[tw] Re: working with "original" shadow tiddler

[TonyM]

My 2cents

You want to override the override of a shadow tiddler to access its fields?

What about cloning the shadow tiddler with a new name (remove and tags that 
make it active) and use that copy to identify the list of fields in it, 
which will match those in the original shadow tiddler. You can then use 
this information to reference the actual fields in the shadow tiddler?

Just a different approach, and a variation on Marios "Just rename the "new" 
tiddler and the shadow will come back.  back and forth. "

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, 2 September 2017 09:09:48 UTC+10, Rustem wrote:
>
>
> When I have a tiddler overriding a shadow, how can I display the original 
> shadow tiddler as defined in a plugin, including all it's fields?
>
> --R.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Change tag "bubble" apperance

[TonyM]

Tom,

To start with you may want to use the words "tag pill".

I did a little investigation and found in my current selected theme 
$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base the following;

button.tc-tag-label, span.tc-tag-label {
display: inline-block;
padding: 0.16em 0.7em;
font-size: 0.9em;
font-weight: 400;
line-height: 1.2em;
color: <>;
white-space: nowrap;
vertical-align: baseline;
background-color: <>;
border-radius: 1em;
}

If you edit this it replaces the shadow tiddler

Deleting "border-radius: 1em;" Got the result you were after.
Just changing to "border-radius: 0em;" also works

Not Happy?

Delete $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base and the default content will be 
restored.

I am sure there are more elegant methods like overwriting the CSS in a 
style sheet because if $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base is updated you 
will not see the update. But this works

But my hack was as follows;

Add to the Tiddler MyStyles tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet

The Whole clause above with your modification, this will override that in 
the theme.

People with more CSS scill can override just the boarder-radius.


Regards
Tony


On Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:18:40 UTC+10, Tom Bardout wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to know where I can find the code that makes the rounded corners 
> for tags. I'd like to make it rectangular
>

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[tw] Re: changing borders in specific cells

[TonyM]

I tested this,

In TWC and TW5, incidentally I am curious what it is for, hints on an 
interesting algorithm?.

Pasting into TW5 "works", then remove the boarder formats to get

|>| |query |>|demonstrative |>|>|>|>| quantifier |>|proximity |h
|>| |~|this |that |some |any |no |every |alternative |proximal |distal |h

Now go and find out how to "format" the boarders if necessary, but is it?

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, 7 September 2017 10:58:18 UTC+10, Silvercat wrote:
>
> I'm trying to get some stuff from TW Classic upgraded. The code previously 
> looked like this to group related bits together:
>
> |>| |border-left:2px solid;border-bottom:2px solid;border-right:2px solid; 
> query |>|border-right:2px solid; demonstrative |>|>|>|>| quantifier 
> |>|border-left:2px solid; proximity |h
> |>|border-bottom:2px solid; |~|border-left:2px solid;border-bottom:2px 
> solid; this |border-bottom:2px solid; that |border-bottom:2px 
> solid;border-left:2px solid; some |border-bottom:2px solid; any 
> |border-bottom:2px solid; no |border-bottom:2px solid; every 
> |border-bottom:2px solid; alternative |border-left:2px 
> solid;border-bottom:2px solid; proximal |border-bottom:2px solid; distal |h
>
> Is there a way to do it in TW5, aside from doing the whole table in html? 
> I'm not having any luck with googling.
>
> Thanks.
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

[TonyM]

Mat,

Wow leaps and bounds ahead. I will be depending on it to migrate my 
Personal organiser from TWC to TW5, when I "get around to it", lets hope I 
can find "a round tooit" because those tooits are quite rare :)

I am a little less trepidatious (apprehensive or nervous; filled with 
trepidation) with your "batch Manipulator" by my side.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 7 September 2017 04:40:23 UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
>  Updated   bigly to manipulate 
> even more masses even.
>
> The main news (yes, *real* news!) is that you can now batch manipulate 
> fields in a similar way as the tags.
>
> Believe me, Batch Manipulator will be great when you want to convert 
> imported TWC tids to TW5 format. But that is just one use case. There are 
> billions and billions more. Believe me.
>
> Note: It is not perfected yet but I will now not do more on it before I 
> stumble on problems with it myself. Unless there are serious bugs of 
> course, in which case I hope you report them here.
>
> So much winning.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] changing borders in specific cells

[Silvercat]

