[tw] Re: [TW5] will the search get quicker?

[Linus Johnsson]

I've also noticed some performance issues while searching in my TW. It 
currently contains 1102 tiddlers and is about 3 Mb, with no embedded files. 
There is a huge difference between my desktop PC (Intel i7-3770K) and my 
2013 MacBook Pro (i5), so I gather that CPU power is crucial. I use Firefox 
exclusively. My overall feel is that TW does not scale that well, which is 
troubling.

As an aside, I think that the input lag while editing (sometimes several 
seconds) is far worse. It increases about linearly with the number of open 
tiddlers. Having the "Recent" tab open also makes it much worse. Since I 
use transclusion a lot, perhaps some kind of cascading effects may be to 
blame, although it does not seem to make much difference whether the 
tiddler I'm editing is transcluded or not.

Best regards,
Linus

Den måndag 23 februari 2015 kl. 23:36:58 UTC+1 skrev Jon:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> no, not at all. I'll look into my file and remove the embedded jpg images 
> and I'll see what that does.
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> On Monday, 23 February 2015 22:32:36 UTC, Richard Smith wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jon,
>>
>> I hope you understand that I'm not trying to 'defend' TW, but just to 
>> help you/us see if there is a problem of some kind that needs fixing. 
>>
>> The same file I mentioned has 727 svg images but only 5 jpg, so certain 
>> file types could be an issue, I suppose. 
>>
>> You can get a copy of the file I mentioned here 
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/Active_Calculus_v0.1.html 
>> which might help to determine whether it's your file or your set-up that's 
>> slowing things down.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Richard
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Special fields: "caption", "list", - any more?

[Eric Shulman]

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 8:41:13 PM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> There is list-before and list-after 
> I can't think of any others


Many of the "special" field names are not actually hard-coded *in* the 
core, but are simply part of the default shadow definitions for the layout 
and functionality.  I did an AdvancedSearch in Shadow tiddlers for "{{!!", 
and found the following field names in use.

$:/core/ui/EditTemplate/body:
   _canonical_uri
$:/core/macros/list:
   caption
$:/core/macros/export:
   extension (on tiddlers tagged $:/tags/Exporter)
$:/core/ui/AdvancedSearch/Filter:
   filter, description (on tiddlers tagged $:/tags/Filter)
tag tiddlers:
   color (used for background of tag pill)
$:/core/ui/EditTemplate/type:
   type, group (on tiddlers named with prefix "$:/language/Docs/Types/")
$:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Types
   type
$:/core/ui/TagTemplate
   icon, color
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title
   icon
$:/snippets/paletteswitcher
   name, description (on tiddlers tagged $:/tags/Palette)
$:/snippets/themeswitcher
   name, description, plugin-type (on tiddlers with plugin-type=theme)

Note: this list is NOT complete.  In addition to "{{!!fieldname}}" syntax, 
field names can also be found in filters (e.g., "fieldname[value]", 
"has[fieldname]", etc.) kl They can also be referenced from some widget 
syntax (e.g., <$view field="...">), so the search I did found only SOME of 
the fields used in the core but it's a start.

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] [TW5] How to export image files

[Jon]

Hi,

I want to remove some embedded .jpg images from my wiki but I don't want to 
delete the files. Dragging & dropping doesn't work and the export options 
aren't obvious.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jon.

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[tw] very very long encoded URLs

[sini-Kit]

I have a tiddler title "Сегодня в продаже" (Russian letters)  the link to 
this tiddler is 
http://novye-podarki.ru/heeg.html#%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8F%20%D0%B2%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5
  


the link to static  html of this tidler is 

http://novye-podarki.ru/%25D0%25A1%25D0%25B5%25D0%25B3%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B4%25D0%25BD%25D1%258F%2520%25D0%25B2%2520%25D0%25BF%25D1%2580%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B0%25D0%25B6%25D0%25B5.html
 

if the title of the tiddler contains several words, browser could not open 
it (too many simbols). how can I use "translit" so my link can look like  
http://novye-podarki.ru/Segodnia_v_prodaje.html ?


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Expandable task list with adjustable priorities to provide ordering

[Matthew Petty]

Hi Alberto,
I've got an example up and running at http://mjptest.tiddlyspot.com/, but 
the contents of the tiddlers is not revealed in the slider. What have I 
done wrong?
Thanks for your suggestion.
Matthew

On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 7:30:10 PM UTC+4, Alberto Molina wrote:
>
> Hi Matthew,
>
> Question 1: Is there a way to expand each row to view the contents of each 
>> tiddler listed? I would like to have a task tiddler with a title for a 
>> summary, and the contents as notes on progress etc. I'd like to click to 
>> expand one, then click again to fold.
>>
>
> yes, with a slider macro.
>  
>
>> (Side note: what if the contents of a task tiddler contained links to 
>> more task tiddlers? Recursion? )
>>
>
> depends on your slider macro.
>  
>
>> Question 2: Is there a better way to manage the multiple levels of 
>> priority? I want to be able shift my tasks easily to arrange them in the 
>> order of attack.
>> As always, grateful for help.
>>
>
> yes, with a selector.
>
> Try this:
>
> \define sliderTask(task)
> <$reveal state=<> type="nomatch" text="$task$">
> <$button set=<> setTo="$task$" 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">
> {{$:/core/images/right-arrow}} $task$
> 
> 
> <$reveal state=<> type="match" text="$task$">
> <$button set=<> setTo="" class="tc-btn-invisible">
> {{$:/core/images/down-arrow}} $task$
> 
>
> {{!!description}}
>
> 
> \end
>
> <$list 
> filter="[!title[TaskSkeleton]!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]!each[tasklist]]">
>
> !!! Tasklist: <$view field="tasklist"/>
> 
> 
> 
> Title
> Priority
> 
> <$list 
> filter="[tasklist{!!tasklist}!title[TaskSkeleton]!title[JournalSkeleton]!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]sort[p]]">
> 
> 
> <$checkbox tag="done">
> 
> 
> <$macrocall $name="sliderTask" task={{!!title}}/>
> 
> 
> <$select field="p" default="0">
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 4
> 5
> 6
> 7
> 8
> 9
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Alberto
>

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[tw] [TW5] Calculate Age

[Jed Carty]

It might require using Javascript, it has some convenient functions for that. 
You may be able to combine the calc macro tobias made with the now widget
to do it by giving the birth date and subtracting the year and months with the 
proper offset. 
There isn't any way using just the core.

