date:20180606

Hi @mgrbl 

I'm using TiddlyDesktop on linux, too
Do you have libgconf installed? sudo apt update; sudo apt install 
libgconf-2-4 (... in a terminal)
I tried uninstalling it on my system and got the same error message.

We should add it as a dependency in the TiddlyDesktop Readme

BurningTreeC

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[tw5] TiddlyDesktop - can't open nw

2018-06-06 Thread mgrbl

I'm having some trouble installing TiddlyDesktop on Ubuntu 18.04:
- downloaded latest release tiddlydesktop-linux64-v0.0.13.zip from 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases
- unzipped the file
- can't open "nw" from file mngr: Could not display "nw". There is no 
application installed for "shared library" files.
- can't run "./nw" from terminal either: No such file or directory.

tried many possible solutions suggested in this group and ubuntu/linux 
groups, w/o any luck.

pretty new to linux/ubuntu, so I might just be missing the obvious here...

all tips welcome, thx!

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[tw5] Re: Migration from TWC to TW5

2018-06-06 Thread Reto


>
> This is what I plan to do: import my TWC function tiddlers into a TW5, 
> upgrade the tiddlers. Then check what TW5 does with my TWC functionality. I 
> guess it will be marked some way. This are the gaps then. Then try find a 
> way how I can include TW5 functions into TWC tiddlers in a way that is 
> ignored by TWC. In this way I can repeat the cycle until I am done.
>

I think I found a way: in TWC I can use this syntax to hide content:

/%`TODO TW5`%/

 In TW5 this is rendered. That means I can include TW5 "code" inside /% ... 
%/.

On the other side TW5 ignores macro calls and transcluded tiddlers in TWC 
style: something like "<>" ist simply ignored.

This allows me to mark things in tiddlers and even to include TW5 code 
which is ignored in TWC.

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[tw5] Re: Active Button - Inactive Button

More info:

Take a look 
at: https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_button_disabled





Click Me!




This is what I mean, but I dont now how to implement it with TW button 
widget.


assas

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:32:51 AM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> The real application here I want is in Navigation
> I have put a Next / Previous button to navigate among a list of tiddlers 
> tagged with learning. 
> I click the Next/Previous and navigate through tiddlers like what in 
> WizardWizard (http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/WizardWizard/)
> When I reach the last tiddler, I want to have the Next button visible but 
> grayed out (inactive).
>
> In your solution, button is visible and active but do nothing, user does 
> not understand if this is the last tiddler or some error is happened 
>
>
> So in brief, I want to have the button visible but when the condition does 
> not meet, the button grayed out.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:16:58 AM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> It depends what you really wanted to do. If you want the button to appear 
>> if the *current *tiddler is tagged "learning", then
>> in the example, add filter operator "all[current]". e.g. 
>> "[all[current]tag[learning]]" 
>>
>> If you wanted the button to appear if there is a tiddler tagged 
>> "learning" *anywhere *in your set, then just limit the filter with the 
>> *limit 
>> *filter operator. You can even use the "emptyMessage" attribute to 
>> generate the non-functioning button, so you only need one <$list>. e.g.
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[learning]limit[1]]" emptyMessage="<$button>This 
>> button is fake"
>> >
>> <$button>This button is real
>> 
>>
>> Good luck
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:08:18 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>  If I am right when the Button is put inside list widget it should be 
>>> created as many times as list iterate
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
>>> <$button>Hi there
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> In the other case nothing is shown
>>>
>>> I appreciate if clarify this.
>>>
>>> /Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 3:05:58 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:

 Mohammad,

 Yes it is very possible, and there is more.

 You can clone and edit existing buttons if you want, then edit the 
 transclusions for your own hints and captions, then duplicate the button 
 and have one display in one condition, and the other in another.

 <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
 Button tag learning
 
 *<$list filter"[!tag[learning]]">*
 Not active Button (No actions, gray)
 

 Under this method you choose if this is displayed on tiddlers, or 
 behind the more of the tiddler toolbar.

 You could wrap both in another list filter and actually choose that no 
 button is shown in certain conditions.

 Regards
 Tony

 On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:26:28 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Is it possible to have a button active for some conditions and 
> inactive for some other conditions?
> I don't mean to hide the button. The inactive button can be grayed 
> out and does not react on mouse click!
>
> For example, consider a list as below
>
> 
> <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
> <>
> 
> 
>
> I wrap this code into a *button widget*, I want to have the button 
> grayed out when there is no tiddler tagged with learning!
>
>
> If you can give a simple example, I appreciate to have that.
>
>
> Best
> Mohammad
>


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[tw5] Re: Active Button - Inactive Button

Mark,

The real application here I want is in Navigation
I have put a Next / Previous button to navigate among a list of tiddlers 
tagged with learning. 
I click the Next/Previous and navigate through tiddlers like what in 
WizardWizard (http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/WizardWizard/)
When I reach the last tiddler, I want to have the Next button visible but 
grayed out (inactive).

In your solution, button is visible and active but do nothing, user does 
not understand if this is the last tiddler or some error is happened 


So in brief, I want to have the button visible but when the condition does 
not meet, the button grayed out.


Cheers
Mohammad





On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:16:58 AM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It depends what you really wanted to do. If you want the button to appear 
> if the *current *tiddler is tagged "learning", then
> in the example, add filter operator "all[current]". e.g. 
> "[all[current]tag[learning]]" 
>
> If you wanted the button to appear if there is a tiddler tagged "learning" 
> *anywhere 
> *in your set, then just limit the filter with the *limit *filter 
> operator. You can even use the "emptyMessage" attribute to generate the 
> non-functioning button, so you only need one <$list>. e.g.
>
> <$list filter="[tag[learning]limit[1]]" emptyMessage="<$button>This button 
> is fake"
> >
> <$button>This button is real
> 
>
> Good luck
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:08:18 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>  If I am right when the Button is put inside list widget it should be 
>> created as many times as list iterate
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
>> <$button>Hi there
>> 
>> 
>>
>> In the other case nothing is shown
>>
>> I appreciate if clarify this.
>>
>> /Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 3:05:58 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>>
>>> Yes it is very possible, and there is more.
>>>
>>> You can clone and edit existing buttons if you want, then edit the 
>>> transclusions for your own hints and captions, then duplicate the button 
>>> and have one display in one condition, and the other in another.
>>>
>>> <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
>>> Button tag learning
>>> 
>>> *<$list filter"[!tag[learning]]">*
>>> Not active Button (No actions, gray)
>>> 
>>>
>>> Under this method you choose if this is displayed on tiddlers, or behind 
>>> the more of the tiddler toolbar.
>>>
>>> You could wrap both in another list filter and actually choose that no 
>>> button is shown in certain conditions.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:26:28 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:

 Is it possible to have a button active for some conditions and inactive 
 for some other conditions?
 I don't mean to hide the button. The inactive button can be grayed out 
 and does not react on mouse click!

 For example, consider a list as below

 
 <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
 <>
 
 

 I wrap this code into a *button widget*, I want to have the button 
 grayed out when there is no tiddler tagged with learning!


 If you can give a simple example, I appreciate to have that.


 Best
 Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Active Button - Inactive Button

2018-06-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

It depends what you really wanted to do. If you want the button to appear 
if the *current *tiddler is tagged "learning", then
in the example, add filter operator "all[current]". e.g. 
"[all[current]tag[learning]]" 

If you wanted the button to appear if there is a tiddler tagged "learning" 
*anywhere 
*in your set, then just limit the filter with the *limit *filter operator. 
You can even use the "emptyMessage" attribute to generate the 
non-functioning button, so you only need one <$list>. e.g.

<$list filter="[tag[learning]limit[1]]" emptyMessage="<$button>This button 
is fake"
>
<$button>This button is real


Good luck
-- Mark


On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:08:18 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>  If I am right when the Button is put inside list widget it should be 
> created as many times as list iterate
>
> <$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
> <$button>Hi there
> 
> 
>
> In the other case nothing is shown
>
> I appreciate if clarify this.
>
> /Mohammad
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 3:05:58 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>>
>> Yes it is very possible, and there is more.
>>
>> You can clone and edit existing buttons if you want, then edit the 
>> transclusions for your own hints and captions, then duplicate the button 
>> and have one display in one condition, and the other in another.
>>
>> <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
>> Button tag learning
>> 
>> *<$list filter"[!tag[learning]]">*
>> Not active Button (No actions, gray)
>> 
>>
>> Under this method you choose if this is displayed on tiddlers, or behind 
>> the more of the tiddler toolbar.
>>
>> You could wrap both in another list filter and actually choose that no 
>> button is shown in certain conditions.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:26:28 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to have a button active for some conditions and inactive 
>>> for some other conditions?
>>> I don't mean to hide the button. The inactive button can be grayed out 
>>> and does not react on mouse click!
>>>
>>> For example, consider a list as below
>>>
>>> 
>>> <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> I wrap this code into a *button widget*, I want to have the button 
>>> grayed out when there is no tiddler tagged with learning!
>>>
>>>
>>> If you can give a simple example, I appreciate to have that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Active Button - Inactive Button

Hi Tony,
 If I am right when the Button is put inside list widget it should be 
created as many times as list iterate

<$list filter="[tag[learning]]">
<$button>Hi there



In the other case nothing is shown

I appreciate if clarify this.