I'm trying to get some stuff from TW Classic upgraded. The code previously 
looked like this to group related bits together:

|>| |border-left:2px solid;border-bottom:2px solid;border-right:2px solid; 
query |>|border-right:2px solid; demonstrative |>|>|>|>| quantifier 
|>|border-left:2px solid; proximity |h
|>|border-bottom:2px solid; |~|border-left:2px solid;border-bottom:2px 
solid; this |border-bottom:2px solid; that |border-bottom:2px 
solid;border-left:2px solid; some |border-bottom:2px solid; any 
|border-bottom:2px solid; no |border-bottom:2px solid; every 
|border-bottom:2px solid; alternative |border-left:2px 
solid;border-bottom:2px solid; proximal |border-bottom:2px solid; distal |h

Is there a way to do it in TW5, aside from doing the whole table in html? 
I'm not having any luck with googling.

Thanks.

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[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

[TonyM]

Mario,

I did look at your bundler plugin and I think it is great, I intend to use 
it, I expect you will hear from me later because I have some thoughts about 
fitting it into a ecosystem of sorts. An ecosystem where the need to 
differentiate between editions and Apps, or modules will become more 
important.

My argument about lego blocks is they should make life less complex for the 
new and intermediate user to get results, while allowing them ultimately to 
develop complex solutions to complex problems without becoming tiddlywiki 
experts, while at the same time developing the knowledge to become expert. 

Yes, versioning may be an issue, so I will give this some focus during the 
design process.

*Some thoughts that come to mind, a little off topic.*

A team that works well together, lifts the capabilities of all team 
members, to such a degree that that team is what rises above all other 
teams. Attempts by individuals in a team to climb to the top within a team 
only reduces the teams effectiveness. Open source collaboration between 
passionate enthusiasts turns us all into expert professionals in the long 
run.

And Mario - you are a top contributor.

Regards
Tony 


On Thursday, 7 September 2017 02:23:22 UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 4:05:26 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> I would add to the idea of formed applications, another layer of self 
>> contained modules, as is often the outcome of a specific plugin rather than 
>> an whole edition. 
>>
>
> For me edtions and apps are the same thing.  but you are right lego 
> blocks are better, but increase the complexity.
>  
>
>> I plan to build something I call object tiddlers, and hope to create lego 
>> blocks rather than provide a lego kit for the "millennium falcon", I want 
>> to provide engines, landing gear and "nuclear power piles". So you build 
>> your spaceship, not simply ask questions or follow instructions.
>>
>
> Did you have a look at my bundler plugin 
> . IMO it could provide 
> "lego blocks", if you make the content "small enough". The main problem is, 
> to manage the versioning problems, that will come up. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Allora, Mat, thanks for the clarification. It looks like I will have to 
incite EXTERNAL FORCES to cleanse me of Perry Mason. J. 

@TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Will it be able to find all instances of "Perry Mason" in Tiddler texts 
>> and delete him (for the sake of humanity).
>>
>  

> Mat replied: 
>
... it is not possible to "cut out" only segments of a field content. If it 
> is a one-time job you have in mind, then the easiest is probably in a  
> text editor.
>

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Re: [tw] Parse PDF into tiddlers

[codacodercodacoder]

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 2:16:36 PM UTC-5, tib...@sunyit.edu 
wrote:
>
> I found a tool that can convert a PDF textbook to epub, with minimal 
> loss/corruption. Do we have an epub import tool lying around? I think Steve 
> Schneider did something with epub in the spring.
>
>
epub is a zip file.  If you unzip an epub file it will show you (among 
other things) its raw html content. 

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Re: [tw] Parse PDF into tiddlers

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Epubs like docx files are assemblages. They are NOT really one file. They 
are wrappers. Find out how to UN-wrap it. See what you got in that specific 
epub format after unwrapping. Tell us what is in it. j.

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

[Mat]

@TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
> Will it be able to find all instances of "Perry Mason" in Tiddler texts 
> and delete him (for the sake of humanity).
>

He he! If you mean to delete the full tiddlers then yes, that's doable. Or, 
if you'd want to clear out the text fields (fully) then that's also doable 
with a minor tweak. But it is not possible to "cut out" only segments of a 
field content. If it is a one-time job you have in mind, then the easiest 
is probably in a real text editor.

