Re: [tw] Re: change font for tiddlers under a certain tag (journal)

[Sean Kelley]

Really late, but writing .tc-tagged-201605 p,li {} will work.

https://jsfiddle.net/kbvqv1zp/

On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 8:32:14 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Hi Progetti (and others), 
>
> this is a CSS question. Wondering if you can help. 
>
> I have this code: 
>
> .tc-tagged-201605 p{
> font-family: "Bookman Old Style";
> font-size: 115%;
> }
>
> .tc-tagged-201605 li {
> font-family: "Bookman Old Style";
>  font-size: 115%;
>
> How can I write it in one line, so I can define BOTH p and li without 
> specifying the tag class each time? I just don't know the syntax for the 
> code. is it p,li? p, li? {p li}? I tried to look it up but i don't know 
> what these terms are called for an effective Google search. Thank you! 
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:33 PM Shay Shaked  > wrote:
>
>> That did it! .tc-titlebar is the right... class? I thought it's a div. 
>> Either way, it works. Thank you! 
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:23 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> its an H2, by the way.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:14:32 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:

 Does ".tc-tagged-CHOSENTAG .tc-titlebar {CSS code}" get it?

 On Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:33:36 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> This is most excellent! I can now have a different font for anything 
> "journal." I'd like now to change it so that my headings and title are 
> also 
> part of the change, but not the tags inside or the time stamp. This means 
> I 
> had to include my CSS porperties within "p{}" and I went ahead and did 
> the 
> same for h1... however, what is the title? I tried "title" 
> or tc-tiddler-title, but it doesn't seem to work. Suggestions? and thanks 
> Progetti!
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:35 PM  wrote:
>
>> Footnotes: 
>>
>> I was assuming  you use TW5. 
>>
>> In case its not clear the stylesheet tiddler you create needs to be 
>> tagged "$:/tags/Stylesheet"
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:17:32 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>>>
>>> Fortunately its easy if you use one tag for all, like "journal". 
>>> Here is the documentation: http://tinyurl.com/j7rq6ex. AND you can 
>>> get more sophisticated if needed with overrides possible so long as you 
>>> get 
>>> the CSS cascade order right, i.e. start a style for a tag common to all 
>>> your entries you want to re-style, then override that style for more 
>>> specific tags.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:15:29 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:

 Hello people! 

 Today's question is, how can I change the font of my journal 
 entries. 

 I write my journal entries in reverse date order, so I have mm 
 tag for each month. Each month I go to the last month tag, which also 
 has a 
 table of contents of all of my tiddlers and sometimes goals, and make 
 a 
 clone of it. I then change that tiddler title to reflect the new 
 month, and 
 tweak the TOC settings to display the right tiddlers. For organization 
 sake, I am going to move all these tags under a general "journal" tag 
 soon. 

 What I want is that whenever I tag a tiddler with one of my mm 
 tags, it will automatically change font. I know how to change fonts in 
 the 
 main settings, but that changes the font for *everything*, which I 
 don't want. Any suggestions? I don't mind including a piece of code 
 into 
 each of my monthly tags I mentioned above, if that helps. 

 thanks! 



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[tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I think that my macros fulfilled your requirements. If not, perhaps the 
example data and the expected output could be refined.


I.e three different macros (presumably using filters) but where each macros 
> deals with the input as multiple items and where the output is in the same 
> "format" regardless if it is a simplestring or a [[brackedted and space 
> separated item]].


>
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[tw] [TW5] Creating a ViewTemplate to show some text above the content

['Alexander Eckert' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi,

I'm new to TW and I try to create my own knowledgebase. Therefore I'm 
building my own Plugins to use their function in different wikis.

ATM I'm trying to create a ViewTemplate to show some text (in this case the 
author of a book) above the edited content of the tiddler. But every 
content in the text-field is shown above my VieTemplate code. 

I tried  and {{!!text}} to show the text-content below, but 
everytime I use this I get the content shown twice. Above and below the 
name and link of the author. 

How could I suppress the content at the beginning inside the ViewTemplate 
and insert the text at the place I want the content to appear?

Kind regards,

Alex

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

> Makes sense. But what do you think about this approach; update the original + 
> make a new post to (only) notify about the updated original. IMO it makes 
> sense to try and save new readers of the thread from reading the erroneous 
> stuff.

Yes, that's exactly the right approach: make sure that the archive reads 
properly for readers in the future, while also catering for people reading now.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[Mat]

BJ, isn't your StoryTopTabs  
equivalent to tiddlersbar?