/Mohammad



On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 3:05:58 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> Yes it is very possible, and there is more.
>
> You can clone and edit existing buttons if you want, then edit the 
> transclusions for your own hints and captions, then duplicate the button 
> and have one display in one condition, and the other in another.
>
> <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
> Button tag learning
> 
> *<$list filter"[!tag[learning]]">*
> Not active Button (No actions, gray)
> 
>
> Under this method you choose if this is displayed on tiddlers, or behind 
> the more of the tiddler toolbar.
>
> You could wrap both in another list filter and actually choose that no 
> button is shown in certain conditions.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:26:28 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible to have a button active for some conditions and inactive 
>> for some other conditions?
>> I don't mean to hide the button. The inactive button can be grayed out 
>> and does not react on mouse click!
>>
>> For example, consider a list as below
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> I wrap this code into a *button widget*, I want to have the button 
>> grayed out when there is no tiddler tagged with learning!
>>
>>
>> If you can give a simple example, I appreciate to have that.
>>
>>
>> Best
>> Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Solution - Displaying large lists in multiple columns

Hi Tony,
 This is a demo show overflow!

http://tiddlyfor.tiddlyspot.com/#Tony-Multicolumn-Lists

/Mohammad

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 3:45:24 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I cant see this over flow, please demonstrate.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 12:53:27 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> One more suggestion:
>>  It seems the result overflow the border of tiddler! May be fixing the 
>> max size and take care of tiddler width.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 6:35:39 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I was keen to resolve an issue displaying large lists of tiddlers etc.. 
>>> in TiddlyWiki, they tend to be readable only if there is one item per row, 
>>> making the result demand a lot of scrolling.
>>>
>>> I just found this solution and decided to share it.
>>>
>>> Create a tiddler by any name
>>>
>>> include this
>>> .grid-container-5cols {
>>>   display: grid;
>>>   grid-template-columns: auto auto auto auto auto;
>>>   grid-gap: 5px;
>>>   background-color: #2196F3;
>>>   padding: 10px;
>>> }
>>> .grid-container-5cols > div {
>>>   background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.8);
>>>   text-align: center;
>>>   padding: 5px 0;
>>>   font-size: 16px;
>>> }
>>> Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet
>>>
>>> Now in any list process you can do this as an example
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]]">
>>> <$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  and what ever the number of items they will be organised into 5 columns
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW in Public -- "Tomb Of Horrors" (#gaming #campaingn)

2018-06-06 Thread barrowgloom

Excellent, many thanks.  I'll be sure to ask if I have questions.  It may 
be a bit before I get to it-- as I'm learning TW I'm also building a 
"world" wiki from 30 years worth of material, so I've been busy.  Also 
thanks for the distinction abot Tomb opf Horro being someone else's 
creation-- will save me from the mistake of assumptions : )

On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 5:07:53 AM UTC-4, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Barrow,
> There are no restictions, I am happy if you use the editor in 
> roguelike.tiddlyspot.com.
> I hope it is explaining itself well enough, otherwise I could help.
>  (I did not do Tomb of Horror this was a study project for Steve).
>
> Yours Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 04.06.2018 um 04:11 schrieb barro...@gmail.com :
>
> Jan,
>
> Definitely interested in your work and other rpg based uses of TW.  Any 
> restrictions on use of your work?  Time allowing, I will be seeing how far 
> I can take TW for RPG as well as video game (which also uses RPG framework) 
> development.  TW's json capacity meshes well with Unreal Engine's json 
> import ability.
>
> Tomb of Horror is the breakthrough for TW in the RPG community-- once 
> someone starts using something new then others will take notice.
>
> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 3:56:43 AM UTC-4, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hi,
>> RPG-fans might be interested in this dungeon-mechanism I did a year ago...
>> A proof of concept of concept which comes with a dungeon-editor...
>> http://roguelike.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
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[tw5] Re: Hashover

2018-06-06 Thread Jed Carty

We changed our host and I believe that switching to using https broke the 
setup. I am not sure what needs to be changed to make it work again and I 
am in the US and won't be able to do much with it until I get home.

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[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

oops,

I did not have TiddlyViewer installed in my test wiki, this now opens from 
the button, however still comes with the SideBar etc

Certainly an improvement. But now we need the tingle tiddler content view.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 11:20:19 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mat, Sleep
>
> Another day, 
>
> This is opening the wiki and the tiddler in that wiki with the sidebar 
> tabs etc, not like Open in window on the actual tiddler 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators
>
> Also it is not set to width=100% thus I get scrollbars.
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:47:49 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>>
>> I ought to either focus on other stuff or sleep now... but since I'm 
>> doing neither I might just as well tiddlefiddle, so...
>>
>> Not quite sure this is what you want but maybe a step on the way. First 
>> is a button for the page controls:
>>
>> title: thebutton
>> tags: $:/tags/PageControls
>> text:
>> <$button message="tm-open-window" param="filteroperators" class=
>> "tc-btn-invisible">
>> {{$:/core/images/open-window}}
>> 
>>
>> ...and here's the iframe thingy or object-frame or whatever it's called. 
>> An iframe probably works as well.
>> title:filteroperators
>> text:
>> 
>>
>>
>> Another idea would be to introduce a new sidebar tab showing the iframe. 
>> Unless you have a huge screen, the sidebar is probably too narrow but the 
>> iframe could simply overflow horizontally (spilling over the story river) 
>> and it could probably be styled so that the z-index makes it come to front 
>> when hovered and otherwise is in back with overflow-x:hidden 
>>
>> Apropos using iframes as a form of TW federation; I'll dig up my old 
>> notes and experiments when I have time for it. It is really interesting 
>> but, if I recall, just a bit too limited. Of note: the source url for the 
>> iframe can contain a filter. So you can for example have the iframe open 
>> all tiddlers tagged @Tony, and sorted by modified.
>>
>>
>> <:-)
>>
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[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

Mat, Sleep

Another day, 

This is opening the wiki and the tiddler in that wiki with the sidebar tabs 
etc, not like Open in window on the actual tiddler 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators

Also it is not set to width=100% thus I get scrollbars.


Regards
Tony


On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:47:49 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> I ought to either focus on other stuff or sleep now... but since I'm doing 
> neither I might just as well tiddlefiddle, so...
>
> Not quite sure this is what you want but maybe a step on the way. First is 
> a button for the page controls:
>
> title: thebutton
> tags: $:/tags/PageControls
> text:
> <$button message="tm-open-window" param="filteroperators" class=
> "tc-btn-invisible">
> {{$:/core/images/open-window}}
> 
>
> ...and here's the iframe thingy or object-frame or whatever it's called. 
> An iframe probably works as well.
> title:filteroperators
> text:
>  class='tc-tiddly-viewer'>
>
>
> Another idea would be to introduce a new sidebar tab showing the iframe. 
> Unless you have a huge screen, the sidebar is probably too narrow but the 
> iframe could simply overflow horizontally (spilling over the story river) 
> and it could probably be styled so that the z-index makes it come to front 
> when hovered and otherwise is in back with overflow-x:hidden 
>
> Apropos using iframes as a form of TW federation; I'll dig up my old notes 
> and experiments when I have time for it. It is really interesting but, if I 
> recall, just a bit too limited. Of note: the source url for the iframe can 
> contain a filter. So you can for example have the iframe open all tiddlers 
> tagged @Tony, and sorted by modified.
>
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Bob - options for remembering users?

Stobot,

Sorry my HTML skills are not strong enough to answer you  question. 
If you could get this inside a button you could use the action widget to 
save the wiki after the user ID is entered, what if you turn off 
auto-saving to see?
I notice that at https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-set-password 
password is associated with encryption so I expect that may trigger a save. 
This may have the effect of making the wiki a single user wiki, unless they 
have the same encryption password.

Before you pointed out the form I was building my own user model without 
passwords (yet) to remember prior users and check on start.

Still more learning to do.