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Parse PDF into tiddlers

[tibbitl]

I found a tool that can convert a PDF textbook to epub, with minimal 
loss/corruption. Do we have an epub import tool lying around? I think Steve 
Schneider did something with epub in the spring.

On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 6:21:26 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The trouble with PDF is that, contrary to expectations, it is actually an 
> image file format, rather than a text document format. In other words, it 
> doesn’t know anything about paragraphs, or headers, or footers; all it 
> knows about are simple instructions to draw a given letter at given 
> coordinates. (Worse than that, some PDFs are actually just embedded 
> bitmaps). 
>
> That means that converting a PDF into a conventional document is more akin 
> to “optical character recognition” than ordinary file format conversion. It 
> takes machine learning or sophisticated heuristics for software to figure 
> out the structural relationships behind the document image. There is some 
> effective software available to do this conversion, but it tends to be 
> expensive because it’s such a hard problem and the capability is so 
> valuable. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy. 
>
>
> > On 1 Sep 2017, at 05:02, TonyM  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Such a tool would be helpful. 
> > 
> > Personally I would look into tools to turn pdfs into text then import 
> that, because there a many issues going from a highly formatted document 
> type to plain text. Not to mention text inside images where some OCR is 
> needed. 
> > 
> > Foxit reader and Pro is great for pdf work but not sure it will help 
> you. 
> > 
> > Regards 
> > Tony 
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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mat

Will it be able to find all instance of "Perry Mason" in Tiddler texts and 
delete him (for the sake of humanity).

Josiah

On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 20:40:23 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
>  Updated   bigly to manipulate 
> even more masses even.
>
> The main news (yes, *real* news!) is that you can now batch manipulate 
> fields in a similar way as the tags.
>
> Believe me, Batch Manipulator will be great when you want to convert 
> imported TWC tids to TW5 format. But that is just one use case. There are 
> billions and billions more. Believe me.
>
> Note: It is not perfected yet but I will now not do more on it before I 
> stumble on problems with it myself. Unless there are serious bugs of 
> course, in which case I hope you report them here.
>
> So much winning.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

[Mat]

 Updated   bigly to manipulate 
even more masses even.

The main news (yes, *real* news!) is that you can now batch manipulate 
fields in a similar way as the tags.

Believe me, Batch Manipulator will be great when you want to convert 
imported TWC tids to TW5 format. But that is just one use case. There are 
billions and billions more. Believe me.

Note: It is not perfected yet but I will now not do more on it before I 
stumble on problems with it myself. Unless there are serious bugs of 
course, in which case I hope you report them here.

So much winning.

<:-)

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[tw] [TW5] Change tag "bubble" apperance

[Tom Bardout]

Hi,

I'd like to know where I can find the code that makes the rounded corners 
for tags. I'd like to make it rectangular

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[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

[PMario]

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 4:05:26 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> I would add to the idea of formed applications, another layer of self 
> contained modules, as is often the outcome of a specific plugin rather than 
> an whole edition. 
>

For me edtions and apps are the same thing.  but you are right lego 
blocks are better, but increase the complexity.
 

> I plan to build something I call object tiddlers, and hope to create lego 
> blocks rather than provide a lego kit for the "millennium falcon", I want 
> to provide engines, landing gear and "nuclear power piles". So you build 
> your spaceship, not simply ask questions or follow instructions.
>

Did you have a look at my bundler plugin 
. IMO it could provide "lego 
blocks", if you make the content "small enough". The main problem is, to 
manage the versioning problems, that will come up. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Styles for Save-wiki button change in modal

[Vayu Asura]

I want to have a custom save-wiki button within a modal.

When I transclude {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki}} in a tiddler the button 
is displayed like on the sidebar with the image, invisible outline and 
changing color

When I put it into parameter of a modal message it is displayed as a grey 
empty button without image:

<$button message=tm-modal param="$:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki" >pop save 
button up


If I put some text into system tiddler it is case-red according to 
"tc-dirty-indicator" class so that's retained.

Why are others canceled?

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[tw] Re: Make a borderless table

[codacodercodacoder]

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 10:11:52 AM UTC-5, Vayu Asura wrote:
>
> maybe it has to do with some surrounding tags.
>
>
Something might be messing with it, but since the css border property is 
not inherited, it's unlikely.

Is it possible you have another css setting somewhere?  The "cascade" might 
be throwing you off.

