only a date
Thank you Mario, this worked 100% On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:39 AM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: [[SideBarOptions] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Cannot add cellpadding
Hi,
I'm creatng a simple form for managing books. Have tried adding
cellpadding as said in this post (http://groups.google.com/group/
tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/6878c611aa587f61). But couldn't make
it work. Can anyone help?
The borderless style is taken from Eric's StyleSheetShorcut.
{{borderless{
| ''Title:''|cellpadding:2em;edit book_title|
| ''Author:''|cellpadding:2em;edit book_author|
| ''ISBN:''|cellpadding:2em;edit isbn|
| ''Category:''|cellpadding:2em;edit book_category|
| ''Date of purchase:''|cellpadding:2em;edit book_purchased|
| ''Last read page:''|cellpadding:2em;edit book_lastpage|
}}}
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[tw] open multiple tiddlers macro
I wanted to add to the original thread on this topic http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_frm/thread/7875fdd460884a67?tvc=1 but could not figure out how to do so. I am going to create tiddlers with a tag name of 'status'. These will contain work status entries. Now I want to give easier access to these tiddlers by other users: A. Provide a date ordered descending list that a user can click on to open a particular status entry. B. A link to open all tiddlers with this tag. Limited by number and/ or dates. This is how I did B. I used Eric Shulman's example js to open tiddlers based on a field. Works. But, the js is inside a tiddler and I didn't want to do the class all tiddlers (it actually caused problems). And, I didn't want to have to open the tiddler with the js in it. So I used JsDoit macro to just put a link in the MainMenu. JsDoit invokes Eric's js. It works! Small gotcha is that you have to take out the script tags from the target tiddler containing the js. Questions: 1. How do I do A. I'm thinking ForEachTiddlerPlugin to create a pop up list? 2. In B, how to do order by date descending and how to limit to number of tiddlers or date criterion. 3. Is there a better way to do this? Any help would be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