Tony

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:37:00 AM UTC+10, Stobot wrote:
>
> This is pretty close, though to your point Tony it's tied to the ip 
> address... It allows me to save the login (only after using the Submit 
> button), it automatically retrieves it automatically. The only problem is I 
> get the message like I'm trying to leave the page... Is there any html I 
> can add to the  or the button to pre-cancel whatever action is 
> causing this?
>
> 
> Username: <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/username" tag="input" default=""/>
> Password: <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/password" type="password" 
> tag="input"/>
> <$button type="submit">Submit
> 
>
> So close!
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SetUp - a guide to set up a great TW system

Yakov,

It is fine of course for us to disagree, personally I have been deeply 
involved in both versions, I think both have their idiosyncrasies and both 
can take some time to understand deeply. Its it not that I am against TWC, 
but more I am against promoting wholesale two versions, and naturally the 
back version can be de-emphasised for NEW users. All I am talking about is 
a degree of visibility. For example I would not complicate the Setup table 
with the same depth of detail for TWC as combining the two will make it 
almost unreadable for more than 80% of viewers, yes make TWC visible, yes 
make TWC its own table and lets even create a comparison table. The issue 
is both have their own suit of editions and plugins which to a large 
measure, define what each is capable of, so the comparison needs to map 
plugin equivalence to give a true picture, it would be wrong to shoehorn 
all this into one table.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:36:01 AM UTC+10, Yakov wrote:
>
> I don't understand why it's unwise to show both versions to new users. If 
> they feel that TW5 is better, they'll use it, if TWc fits their needs, they 
> can choose it instead. Moreover, I'm planning to attract new users to TWc 
> once it's good enough (I've made a local meetup to present TWc and 
> discussed up-to-date demands with a couple of users and can see some key 
> issues now). What I see wise is to make a dedicated updatable comparison to 
> show differences, advantages and disadvantages of both TW versions to help 
> users make a concious choice, isn't it? (including limitations of both TWc 
> and TW5 which are not frequently discussed, like SEO problems, load time, 
> performance issues etc) I can see no reason to hide the legacy (aside 
> additional efforts required for creating the full matrix).
>
> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
> четверг, 7 июня 2018 г., 1:53:30 UTC+3 пользователь TonyM написал:
>>
>> Yakov,
>>
>> We should not abandon TWC, and it should be mentioned in the TW5 table to 
>> indicate the cross compatibility of hosting solutions. However I believe 
>> TWC deserves its own matrix, and unwise to suggest to newbys to take that 
>> path, we have job helping new people learn TW5 apart from TWC. Though TWC 
>> should be supported by the community.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony 
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 7:12:17 PM UTC+10, Yakov wrote:
>>>
>>> While information on migration would be useful too, I don't think it's 
>>> unwise to show the TWc ecosystem (strictly speaking, its maintainance grew 
>>> this year considerably with one new version and MainTiddlyServer 
>>>  already released, and I 
>>> have plans for more) and diminishing user-base may be a self-fulfilling 
>>> forecast in this context (actually, those who join 
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikiclassic sometimes say 
>>> that "wow, I was not aware of this group and new released stuff" although 
>>> the link is pinned on top in TiddlyWiki group). TWc still has some 
>>> advantages (like smaller size, simpler plugin development process, no 
>>> mobile-first-desktop-never desease and others) so it may have its own niche.
>>>
>>> I can certainly help with gathering information (or mostly sharing 
>>> already gathered info) and I think that the
>>>
>>> introduce TWC as a qualifying filter before the "Saver, Server, Service, 
 Manager"

>>>
>>> approach would be much nicer (otherwise things link MainTiddlyServer 
>>> won't get a spot in the matrix at all). But it's up to you of'course.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yakov.
>>>
>>> среда, 6 июня 2018 г., 4:28:10 UTC+3 пользователь TonyM написал:

 Mat,

 Whilst it would be nice to do this with TWC its options are very 
 limited compared to TW5 (although there are still many) perhaps instead 
 flag TWC in so far as does the "method" also support TWC as does 
 TiddlyDesktop but redirect others to the TWC Discussion thread and 
 information on Migration. I have just contributed to a thread on this here 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/L3p321qp7EU

 The truth is the future is with TW5 and although existing TWC users may 
 benefit from this information, I think it unwise to promote TWC as an 
 answer to someone entering the TW universe, for its reduced maintenance, 
 reduced futures and diminishing user base.

 Further, I love your work here, I wanted to do something similar but 
 are glad you have "taken this by the reigns", I plan to provide a 
 community 
 resource and Expect this reference work will be key.

 Thanks
 Tony

 On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 2:29:17 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> Guys, just quickly; I have been, and will continue to be, busy for a 
> few more days so difficult to work on this at the moment.
>
> But, regarding TWC on SetUp - sure, why not, if I can get some help if

[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

2018-06-06 Thread Mat

I ought to either focus on other stuff or sleep now... but since I'm doing
neither I might just as well tiddlefiddle, so...

Not quite sure this is what you want but maybe a step on the way. First is
a button for the page controls:

title: thebutton
tags: $:/tags/PageControls
text:
<$button message="tm-open-window" param="filteroperators" class=
"tc-btn-invisible">
{{$:/core/images/open-window}}

...and here's the iframe thingy or object-frame or whatever it's called. An
iframe probably works as well.
title:filteroperators
text:

Another idea would be to introduce a new sidebar tab showing the iframe.
Unless you have a huge screen, the sidebar is probably too narrow but the
iframe could simply overflow horizontally (spilling over the story river)
and it could probably be styled so that the z-index makes it come to front
when hovered and otherwise is in back with overflow-x:hidden

Apropos using iframes as a form of TW federation; I'll dig up my old notes
and experiments when I have time for it. It is really interesting but, if I
recall, just a bit too limited. Of note: the source url for the iframe can
contain a filter. So you can for example have the iframe open all tiddlers
tagged @Tony, and sorted by modified.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Bob - options for remembering users?

This is pretty close, though to your point Tony it's tied to the ip 
address... It allows me to save the login (only after using the Submit 
button), it automatically retrieves it automatically. The only problem is I 
get the message like I'm trying to leave the page... Is there any html I 
can add to the  or the button to pre-cancel whatever action is 
causing this?


Username: <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/username" tag="input" default=""/>
Password: <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/password" type="password" 
tag="input"/>
<$button type="submit">Submit


So close!

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[tw5] Re: Bob - options for remembering users?

May be an obvious question, but does the <$password> widget help at all? 
The documentation on TiddlyWiki.com doesn't seem very complete / have 
examples...

Introduction

The password widget displays a password input box that is bound to a named 
entry in the TiddlyWiki5  PasswordVault 
. Passwords are currently stored in 
the browsers local storage and are not themselves encrypted.
Content and Attributes

The content of the <$password> widget is ignored.
AttributeDescription
name Name of the password vault entry

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[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

Let me clarify, I was responding to you which led me off topic a little.

Use $:/plugins/ajh/tiddlyviewer Create a tiddler and set the tiddly field 
to https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM and the tiddler displays 
the tool map nicely.

On the original subject you can do the same with a TiddlyWiki, however you 
cant open an external tiddler in a new window unless you use new window 
button on the external wiki.

I would like to provide an external wikis specific tiddler permalink, to 
the open in new window button in the current TiddlyWiki and have it open in 
its own window. I understand this will need to "load" the whole external 
wiki to achieve this but that is OK.

eg;

   - Go to https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators
   - Under the more option select Open in New Window
   - What you see is what I want a single link/button for in My Current 
   Wiki, 

I see no reason yet why this could not be.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 8:49:39 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Tony
>
> I was wondering more how this would be with iframes. I thought that was 
> the theme of the discussion?
>
> Best
> Josiah
>
> On Thursday, 7 June 2018 00:26:40 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Josiah,
>>
>> Actually using https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM to the 
>> tool map is great, you can search in the window or over the whole page 
>> including that in the window with ctrl-f
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony 
>>
>> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:03:02 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> For example, cloning Dave's TiddlyToolmap into a searchable TW that 
>>> iframe's the results.
>>>
>>> TonyM wrote:

 Not so sure what you mean by "setup resource bases"

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SetUp - a guide to set up a great TW system

2018-06-06 Thread Yakov

I don't understand why it's unwise to show both versions to new users. If 
they feel that TW5 is better, they'll use it, if TWc fits their needs, they 
can choose it instead. Moreover, I'm planning to attract new users to TWc 
once it's good enough (I've made a local meetup to present TWc and 
discussed up-to-date demands with a couple of users and can see some key 
issues now). What I see wise is to make a dedicated updatable comparison to 
show differences, advantages and disadvantages of both TW versions to help 
users make a concious choice, isn't it? (including limitations of both TWc 
and TW5 which are not frequently discussed, like SEO problems, load time, 
performance issues etc) I can see no reason to hide the legacy (aside 
additional efforts required for creating the full matrix).

Best regards,
Yakov.