Take a look in DevTools Inspector -- what does that show?

Open your Tiddler that has the table element in VIEW mode (not edit mode), 
right-click on the table element, choose the "Inspect" option.  You could 
then send a screen capture here for us to take a look.


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[tw] Re: Make a borderless table

[Vayu Asura]

maybe it has to do with some surrounding tags.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 10:44:15 PM UTC+3, 
codacoder...@outlook.com wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 2:16:13 PM UTC-5, Vayu Asura wrote:
>>
>>
>> when invoked with  it keeps the 
>> outermost border of the table
>>
>>
> I see no border using Eric's code.  I checked the css and looked in 
> DevTools inspector.  Apart from TW's row styling being applied to the 
> wikitext version, they're identical with respect to borders. 
>

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[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

[TonyM]

I would add to the idea of formed applications, another layer of self 
contained modules, as is often the outcome of a specific plugin rather than 
an whole edition. 

I plan to build something I call object tiddlers, and hope to create lego 
blocks rather than provide a lego kit for the "millennium falcon", I want 
to provide engines, landing gear and "nuclear power piles". So you build 
your spaceship, not simply ask questions or follow instructions.

Editions and modules, or self contained plugins are the building blocks for 
a newby. By the time they get to ask questions in the existing group they 
may already know how to answer the question them-self.

We need to watch the ever present possibility of people loosing interest, 
too few people have the patience I have after 30 years of wrestling with 
Information Technology. It would be sad to find ourselves attracting and 
engaging people, for them to only give up because they hit too many 
barriers. We need to make it possible for people to build usable spaceships 
before they give up.

Regards
Tony



On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:05:21 UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao c pa
>
> I wrote ...
>
>> >>START a TiddlyWikiNewbie that contains ONLY info for beginners
>>
>  
> c pa replied: 
>
>> Because TiddlyWiki is such a complex and functional product, making a 
>> distinction between newbie and "not newbie" questions is very hard ...
>>
>
> I agree IF the newbie is a "customiser". Then they are on the road to 
> becoming a DIY addict like US--and need to go through the hell of it.
>
> *I was thinking more* that most "newbies" are just looking for an ALREADY 
> MADE SOLUTION. 
>
> I think its the weakest area of TiddlyWiki is that the main thing we 
> communicate to people is:  "its wonderful BUT complicated". 
>
> How about, instead? "HERE IS THE SCREENPLAY MAKER" & "THERE IS THE 
> BRILLIANT GTD SYSTEM"?
>
> I think there is a *BIG need for a Newbie Section* to deliver FORMED 
> APPLICATIONS. I think we are alienating users as we currently do it. Just 
> MO.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

[Lost Admin]

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 9:57:57 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 7:21:04 PM UTC+2, Lost Admin wrote:
>>
>> Minimal, and reliable test case:
>>
>> 1) Set-up a WebDAV server on Apache (follow the Apache instructions, 
>> nothing special).
>>
>
> :) .. I was thinking about a IIS testcase. .. Will run some tests 
>
> There is a video about setting up IIS. I agree, it would be good to test 
the popular web servers that support WebDAV and eventually collect sets of 
instructions on setting them up. 

I was planning on reviewing the video (from another thread) and setting up 
IIS on my home computer (Windows 10 Home) if it is possible as a test 
environment for IIS. I haven't gotten around to it. Apache is my preferred 
web server. I messed with lighttpd because it has a smaller memory 
footprint. Someone should probably test things with Nginx as well (but it 
won't be me).
 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

[PMario]

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 7:21:04 PM UTC+2, Lost Admin wrote:
>
> Minimal, and reliable test case:
>
> 1) Set-up a WebDAV server on Apache (follow the Apache instructions, 
> nothing special).
>

:) .. I was thinking about a IIS testcase. .. Will run some tests 

-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Hide Tiddler Toolbar items on select tiddlers

[TonyM]

Richard,

That is the best answer anyone has given me to a tiddlywiki question - 
EVER. It supports the adage "the best way to learn is to teach" and it give 
me the information I need to set up a more structuresd solution to the 
original problem along with a deeper understanding to solve as yet unasked 
Questions.