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

[Mat]

c pa and Mark, I'm afraid my question was still poorly phrased (really 
sorry!) but I think Mark figured out most of my intentions. Will get back 
on details (in a few days) but big thanks!

I've also updated the original post to include this:

I.e three different macros (presumably using filters) but where each macros 
> deals with the input as multiple items and where the output is in the same 
> "format" regardless if it is a simplestring or a [[brackedted and space 
> separated item]].



<:-) 

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[tw] Re: Separating core for browser caching

[PMario]

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 5:09:17 PM UTC+2, Sean Kelley wrote:
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> Does anyone know of a good way of separating the core from any additional 
> tiddlers created by the user? I'd love to have the core cached by the 
> browser. 
>

The core is a plugin too. So imo the part of TW that can be browser cached 
is the boot procedure. Which is way to small, to make a difference. 
As I see it, it would be a little bit more like this: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js

Even if TW empty.html is 1.4 MByte, in reality about 300k of data will be 
sent, if you use a server that uses gzip compression. 

So as soon as you use one image all this micro optimizations go away. 

just my 2 cents
-mario

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

[Mat]

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 5:32:15 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Do remember that many of us read this list via email, so it's much better 
> to repost, and not rely on people visiting the forum directly.
>

Makes sense. But what do you think about this approach; update the original 
+ make a new post to (only) notify about the updated original. IMO it makes 
sense to try and save new readers of the thread from reading the erroneous 
stuff.

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[progetti]

WOW. That's a brilliant design!

On Friday, 27 May 2016 20:40:51 UTC+2, BJ wrote:
>
> Nope, have a look here
> http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> cheers
>
> BJ
>
> On 24 May 2016 at 00:14, 'MGT' via TiddlyWiki  > wrote:
>
>> BJ, did you ever get around to implementing the tiddlerbar plugin in TW5?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mark
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[BJ]

Nope, have a look here
http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/

cheers

BJ

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> BJ, did you ever get around to implementing the tiddlerbar plugin in TW5?
>
> Cheers,
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> Mark
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[tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Mat,

I'm sure this isn't what you want, but maybe this will help refine the 
question. If you want 3 different kinds of output, then you need 3 
different macros.

\define mymacro1(input) <$list filter="$input$ +[nth[2]]">[[<$view 
field=title/>]]

\define mymacro2(input) <$list filter="$input$ +[nth[2]]"><$view field=title
/>

\define mymacro3(input) <$list filter="$input$ +[nth[2]]">


<>  

<>


<>  

<>



<>  

<>


<>  

<>





On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 5:16:35 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> <> and  <>
>
> How do I access bb and [[bb bb]] only if I want the result to be:
>
> 1a) bb  andee ee
> 1b) bb   andee ee
> 1c) [[bb]]   and[[ee ee]]
>
>
> Basic question... but I trip on this constantly and get mixed variants 
> (e.g bb but [[ee ee]], or a monolithic result that includes the whole 
> parameter argument).
>
> I think a comprehensive and comparative answer+examples on this belongs in 
> the docs. (But it's not a hypothetical question, I'd really appreciate the 
> answer).
>
> Anyone brave enough? I'm guessing there are only a handful who even *can* 
> answer it. Also partial answers are welcome, of course.
>
> [Edit The post was clarified after PMarios reply just below.]
>
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: Query about Makedatauri Macro

[progetti]

Great!  Many thanks. I am beginning to understand it & it looks like it 
will do what I need. 

I did your example with a long tiddler & it worked EXCEPT its prefixed by "
*data:text/vnd.tiddlywiki,*" not "*text/plain*"*. *But actually seems to 
make no functional difference? It worked. 

Also, do you know if there is a way to *switch off the prefix* because I 
want to append the encoded text to an URL root.