четверг, 7 июня 2018 г., 1:53:30 UTC+3 пользователь TonyM написал:
>
> Yakov,
>
> We should not abandon TWC, and it should be mentioned in the TW5 table to 
> indicate the cross compatibility of hosting solutions. However I believe 
> TWC deserves its own matrix, and unwise to suggest to newbys to take that 
> path, we have job helping new people learn TW5 apart from TWC. Though TWC 
> should be supported by the community.
>
> Regards
> Tony 
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 7:12:17 PM UTC+10, Yakov wrote:
>>
>> While information on migration would be useful too, I don't think it's 
>> unwise to show the TWc ecosystem (strictly speaking, its maintainance grew 
>> this year considerably with one new version and MainTiddlyServer 
>>  already released, and I 
>> have plans for more) and diminishing user-base may be a self-fulfilling 
>> forecast in this context (actually, those who join 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikiclassic sometimes say 
>> that "wow, I was not aware of this group and new released stuff" although 
>> the link is pinned on top in TiddlyWiki group). TWc still has some 
>> advantages (like smaller size, simpler plugin development process, no 
>> mobile-first-desktop-never desease and others) so it may have its own niche.
>>
>> I can certainly help with gathering information (or mostly sharing 
>> already gathered info) and I think that the
>>
>> introduce TWC as a qualifying filter before the "Saver, Server, Service, 
>>> Manager"
>>>
>>
>> approach would be much nicer (otherwise things link MainTiddlyServer 
>> won't get a spot in the matrix at all). But it's up to you of'course.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yakov.
>>
>> среда, 6 июня 2018 г., 4:28:10 UTC+3 пользователь TonyM написал:
>>>
>>> Mat,
>>>
>>> Whilst it would be nice to do this with TWC its options are very limited 
>>> compared to TW5 (although there are still many) perhaps instead flag TWC in 
>>> so far as does the "method" also support TWC as does TiddlyDesktop but 
>>> redirect others to the TWC Discussion thread and information on Migration. 
>>> I have just contributed to a thread on this here 
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/L3p321qp7EU
>>>
>>> The truth is the future is with TW5 and although existing TWC users may 
>>> benefit from this information, I think it unwise to promote TWC as an 
>>> answer to someone entering the TW universe, for its reduced maintenance, 
>>> reduced futures and diminishing user base.
>>>
>>> Further, I love your work here, I wanted to do something similar but are 
>>> glad you have "taken this by the reigns", I plan to provide a community 
>>> resource and Expect this reference work will be key.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 2:29:17 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:

 Guys, just quickly; I have been, and will continue to be, busy for a 
 few more days so difficult to work on this at the moment.

 But, regarding TWC on SetUp - sure, why not, if I can get some help if 
 it is much work with it. What I mean is; 

 If it is merely a matter of adding TWC as one of the criteria (i.e the 
 top row) then it'd be easy-peasy. That would mean you click a name like 
 "TWC-compatible" and see which SetUps that fulfill this... and from those 
 identified SetUp-rows see what other criteria the respective SetUp 
 features.

 The more ambitious solution would be to introduce TWC as a qualifying 
 filter before the "Saver, Server, Service, Manager" and logically at that 
 level, i.e so that every listed SetUp will have to fulfill TWC and 
 whatever 
 of "Saver, Server etc" that is ticked. This is not difficult to do but a 
 little iffy. However, what I would need help with then is to have others 
 bring in potential SetUps that are TWC specific and, again, the data for 
 them.

 Another thought:
 I think the site would bring more value if it could add more info about 
 individual setups. Obviously, not everything fits in the matrix and even 
 if 
 I've added some comments in the respecti

[tw5] Re: Solution - Displaying large lists in multiple columns

Folks,

An update to divide long lists further.

We can display the first N items using limit, then provide a more button to 
show the Rest,

In many cases this is sufficient rather than managing a page at a time.


<$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]limit[25]]">
<$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}


<$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> text="more">
<$button set=<> setTo="more">More...

<$reveal type="match" state=<> text="more">
<$button set=<> setTo="less">Less

<$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]rest[25]]">
<$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}


 


It could be enhanced by only showing the more/less button if the total 
count is > N

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 12:05:39 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I was keen to resolve an issue displaying large lists of tiddlers etc.. in 
> TiddlyWiki, they tend to be readable only if there is one item per row, 
> making the result demand a lot of scrolling.
>
> I just found this solution and decided to share it.
>
> Create a tiddler by any name
>
> include this
> .grid-container-5cols {
>   display: grid;
>   grid-template-columns: auto auto auto auto auto;
>   grid-gap: 5px;
>   background-color: #2196F3;
>   padding: 10px;
> }
> .grid-container-5cols > div {
>   background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.8);
>   text-align: center;
>   padding: 5px 0;
>   font-size: 16px;
> }
> Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet
>
> Now in any list process you can do this as an example
> 
> <$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]]">
> <$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}
> 
> 
> 
>
>  and what ever the number of items they will be organised into 5 columns
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: Solution - Displaying large lists in multiple columns

Mohammad,

I cant see this over flow, please demonstrate.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 12:53:27 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> One more suggestion:
>  It seems the result overflow the border of tiddler! May be fixing the max 
> size and take care of tiddler width.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 6:35:39 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I was keen to resolve an issue displaying large lists of tiddlers etc.. 
>> in TiddlyWiki, they tend to be readable only if there is one item per row, 
>> making the result demand a lot of scrolling.
>>
>> I just found this solution and decided to share it.
>>
>> Create a tiddler by any name
>>
>> include this
>> .grid-container-5cols {
>>   display: grid;
>>   grid-template-columns: auto auto auto auto auto;
>>   grid-gap: 5px;
>>   background-color: #2196F3;
>>   padding: 10px;
>> }
>> .grid-container-5cols > div {
>>   background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.8);
>>   text-align: center;
>>   padding: 5px 0;
>>   font-size: 16px;
>> }
>> Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet
>>
>> Now in any list process you can do this as an example
>> 
>> <$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]]">
>> <$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  and what ever the number of items they will be organised into 5 columns
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SetUp - a guide to set up a great TW system

Yakov,

We should not abandon TWC, and it should be mentioned in the TW5 table to 
indicate the cross compatibility of hosting solutions. However I believe 
TWC deserves its own matrix, and unwise to suggest to newbys to take that 
path, we have job helping new people learn TW5 apart from TWC. Though TWC 
should be supported by the community.

Regards
Tony 

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 7:12:17 PM UTC+10, Yakov wrote:
>
> While information on migration would be useful too, I don't think it's 
> unwise to show the TWc ecosystem (strictly speaking, its maintainance grew 
> this year considerably with one new version and MainTiddlyServer 
>  already released, and I have 
> plans for more) and diminishing user-base may be a self-fulfilling forecast 
> in this context (actually, those who join 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikiclassic sometimes say 
> that "wow, I was not aware of this group and new released stuff" although 
> the link is pinned on top in TiddlyWiki group). TWc still has some 
> advantages (like smaller size, simpler plugin development process, no 
> mobile-first-desktop-never desease and others) so it may have its own niche.
>
> I can certainly help with gathering information (or mostly sharing already 
> gathered info) and I think that the
>
> introduce TWC as a qualifying filter before the "Saver, Server, Service, 
>> Manager"
>>
>
> approach would be much nicer (otherwise things link MainTiddlyServer won't 
> get a spot in the matrix at all). But it's up to you of'course.
>
> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
> среда, 6 июня 2018 г., 4:28:10 UTC+3 пользователь TonyM написал:
>>
>> Mat,
>>
>> Whilst it would be nice to do this with TWC its options are very limited 
>> compared to TW5 (although there are still many) perhaps instead flag TWC in 
>> so far as does the "method" also support TWC as does TiddlyDesktop but 
>> redirect others to the TWC Discussion thread and information on Migration. 
>> I have just contributed to a thread on this here 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/L3p321qp7EU
>>
>> The truth is the future is with TW5 and although existing TWC users may 
>> benefit from this information, I think it unwise to promote TWC as an 
>> answer to someone entering the TW universe, for its reduced maintenance, 
>> reduced futures and diminishing user base.
>>
>> Further, I love your work here, I wanted to do something similar but are 
>> glad you have "taken this by the reigns", I plan to provide a community 
>> resource and Expect this reference work will be key.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tony
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 2:29:17 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys, just quickly; I have been, and will continue to be, busy for a few 
>>> more days so difficult to work on this at the moment.
>>>
>>> But, regarding TWC on SetUp - sure, why not, if I can get some help if 
>>> it is much work with it. What I mean is; 
>>>
>>> If it is merely a matter of adding TWC as one of the criteria (i.e the 
>>> top row) then it'd be easy-peasy. That would mean you click a name like 
>>> "TWC-compatible" and see which SetUps that fulfill this... and from those 
>>> identified SetUp-rows see what other criteria the respective SetUp features.
>>>
>>> The more ambitious solution would be to introduce TWC as a qualifying 
>>> filter before the "Saver, Server, Service, Manager" and logically at that 
>>> level, i.e so that every listed SetUp will have to fulfill TWC and whatever 
>>> of "Saver, Server etc" that is ticked. This is not difficult to do but a 
>>> little iffy. However, what I would need help with then is to have others 
>>> bring in potential SetUps that are TWC specific and, again, the data for 
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Another thought:
>>> I think the site would bring more value if it could add more info about 
>>> individual setups. Obviously, not everything fits in the matrix and even if 
>>> I've added some comments in the respective SetUp-tiddlers, there is often 
>>> good stuff found in discussions on the boards. So, it would be useful to 
>>> somehow collect data such that can be added. I'm considering accepting 
>>> links to relevant discussions - or if someone other than me curates/refines 
>>> info, then this could be added to the individual setups. (Oh, a project 
>>> like this would be sooo spot-on for TWederation!!!)
>>>
>>>
>>> Again, please note I can't engage much in this for a few days.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

Tony

I was wondering more how this would be with iframes. I thought that was the 
theme of the discussion?