Great work,

Dont hesitate to ask for my help developing material.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 14:45:09 UTC+10, RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Don't know if you ever solved this but better late than never if not. I 
> hope you don't mind but I used it as an example on my new site (I plan to 
> write a series of tutorials covering stuff like this) 
> https://www.didaxy.com/selectively-hiding-the-edit-button-on-tiddlers and 
> the explanation's there along with a "tl;dr"
>
> Basically...
>
> find $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title and swap this chunk
>
> <$list 
> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[~$:/tags/ViewToolbar]!has[draft.of]]" 
> variable="listItem"><$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> 
> text="hide"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>
>
>
>
> for this chunk
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[noedit]]"> <$list 
>> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewToolbar]!has[draft.of]] 
>> -[[$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit]]" variable="listItem"><$reveal type="nomatch" 
>> state=<> text="hide"><$transclude 
>> tiddler=<>/>  <$list 
>> filter="[all[current]!tag[noedit]]"> <$list 
>> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewToolbar]!has[draft.of]]" 
>> variable="listItem"><$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> 
>> text="hide"><$transclude tiddler=<>/> 
>>
>
> And then tag tiddlers "noedit" to hide their edit control. Obviously, make 
> sure you back up your work first.
>
> The longer instructions explain how I would go about doing this from 
> scratch. Please let me know if you find a mistake.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 3:37:53 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Can someone please help me take the final step here, to somehow only hide 
> or move to more, the edit button in the tool bar, and not in its other uses 
> within my tiddler?
>
> Or should I clone the edit tiddler button and use that in the tiddlers and 
> Sub Tiddlers?
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:25:48 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
> Thanks Eric,
>
>
> That is most of the way, the toggle hides the image (rather than the 
> button) so I am left with a small circle (perhaps because I choose the 
> buttons with boarders) that looks like this 
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Which actually would be fine, except I use the Edit Image in the "locked" 
> tiddlers to allow edit of its sub-tiddlers.
>
>
>
>
> 
> So using this Hide Button Image I loose these buttons visibility as well.
>
>
> I have also ensured a checkbox toggle of the noedit tag is available in 
> "locked" tiddlers, as I am only trying to obscure not disable edit.
>
>
> This is however a great start and I will go from here unless you know 
> another approach?
>
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 10:04:31 AM UTC+10, Eric Shulman wrote:
> On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 4:42:53 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
> It is the CSS I do not know how to do it. Selective is the key. Thanks for 
> validating the approach, but I do not know how to start.
>
>
>
>
> 1) create a tiddler, e.g [[noedit_stylesheet]], tagged with 
> $:/tags/Stylesheet, containing:
>
> .tc-tagged-noedit .tc-image-edit-button { display:none; }
>
> 2) edit any desired tiddler, add the tag "noedit", press "done" (the 
> checkmark button)
>
>
> Note: after you add the tag and press done, you won't be able to edit that 
> tiddler anymore, so you won't be able to remove the tag you just added. To 
> edit "locked" tiddlers, you will need to disable the stylesheet definition 
> (by removing the $:/tags/Stylesheet tag from the stylesheet definition 
> tiddler). Here's a quick checkbox that will toggle the stylesheet tag for 
> you:
>
>
>
> <$checkbox tiddler="noedit_stylesheet" tag="$:/tags/Stylesheet"> toggle 
> "noedit" 
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools.com - "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: working with "original" shadow tiddler

[BJ]

unfortunately it does not work! The filter is pulling the unshadow tiddler 
out or the store.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 9:04:46 PM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:
>
> If I replace "fields[]" with "tags[]" in your example, I get the 
> override's tags. Is "fields[]" the only possible filter following 
> "plugin[]title[]"?
>
> Not complaining nor requesting anything, just want to know what's 
> possible, and it's not apparent to me from the source code. Thanks!
>
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 9:38:30 AM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>>
>> I've put it here:
>>
>> http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> enjoy!
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 2:51:33 AM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:
>>>
>>> So, you have an operator "plugin", that replaces the overriding tiddler 
>>> with the original shadow tiddler, for the scope of the filter run??? This 
>>> belongs in the core! Please do share. Thanks. :)
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:36:48 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote:

 I dont think there is a way to do that.

 I have an extension that I use for this it has the syntax:

 <$set name="plugintiddler" value="$:/plugins/bj/struc">
 <$list filter = 
 "[plugintitle[$:/plugins/bj/struc/license]fields[]]">

 <$view tiddler=<> 
 subtiddler="$:/plugins/bj/struc/license" field=<> 
 format="text"/> 
 
 



 I could share it if you like...