Your best option is probably to write a javascript macro using the builtin date 
things. It seems like something that would be useful for calendar applications 
to track deadlines and stuff. If my computer hasn't died earlier I would try 
putting  something together, but I don't want to try coding on my tablet. 

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[tw] [TW5] Special fields: "caption", "list", - any more?

[Jed Carty]

There is list-before and list-after 
I can't think of any others 

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[tw] Re: InfiniTiddly (or, Rich Shumaker is evil) ;-)

[Andrew]

If you revisit the page where Rich links to my page you'll find that the object 
viewer pretty much does exactly the same thing that native external image 
viewer does with _canonical_uri field. The only reason I created my object 
viewer was so that I could display pdf files. Since my company converted all 
procedures to html, I don't think I'll need to use it. Let me be clear though, 
it is an iframe and it is sandboxed. It is not an exteral wiki includer. 
Someone still needs to create an Includeplugin.

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[tw] [TW5] Calculate Age

[James]

Hi All,

How can I automate the age field in the tiddler?

Let's me further clarify what I want to archive. I am creating a profile 
page, like profile in wiki, and I would like the age field calculate 
automatically (currently I update it manually).  The calculation should do 
using the date of birth compare with today's date.

Would it possible?

Thanks.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] exporting tiddlywiki file to multiple html files

[PMario]

There have been some discussions, about implementing a very basic zip 
algorithm (with no compression) to download multiple tiddlers. A 
compressing zip algorithm would be quite big. ...

-m

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] exporting tiddlywiki file to multiple html files

[PMario]

On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 12:30:17 AM UTC+1, Suzanne McHale wrote:
>
> Would it be possible to include that function in future editions of TW - 
> or would that be beyond TW's capabilities? It would be useful to have a 
> self-contained method of generating individual HTML files rather than have 
> to install Node.js.
>

As Jeremy pointed out, that's not really possible. 

See Jeremy's post.

> Just to be clear, TiddlyWiki doesn't support exporting multiple tiddlers 
> from the standalone HTML file configuration. The reason is that the browser 
> doesn't really support the idea of downloading multiple files (except by 
> packing them into a single ZIP file).
>

-m 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transclusion of field name inside a backticks ` code block

[PMario]

IMO the easiest way would be: 

Foo bar example code {{!!my_field_name}}

_no_ backticks anymore. the backtick is just a shortcut for the code 
element. 
or you can define a macro like this:

\define code(txt)
$txt$
\end

Foo bar <>

have fun!
mario


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] exporting tiddlywiki file to multiple html files

[Suzanne McHale]

Would it be possible to include that function in future editions of TW - or 
would that be beyond TW's capabilities? It would be useful to have a 
self-contained method of generating individual HTML files rather than have 
to install Node.js.

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 7:57:50 PM UTC+11, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
>  Hi Ray,
>
> that is the reason why PMario suggested to use the nodejs version of 
> TiddlyWiki. There are commands available, namely the renderTiddler[1] and 
> saveTiddler[2] commands to export tiddlers (based on a filter) into 
> individual files.
>
> /Andreas
>
> [1] http://tiddlywiki.com/#RenderTiddlersCommand
> [2] http://tiddlywiki.com/#SaveTiddlersCommand
>
> Am 23.02.2015 um 09:47 schrieb Raymond McDowell:
>  
> Having played about a bit with the offered suggestions, it looks like 
> TiddlyWiki cannot readily export a body of tiddlers into individual 
> discreet files. At least, not yet. Too bad. Something to keep looking for.
>
>
>  

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transclusion of field name inside a backticks ` code block

[PMario]

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 10:58:16 PM UTC+1, Richard Smith wrote:
>
> I'm not a developer but I think PMario's answer here 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/monspaced%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/PUqv7MrUOiU/4f81KUB3dX8J
>  
> may be relevant - 
>

Not relevant anymore. This is TWclassic code. 
-m

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[tw] [TW5] Special fields: "caption", "list", - any more?

[Mat]

Is there, perhaps on tw .com, some aggregated list with the "special" field 
names in core, such as *caption* and *list*? 

A search for "caption" does not give any specific result. And to search for 
"list" in this context, you must realize the search term is actually 
listfield. 

...and tiddler ListFiled is tagged "Fields" but, this tag is used only for 
that tiddler.

Thank you.

<:-)

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[tw] Bittorrent Sync

[Richard Smith]

I haven't tried this myself yet but it seems to offer an interesting 
alternative to other file-hosting services for those wanting to move their 
files around from machine to machine or share them with other 
people: 
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/02/how-to-ditch-dropbox-and-sync-files-with-bittorrent-sync/

The principle limitation in sharing files with others is that one of your 
machines needs to be actually on but it also seems possible to set this up 
on a NAS, for example.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] will the search get quicker?

[Jon]

Hi Richard,

no, not at all. I'll look into my file and remove the embedded jpg images 
and I'll see what that does.

Regards
Jon

On Monday, 23 February 2015 22:32:36 UTC, Richard Smith wrote:
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> I hope you understand that I'm not trying to 'defend' TW, but just to help 
> you/us see if there is a problem of some kind that needs fixing. 
>
> The same file I mentioned has 727 svg images but only 5 jpg, so certain 
> file types could be an issue, I suppose. 
>
> You can get a copy of the file I mentioned here 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/Active_Calculus_v0.1.html 
> which might help to determine whether it's your file or your set-up that's 
> slowing things down.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] will the search get quicker?

[Richard Smith]

Hi Jon,

I hope you understand that I'm not trying to 'defend' TW, but just to help 
you/us see if there is a problem of some kind that needs fixing. 

The same file I mentioned has 727 svg images but only 5 jpg, so certain 
file types could be an issue, I suppose. 

You can get a copy of the file I mentioned 
here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/Active_Calculus_v0.1.html 
which might help to determine whether it's your file or your set-up that's 
slowing things down.

Regards,
Richard

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[tw] Re: InfiniTiddly (or, Rich Shumaker is evil) ;-)

[David Gifford]

Bump. 