Best
Josiah

On Thursday, 7 June 2018 00:26:40 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Josiah,
>
> Actually using https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM to the tool 
> map is great, you can search in the window or over the whole page including 
> that in the window with ctrl-f
>
> Regards
> Tony 
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:03:02 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> For example, cloning Dave's TiddlyToolmap into a searchable TW that 
>> iframe's the results.
>>
>> TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Not so sure what you mean by "setup resource bases"
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Bob - options for remembering users?

Stobot,

I am working on something similar, happy to collaborate.

The code you provided seems to work somewhat, with lastPass password vault, 
the only problem is since I use Bob or tiddlyServer the host name 
is 127.0.0.1 so it thinks all wikis on my desktop are the same website.

I believe there may be some hosts/DNS tricks to get past this.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:22:02 AM UTC+10, Stobot wrote:
>
> Thanks, I don't have the right background unfortunately but am furiously 
> googling away trying to figure that out. From what I can find most people 
> have the opposite problem (trying to get their inputs to *not* store 
> passwords...). It looks like something like this is what people outside of 
> TiddlyWiki do, not sure how to apply it... Maybe there's some Javascript 
> needed to make the browser offer.
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> I tried to work an <$edit-text .../> to pick this up also and nothing...
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 4:14:37 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Browsers will store passwords. I'm NOT entirely sure what conditions 
>> trigger a browser to offer that they save them. But I think that would be 
>> first approach, to find out *that*.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Active Button - Inactive Button

Mohammad,

Yes it is very possible, and there is more.

You can clone and edit existing buttons if you want, then edit the 
transclusions for your own hints and captions, then duplicate the button 
and have one display in one condition, and the other in another.

<$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
Button tag learning

*<$list filter"[!tag[learning]]">*
Not active Button (No actions, gray)


Under this method you choose if this is displayed on tiddlers, or behind 
the more of the tiddler toolbar.

You could wrap both in another list filter and actually choose that no 
button is shown in certain conditions.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:26:28 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Is it possible to have a button active for some conditions and inactive 
> for some other conditions?
> I don't mean to hide the button. The inactive button can be grayed out 
> and does not react on mouse click!
>
> For example, consider a list as below
>
> 
> <$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
> <>
> 
> 
>
> I wrap this code into a *button widget*, I want to have the button grayed 
> out when there is no tiddler tagged with learning!
>
>
> If you can give a simple example, I appreciate to have that.
>
>
> Best
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

Josiah,

Actually using https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM to the tool 
map is great, you can search in the window or over the whole page including 
that in the window with ctrl-f

Regards
Tony 

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:03:02 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> For example, cloning Dave's TiddlyToolmap into a searchable TW that 
> iframe's the results.
>
> TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Not so sure what you mean by "setup resource bases"
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Solution - Displaying large lists in multiple columns

Mohammad,

I would be nice to see more display options, limits etc.. but I suppose the 
value of this solution is that it helps with indefinitely long lists and is 
very simple to use.

You can of course use the limit[] filter to set the maximum number, but you 
will never see the rest.
[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]limit[25]]

Some type of pagination a "next page" prompt would be nice, once a limit is 
reached, 

There is the count[] filter operator and widget <$count 
filter="[prefix[$:/config]]"/> to determine the number.

Here is my oroginal reference.

https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid_container.asp

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 12:45:35 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thank you Tony!
> Yes, this is a great feature, in a wiki with a lot of tiddlers always 
> listing results in a very long and lengthy tiddler and scrolling back and 
> forth is tedious.
>
> One question: Is it possible to control the number of items through some 
> setting for height?
> One suggestion: I think having this as a macro with some parameters can 
> give more flexibility.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 6:35:39 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I was keen to resolve an issue displaying large lists of tiddlers etc.. 
>> in TiddlyWiki, they tend to be readable only if there is one item per row, 
>> making the result demand a lot of scrolling.
>>
>> I just found this solution and decided to share it.
>>
>> Create a tiddler by any name
>>
>> include this
>> .grid-container-5cols {
>>   display: grid;
>>   grid-template-columns: auto auto auto auto auto;
>>   grid-gap: 5px;
>>   background-color: #2196F3;
>>   padding: 10px;
>> }
>> .grid-container-5cols > div {
>>   background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.8);
>>   text-align: center;
>>   padding: 5px 0;
>>   font-size: 16px;
>> }
>> Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet
>>
>> Now in any list process you can do this as an example
>> 
>> <$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]]">
>> <$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  and what ever the number of items they will be organised into 5 columns
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
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[tw5] Twitter Notes -- Occasional updates from the OTHER Group

#TiddlyToolmap, regularly updated by @giffmex  
is becoming, rightly, a great place to find #TiddlyWiki 
 resources ... over 500 entries 
in over 70 categories ... https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM

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[tw5] Re: Bob - options for remembering users?

Someone here likely knows ... hopefully you will get a reply ...

Stobot wrote:
>
> Thanks, I don't have the right background unfortunately but am furiously 
> googling away trying to figure that out
>
> @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Browsers will store passwords. I'm NOT entirely sure what conditions 
>> trigger a browser to offer that they save them
>>
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[tw5] Re: Bob - options for remembering users?

Thanks, I don't have the right background unfortunately but am furiously 
googling away trying to figure that out. From what I can find most people 
have the opposite problem (trying to get their inputs to *not* store 
passwords...). It looks like something like this is what people outside of 
TiddlyWiki do, not sure how to apply it... Maybe there's some Javascript 
needed to make the browser offer.

I tried to work an <$edit-text .../> to pick this up also and nothing...

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 4:14:37 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Browsers will store passwords. I'm NOT entirely sure what conditions 
> trigger a browser to offer that they save them. But I think that would be 
> first approach, to find out *that*.
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

2018-06-06 Thread Diego Mesa

Hey Mario,

Again, thank you for this wonderful plugin. Just a few thoughts:

   - I was wondering if its possible, and if so what your thoughts are, on 
   having alias linking happen automagically without the additional |? syntax. 
   So when I type [[myalias]] the parser would first search for tiddlers with 
   that name, and if none are found, then search for aliases with that name, 
   and if none are found put the italicized link in place for the nonexistent 
   tiddler. 
   - I frequently find myself making two aliases a name and its plural 
   (example below). Could this be automated as an option? 
  - tiddler title: An Important Method
  - aliases: AIM AIMs
   - Could we use aliases in tags? Sometimes I have long tiddlers like A 
   Very Long Important Method with an alias like AVLM. It would be convenient 
   to tag with AVLM as well (I know this was discussed previously, but Im not 
   sure where anymore).
   - Search could also include searching aliases, without the need for 
   explict filtering. 

Thanks again!
Diego

Is something like that possible? 

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 11:17:59 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 5:51:17 PM UTC+2, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> I've updated my node TW to 5.1.17 and everything seems to be working 
>> great! Thanks!
>>
>
> Cool!
>
> We introduced a bug with some new "is" filter extensions in 5.1.16. 
> They have been removed for 5.1.17 for further testing. In combination with 
> a "fragile" assumption in the alias code, it caused problems.
>
> Next time, we will have to do more testing :)
>
> -m
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Bob - options for remembering users?

Browsers will store passwords. I'm NOT entirely sure what conditions 
trigger a browser to offer that they save them. But I think that would be 
first approach, to find out *that*.

Stobot wrote:
>
> This question is probably not *exclusive* to Bob/Multiuser, but certainly 
> has more relevance. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

4 - British Sheep Breeds 


3 - Comparison of The 13 Film Versions Of Great Expectations 
> 
>
2 - The Complete Mostra Of Amy Winehouse 
> 
> 1 - The Languidity Of J.J. Cale 
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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

3 - Comparison of The 13 Film Versions Of Great Expectations 


2 - The Complete Mostra Of Amy Winehouse 
> 
> 1 - The Languidity Of J.J. Cale 
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[tw5] Re: Suggested TiddlyWiki ...

2 - The Complete Mostra Of Amy Winehouse 


1 - The Languidity Of J.J. Cale 
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[tw5] Bob - options for remembering users?

This question is probably not *exclusive* to Bob/Multiuser, but certainly 
has more relevance. 

As I build out multi-user wiki's, there are a lot of instances where I want 
each user to see a "dashboard" (essentially filtered list of items) 
specific to *them*. There are other various spots where I want to 
conditionally show buttons based on username etc. etc.

Right now I am just using a <$select> dropdown shown on open with a list of 
users stored at $:/temp/username and they do that every time they open the 
page. I'm curious if this can be automated somehow by using cookies that I 
can store/retrieve such that it remembers the value, or via some other 
mechanism (stored in browser password manager?)

I found a few things that appear to be for TWC - wasn't sure if there was 
anything out there that would work in a TW5/BOB environment. 

Any ideas?

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

Oky! Thank you for clarification!
I go as per your solution.