 On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 6:49:26 AM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:
>
> Yes, that's what I'm doing. That's how I can display any field if I 
> know it's name. I can transclude it using the subtiddler option and the 
> field option. I'm looking for the next step - to display all the fields, 
> without knowing their names. With a standard tiddler, I would use a 
> fields[] filter operator for that. But there is no way to do it for a 
> subtiddler.
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:00:29 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>>
>> you can use the subtiddler option with the transclusion widget
>>
>> BJ
>>
>> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:10:26 AM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:
>>>
>>> Not see for myself, but *display*.
>>>
>>> I already got to the point where I can display each field of the 
>>> original by name, explicitly. What I'm looking for is a filter to list 
>>> all 
>>> fields of the tiddler that is inside `[shadowsource[]]`. 
>>>
>>> -R.
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 4:51:12 PM UTC-7, PMario wrote:

 On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:09:48 AM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:
>
> When I have a tiddler overriding a shadow, how can I display the 
> original shadow tiddler as defined in a plugin, including all it's 
> fields?
>

 Just rename the "new" tiddler and the shadow will come back.  
 back and forth. 

 -m

>>>
>>>
>
>>>
>

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[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao c pa

I wrote ...

> >>START a TiddlyWikiNewbie that contains ONLY info for beginners
>
 
c pa replied: 

> Because TiddlyWiki is such a complex and functional product, making a 
> distinction between newbie and "not newbie" questions is very hard ...
>

I agree IF the newbie is a "customiser". Then they are on the road to 
becoming a DIY addict like US--and need to go through the hell of it.

*I was thinking more* that most "newbies" are just looking for an ALREADY 
MADE SOLUTION. 

I think its the weakest area of TiddlyWiki is that the main thing we 
communicate to people is:  "its wonderful BUT complicated". 

How about, instead? "HERE IS THE SCREENPLAY MAKER" & "THERE IS THE 
BRILLIANT GTD SYSTEM"?

I think there is a *BIG need for a Newbie Section* to deliver then FORMED 
APPLICATIONS. I think we are alienating users as we currently do it. Just 
MO.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Arlen

One of the pains with StackExchange is the hoops you have to go through. I 
thought I voted already? Now I have to do it AGAIN? This process is slower 
than a snail with a heavy weight on its back :-).

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: Best "equal" operator?

[Mat]

A special use case of the above, for reference:

The following is to distinguish if a field has a *specific *value or *any 
other arbitrary* value (ie. that you don't know beforehand).

In this example, it is a field named "myfield" that has either the specific 
value foo or an arbitrary value.

<$list filter="[[mytiddler]myfield[foo]]"> value is foo 
<$list filter="[[mytiddler]get[myfield]] -foo"> value is not foo 

(You might want to add checks if the field exists at all etc)

In my real case, I use it as a way to distinguish between if something is a 
tag (specific value is tag) or a field (any arbitrary name).

I figure this was worth posting because of the non-symmetry that makes it 
less than obvious. If Mark S' PR 
 is accepted then this 
would be simpler and symmetrical.


<:-)

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[tw] Re: Can we have some threads in GERMAN?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao BJ

Just a footnote on the linguistic irony that the phrase "lingua franca" is 
a mixed polyglot of medieval Mediterranean origin.

J.

BJ wrote:
>
> English is the lingua franca
>

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[tw] Re: Can we have some threads in GERMAN?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao tutti,

Very interesting posts. Moderate & understandable. 

Shows more interest in the language issue than I thought would be the case.

ONE point I'd like to make is that *IF your first language is not English 
then it can be a burden to cope with it*. Not everyone gets on well with a 
second language. I, for instance, despite living Italy a long time, can't 
say I can speak or write the language well. In my native English I can do 
anything. It Italian I can just about order a Carbonara. 

I think its significant the French TWikiers have a viable French forum. The 
French value their own language a lot (that is more than a cliche).

My interest in German, or, rather, the German speakers, is that they are 
HIGHLY important for TiddlyWiki. There are a LOT of them. Maybe more 
significant than English speakers? 

Anyway, I'm glad I started this thread. Even though it can't be my task to 
solve it.

Best wishes
Josiah


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[tw] Howto cancel drop-action based on actionTiddler field?