Josiah


On Friday, 27 May 2016 17:43:16 UTC+2, c pa wrote:
>
> Josiah,
>
> The purpose of a data uri is to encode a web page or some part of a web 
> page into a url. Thus, you don't need to have access to that external 
> resource in order to display it. This is great for single page wikis like 
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> Example: Clicking on the following . . .(from the datauri example)  
> data:text/plain,some%20example%20text
> will open a web page with the text in it. It will do this even if you are 
> not connected to the web.
>
> To pass the text of a tiddler to a URL use the datauri macro as in the 
> example (Except use the title of your text tiddler instead of the jpg used 
> in the example
>
> <$macrocall $name="datauri" title="Motovun Jack.jpg" $output="text/plain"/>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

['c pa' via TiddlyWiki]

\define mymacro(first_parameter second_parameter third_parameter)

This is the second parameter: $second_parameter$

\end

\define mymacro2(first_parameter second_parameter third_parameter)

This is the second component of the second parameter: <$set name="part" 
filter="$second_parameter$ +[last[]]">
<>


\end

\define mymacro3(first_parameter second_parameter third_parameter)

This is a link to the second component of the second parameter: <$set 
name="part" filter="$second_parameter$ +[last[]]">
<$link to=<> > <> 


\end

<$macrocall $name="mymacro" first_parameter="aa" second_parameter="bb gg" 
third_parameter="cc" />

<$macrocall $name="mymacro2" first_parameter="aa" second_parameter="bb gg" 
third_parameter="cc" />


<$macrocall $name="mymacro3" first_parameter="aa" second_parameter="bb gg" 
third_parameter="cc" />


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[tw] Re: Query about Makedatauri Macro

['c pa' via TiddlyWiki]

Josiah,

The purpose of a data uri is to encode a web page or some part of a web 
page into a url. Thus, you don't need to have access to that external 
resource in order to display it. This is great for single page wikis like 
TiddlyWiki.

Example: Clicking on the following . . .(from the datauri example)  
data:text/plain,some%20example%20text
will open a web page with the text in it. It will do this even if you are 
not connected to the web.

To pass the text of a tiddler to a URL use the datauri macro as in the 
example (Except use the title of your text tiddler instead of the jpg used 
in the example

<$macrocall $name="datauri" title="Motovun Jack.jpg" $output="text/plain"/>



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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

[Jeremy Ruston]

Do remember that many of us read this list via email, so it's much better to 
repost, and not rely on people visiting the forum directly.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 27 May 2016, at 09:14, Mat  wrote:
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> Thanks for input. I rephrased the question so hope it makes sense now.
> 
> <:-)
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[tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

[Mat]

Thanks for input. I rephrased the question so hope it makes sense now.

<:-)

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[tw] Separating core for browser caching

[Sean Kelley]

Does anyone know of a good way of separating the core from any additional 
tiddlers created by the user? I'd love to have the core cached by the 
browser. 

This has been mentioned in TiddlyWikiDev: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/mNbp7dn4vZk/enIZKjA5DokJ

Thanks! 

Sean

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[tw] Re: [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

[PMario]

Hi Mat, 
I don't understand your question. ... 

If you use [[bb bb]] in your second example ... there is no bb so you can't 
access it.
-m

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[tw] Re: IncludePlugin vs MatchTagsPlugin

[Sergey Litvinov]

Hi Eric.
I have the same problem here... still it exists. 
Unfortunately current version of MatchTagsPlugin again misses tiddlers from 
included tiddlywiki using the IncludePlugin (I use tw classic of course). 
Also the standard "list" macro doesn't see them as well when I switch on 
the MtachTagsPlugin. Can you help please?

вторник, 20 мая 2008 г., 3:12:02 UTC+3 пользователь Robert Mark Bram 
написал:
>
> Hi All, 
>
> I have included a few tiddlers via the IncludePlugin and I can find 
> them by their tags using YourSearchPlugin i.e. searching for "#TagOne 
> #TagTwo" works. But MatchTagsPlugin doesn't find them i.e. these are 
> both empty: 
> <> 
> <> 
>
> Is this something I haven't understood about how stuff works or is it 
> something that can be fixed? :) 
>
> Rob 
> :) 
>
>
> http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#IncludePlugin 
> http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin 
> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin

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Re: [tw] Presenting: StretchText - an alternative to links or popups

[progetti]

When I read http://www.telescopictext.com I really understood the point. I 
can see how the power of transclusion in TW lends itself to it.

On Thursday, 26 May 2016 11:05:44 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> @Alex
>
> thanks for calling me the Paul McCartney of TW... (..no? not quite what 
> you said? Oh, ok... ;-)
>
>
> Instinctively id like the StretchText tiddler to have  a field containing 
>> one of more Stretchtexts. Rather than the author adding the stretches 
>> inline, they are stored in an appropriate tiddler. It paves the way for 
>> transclusion-centric authoring.
>>
>
>
> Yeah. I intentionally wanted it inline because I think of it as a 
> small/quick tool to not break authoring flow - but it *is* possible to 
> transclude the content. Just put
>   
> {{!!fieldname}}
>
> as the content. Or do I misunderstand your idea?
>
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Query about Makedatauri Macro

[progetti]

Is the Makedatauri Macro (http://tiddlywiki.com/#makedatauri%20Macro) able 
to produce properly "percentage encoded" URIs? On first look it appears so 
but I just can't figure out how to use it. 

My intent is to pass the text of a tiddler to an URL.

I'm out of my depth on this so need some input.

Josiah

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[tw] Re: Presenting: StretchText - an alternative to links or popups

[Mat]

@Hegart, thanks for showing this. Funny how a concept that I'm interested 
in has been there all the time and I've just missed it. Probably partly 
because I didn't know the term for it.

Yes, nesting does seem to complicate it but I hope to come up with 
something that keeps simplicity for the author. (This is not prio right now 
tho). I think a difficulty is that you cannot nest macro calls, as far as I 
know.

<:-)

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[tw] [TW5] list filter; How access particular element and particular output format

[Mat]

<> and  <>

How do I access bb and [[bb bb]] only if I want the result to be:

1a) bb  andbb bb
1b) bb   andbb bb
1c) [[bb]]   and[[bb bb]]


Basic question... but I trip on this constantly and get mixed variants (e.g 
bb but [[bb bb]], or a monolithic result that includes aa and cc).

I think a comprehensive and comparative answer+examples on this belongs in 
the docs. (But it's not a hypothetical question, I'd really appreciate the 
answer).

Anyone brave enough? I'm guessing there are only a handful who even *can* 
answer it. Also partial answers are welcome, of course.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: One source (or aggregator) for downloading plug-ins???

[HC Haase]

@Jed
thanks for the answer. not enough volunteer manpower to do everything... 
makes sense. 
Nice to hear you are cooking something up (when the time is there)  to make 
the updating more smooth maybe something to do with the federation 
thing...

One question though... why is there only some plugins available form the 
pluging tab in TW5 settings? is a freeze in time from when that feature was 
implemented? 

Den onsdag den 25. maj 2016 kl. 14.07.31 UTC+2 skrev prog...@assays.tv:
>
> Jed
>
> Thanks for the very detailed reply. I will mull it & come back.
>
> Josiah 
>
> On Wednesday, 25 May 2016 13:12:35 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> I assure you we are very aware of how difficult it is to find what has 
>> and hasn't been done and how difficult a task it is to start using the more 
>> interesting parts of tiddlywiki. I am mostly in charge of maintaining the 
>> list of plugins used by the community search site and I don't know a lot of 
>> what has been made or is being worked on. Most of the development work is 
>> taken up by improving the core so that as a basic standalone wiki 
>> tiddlywiki works well. Unfortunately since this is an open project and 
>> there is no dedicated staff being paid for development everything is 
>> limited to what we are interested in making in our spare time. 
>> One result of this is, to use myself as an example, that when I make 
>> something interesting I tend to make only enough documentation so that I 
>> can use it and then I don't worry about it anymore. There are plenty of 
>> other people who do the same thing so over all documentation is lacking. 
>> That is why I started the wiki reference wiki 
>>  but that is done in my spare time 
>> instead of working on any of my other projects that I generally find more 
>> interesting. The problem only gets bigger when you add the other authors 
>> who make plugins that I try to list because they need to make the plugins, 
>> then they need to host them somewhere, then I need to know they made the 
>> plugin and then I need to find the time to create the entry on my site then 
>> Erwan needs to find the time to update his site so that the community 
>> search has the correct list.
>> Me and Erwan have been in contact with each other about this and every so 
>> often some plugin authors will contact me, but for all of us this is 
>> secondary to the development itself. We have no dedicated organizer or 
>> logistics person so that side of things only gets done when someone who is 
>> working on development decides to take a break and spend time on it.
>> I am working on some things that will make it much easier for someone to 
>> develop a plugin and then send me the information to list it, but that is 
>> one of many projects I am working on.
>>
>> This isn't to complain, just to explain why things are the way they are. 
>> Until we get some more people working on it (hopefully some who are 
>> dedicated organizers) progress is going to be slow.
>>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Pass a formatted Tiddler to GMAIL? Possible?

[progetti]

Thanks AlexHough

its interesting ... the cross connections thing.

I will play with this a bit to try make it work for me. But TBH I still 
just want to click a button to pass a Tiddler to Gmail to help me serve a 
mailing list with minimum steps..

Josiah

On Thursday, 26 May 2016 00:21:01 UTC+2, AlexHough wrote:
>
> I cut and paste into Gmail from the preview window ro tiddler in view 
> template
>
> In the latter method, when I set "links as titles" in tw, and I copy and 
> paste into gmail, the tile links can then open a TiddlyWiki permalink... I 
> discovered it by  accident, I took some notes at a meeting and sent them 
> via gmail as minutes.
>
> It offers to me that if the recipients had an identical file structure, 
> and the TiddlyWiki was run from node with tiddlers I a Dropbox then the 
> recipient would be able to click on the link and view the message in the 
> context of the wiki.
>
>  I like the idea of hypertext minutes and the "meeting of two people" 
> being the next step in the evolution of TiddlyWiki for personal non linear 
> note taking  non linear notes for sharing. I like the idea of gmail and 
> TiddlyWiki  shared between two people, the back and forth ping pong 
> communication has merits; Web 2.0 offered improvements, but ther simplicity 
> of back and forth comm u cation has its merits.
>
> Alex
>
> On Wednesday, 25 May 2016,  wrote:
>
>> Mark S.
>>
>> Thanks for the tips.
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>> On Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:40:18 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> In Firefox, to access the HTML version of your code, select your text 
>>> and then right click and select  View Selection Source. In the window that 
>>> pops up, your HTML text is already selected. Copy that.
>>>
>>> Now how to send it from Gmail? This is a problem with Gmail, not TW. But 
>>> someone has worked out a neat solution using Google Docs/Drive. Read it 
>>> about it here:
>>>
>>> http://www.labnol.org/internet/send-html-email/19672/
>>>
>>> Once you have installed the spreadsheet  in Google Drive  you will be 
>>> able to open a form that lets you paste in your HTML code and send it.
>>>
>>> Not a one-click solution, but better than doing all that formatting by 
>>> hand.
>>>
>>> Another solution, if you have a desktop client like Thunderbird hooked 
>>> into your Gmail, is to just send from that client. Thunderbird has an 
>>> option to insert html.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Mark
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 2:55:49 AM UTC-7, prog...@assays.tv wrote:

 use case: I use TW5 to maintain data for a regular GMAIL mailing of 
 items I select. 

 currently: I have to copy and paste to GMAIL & then redo the styling 
 manually. This is cumbersome.

 wanted: Ability to (1) Click a button on a tiddler to PASS its text to 
 GMAIL. (2) Pass also the STYLING of the tiddler.

 QUESTION: has anyone made steps in this direction?

 comment: IF the networking possibilities of TW5 were stronger & more 
 upfront I am sure it would get more widely known.

 -- 
>>
>>

On Thursday, 26 May 2016 00:21:01 UTC+2, AlexHough wrote:
>
> I cut and paste into Gmail from the preview window ro tiddler in view 
> template
>
> In the latter method, when I set "links as titles" in tw, and I copy and 
> paste into gmail, the tile links can then open a TiddlyWiki permalink... I 
> discovered it by  accident, I took some notes at a meeting and sent them 
> via gmail as minutes.
>
> It offers to me that if the recipients had an identical file structure, 
> and the TiddlyWiki was run from node with tiddlers I a Dropbox then the 
> recipient would be able to click on the link and view the message in the 
> context of the wiki.
>
>  I like the idea of hypertext minutes and the "meeting of two people" 
> being the next step in the evolution of TiddlyWiki for personal non linear 
> note taking  non linear notes for sharing. I like the idea of gmail and 
> TiddlyWiki  shared between two people, the back and forth ping pong 
> communication has merits; Web 2.0 offered improvements, but ther simplicity 
> of back and forth comm u cation has its merits.
>
> Alex
>
> On Wednesday, 25 May 2016,  wrote:
>
>> Mark S.
>>
>> Thanks for the tips.
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>> On Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:40:18 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> In Firefox, to access the HTML version of your code, select your text 
>>> and then right click and select  View Selection Source. In the window that 
>>> pops up, your HTML text is already selected. Copy that.
>>>
>>> Now how to send it from Gmail? This is a problem with Gmail, not TW. But 
>>> someone has worked out a neat solution using Google Docs/Drive. Read it 
>>> about it here:
>>>
>>> http://www.labnol.org/internet/send-html-email/19672/
>>>
>>> Once you have installed the spreadsheet  in Google Drive  you will be 
>>> able to open a form that lets you paste in your HTML code and send it.
>>>
>>> Not a one-click