Cheers
Mohammad


On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:07:28 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> One more question:
>>
>> If I use a DataTiddler as my state tiddler and put all these setting in 
>> that tiddler and then using transclusion I can set the values for these 
>> actions and
>> other settings! This way I will have less read/write.
>>
>> Do you recommend this way?
>>
>
> I don't recommend this for the keyboard shortcuts. It's a convenient way 
> for settings, but if one wants to be able to change the keyboard shortcuts 
> without having to reload, the corresponding shortcut tiddler itself has to 
> change. Putting a transclusion there wouldn't trigger refreshing the 
> shortcut because its content wouldn't change. And we rely upon the shortcut 
> config tiddlers to change in order to be able to change shortcuts within a 
> running wiki 
>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:53:14 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 19:20:16 UTC+2 schrieb BurningTreeC:

 Okay!
>  I use a combination of keys! and avoid using Space, Backspace, 
> PageUp, PageDown, Arrow keys, Enter, ...
> I am thinking I can activate them in presentation mode, this should be 
> not difficult. For example the
> presentation button can set the key fields and when I finished and 
> press end of show, the fields can be unset!
>
> What do you think?
>
> That's a good idea, it's possible!

>>>
>>> When you choose the shortcuts in the ControlPanel it generates tiddlers 
>>> named $:/config/shortcuts/my-action - they hold the key combination in 
>>> their text fields
>>> Your button would then set those tiddlers to your desired shortcuts when 
>>> entering in presentation mode and unset them when leaving 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts


>
> One more question:
>
> If I use a DataTiddler as my state tiddler and put all these setting in 
> that tiddler and then using transclusion I can set the values for these 
> actions and
> other settings! This way I will have less read/write.
>
> Do you recommend this way?
>

I don't recommend this for the keyboard shortcuts. It's a convenient way 
for settings, but if one wants to be able to change the keyboard shortcuts 
without having to reload, the corresponding shortcut tiddler itself has to 
change. Putting a transclusion there wouldn't trigger refreshing the 
shortcut because its content wouldn't change. And we rely upon the shortcut 
config tiddlers to change in order to be able to change shortcuts within a 
running wiki 

>
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:53:14 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 19:20:16 UTC+2 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>>
>>> Okay!
  I use a combination of keys! and avoid using Space, Backspace, PageUp, 
 PageDown, Arrow keys, Enter, ...
 I am thinking I can activate them in presentation mode, this should be 
 not difficult. For example the
 presentation button can set the key fields and when I finished and 
 press end of show, the fields can be unset!

 What do you think?

 That's a good idea, it's possible!
>>>
>>
>> When you choose the shortcuts in the ControlPanel it generates tiddlers 
>> named $:/config/shortcuts/my-action - they hold the key combination in 
>> their text fields
>> Your button would then set those tiddlers to your desired shortcuts when 
>> entering in presentation mode and unset them when leaving 
>>
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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

One more question:

If I use a DataTiddler as my state tiddler and put all these setting in 
that tiddler and then using transclusion I can set the values for these 
actions and
other settings! This way I will have less read/write.

Do you recommend this way?


On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:53:14 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 19:20:16 UTC+2 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>
>> Okay!
>>>  I use a combination of keys! and avoid using Space, Backspace, PageUp, 
>>> PageDown, Arrow keys, Enter, ...
>>> I am thinking I can activate them in presentation mode, this should be 
>>> not difficult. For example the
>>> presentation button can set the key fields and when I finished and press 
>>> end of show, the fields can be unset!
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> That's a good idea, it's possible!
>>
>
> When you choose the shortcuts in the ControlPanel it generates tiddlers 
> named $:/config/shortcuts/my-action - they hold the key combination in 
> their text fields
> Your button would then set those tiddlers to your desired shortcuts when 
> entering in presentation mode and unset them when leaving 
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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

Thats right!
I have noticed if I delete the  $:/config/ShortcutInfo/my-action they wont 
appear in the control panel but they work.
In this way I can prevent users from setting shortcuts for these actions!
Is this correct? 

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:53:14 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 19:20:16 UTC+2 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>
>> Okay!
>>>  I use a combination of keys! and avoid using Space, Backspace, PageUp, 
>>> PageDown, Arrow keys, Enter, ...
>>> I am thinking I can activate them in presentation mode, this should be 
>>> not difficult. For example the
>>> presentation button can set the key fields and when I finished and press 
>>> end of show, the fields can be unset!
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> That's a good idea, it's possible!
>>
>
> When you choose the shortcuts in the ControlPanel it generates tiddlers 
> named $:/config/shortcuts/my-action - they hold the key combination in 
> their text fields
> Your button would then set those tiddlers to your desired shortcuts when 
> entering in presentation mode and unset them when leaving 
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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts



Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 19:20:16 UTC+2 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Okay!
>>  I use a combination of keys! and avoid using Space, Backspace, PageUp, 
>> PageDown, Arrow keys, Enter, ...
>> I am thinking I can activate them in presentation mode, this should be 
>> not difficult. For example the
>> presentation button can set the key fields and when I finished and press 
>> end of show, the fields can be unset!
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> That's a good idea, it's possible!
>

When you choose the shortcuts in the ControlPanel it generates tiddlers 
named $:/config/shortcuts/my-action - they hold the key combination in 
their text fields
Your button would then set those tiddlers to your desired shortcuts when 
entering in presentation mode and unset them when leaving 

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

So, I go with this solution and will update the Tiddlyshow app.
I will inform you the result.

Cheers
Mohammad

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>
> Okay!
>>  I use a combination of keys! and avoid using Space, Backspace, PageUp, 
>> PageDown, Arrow keys, Enter, ...
>> I am thinking I can activate them in presentation mode, this should be 
>> not difficult. For example the
>> presentation button can set the key fields and when I finished and press 
>> end of show, the fields can be unset!
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> That's a good idea, it's possible! 
>

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts


>
> Okay!
>  I use a combination of keys! and avoid using Space, Backspace, PageUp, 
> PageDown, Arrow keys, Enter, ...
> I am thinking I can activate them in presentation mode, this should be not 
> difficult. For example the
> presentation button can set the key fields and when I finished and press 
> end of show, the fields can be unset!
>
> What do you think?
>
> That's a good idea, it's possible! 

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

Okay!
 I use a combination of keys! and avoid using Space, Backspace, PageUp, 
PageDown, Enter, ...

Cheers
Mohammad

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>
> *A small problem.*
>>
>> Hi BTC
>>
>> I have set the Right and Left arrow keys as shortcuts for navigating to 
>> forward/backward tiddler (slide). When I am in edit mode i.e I opened a 
>> tiddler to edit, then for moving currsor
>> I cannot use the arrow keys they navigate to next/previous tiddler 
>> instead of moving the cursor back and forth!
>>
>> I think the KeeBoord should detect this situation. For short remedy, I 
>> used alt-N and alt-P, but this is a bug.
>>
>>  
> Hmm... for now I recommend avoiding shortcuts that already have important 
> functions. I'll have to see if we can handle such cases, too
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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts


>
> *A small problem.*
>
> Hi BTC
>
> I have set the Right and Left arrow keys as shortcuts for navigating to 
> forward/backward tiddler (slide). When I am in edit mode i.e I opened a 
> tiddler to edit, then for moving currsor
> I cannot use the arrow keys they navigate to next/previous tiddler instead 
> of moving the cursor back and forth!
>
> I think the KeeBoord should detect this situation. For short remedy, I 
> used alt-N and alt-P, but this is a bug.
>
>  
Hmm... for now I recommend avoiding shortcuts that already have important 
functions. I'll have to see if we can handle such cases, too

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Re: [tw5] Text Slicer - JavaScript Error

2018-06-06 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Thank you! Much appreciated,

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 6 Jun 2018, at 17:33, @TiddlyTweeter  wrote:
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> I'm in awe of your attention to detail & the care you take to care.
> 
> Just saying
> Josiah, x
> 
> Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> It looks like the problem is that the original HTML is weirdly formatted in a 
> way that trips up text-slicer, but that the browser doesn’t mind. 
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Re: [tw5] Text Slicer - JavaScript Error

Jeremy

I'm in awe of your attention to detail & the care you take to care.

Just saying
Josiah, x

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> It looks like the problem is that the original HTML is weirdly formatted 
> in a way that trips up text-slicer, but that the browser doesn’t mind. 
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Re: [tw5] Text Slicer - JavaScript Error

2018-06-06 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Marcus

It looks like the problem is that the original HTML is weirdly formatted in a 
way that trips up text-slicer, but that the browser doesn’t mind. The specific 
problem is that there is a line break within the URL of images, like this:

http://bglabs.evade.netdna-cdn.
com/files/clouds-seamless-background-824.jpg"
width="100" height="100" />

So, the easiest fix is probably to open the original HTML document in an editor 
and correct examples like the above to remove the line break:

http://bglabs.evade.netdna-cdn.com/files/clouds-seamless-background-824.jpg";
 width="100" height="100" />

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 6 Jun 2018, at 17:02, Marcus  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to use the Text Slicer on an imported HTML file. However, whenever 
> I attempt to use the slice tool I get an error stating "Uncaught TypeError: 
> Cannot read property 'value' of undefined". Does anyone know what it could be 
> and/or how to fix it?
> 
> Link is here: 
> http://marcusspratley.updog.co
> 
> Thanks
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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

*A small problem.*

Hi BTC

I have set the Right and Left arrow keys as shortcuts for navigating to 
forward/backward tiddler (slide). When I am in edit mode i.e I opened a 
tiddler to edit, then for moving currsor
I cannot use the arrow keys they navigate to next/previous tiddler instead 
of moving the cursor back and forth!