[Niels Bjerre]

I want to *go-ahead or cancel* drop-action based on a field-value in the 
tiddler dropped (actionTiddler)

<$droppable actions=<>>..<$droppable>
in droppable-actions i have a <$*reveal* type="match" *state*= 
value="yyy">
In state=.. i have a problem referring to $(actionTiddler)$!!field

Any tip is much appreciated!

Niels

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[tw] Re: Can we have some threads in GERMAN?

[BJ]

English is the lingua franca, so I think it would be best to keep the main 
forum in English. There is already a French language forum that is popular:
https://forum.tiddlywiki.fr/ so maybe there could be one for German 
speakers?


On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 8:09:57 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Can we have some threads in GERMAN?
>
> I'd like that. There are several prominent German speakers here. I could 
> just about cope. Not sure i could reply coherently. But I'd attempt it.
>
> IS TIDDLYWIKI discussion doomed to English? 
>
> German has GREAT facility to create CONCEPTS. 
>
> TiddlyWiki is such a strange thing it needs new concepts. German could 
> help.
>
> Thoughts from the off-hours side  
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah 
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: "Missing Tidler" Font and Color

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Aaron,

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:22:18 PM UTC+2, Aaron Haslem wrote:
>
> Is there a way to change the default font and color of "Missing Tiddler" 
> Links.  I like that I can create a tiddler link in text and then go back to 
> it and create the Tiddler.  But I would like the links to stand out more.  
> Currently both active and missing links are Blue Font, missing links are 
> italics.  How do I change this default behavior?
>
>
Right click on the missing link and choose inspect element.
You will see the CSS class i:

a.tc-tiddlylink-missing


Create a tiddler tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet and containing something 
like:

a.tc-tiddlylink-missing {
 font-weight: bold;
 color: purple;
}

Adjust to yor liking.

Cheers,

Ton 

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[tw] Re: Filters not consistently catching images

[kodomohimari]

... Well, actually, I just tried again with the same files (including one of 
the file I knew to not be caught by the filters) and it worked fine. I can't 
reproduce the error, every image lands where it ought to.

I think I rebooted the server a couple times since last post, so I'm going to 
assume it was just a weird issue of filter propagation or something. For the 
time being, problem solved (probably by rebooting).

Thanks for looking into this.

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[tw] Re: Filters not consistently catching images

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Obvious question but are you sure they all have a value for the type field?

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 7:07:11 AM UTC+10, kodomohimari wrote:
>
> Soo, started experimenting with my installation (TiddlyWiki on NodeJS on a 
> Raspberry Pi accessible through its external IP). Since I work with images 
> a lot, I decided to try setting a filter up to have their tiddlers exist 
> within a single folder (instead of all over the place) using this concept: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming.
>
> My code for the file named "$:/config/FileSystemPaths" is below:
>
> [type[image/jpg]addprefix[images/]]
> [type[image/jpeg]addprefix[images/]]
> [type[image/png]addprefix[images/]]
> [type[image/gif]addprefix[images/]]
> [type[image/x-icon]addprefix[images/]]
> [type[image/svg+xml]addprefix[images/]]
>
> It works... but only partially, which is unnerving. Some .JPG images 
> apparently aren't caught in the filter at all upon importing, and their 
> files and metadata land in the tiddlers/ folder (instead of tiddlers/image/ 
> folder). I'm not sure what makes them different from the other images that 
> do get caught in the filter (regardless of whether they're caught, they do 
> appear as image/jpeg when examined through TiddlyWiki).
>
> Is there any known reason why the filters might fail for some images, but 
> not for others?
>
> (Just for the sake of data: one image that doesn't trip the filter is 
> called IMG_0650.JPG, another that does trip it is called IMG_0637.JPG - so 
> as far as I can tell this isn't just a matter of filename.)
>
> As a sidenote, is there any way to apply filters retroactively? For 
> instance, if I create a tag called "map" and apply to a bunch of already 
> imported images (or even just tiddlers), can I then apply a filter to move 
> the tiddlers with that tag to a tiddlers/map/ folder?
>
>

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[tw] Re: Can we have some threads in GERMAN?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Guten Tag allerseits :–)

I fee EXACTLY like Jan. 

I see great potential in promoting TW in more languages – there are many 
translations available. If this would be successful we could decide later if 
arising needs are best discussed in new groups or on stackexchange. 

Herzliche Grüsse
Thomas 

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