Hi guys, I always forget not to post on weekends. I never get any feedback 
from anyone when I do. Or maybe people were uncomfortable and didn't 
understand that my comments about Rich were a good-natured joke, given that 
his object frame inspired me to use most of my Saturday playing with it.

Any feedback on my use of Rich's object frame in 
http://giffmex.org/notes/infinitiddly.html or help you can give me on the 
hurdles I still face (see original post) would be great.

Dave

On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 7:25:24 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Rich Shumaker is evil! ;-)
>
> Thanks to this thread 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/AatW5wFls-w, I 
> discovered Rich Shumaker's "TW inside a TW" 
> http://t5a.tiddlyspot.com/#_canonical_uri%20Example. That got me thinking 
> again about TW as an infinitely expandable content management system. So 
> thanks to Rich I spent a day tinkering instead of getting my own work done. 
> So he is only evil in that he distracted me from my work for the day. But 
> actually I am grateful to him for doing that! Thanks Rich!
>
> I created a central hub file called InfiniTiddly, then I made a number of 
> adjustments to the Psalms TiddlyWiki I wrote about earlier today and 
> created a portal to it in InfiniTiddly using Rich's ObjectFrame.
>
> http://giffmex.org/notes/infinitiddly.html
>
> The Psalms tiddler found there is actually a portal to access the Psalms 
> TiddlyWiki. I could fill Infinitiddly with objectframes to many other 
> TiddlyWiki files in this way, and have an fairly infinite library of 
> tiddlers accessible in one TW, and a user might not necessarily realize 
> that that is what is happening. Filesize becomes irrelevant.
>
> I am happy with the results so far, but there are some wrinkles I would 
> like to see ironed out before I start using this widescale:
>
> On the bright side:
>
> 1. Viewing: I hid the sidebar in the Psalms TW so that what comes into 
> view in the Infinitiddly is the default tiddler, not the sidebar. The 
> Psalms file has a white background now so that it does not contrast with 
> the tiddler contents.
> 2. Printing: When printing from Infinitiddly, only the tiddler contents 
> shows, not the icons or either of the frames.
> 3. At the top of the viewtemplate in the Psalms file, I have a home 
> button, a download/save button, a link to a special search tiddler, the 
> chevrons to reveal the sidebar, and more/edit/close. They are off to the 
> left so they won't interfere with the outer InfiniTiddly more/edit/close, 
> and they are separated by color to make it easier for the eye to scan and 
> memorize them.
>
> On the medium side: There are probably more icons there than most people 
> will want to stomach: 3 icons for the frame tiddler in Infinitiddly, and 
> seven icons in the tiddlers at the Psalms file. In particular it would take 
> some getting used to, to avoid closing the outer frame tiddler when what 
> you want to do is close the inner Psalms tiddler. But I am content with 
> this for my own use, and I think it looks pretty clean. You be the judge.
>
> Problematic and beyond my limits: 
>
> 1. While on my laptop (Firefox in Windows) long tiddlers have scrollbars, 
> on my iPad they do not, and there is no way to get to longer content.
> 2. When printing longer tiddlers from Infinitiddly, the Psalms content 
> below the bottom of the Infinitiddly portal tiddler is cut off.
> 3. There is no way to permalink a tiddler from the Psalms file while 
> viewing from the Infinitiddly file. The Infinitiddly file is what stays in 
> the browser address bar.
> 4. The process of viewing the content from the Psalms tiddlywiki is pretty 
> slow on the iPad.
>
> Would love your suggestions: Are there ways to fix these four problems? 
> Are there other problems with these files, blind spots I have not 
> considered? Are there easier and more appropriate ways to do the same thing 
> (I had to tinker with several core shadow tiddlers, and the CSS is probably 
> a mess).
>
> Blessings,
>
> Dave
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Transclusion of field name inside a backticks ` code block

[Richard Smith]

Hi Nicola,

I'm not a developer but I think PMario's answer 
here 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/monspaced%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/PUqv7MrUOiU/4f81KUB3dX8J
 
may be relevant - I think you need to define your own code style so that 
wikitext doesn't get suppressed, as it is by the standard mechanism. To use 
references as part of hyperlinks I think you need to use the <$link> macro 
instead of wikitext.

Regards,
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[tw] Re: [TW5] will the search get quicker?

[Jon]

Hi Richard,

My 8MB file only has ~580 tiddlers which is a tiny fraction of your file 
which sounds like it's still very responsive.

I'm only doing regular searches and I'm running Windows 7/Firefox 

Mine must be bloated with embedded image files so I'll take these out and 
hopefully that will speed things up.

Thanks,
Jon

On Monday, 23 February 2015 21:43:43 UTC, RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> I know some issues with the search have been discussed in the past, 
> specifically with regards to limiting the maximum number of results and 
> waiting until there's a minimal string before searching. Having said that, 
> I have personally found the search to be quite quick.
>
> I just checked and my biggest file is ~17MB with ~9000 tiddlers and the 
> search is still very quick (Firefox under OSX yosemite, TW5.1.7 running as 
> a single file) - typing just the letter 'a', for example, returns 9090 
> matches in less than a second. There's a slight lag on entering text in the 
> search box itself but it's not noticeable enough to be annoying. 
>
> Are the searches you're doing just plain-text matching or something more 
> exotic?
> What is the set-up that you're using? (browser/OS/standalone or node etc.)
> How many tiddlers do your files have in them?
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] will the search get quicker?

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Hi Jon,

I know some issues with the search have been discussed in the past, 
specifically with regards to limiting the maximum number of results and 
waiting until there's a minimal string before searching. Having said that, 
I have personally found the search to be quite quick.

I just checked and my biggest file is ~17MB with ~9000 tiddlers and the 
search is still very quick (Firefox under OSX yosemite, TW5.1.7 running as 
a single file) - typing just the letter 'a', for example, returns 9090 
matches in less than a second. There's a slight lag on entering text in the 
search box itself but it's not noticeable enough to be annoying. 

Are the searches you're doing just plain-text matching or something more 
exotic?
What is the set-up that you're using? (browser/OS/standalone or node etc.)
How many tiddlers do your files have in them?

Regards,
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[tw] [TW5] will the search get quicker?

[Jon]

Hi,

I use Microsoft OneNote at work and one thing that strikes me is how quick 
the search facility as the results appear instantly as you type.