I think the KeeBoord should detect this situation. For short remedy, I used 
alt-N and alt-P, but this is a bug.


Cheers
Mohammad


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>
> @BTC
>>  Your solution works great!
>> I have assigned Enter, Space, PageDown and Right-arror for next tiddler 
>> (slide) and Left-arrow, PageUp for previous.
>>
>
> Awesome 
>
>>
>> There is some adjustment remained. For example, if I click on the 
>> next-slide button or previous-button, the state tiddler is not notified.
>> Also after slideshow, the next time state tiddler still has the last 
>> slide title and it should rewind.
>>
>
> Yes, you'll need the same solution within your next and previous buttons
> you could add this to the button that starts and ends a presentation:
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler"/>
>
> and modify my code from above:
>
> <$list filter="[[$:/state/presentation-tiddler]is[missing]]">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler" text={{{ 
> [list[$:/StoryList]nth[1]] }}}/>
> 
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]count[]]" variable="storyCount">
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]nth!title{$:/state/
> presentation-tiddler}]">
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
> variable="nextTiddler">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler" text=<
> >/>
> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
> 
> 
> 
>
> With this it sets the state tiddler to the first tiddler if it's missing - 
> and it should be missing when you add the above line to the presentation 
> launcher
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[tw5] Text Slicer - JavaScript Error

2018-06-06 Thread Marcus

Hi all,

I'm trying to use the Text Slicer on an imported HTML file. However, whenever I 
attempt to use the slice tool I get an error stating "Uncaught TypeError: 
Cannot read property 'value' of undefined". Does anyone know what it could be 
and/or how to fix it?

Link is here: 
http://marcusspratley.updog.co

Thanks

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[tw5] WikiText doesnt render inside details HTML element &rendering expandable tree text like in Emacs Org Mode

2018-06-06 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Hello Harsha, 

The content of the details widget must have a blank line on top, then it should 
format as expected. 

Hope that’s it. 

All the best,
Thomas 

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[tw5] Active Button - Inactive Button

Is it possible to have a button active for some conditions and inactive for 
some other conditions?
I don't mean to hide the button. The inactive button can be grayed out and 
does not react on mouse click!

For example, consider a list as below


<$list filter"[tag[learning]]">
<>



I wrap this code into a *button widget*, I want to have the button grayed 
out when there is no tiddler tagged with learning!


If you can give a simple example, I appreciate to have that.


Best
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

Hello again BTC,
 You solution works like a charm!
Thank you. I will soon update the Tiddlyshow with keyboard shortcuts 
feature. 
This is a step in bulding Tiddlyshow.

Thank you again for providing the great KeeBoord plugin and I hope I see it 
in the TW core in the next release.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 1:37:23 AM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @BTC
>>  Your solution works great!
>> I have assigned Enter, Space, PageDown and Right-arror for next tiddler 
>> (slide) and Left-arrow, PageUp for previous.
>>
>
> Awesome 
>
>>
>> There is some adjustment remained. For example, if I click on the 
>> next-slide button or previous-button, the state tiddler is not notified.
>> Also after slideshow, the next time state tiddler still has the last 
>> slide title and it should rewind.
>>
>
> Yes, you'll need the same solution within your next and previous buttons
> you could add this to the button that starts and ends a presentation:
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler"/>
>
> and modify my code from above:
>
> <$list filter="[[$:/state/presentation-tiddler]is[missing]]">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler" text={{{ 
> [list[$:/StoryList]nth[1]] }}}/>
> 
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]count[]]" variable="storyCount">
> <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]nth!title{$:/state/
> presentation-tiddler}]">
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/presentation-tiddler}next[$:/StoryList]]" 
> variable="nextTiddler">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/presentation-tiddler" text=<
> >/>
> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
> 
> 
> 
>
> With this it sets the state tiddler to the first tiddler if it's missing - 
> and it should be missing when you add the above line to the presentation 
> launcher
>

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[tw5] WikiText doesnt render inside details HTML element &rendering expandable tree text like in Emacs Org Mode

2018-06-06 Thread harsha

Hello,

   When the details element is expanded, any WikiText doesnt render. For 
instance, the tiddler shows "! abc * pqr" without headings or list element 
rendering. DetailsWidget plugin doesnt seem to change things.

Also, if any of you know a simple way to do a expandable tree like 'table 
of contents' macro, but with text from tiddler (like EMacs Org Mode) with 
expand/collapse for various levels of the list hierarchy,  rather than 
rendering tiddler names with tags like the 'table of contents' macro, I 
would be grateful, if you let me know.

Thanks,
Harsha.

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[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

For example, cloning Dave's TiddlyToolmap into a searchable TW that 
iframe's the results.

TonyM wrote:
>
> Not so sure what you mean by "setup resource bases"
>

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[tw5] Re: Solution - Displaying large lists in multiple columns

One more suggestion:
 It seems the result overflow the border of tiddler! May be fixing the max 
size and take care of tiddler width.

Cheers

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 6:35:39 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I was keen to resolve an issue displaying large lists of tiddlers etc.. in 
> TiddlyWiki, they tend to be readable only if there is one item per row, 
> making the result demand a lot of scrolling.
>
> I just found this solution and decided to share it.
>
> Create a tiddler by any name
>
> include this
> .grid-container-5cols {
>   display: grid;
>   grid-template-columns: auto auto auto auto auto;
>   grid-gap: 5px;
>   background-color: #2196F3;
>   padding: 10px;
> }
> .grid-container-5cols > div {
>   background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.8);
>   text-align: center;
>   padding: 5px 0;
>   font-size: 16px;
> }
> Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet
>
> Now in any list process you can do this as an example
> 
> <$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]]">
> <$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}
> 
> 
> 
>
>  and what ever the number of items they will be organised into 5 columns
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: Solution - Displaying large lists in multiple columns

Thank you Tony!
Yes, this is a great feature, in a wiki with a lot of tiddlers always 
listing results in a very long and lengthy tiddler and scrolling back and 
forth is tedious.

One question: Is it possible to control the number of items through some 
setting for height?
One suggestion: I think having this as a macro with some parameters can 
give more flexibility.

Cheers
Mohammad


On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 6:35:39 PM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I was keen to resolve an issue displaying large lists of tiddlers etc.. in 
> TiddlyWiki, they tend to be readable only if there is one item per row, 
> making the result demand a lot of scrolling.
>
> I just found this solution and decided to share it.
>
> Create a tiddler by any name
>
> include this
> .grid-container-5cols {
>   display: grid;
>   grid-template-columns: auto auto auto auto auto;
>   grid-gap: 5px;
>   background-color: #2196F3;
>   padding: 10px;
> }
> .grid-container-5cols > div {
>   background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.8);
>   text-align: center;
>   padding: 5px 0;
>   font-size: 16px;
> }
> Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet
>
> Now in any list process you can do this as an example
> 
> <$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]]">
> <$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}
> 
> 
> 
>
>  and what ever the number of items they will be organised into 5 columns
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

ops, $:/plugins/ajh/tiddlyviewer

Not so sure what you mean by "setup resource bases"

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 11:23:00 PM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> TiddlyViewer? Erm. Sounds interesting. Where is it?
>
> FYI HTML5 iframe allows some level of sandboxing that reduces risks on 
> integrating display of in-the-wild websites. I often thought a TW with 
> iframed resources on the net could one of the easiest to setup resource 
> bases. I think its manageable in a way other solutions aren't unless you 
> are 24-7.
>
> Best
> Josiah
>
> TonyM wrote:
>>
>>
>>- Using TiddlyViewer to display a website in an iframe within a 
>>tiddler, I browsed to https://tiddlywiki.com/, found the Filter 
>>Operators tiddler.
>>- I then used the menu button for this tiddler (at TiddlyWiki.com) to 
>>Open in a New Window.
>>- I now have a single tiddler view in a dedicated (browser panel) 
>>window showing all Filter Operators.
>>
>>
>> *Now this in wonderful in its own right but can anyone workout how to 
>> trigger this directly without the need to browse to the external Wiki?*
>>
>

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[tw5] Solution - Displaying large lists in multiple columns

Folks,

I was keen to resolve an issue displaying large lists of tiddlers etc.. in 
TiddlyWiki, they tend to be readable only if there is one item per row, 
making the result demand a lot of scrolling.

I just found this solution and decided to share it.

Create a tiddler by any name

include this
.grid-container-5cols {
  display: grid;
  grid-template-columns: auto auto auto auto auto;
  grid-gap: 5px;
  background-color: #2196F3;
  padding: 10px;
}
.grid-container-5cols > div {
  background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.8);
  text-align: center;
  padding: 5px 0;
  font-size: 16px;
}
Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet

Now in any list process you can do this as an example

<$list filter="[prefix[$:/config]sort[title]]">
<$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="Open Tiddler">{{!!title}}



 and what ever the number of items they will be organised into 5 columns

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Wow, What are the possibilities (open external tiddlers in new windows)

TiddlyViewer? Erm. Sounds interesting. Where is it?

