Bump. 

Hi guys, I always forget not to post on weekends. I never get any feedback 
from anyone when I do. Or maybe people were uncomfortable and didn't 
understand that my comments about Rich were a good-natured joke, given that 
his object frame inspired me to use most of my Saturday playing with it.

Any feedback on my use of Rich's object frame in 
http://giffmex.org/notes/infinitiddly.html or help you can give me on the 
hurdles I still face (see original post) would be great.

Dave

On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 7:25:24 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Rich Shumaker is evil! ;-)
>
> Thanks to this thread 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/AatW5wFls-w, I 
> discovered Rich Shumaker's "TW inside a TW" 
> http://t5a.tiddlyspot.com/#_canonical_uri%20Example. That got me thinking 
> again about TW as an infinitely expandable content management system. So 
> thanks to Rich I spent a day tinkering instead of getting my own work done. 
> So he is only evil in that he distracted me from my work for the day. But 
> actually I am grateful to him for doing that! Thanks Rich!
>
> I created a central hub file called InfiniTiddly, then I made a number of 
> adjustments to the Psalms TiddlyWiki I wrote about earlier today and 
> created a portal to it in InfiniTiddly using Rich's ObjectFrame.
>
> http://giffmex.org/notes/infinitiddly.html
>
> The Psalms tiddler found there is actually a portal to access the Psalms 
> TiddlyWiki. I could fill Infinitiddly with objectframes to many other 
> TiddlyWiki files in this way, and have an fairly infinite library of 
> tiddlers accessible in one TW, and a user might not necessarily realize 
> that that is what is happening. Filesize becomes irrelevant.
>
> I am happy with the results so far, but there are some wrinkles I would 
> like to see ironed out before I start using this widescale:
>
> On the bright side:
>
> 1. Viewing: I hid the sidebar in the Psalms TW so that what comes into 
> view in the Infinitiddly is the default tiddler, not the sidebar. The 
> Psalms file has a white background now so that it does not contrast with 
> the tiddler contents.
> 2. Printing: When printing from Infinitiddly, only the tiddler contents 
> shows, not the icons or either of the frames.
> 3. At the top of the viewtemplate in the Psalms file, I have a home 
> button, a download/save button, a link to a special search tiddler, the 
> chevrons to reveal the sidebar, and more/edit/close. They are off to the 
> left so they won't interfere with the outer InfiniTiddly more/edit/close, 
> and they are separated by color to make it easier for the eye to scan and 
> memorize them.
>
> On the medium side: There are probably more icons there than most people 
> will want to stomach: 3 icons for the frame tiddler in Infinitiddly, and 
> seven icons in the tiddlers at the Psalms file. In particular it would take 
> some getting used to, to avoid closing the outer frame tiddler when what 
> you want to do is close the inner Psalms tiddler. But I am content with 
> this for my own use, and I think it looks pretty clean. You be the judge.
>
> Problematic and beyond my limits: 
>
> 1. While on my laptop (Firefox in Windows) long tiddlers have scrollbars, 
> on my iPad they do not, and there is no way to get to longer content.
> 2. When printing longer tiddlers from Infinitiddly, the Psalms content 
> below the bottom of the Infinitiddly portal tiddler is cut off.
> 3. There is no way to permalink a tiddler from the Psalms file while 
> viewing from the Infinitiddly file. The Infinitiddly file is what stays in 
> the browser address bar.
> 4. The process of viewing the content from the Psalms tiddlywiki is pretty 
> slow on the iPad.
>
> Would love your suggestions: Are there ways to fix these four problems? 
> Are there other problems with these files, blind spots I have not 
> considered? Are there easier and more appropriate ways to do the same thing 
> (I had to tinker with several core shadow tiddlers, and the CSS is probably 
> a mess).
>
> Blessings,
>
> Dave
>

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