I know TW is a very different kettle of fish but is the search facility 
likely to become quicker in future releases or is the current speed as good 
as it gets?

I have two wikis, one of 4MB and another which is 8MB and the lag when 
typing in the search box is far worse in the bigger file and quite annoying 
and will no doubt get worse as the file size increases.

Thanks, Jon.

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[tw] [TW5] Transclusion of field name inside a backticks ` code block

[Nicola Worthington]

I have a tiddler with a field defined in it. I am able to insert the value 
of that field in to the output of the tiddler using the {{!!my_field_name}} 
transclusion syntax. All well and good.

   Foo bar {{!!my_field_name}}

The above example works fine.

However, if I want to change the style/formatting and happen to use the 
{{!!my_field_name}} syntax inside of a backtick code block as shows below, 
the transclusion doesn't happen:

   Foo bar `example code {{!!my_field_name}}`

How can I use tiddler fields inside a `backtick code block`, or within 
maybe even within a [[hyperlink syntax]] too?

Thanks,
Nicola

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] exporting tiddlywiki file to multiple html files

[Raymond McDowell]

Thanks everyone. This gives me what I wanted. Not something I'll use on a 
daily basis because if I am correct, the node.js version does not work on 
Android, That ability is the reason I migrated to TiddlyWiki. With an 
encrypted TiddlyWiki, coupled with Andwiki on my Androids, I can use Google 
Drive (the only cloud service not blocked at my firm) and Drive Autosync on 
all my Androids to keep everything easily synced and available all around 
without jumping through any hoops.  

Now that I know I can keep an archived copy of my "notes" in plain text 
format I can rest a little easier and will continue to work at learning how 
to optimize  my tiddlywiki experience.

For the record, over the past several years I have used ConnectedText (No 
android version), ResophNotes (syncing is unstable), Evernote (linking is 
awkward), SimpleNote (no linking at all), TreePad (linking is unwieldy and 
the android app requires too many steps to sync), Wiki On a Stick (obsolete 
and no android version), Emacs (an even steeper learning curve than 
TiddlyWiki) and my old reliable text editor NoteTab (wiki-linking works 
great but I have found no Android text editor that allows for wiki links).  
I've played with several other apps, but those are the ones I still keep an 
eye on just in case lightning strikes and any of them suddenly break out 
with something really special. I had been doing that with TiddlyWiki for 
years as well, until I discovered I could now import my thousand or so 
plain text files into TW5.

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 7:13:48 PM UTC+8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Raymond
>
> > Having played about a bit with the offered suggestions, it looks like 
> TiddlyWiki cannot readily export a body of tiddlers into individual 
> discreet files. At least, not yet. Too bad. Something to keep looking for.
>
> Just to be clear, TiddlyWiki doesn't support exporting multiple tiddlers 
> from the standalone HTML file configuration. The reason is that the browser 
> doesn't really support the idea of downloading multiple files (except by 
> packing them into a single ZIP file).
>
> But you can easily export tiddlers as discrete individual files using the 
> Node.js configuration (since Node.js supports ordinary file APIs). In fact, 
> under Node.js, individual tiddlers are stored independently in separate 
> files anyway. This is done for the reason you state in your original post: 
> it provides future proofing by ensuring that your data is accessible at all 
> times.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Andreas Hahn  > wrote:
>
>>  Hi Ray,
>>
>> that is the reason why PMario suggested to use the nodejs version of 
>> TiddlyWiki. There are commands available, namely the renderTiddler[1] and 
>> saveTiddler[2] commands to export tiddlers (based on a filter) into 
>> individual files.
>>
>> /Andreas
>>
>> [1] http://tiddlywiki.com/#RenderTiddlersCommand
>> [2] http://tiddlywiki.com/#SaveTiddlersCommand
>>
>> Am 23.02.2015 um 09:47 schrieb Raymond McDowell:
>>  
>> Having played about a bit with the offered suggestions, it looks like 
>> TiddlyWiki cannot readily export a body of tiddlers into individual 
>> discreet files. At least, not yet. Too bad. Something to keep looking for.
>>
>>
>> Monday, February 23, 2015 at 8:18:42 AM UTC+8, Raymond McDowell wrote: 
>>>
>>> Consider me a novice.  
>>>
>>> After years of reluctance, I started using TiddlyWiki. I am now invested 
>>> and my TW5 is my pkm. I use it for writing, tasks, projects, catalogs, 
>>> brainstorming and journals. All inter-connected in a many to many structure 
>>> and neatly accessible via TW's tags, sophisticated search, outlined TOCs 
>>> and Checkboxed lists. Having said that, one of the deal breakers of the 
>>> past (but which I ignored because TW5 can now import plain text files and 
>>> since I can use TW5 across all my 5 Windows devices and 7 Android devices) 
>>> is the ability to export the entire body of my tiddlywiki as individual 
>>> plain text or html files. 
>>>
>>> This is important because I hate marrying any tool that I cannot divorce 
>>> should it cease development, become proprietary, or suddenly blow up in my 
>>> face.  Backups are cool, but I would like to have an option whereby I can 
>>> export, fiddle with, re-import or use a a plain-text wiki  if no other 
>>> options are available.
>>>
>>> Is this possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>  
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[tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki with simultaneous multi-user updates on own server

[PMario]

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 1:41:43 PM UTC+1, Jose Araujo wrote:
>
>
> So from what I understand is that there is currently no solution for this 
> that wouldnt require quite a lot of work right? :)
>

The bits an pieces are there. But there is no black box, that you just need 
to switch on. 

-m 

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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[PMario]

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 10:01:21 AM UTC+1, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Thanks Andreas - So Mario is right with his hint that I need to convert to 
> base 64.
>

Ouch! Any doubt about this? :))
-m 

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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[PMario]

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 12:15:14 PM UTC+1, Andreas Hahn wrote:
>
>  Wouldn't it be possible to handle all unkown MIME types as binary data ? 
>

I think, this would be a good idea, if users wouldn't use it in the wrong 
way, which will cause support on our side. 
 

> That would ensure that people could for example embed word or excel files 
> or a bunch of other file types (at the expense of some txt/ascii based 
> formats). I am not sure if that is a good idea, 
>

While embedding unknown data as base64 is ok. Including an uncompressed 
word or excel file into a html document imo is an incredibly bad idea. So I 
vote for a  zip, gzip only approach. 

-mario

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[tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki with simultaneous multi-user updates on own server

[Jose Araujo]

So from what I understand is that there is currently no solution for this 
that wouldnt require quite a lot of work right? :)

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[tw] Re: Using TiddlyWiki with simultaneous multi-user updates on own server

[Jose Araujo]

Hi Mario,

thank you for the reply and sorry for being late on mine. 

To answer your questions, I would like it to be connected to the internet, 
it is a corporate environment but I am not the IT admin, even though I have 
permission to set up things. I have the possibility to both have a virtual 
server or bare metal and the OS is currently windows, but we could move to 
Unix.

Thanks again for the help!

On Friday, 20 February 2015 15:20:17 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Jose,
>
> Should your server be connected to the internet? Is it a corporate 
> environment? Are you the IT admin?
>
> What type of server do you have?
>  - Virtual server
>  - bare metal
>
> Which OS?
>
> -mario
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Experimental Help Panel

[Mat]

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 12:34:18 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Interestingly, there is at least one JS library for doing screen capture:
>
> https://mgechev.github.io/jscapture/
>
> So, one could imagine integrating the functionality into TW5
>


Very interesting! An underlying problem with documentation is that it is 
difficult to "speak culture" as opposed to speak a language. What I mean 
is, the optimal way for learning can differ extremely much between two 
individuals even if they speak the same language. If we had a way to 
produce "documentation" very easily, individuals could document in a way 
that appeals to their own peer groups.

...not to mention show off various things and also ask questions in video 
form.

Flooding youtube with clips on TW wouldn't be too bad from a marketing 
point either ;-)

Unfortunately, the JS screen capturing library you refer to states: 
"JSCapture won't work in Chrome 37+ due to removal of the experimental 
desktop sharing API." (link 
)

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Experimental Help Panel

[Jeremy Ruston]

Interestingly, there is at least one JS library for doing screen capture:

https://mgechev.github.io/jscapture/

So, one could imagine integrating the functionality into TW5

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Mat  wrote:

> Most of these offer some kind of "freemium" demo version that has
>> recording time limits, watermarks, and options for output formats, effects,
>> etc. that you can remove or unlock by paying for the full version.  That
>> should be enough for you to try them out to see if they fit your needs.
>>
>
> Thanks Eric. Was kinda hoping for the "TW of screenrecording".. dynamic,
> free(!), etc. If anyone has any "this is THE one" recommendation, please
> don't hesistate to mention it. With the coming help feature in 5.1.8 I
> think we have a chance to really make a difference in video
> documentation/help (not that clips would necessarily qualify to be on tw
> .com but anyway).
>
> <:-)
>
>
>
>


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Re: [tw] Re: Floating pull out side menu?

[Mat]

Sounds like the upcoming (5.1.8) Help feature would be a good basis for 
what you're looking for, no?)

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Experimental Help Panel

[Mat]

>
> Most of these offer some kind of "freemium" demo version that has 
> recording time limits, watermarks, and options for output formats, effects, 
> etc. that you can remove or unlock by paying for the full version.  That 
> should be enough for you to try them out to see if they fit your needs.
>

Thanks Eric. Was kinda hoping for the "TW of screenrecording".. dynamic, 
free(!), etc. If anyone has any "this is THE one" recommendation, please 
don't hesistate to mention it. With the coming help feature in 5.1.8 I 
think we have a chance to really make a difference in video 
documentation/help (not that clips would necessarily qualify to be on tw 
.com but anyway).

<:-)



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Cluster story view

[Mat]

This is an attempt to illustrate the two (or more) ideas combined, i.e 
Tobias categories and my train-of-thought idea (with a new name! see 
below.) Also don't miss out on the radically different idea that I bring up 
towards the end.

@Tobias - or anyone for that matter - please tell what you'd like to change.


Ok, so the popup here supposedly appears from hovering over left gutter.

By default (as in image) you see the *Tiddler Story* (aha, that's a better 
term than "train-of-thought"). Analogous to the sidebar tab "Recent", it 
shows the history including only tiddlers relevant to the current one, 
including: links opened from withing the current, children created (i.e 
tagged with current), any tiddler appearing the in the Categories (see 
below). The Tiddler Story updates continuously just like the sidebar Recent 
list. The puprose is as outlined in my OP here, i.e to see how an "area of 
concern" (a project/concept/abunchofparallelideas/...) is evolving allowing 
for backtracking, and for easy access to tiddlers. 

Further, the idea is to capture this story for each tiddler! Obviously, 
related tiddlers will have similar stories. 

Note this is a change from the OP where I kind of thought this had 
something to do with the story view.

The clock is the icon for this Tiddler Story. Just below it are *Saved 
Tiddler Stories*, essentially snapshots of the Tiddler Story. Probably 
should have some "open all" command in it.

Then follows user defined categories such as, as per Tobias example; 
"inspection", "insurance", "maintenance" etc. 

Last, there's a "Add new category" plus to easily create new categories or, 
I guess, add an existing one that doesn't appear already. Behaves similar 
to how adding tags does, I guess.

Titles are added to a Category from the Tiddler Recent list (and perhaps 
also from the other tiddler lists?) in "some way". I have some ideas.

I'm not sure how to manually add "external titles" to the lists - say I e.g 
open a, so far, unassociated tiddler directly from the normal sidebar and I 
want it included. Any suggestions?


A spontaneous reflection is if these categories are not more important than 
tags? There seem to be more thought creating them as they cross reference 
multiple things (right?). The issue of tags vs categories 

 
has come up before, of course. And we have our discussions on "tag types" 
of course.


Another idea for the Tiddler Story, would be to show it instead as a tab in 
the sidebar! I.e the Tiddler Story for the current tiddler in focus. Maybe 
this is even *better* as it could be more permanently displayed and even 
easier access? I have found the Recent list to be one of the most useful 
sidebar tabs but this would probably be even more useful. It would probably 
make the TW seem more focussed on the topic at hand because, contrary to 
e.g tab Recent, you're not distracted from irrelevant tiddlers.

Just maybe this would go for Categories too? A permanent bar somewhere 
(topmenu? with dropdown lists?) dynamically showing the categories of the 
tiddler in focus...? The categories there would be next to permanent for 
the area of concern. Envisioning it, I think it would really make the TW 
feel dedicated to the subject at hand.

Thoughts?


<:-)

P.S ...it's become pretty clear we're not talking about a story view as I 
thought in my OP.

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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Andreas

Wouldn't it be possible to handle all unkown MIME types as binary data ?
> That would ensure that people could for example embed word or excel files
> or a bunch of other file types (at the expense of some txt/ascii based
> formats). I am not sure if that is a good idea, or if that is possible to
> implement since most other systems seem to access contentTypeInfo as
> hashmap.
>

Interesting. I think you're right, defaulting to base64 format might well
be better. As you say, the downside would only be that unknown text formats
would be unnecessarily base64 encoded. I've made a ticket:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1521

I've also made a ticket for adding a download link for binary tiddlers:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1522

Best wishes

Jeremy



>
> /Andreas
>
> Am 23.02.2015 um 11:58 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> Hi Stephan
>
>  Just to be clear, TW5 does indeed support binary tiddlers (images being
> a good example). You can drag a ZIP file into TW and the right thing
> happens. The limitation at the moment is that there's no built-in way to
> download the file afterwards. You can use something like the following code
> to create a download link for a binary tiddler:
>
>  \define download-inner(title)
> >
> download="download">Download "$title$"
> \end
>
>  \define download(title)
> <$set name="type" value={{$title$!!type}}>
> <$set name="text" value={{$title$!!text}}>
> <>
> 
> 
> \end
>
>  <>
>
>  However, the .ZIP file extension needs to be registered in boot.js
> before this will work:
>
>   $tw.utils.registerFileType("application/zip","base64",".zip");
>
>  I've commited ZIP support here:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a2493f80a973b24ad3d3affda945c437b98c2d2e
>
>  Best wishes
>
>  Jeremy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Stephan Hradek 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am Montag, 23. Februar 2015 10:06:00 UTC+1 schrieb Andreas Hahn:
>>>
>>>  Yes, it is unfortunately it is the only way to do it, without editing
>>> core source code.
>>>
>>> I btw use powershell with a function I found online[1], that makes it
>>> kinda easy to do (since it even copies it to the clipboard).
>>>
>>
>> I think I have something similar for jEdit.
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Re: [tw] Re: Internal Image External Link

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi ET

>  I'm rather confused about the WikiText syntax for creating an external
link with an internal image.

http://tiddlywiki.com"; target="_blank">[img[Motovun Jack.jpg]]

> Right, in that case I'll have to painstakingly type in the longhand form
for every image link (in my case) and also must include the target='_blank'
bit otherwise opening in the same tab.

Not at all. You can create a custom macro that makes it easy to re-use the
image link code. For example

\define imageLink(url,image)
[img[$image$]]
\end

Then each time you need an image link:

>

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:50 AM, ET  wrote:

> Right, in that case I'll have to painstakingly type in the longhand form
> for every image link (in my case) and also must include the target='_blank'
> bit otherwise opening in the same tab.
>
>
> On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 9:38:47 AM UTC+13, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> I am pretty certain that the only other way to have external links
>> without using html tags is to just type in the complete url without any
>> formatting. Just typing http://tiddlywiki.com will be a link, but that
>> isn't very useful.
>>
>> Making a macro or widget like the link widget but that works for external
>> links probably wouldn't be very difficult, but it would just be a wrapper
>> on the a tag anyway, so I am not sure how useful it would be.
>>
>> Do you think it would make a significant difference to be able to type
>> something like
>>
>> <$external-link to='http://tiddlywiki.com'>Some text or images
>>> here
>>>
>>
>> instead of
>>
>> Some text or images
>>> here
>>
>> ?
>>
>> That is a sincere question, I have gotten used to just using the html and
>> I am not sure if it would be helpful for someone to use one over the other.
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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[Andreas Hahn]

Hi Jeremy,

thanks for the change in boot.js. I have a question though:

Wouldn't it be possible to handle all unkown MIME types as binary data ?
That would ensure that people could for example embed word or excel 
files or a bunch of other file types (at the expense of some txt/ascii 
based formats). I am not sure if that is a good idea, or if that is 
possible to implement since most other systems seem to access 
contentTypeInfo as hashmap.


/Andreas

Am 23.02.2015 um 11:58 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

Hi Stephan

Just to be clear, TW5 does indeed support binary tiddlers (images 
being a good example). You can drag a ZIP file into TW and the right 
thing happens. The limitation at the moment is that there's no 
built-in way to download the file afterwards. You can use something 
like the following code to create a download link for a binary tiddler:


\define download-inner(title)
> 
download="download">Download "$title$"

\end

\define download(title)
<$set name="type" value={{$title$!!type}}>
<$set name="text" value={{$title$!!text}}>
<>


\end

<>

However, the .ZIP file extension needs to be registered in boot.js 
before this will work:


$tw.utils.registerFileType("application/zip","base64",".zip");

I've commited ZIP support here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a2493f80a973b24ad3d3affda945c437b98c2d2e

Best wishes

Jeremy.






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mailto:stephan.hra...@gmail.com>> wrote:




Am Montag, 23. Februar 2015 10:06:00 UTC+1 schrieb Andreas Hahn:

Yes, it is unfortunately it is the only way to do it, without
editing core source code.

I btw use powershell with a function I found online[1], that
makes it kinda easy to do (since it even copies it to the
clipboard).


I think I have something similar for jEdit.
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] exporting tiddlywiki file to multiple html files

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Raymond

> Having played about a bit with the offered suggestions, it looks like
TiddlyWiki cannot readily export a body of tiddlers into individual
discreet files. At least, not yet. Too bad. Something to keep looking for.

Just to be clear, TiddlyWiki doesn't support exporting multiple tiddlers
from the standalone HTML file configuration. The reason is that the browser
doesn't really support the idea of downloading multiple files (except by
packing them into a single ZIP file).

But you can easily export tiddlers as discrete individual files using the
Node.js configuration (since Node.js supports ordinary file APIs). In fact,
under Node.js, individual tiddlers are stored independently in separate
files anyway. This is done for the reason you state in your original post:
it provides future proofing by ensuring that your data is accessible at all
times.

Best wishes

Jeremy.







On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Andreas Hahn 
wrote:

>  Hi Ray,
>
> that is the reason why PMario suggested to use the nodejs version of
> TiddlyWiki. There are commands available, namely the renderTiddler[1] and
> saveTiddler[2] commands to export tiddlers (based on a filter) into
> individual files.
>
> /Andreas
>
> [1] http://tiddlywiki.com/#RenderTiddlersCommand
> [2] http://tiddlywiki.com/#SaveTiddlersCommand
>
> Am 23.02.2015 um 09:47 schrieb Raymond McDowell:
>
> Having played about a bit with the offered suggestions, it looks like
> TiddlyWiki cannot readily export a body of tiddlers into individual
> discreet files. At least, not yet. Too bad. Something to keep looking for.
>
>
> Monday, February 23, 2015 at 8:18:42 AM UTC+8, Raymond McDowell wrote:
>>
>> Consider me a novice.
>>
>> After years of reluctance, I started using TiddlyWiki. I am now invested
>> and my TW5 is my pkm. I use it for writing, tasks, projects, catalogs,
>> brainstorming and journals. All inter-connected in a many to many structure
>> and neatly accessible via TW's tags, sophisticated search, outlined TOCs
>> and Checkboxed lists. Having said that, one of the deal breakers of the
>> past (but which I ignored because TW5 can now import plain text files and
>> since I can use TW5 across all my 5 Windows devices and 7 Android devices)
>> is the ability to export the entire body of my tiddlywiki as individual
>> plain text or html files.
>>
>> This is important because I hate marrying any tool that I cannot divorce
>> should it cease development, become proprietary, or suddenly blow up in my
>> face.  Backups are cool, but I would like to have an option whereby I can
>> export, fiddle with, re-import or use a a plain-text wiki  if no other
>> options are available.
>>
>> Is this possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>>
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Re: [tw] [TW5] @Jeremy - Some feedback on "the experimental system tiddler browser"

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

Regarding the tree problem, forgive my naiveté but:
>


>
> As the tree is traversed, the entry (e.g "$:/core") could be stored in
> memory. Note that a tiddlerlink is listed before it's use as a prefix, e.g
> "$:/core" is listed before "$:/core*/*". So, for as the traversing is
> back at a that level (!) in the tree, where the next entry comes (i.e the
> ".../"), it is compared to the one in memory. If it is a double... then it
> is just skipped over. And the memory is emptied regardless.
>

Conceptually, that sounds good, the problem is that it's not clear how that
"memory" would be implemented. As I've said, I think this is a complex
problem, not an impossible one. I'd encourage others to pick up the
existing Explorer code and explore it.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



>
> Care shoud be taken to only do the comparison when the title ends with the
> "/" so that e.g "$:/theme" is not interpreted as a prefix to "$:/themes"
>
> Gobbledegook?
>
>
> BTW, that screenshot is in deed funny! :-D
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Stephan

Just to be clear, TW5 does indeed support binary tiddlers (images being a
good example). You can drag a ZIP file into TW and the right thing happens.
The limitation at the moment is that there's no built-in way to download
the file afterwards. You can use something like the following code to
create a download link for a binary tiddler:

\define download-inner(title)
>
download="download">Download "$title$"
\end

\define download(title)
<$set name="type" value={{$title$!!type}}>
<$set name="text" value={{$title$!!text}}>
<>


\end

<>

However, the .ZIP file extension needs to be registered in boot.js before
this will work:

$tw.utils.registerFileType("application/zip","base64",".zip");

I've commited ZIP support here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a2493f80a973b24ad3d3affda945c437b98c2d2e

Best wishes

Jeremy.






On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Stephan Hradek 
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>
>
> Am Montag, 23. Februar 2015 10:06:00 UTC+1 schrieb Andreas Hahn:
>>
>>  Yes, it is unfortunately it is the only way to do it, without editing
>> core source code.
>>
>> I btw use powershell with a function I found online[1], that makes it
>> kinda easy to do (since it even copies it to the clipboard).
>>
>
> I think I have something similar for jEdit.
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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

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Am Montag, 23. Februar 2015 10:06:00 UTC+1 schrieb Andreas Hahn:
>
>  Yes, it is unfortunately it is the only way to do it, without editing 
> core source code.
>
> I btw use powershell with a function I found online[1], that makes it 
> kinda easy to do (since it even copies it to the clipboard).
>

I think I have something similar for jEdit. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[Andreas Hahn]

Yes, it is unfortunately it is the only way to do it, without editing 
core source code.


I btw use powershell with a function I found online[1], that makes it 
kinda easy to do (since it even copies it to the clipboard).


/Andreas

[1] 
https://mnaoumov.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/how-to-reach-unreachable-or-copy-files-to-rdp/


Am 23.02.2015 um 10:01 schrieb Stephan Hradek:
Thanks Andreas - So Mario is right with his hint that I need to 
convert to base 64.

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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

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Thanks Andreas - So Mario is right with his hint that I need to convert to 
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] exporting tiddlywiki file to multiple html files

[Andreas Hahn]

Hi Ray,

that is the reason why PMario suggested to use the nodejs version of 
TiddlyWiki. There are commands available, namely the renderTiddler[1] 
and saveTiddler[2] commands to export tiddlers (based on a filter) into 
individual files.


/Andreas

[1] http://tiddlywiki.com/#RenderTiddlersCommand
[2] http://tiddlywiki.com/#SaveTiddlersCommand

Am 23.02.2015 um 09:47 schrieb Raymond McDowell:
Having played about a bit with the offered suggestions, it looks like 
TiddlyWiki cannot readily export a body of tiddlers into individual 
discreet files. At least, not yet. Too bad. Something to keep looking for.



Monday, February 23, 2015 at 8:18:42 AM UTC+8, Raymond McDowell wrote:

Consider me a novice.

After years of reluctance, I started using TiddlyWiki. I am now
invested and my TW5 is my pkm. I use it for writing, tasks,
projects, catalogs, brainstorming and journals. All
inter-connected in a many to many structure and neatly accessible
via TW's tags, sophisticated search, outlined TOCs and Checkboxed
lists. Having said that, one of the deal breakers of the past (but
which I ignored because TW5 can now import plain text files and
since I can use TW5 across all my 5 Windows devices and 7 Android
devices) is the ability to export the entire body of my tiddlywiki
as individual plain text or html files.

This is important because I hate marrying any tool that I cannot
divorce should it cease development, become proprietary, or
suddenly blow up in my face.  Backups are cool, but I would like
to have an option whereby I can export, fiddle with, re-import or
use a a plain-text wiki if no other options are available.

Is this possible?

Thanks,

Ray

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Re: [tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[Andreas Hahn]

Hey Stephan,

at the moment TW is incapable of handling binary files (i.e. zip files). 
Unless you want to make big changes to various parts of the core, I 
suggest you do the following:


1. Convert your .zip into a base64 string
2. Place it inside a plain text tiddler (for reference)
3. Place a specially crafted link pointing to the url: 
"data:application/zip;base64,"


That should initiate a file dowload onClick is is currently the easiest 
way of doing it. Of course you can imagine writing a widget that reads 
the tiddler and crafts such a link,
clicks it and removes the link (that is how the download saver does it), 
but you can manually craft the link as well.


/Andreas

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[tw] Re: [TW5] exporting tiddlywiki file to multiple html files

[Raymond McDowell]

Having played about a bit with the offered suggestions, it looks like 
TiddlyWiki cannot readily export a body of tiddlers into individual 
discreet files. At least, not yet. Too bad. Something to keep looking for.


Monday, February 23, 2015 at 8:18:42 AM UTC+8, Raymond McDowell wrote:
>
> Consider me a novice.  
>
> After years of reluctance, I started using TiddlyWiki. I am now invested 
> and my TW5 is my pkm. I use it for writing, tasks, projects, catalogs, 
> brainstorming and journals. All inter-connected in a many to many structure 
> and neatly accessible via TW's tags, sophisticated search, outlined TOCs 
> and Checkboxed lists. Having said that, one of the deal breakers of the 
> past (but which I ignored because TW5 can now import plain text files and 
> since I can use TW5 across all my 5 Windows devices and 7 Android devices) 
> is the ability to export the entire body of my tiddlywiki as individual 
> plain text or html files. 
>
> This is important because I hate marrying any tool that I cannot divorce 
> should it cease development, become proprietary, or suddenly blow up in my 
> face.  Backups are cool, but I would like to have an option whereby I can 
> export, fiddle with, re-import or use a a plain-text wiki  if no other 
> options are available.
>
> Is this possible?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray
>

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[tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Montag, 23. Februar 2015 09:31:22 UTC+1 schrieb PMario:
>
> If you use eg: github to host 2 different files, you can use a simple 
> download link in TW 
>

At the moment I have difficulties using GIT. My browsers are no longer 
supported by them and the commandline also is very reluctant :(


and you don't have the mess with converting zip to base64 and back. 
>

But this seems to happen automatically when I drop a zip onto my TiddlyWiki.

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[tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[PMario]

If you use eg: github to host 2 different files, you can use a simple 
download link in TW and you don't have the mess with converting zip to 
base64 and back. 

If you use the github release feature [1][2], they will create a zip with 
your program and the docs contained in a single zip file. So you get free 
hosting and free release processing, free issue handling and free source 
control. 

have fun!
-mario

[1] https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/releases
[2] https://help.github.com/articles/creating-releases/

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[The Bo]

Hi Jeremy,

now I've got it. ;) I will keep that in mind.

Greetings
Tueb

Am Freitag, 20. Februar 2015 17:26:44 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> Hi Bo
>  
>
>> >>Change the system-tiddler $:/core/ui/sidebarlists: 
>> >>Replace the code <> to the 
>> tab you want to start with.
>>
>> works for me. Am I missing something?
>>
>
> Apologies, what I should have said is that there's no way to configure the 
> default tab without overriding the sidebar lists shadow tiddler. The 
> disadvantage of doing that is that it means that you won't get updates to 
> that tiddler that may arrive in future upgrades of the TiddlyWiki core.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>  
>
>
>  
>
>>
>> Greeting
>> Tueb
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 19:14:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>>>
>>> Hi Bo
>>>
>>> It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You can explicitly 
>>> allow saving for the tiddler that contains the state of the sidebar tabs, 
>>> which means that when you save the current state will be remembered:
>>>
>>> \define saveTiddlerFilter()
>>> [is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]] 
>>> -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] 
>>> -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[$:/status/UserName]] 
>>> -[prefix[$:/state]] -[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]] 
>>> [[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
>>> \end
>>> {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, The Bo  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Thanks to both of you! :)

 @Jeremy
 Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was looking for. 

 There is just one little issue: 
 How can I define "contents-toc" for replacing "open" as the default 
 startup-tab?

 Greeting
 Tueb

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[tw] Re: [TW5] exporting tiddlywiki file to multiple html files

[PMario]

Hi Ray,

>I would like to have an option whereby I can export, fiddle with, 
re-import or use a a plain-text wiki  if no other options are available.

I think, the important part her is "export - fiddle with - re-import". 
Export / Import is solved with the answers Jed and Eric gave. ... 

So if you export in json format, it's easy to import your stuff into a TW 
again. ... but json isn't easy to "fiddle with" :)
Exporting as csv can be easy to "fiddle with" but you can't import it with 
drag and drop. ... 

TiddlyWiki has a possibility, to convert a single file TW into *.tid files. 
Each .tid file is a standard text file. 
eg: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/hellothere/HelloThere.tid

These .tid files are actually used to build a file TW. As you can see, 
there are all the fields. modified, type, created, tags  and the 
content. 
This format can be drag and dropped into an open TW in the browser and it 
is easy to fiddle with in a standard text editor. 

What you need is: 

A working nodejs installation for your operating system.
Several command line commands to extract and rebuild your wiki file. 

IMO the export - fiddle - import workflow isn't very efficient, but it's 
possible if you really want it. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: Embed a ZIP for download?

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Montag, 23. Februar 2015 08:54:49 UTC+1 schrieb PMario:
>
> So you want to distribute the application within the documentation?
>

I want to host the TiddlyWiki on (e.g.) tiddlyspot. As a sideefect yes, the 
documentation would contain the zip in a "saveable" form.

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