FYI HTML5 iframe allows some level of sandboxing that reduces risks on 
integrating display of in-the-wild websites. I often thought a TW with 
iframed resources on the net could one of the easiest to setup resource 
bases. I think its manageable in a way other solutions aren't unless you 
are 24-7.

Best
Josiah

TonyM wrote:
>
>
>- Using TiddlyViewer to display a website in an iframe within a 
>tiddler, I browsed to https://tiddlywiki.com/, found the Filter 
>Operators tiddler.
>- I then used the menu button for this tiddler (at TiddlyWiki.com) to 
>Open in a New Window.
>- I now have a single tiddler view in a dedicated (browser panel) 
>window showing all Filter Operators.
>
>
> *Now this in wonderful in its own right but can anyone workout how to 
> trigger this directly without the need to browse to the external Wiki?*
>

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[tw5] Re: Migration from TWC to TW5

I hope someone is documenting this thread! Looks very useful.

J.

TonyM wrote:
>
> ...
>
> One trick is to copy the list of tiddler names in the import into another 
> tiddler and use this to subsequently organise the imported items. 
> Personally I like using Marios Bundler - Simple UI to create tiddler 
> bundles, with the import bundle feature selected, this records every item 
> imported. I would use an empty TW5 to import your tiddlers then drag and 
> drop into the actual TW5 designed to receive them. The import recognises 
> TWC tiddlers and and points you to 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Upgrading.html which is somewhat miss 
> leading. Usingn the Upgrade button converts the tiddler to TW5 which 
> initially can look unsuccessful due to the different handling of line 
> breaks. *I would use a Editor toolbar button I created to prefix lines 
> with ; or : to help in the rapid repair of such tiddlers*. Keep in mind 
> they need not be made pretty if they are for archive purposes until you 
> need to. Perhaps convert them "just in time" for actual use.
>
> Of course if you want more granularity for the import one way is to use 
> TWC to export to a fresh wiki a subset of tiddlers before you try and 
> import them to TW5. To negate Browser compatibility and save issues use 
> TiddlyDesktop which allows the very powerful TWC Plugin 
> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExportTiddlersPlugin to work well. You can 
> use this to filter on almost anything via tags etc.. before export. You 
> could take a copy of your TWC first and use the export tool to also delete 
> all tiddlers exported, so you eventually have none left. 
>
> Personally I would try and separate code related tiddlers from content 
> related tiddlers. And create new ones to separate it where they are 
> embedded. The thing is if your tiddlers were defined as say ProjectTasks 
> then you will import these into a TiddlyWiki to handle your project tasks 
> so hopefully they are already organised that way.
>
> *Learned, while preparing this response*.
>
> If you drag a full TWC onto the Upgrade mechanisium 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html 
> 
>  
> it does a decent job of importing all tiddlers into TW5, You can then use 
> the Tag Manager, and Tiddler Manager to start upgrading critical tiddlers 
> and then drag these to tour target wiki when ready. The Bundler plugin 
> would be helpful here as well, including plain bundles for random tiddler 
> names, or the filtered bundles for simple or sophisticated filters that 
> helps you see the results before export. This mechaisium also names all the 
> incompatible TWC Plugins allowing you to consider what functionality you 
> need may to replace or find in TW5.
>

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[tw5] Re: Migration from TWC to TW5

2018-06-06 Thread Reto

Hi Tony

First of all: I appreciat that you picked up the topic and continue the 
conversation. As I am not able to spare a lot of time for the issue it may 
take a while until I reply. Not to metion do real work on my side ...

Understood.  As highlighted below not as manual as you think, yes much of 
> what required plugins is in the core or easier to implement than in TWC
>
> Please clarify when you say "* in this way I woukdn't break the features 
> within each tiddler. And I could maintain further development of my TWC 
> tiddlers." * and *"Maybe there is a way to add TW5 content which is 
> ignored by TWC and have TWC content which is ignored in TW5?"*
>

My TWC in heavy use: I manage more than 70 roles and projects with about 
1'400 related works. And I also improve my TWC features (aka business 
logic) from time to time. That is where my idea comes from: keep my TWC 
alive, develop the needed features in TW5 and then migrate the content to 
TW5.

The concept for developing the features in TW5 I had in mind was:
1. import my stuff in TW5
2. identify gaps
3. develop the functionality in TW5
4. add the TW5 functionality into my TWC tiddlers as far as it is tiddler 
related (like lists). Goal: TWC is still the master and I can any time 
import again into TW5.

Repeat until complete.
 

> Are you aware you can import tiddlers from TWC into TW5 using the same 
> import mechanism as TW5, select the source tiddlywiki and give it time for 
> the list to build. You can then preview tiddlers and selectively import.
>

Yes, I was aware of this. Maybe I have to try again and check what exactly 
is the output when TWC specifc things is used. Like usage of TWC plugins 
like ForEachTiddler and such. And also the functions I built myself (in my 
own plugin).
 

> One trick is to copy the list of tiddler names in the import into another 
> tiddler and use this to subsequently organise the imported items. 
> Personally I like using Marios Bundler - Simple UI to create tiddler 
> bundles, with the import bundle feature selected, this records every item 
> imported. I would use an empty TW5 to import your tiddlers then drag and 
> drop into the actual TW5 designed to receive them. The import recognises 
> TWC tiddlers and and points you to 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Upgrading.html which is somewhat miss 
> leading. Usingn the Upgrade button converts the tiddler to TW5 which 
> initially can look unsuccessful due to the different handling of line 
> breaks. *I would use a Editor toolbar button I created to prefix lines 
> with ; or : to help in the rapid repair of such tiddlers*. Keep in mind 
> they need not be made pretty if they are for archive purposes until you 
> need to. Perhaps convert them "just in time" for actual use.
>

Good hint: I already started to group my tiddlers using tags. The bundler 
could make things even easier.
 

> Personally I would try and separate code related tiddlers from content 
> related tiddlers. And create new ones to separate it where they are 
> embedded. The thing is if your tiddlers were defined as say ProjectTasks 
> then you will import these into a TiddlyWiki to handle your project tasks 
> so hopefully they are already organised that way.
>

I already separated "function" from content tiddlers. For instance I have 
over 60 tiddlers which include only ForEachTiddler calls. They might be 
"easily" migrated to filters in TW5. Then there are tiddlers which include 
buttons, they might be replaced with TW5 core functionality. Then there are 
about 40 tiddlers which includes lists with filter and batch edit 
functionality. No clue yet how to migrate them.
 
This is what I plan to do: import my TWC function tiddlers into a TW5, 
upgrade the tiddlers. Then check what TW5 does with my TWC functionality. I 
guess it will be marked some way. This are the gaps then. Then try find a 
way how I can include TW5 functions into TWC tiddlers in a way that is 
ignored by TWC. In this way I can repeat the cycle until I am done.

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts


>
> Thanks Mohammad! & BTC
>
> Excellent!
>
> BTC wrote: What you can do with a button is also possible with a keyboard 
>> shortcut
>
>
> So, for instance, say I had a "Help Tiddler" that I want the user to be 
> able to display in a modal? Could that be activated though, say, "Ctrl+H"?
>
> Yes, but I think some browsers already use "Ctrl+H" as a built-in 
shortcut. You'll find a shortcut that fits. It's easy to set up and change. 

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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

Thanks Mohammad! & BTC

Excellent!

BTC wrote: What you can do with a button is also possible with a keyboard 
> shortcut


So, for instance, say I had a "Help Tiddler" that I want the user to be 
able to display in a modal? Could that be activated though, say, "Ctrl+H"?

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: How to refresh a JavaScript widget based on a parsed tiddler ?

edit: I've edited the code above

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[tw5] Re: How to refresh a JavaScript widget based on a parsed tiddler ?


>
> It works much better now, thank you so much...
>
> I can update my json automatically if a tiddler of the table of content is 
> modified or suppressed, but it still needs a manual refresh in case I add a 
> new tiddler to the toc.
>
> Do you have any idea of another instruction that may detect an addition ?
>
> I'm not sure - where do you have the line that gets all tiddlers with the 
specified tag?

What if you use this:

for (var i=0; i < this.allTiddlers.length; i++) {
if($tw.utils.hop(changedTiddlers,self.allTiddlers[i])) {
self.allTiddlers = $tw.wiki.getTiddlersWithTag(self.filterTag);
self.refreshSelf();
return true;
}
}



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[tw5] Re: How to refresh a JavaScript widget based on a parsed tiddler ?

2018-06-06 Thread Silverfox

It works much better now, thank you so much...

I can update my json automatically if a tiddler of the table of content is 
modified or suppressed, but it still needs a manual refresh in case I add a 
new tiddler to the toc.

Do you have any idea of another instruction that may detect an addition ?



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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts