date:20200202

@Olegh

   1. look 
   at 
https://protw.github.io/twfarm/#Organization%20of%20work%20with%20wiki-farm%20folders
 
   as Mark said, it seems << alert-info should changes to

[tw5] Re: Sticky toolbar doesn't work with preview

2020-02-02 Thread Ittay Dror

Hi Ton,

First, thanks for replying, since I remembered vaguely there's an 
exploration plugin somewhere and couldn't find it and visiting your site I 
found it, it is now installed, so thank you!. 

More inline

On Sunday, 2 February 2020 14:03:10 UTC+2, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> The problem with the sticky editor is well known. See e.g. [1]
> As far as I know the problem stems from the fact that the editor is used 
> in an iFrame. See e.g. [2]
>

Well, in chrome, if I move the tc-editor-toolbar div outside of the 
tc-tiddler-preview div, then it works as expected. I think this is just a 
case of it being part of the editor tiddler and then the preview tiddler 
transcludes the editor tiddler as a whole rather than (if possible) 
separating the edit pane from whatever else is in that tiddler. The 
relevant code that creates tc-editor-toolbar is in EditTextWidget in 
$:/core/modules/editor/factory.js (which I couldn't locate in your explorer 
preset filters) and the creation of the preview div is 
in $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/body (which I couldn't find in your explorer 
preset filters either), which transcludes 
$:/core/ui/EditTemplate/body/editor

I don't know what I can/should override and what I cannot. But if I can't 
override, is there a way to run after the widget rendered (or any other 
suitable hook) to fix the dom? 

> Another problem is that (caused by the iFrame) bookmarklets don't work 
> (they work with the editor toolbar switched off!)
> I created a small toolbar (below the tags) for e.g. toggling the editor 
> toolbar on/off, preview on/off, scrollable preview on/off.
> See the tab Code tiddlers at 'My playground' at [3]
>

Installed it, 'scrollable preview' doesn't seem to change anything? Am I 
missing something? 

>  
>
>> (For future reference, how can I see the code of shadow tiddlers? Finding 
>> them on github is tedious and in TiddlyWiki I see them as empty. Maybe 
>> there's a plugin that allows exploration of other plugins that are 
>> installed? )
>>
>
> See [3] under the tabs Guides > Exploration and under the tab Plugins > 
> Exploration.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
> [1] 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/QcKMCNWeRpY/m5sPjM2TAwAJ
> [2] 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/5TInPo-HidU/8-9Oi4q-EAAJ
> [3] http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/
>  
>

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[tw5] Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

2020-02-02 Thread Ste Wilson

Long long ago somewhere in this mire of posts and tangled threads I'm sure 
someone posted an auto complete of the tiddler title as you typed it as David 
describes above. I've just failed to find it but I'm sure i remember sticking 
it my wiki once. 

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[tw5] Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

2020-02-02 Thread BurningTreeC

Place the following at the bottom of the "save-tiddler-actions" macro in the 
$:/core/ui/EditTemplate Tiddler :


<$list filter="[all[current]links[]is[missing]]">
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<>/>


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[tw5] Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

2020-02-02 Thread BurningTreeC

Hi Dave, it would be possible in pure wiki text to create missing tiddlers when 
clicking the save-Tiddler button

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

Further input,
 The strategy I used in 
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts//#Search%20in%20%20Official%20Tiddlywiki%20Site
is to open tiddlywiki.com and search again in opened page, but I think if 
we use this strategy here, like we do search two times.

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

Mark,

A problem encountered is making link for tiddler title have : in their name.

Look at 
http://kookma.searchwikis.tiddlyspot.com/#Search%20Indexes%20of%20External%20Wikis%20II

and click on Hidden Setting: ViewTemplate and EditTemplate

The second item found for *Search results in: https://tiddlywiki.com*
It seems Tiddlywiki makes links differently. There is no issue for \, /, 
space, $, ., ...

--Mohammad



On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 9:50:23 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Here's code that will create an index for the current wiki. It uses the 
> wiki title as the basis for the index name. It saves title, caption, and 
> tags.
>
> The next step would be to modify the search code so that it knows to look 
> in the index files.
>
> \define indexvalue() $(title)$|$(caption)$|$(tags)$
> <$vars indextitle={{{ [{$:/SiteTitle}addprefix[index-for-]] }}}>
> <$button>Make Index
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]]">
> <$vars title={{!!title}} caption={{!!caption}} tags={{!!tags}} >
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $index=<> 
> $value=<>/> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 9:14:46 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>
>>- Tiddlywiki is great at small to moderate number of tiddlers
>>- It is easier to keep few subjects in a Tiddlywiki, for example a 
>>student can have one wiki per course
>>   - I see Tiddlywiki like a MsWord file but with tons of features 
>>   and suprior flexibility
>>   - I see Tiddlywiki as a webpage, but simple to create, customize 
>>   and use
>>   - I see Tiddlywiki as a database
>>- RESULT
>>   - People using Tiddlywiki have several separate Tiddlywiki
>>- ISSUE
>>   - Searching and finding something gets difficult and makes headache
>>
>>
>> One solution
>>
>>- create a master Tiddywiki or a main wiki
>>- use a dataTiddler per wiki to index few fields per tiddler like 
>>tiddler titles, caption and keywords field
>>- put all these indexes in the master Tiddlywiki
>>- Use the standard or advanced search to look in these indexes and 
>>return a link to the correct wiki
>>
>> Howto
>>
>>- a simple script to create or update the index in the wiki
>>- export the updated index to master wiki
>>
>> I know about Twedration, but this is a simple solution for whom use 
>> single html Tiddlywiki.
>>
>>
>>1. What do you think?
>>2. Have you seen such solution before?
>>3. Can you share any tools, idea?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic readOnly interface (for everyone but me, over Tiddlyspot) on TW5?

Mat,
 This make TW much more flexible, where one like to have multi wiki 
(multi-pages) website!
For example a website ( a wiki) per course.

Many thanks
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic readOnly interface (for everyone but me, over Tiddlyspot) on TW5?

Mohammad wrote:
>
> Can we use the same mechanism on another domain like university domain? Or 
> this is specific to tiddlyspot.com?
>

Thanks Mohammad. I'd say you can use the idea for anything that you can 
save to. It all centers around the Publish plugin 
 concept where 
the $:/plugins/TWaddle/Publish/Button is a variant on the wiki standard 
$:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki so it has multiple instances of these:

<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-save-wiki" $param="MySaveFilter" />

Coincidentally, @oleghbond just posted his "wiki farm 
" concept which is related but much more 
advanced and powerful.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic readOnly interface (for everyone but me, over Tiddlyspot) on TW5?

Wow,
 This is amazing Mat!

Can we use the same mechanism on another domain like university domain? Or 
this is specific to tiddlyspot.com?

--Mohammad

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:19:52 PM UTC+3:30, Mat wrote:
>
> OK, so this is not an official release because is turned out to require 
> too much work to make an elegant package of my personal setup - so what 
> you're getting is more of a demo with some instructions. For one thing, it 
> contains several of my actual tiddlers that I use for teaching science to 
> middle schoolers. Those tids are in Swedish tho :-)
>
> http://starhub.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

2020-02-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

It looks like the translation may have changed <
> As I promised, I translated my documentation for TW-farm into English. So, 
> please find it where it was before: 
>
>- https://protw.github.io/twfarm/ 
>
> 
>
> Olegh
>
> пʼятниця, 31 січня 2020 р. 22:51:51 UTC+2 користувач Mohammad написав:
>>
>> Olegh,
>>  For documentation purpose and future reference, is there any readme or 
>> tutorial help to setup such Tiddly farm?
>>  
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 5:30:33 PM UTC+3:30, oleghbond wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear tiddlymates,
>>>
>>> With similar thoughts I started my project TW Farm bearing in mind this 
>>> idea from the very beginning and giving an appropriate name. I have still 
>>> been successfully using it for developing my TW farm. The main limitation 
>>> of my realization is absence of cross searching between separate wikis. So, 
>>> at this point I totally support Mohammed in raising the proper task.
>>>
>>> The Master TW of my farm is at https://protw.github.io/, the JS code is 
>>> located at https://github.com/protw/twfarm and its user description is 
>>> at https://protw.github.io/twfarm/ 
>>> 
>>>  (though 
>>> in Ukrainian).
>>>
>>> My JS knowledge level and limited time are not sufficient for developing 
>>> the idea to full extent. But I believe that it is an issue of very soon 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> As a basis of the TW farm on my computer I use BobEXE TW server. For 
>>> publication at the Web of my TW farm I use git instruments and web 
>>> resources together with my JS code (https://github.com/protw/twfarm).
>>>
>>> My vision that BobEXE could be a very good native platform for 
>>> developing the idea once more expressed by Mohammed.
>>>
>>> Olegh
>>>
>>> вівторок, 28 січня 2020 р. 07:14:46 UTC+2 користувач Mohammad написав:


- Tiddlywiki is great at small to moderate number of tiddlers
- It is easier to keep few subjects in a Tiddlywiki, for example a 
student can have one wiki per course
   - I see Tiddlywiki like a MsWord file but with tons of features 
   and suprior flexibility
   - I see Tiddlywiki as a webpage, but simple to create, customize 
   and use
   - I see Tiddlywiki as a database
- RESULT
   - People using Tiddlywiki have several separate Tiddlywiki
- ISSUE
   - Searching and finding something gets difficult and makes 
   headache


 One solution

- create a master Tiddywiki or a main wiki
- use a dataTiddler per wiki to index few fields per tiddler like 
tiddler titles, caption and keywords field
- put all these indexes in the master Tiddlywiki
- Use the standard or advanced search to look in these indexes and 
return a link to the correct wiki

 Howto

- a simple script to create or update the index in the wiki
- export the updated index to master wiki

 I know about Twedration, but this is a simple solution for whom use 
 single html Tiddlywiki.


1. What do you think?
2. Have you seen such solution before?
3. Can you share any tools, idea?

 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Is GitHub useful for TW5? (philosophy)

Hi JWH,\

These are working example and tutorial to setup TW on GitHub


   1. https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/
   2. https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages/
   3. https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-Travis-CI/

So all there possibilities have been discussed.

Good luck

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Re: [tw5] Re: Making it easier to share demos/snippets in Google Groups

Jeremy

This is an exciting news! Looking foreword to see this in action!

--Mohammad


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 9:48:37 PM UTC+3:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I put together a working prototype yesterday, and it does indeed work fine 
> (I've tested it on 80KB+ JSON files of tiddlers). I'm away from my computer 
> now but I'll post it tomorrow. It will be a separate edition at a new 
> /share.html URL.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com 
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 2 Feb 2020, at 11:45, A Gloom > wrote:
>
> 
> Jeremy,
>
> Very interesting... I know brainstorming is many steps from an actual 
> product, but...
>
> The link shortening would be convient for most, but would the original 
> long hand url (before shortening) would also work?
>
> As for security-- I assume this would be another "edition" and not part of 
> the production TW everyone uses?
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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

Hi Olegh,
 Many thanks!

I will add a link in TW-Scripts to this.

@David
This worth to be listed in Tiddlywiki Toolmap.

--Mohammad

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 11:11:35 PM UTC+3:30, oleghbond wrote:
>
> As I promised, I translated my documentation for TW-farm into English. So, 
> please find it where it was before: 
>
>- https://protw.github.io/twfarm/ 
>
> 
>
> Olegh
>
> пʼятниця, 31 січня 2020 р. 22:51:51 UTC+2 користувач Mohammad написав:
>>
>> Olegh,
>>  For documentation purpose and future reference, is there any readme or 
>> tutorial help to setup such Tiddly farm?
>>  
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 5:30:33 PM UTC+3:30, oleghbond wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear tiddlymates,
>>>
>>> With similar thoughts I started my project TW Farm bearing in mind this 
>>> idea from the very beginning and giving an appropriate name. I have still 
>>> been successfully using it for developing my TW farm. The main limitation 
>>> of my realization is absence of cross searching between separate wikis. So, 
>>> at this point I totally support Mohammed in raising the proper task.
>>>
>>> The Master TW of my farm is at https://protw.github.io/, the JS code is 
>>> located at https://github.com/protw/twfarm and its user description is 
>>> at https://protw.github.io/twfarm/ 
>>> 
>>>  (though 
>>> in Ukrainian).
>>>
>>> My JS knowledge level and limited time are not sufficient for developing 
>>> the idea to full extent. But I believe that it is an issue of very soon 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> As a basis of the TW farm on my computer I use BobEXE TW server. For 
>>> publication at the Web of my TW farm I use git instruments and web 
>>> resources together with my JS code (https://github.com/protw/twfarm).
>>>
>>> My vision that BobEXE could be a very good native platform for 
>>> developing the idea once more expressed by Mohammed.
>>>
>>> Olegh
>>>
>>> вівторок, 28 січня 2020 р. 07:14:46 UTC+2 користувач Mohammad написав:


- Tiddlywiki is great at small to moderate number of tiddlers
- It is easier to keep few subjects in a Tiddlywiki, for example a 
student can have one wiki per course
   - I see Tiddlywiki like a MsWord file but with tons of features 
   and suprior flexibility
   - I see Tiddlywiki as a webpage, but simple to create, customize 
   and use
   - I see Tiddlywiki as a database
- RESULT
   - People using Tiddlywiki have several separate Tiddlywiki
- ISSUE
   - Searching and finding something gets difficult and makes 
   headache


 One solution

- create a master Tiddywiki or a main wiki
- use a dataTiddler per wiki to index few fields per tiddler like 
tiddler titles, caption and keywords field
- put all these indexes in the master Tiddlywiki
- Use the standard or advanced search to look in these indexes and 
return a link to the correct wiki

 Howto

- a simple script to create or update the index in the wiki
- export the updated index to master wiki

 I know about Twedration, but this is a simple solution for whom use 
 single html Tiddlywiki.


1. What do you think?
2. Have you seen such solution before?
3. Can you share any tools, idea?

 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink - fixed, new location, accompanying example file

Yes, Diego, as you will see from reading the thread, TonyM has been helping 
me, and will soon package this as a plugin. Blessings!

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 12:13:43 PM UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey David,
>
> This is great work! Is it possible to package this a plugin? 
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 7:54:43 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony, Yes the tiddlers on the tiddler "$:/.giffmex/meta/How 
>>  
>> to add TiddlyBlink 
>>  to your 
>> TiddlyWiki" have been updated.
>>
>> Thanks for your help with this.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 4:19:38 AM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> I will repackage asap. But I'm on the road. I hope to empower any one to 
>>> package anything including a repackage. Edit tiddlers. Repackage, reimport 
>>> new.
>>>
>>> This my recent discovery so needs to be matured. Are the tiddlers 
>>> correct on the demo?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Making it easier to share demos/snippets in Google Groups

Jeremy

Thanks so much. I expect this could be a game changer.

I imagin we could also use this to provide the loaded url to our own wikis even 
only localy accessible.

Imagin I install a plugin in a directory wiki, nominate the plugin as the 
payload, then select the target wiki e.g. 192.168.1.2/my journal.html and with 
a click it will launch and install the plugin.

Thanks for your work
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Slider Plugin: Create trails, guided help, linear sequence of tiddlers for tutorial, lesson, step by step instructions

2020-02-02 Thread Damon Pritchett

Thanks Mohammad,

I'm looking forward to your updates. I will consider your other suggestions 
in the mean time.

Damon

On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 10:42:37 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Damon,
>  I have added a ticket here: https://github.com/kookma/slider/issues/2
>
> I will add this to new release, while I need to see how user select 
> between current and new behavior.
>
> By the way for quick solution now
>
>1. use slider in zoonin story view
>2. switch to Tiddlyshow (https://github.com/kookma/Tiddlyshow) which 
>is designed for slide show and presentation
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:06:36 AM UTC+3:30, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mohammad,
>>
>> Thanks for another great plugin. I definitely have plans for this one. 
>> May I make a suggestion? Could you modify it such that clicking the arrows 
>> in the lower left of each slide would be like your simple navigation in 
>> that it closes one tiddler and opens the next one? That would be more in 
>> tune with having a slide presentation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Damon
>>
>> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 6:17:52 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> *Announcement: Slider Plugin*
>>> *Date: Jun 15th, 2019*
>>>
>>> Slider v1.1
>>>
>>> Slider is a small plugin to create an ordered set of tiddlers also 
>>> called *Trail*.
>>>
>>> A trail can be used to create a sequence of selected contents like step 
>>> by step tutorial, guided help, lessons and similar.
>>>
>>> The slider plugin user interface contains three sections
>>>
>>>1. A sidebar tab called *Trails* to manage trails
>>>2. A *dashboard* for each trail (where trail structure is managed)
>>>3. Tiddlers in a trail, also called *slides*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Source code*
>>>
>>>   https://github.com/kookma/slider
>>>
>>>
>>> *Demo page*
>>>
>>> https://kookma.github.io/slider/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Install*
>>>
>>>- Simply drag and drop $:/plugins/kookma/slider, or
>>>- Go to https://github.com/kookma/slider
>>>   - downlaod the slider_plugin.tid
>>>   - drag and drop to your wiki
>>>
>>> Always save and reload your wiki to have the plugin in action. 
>>>
>>>
>>> *Feedback*
>>>
>>>
>>>1. Raise issues and send your questions on GitHub
>>>2. Send your evaluation result here or on the GitHub
>>>3. Send your use case and give link for acknowledgement
>>>4. It is good to star it on GitHub if you like it
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Note:*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Slider tries to create linear content in the highly nonlinear 
>>> environment of Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>>
>>>1. Slider was designed as side product when I was working with 
>>>Tiddlyshow
>>>2. Tiddlyshow will have soon a new update
>>>3. See discussion here: Jeremy and Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Improvement*
>>>
>>>
>>>1. The TW official toc macro does not support exclude filter, this 
>>>causes to have the footer in the list of tiddler
>>>2. Interested people are invited to create thems
>>>3. Some special TW theme are not recommended to be used with Slider, 
>>>one can develop code for compatibility
>>>4. Some people may like to have shortcuts, but I did not add this 
>>>feature to have less overlaps with Tiddlyshow
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

2020-02-02 Thread Diego Mesa

Yes!! David the issue Mat linked will directly add support for this to the 
core!! 

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 6:04:44 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
>
> David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> I just meant that if there were a way for closing a link to a missing 
>> tiddler to trigger TW into creating an actual tiddler. Would save two 
>> steps. But I realize I am asking for the moon on this one. 
>>
>
> AFAIK, the editor is totally passive.
>  
>
>> The behavior in Roam research is interesting: click [[, and the closing 
>> ]] is automatically inserted after the cursor. Start typing, one character, 
>> and a dropdown list of your Roam pages appears, and the list gets filtered 
>> as you type. Hit enter, and the cursor jumps to just after the ]] . And the 
>> page for whatever you typed already exists as a page in Roam. It's really 
>> intuitive and saves steps. I figured it didn't hurt to ask.
>>
>
>
> That sounds super. You should express support for this proposal: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3784 As I note there: "This 
> would make the editor support the very process of authoring and editing! 
> The current editor merely *enables* authoring/editing." 
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Is GitHub useful for TW5? (philosophy)

2020-02-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki



On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 3:00:37 PM UTC-8, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
> @Mark S. - thank you
>
> When I go to https://jwhoneycutt.github.io/index.html 
> 
>  using 
> a browser, I do see the TW5 file, and it loads the favicon in my Chrome 
> browser tab
> I can read anything in my wiki. When I write a new tiddler 
> title:"2020-02-02 5:57pm", and Save changes, it saves it to my downloads 
> folder on my hard drive
>
>
Before saving the tw, do you update your settings? The ones you have at 
https://jwhoneycutt.github.io/index.html 
are wrong or incomplete. Your path 

for index.html in the root directory needs to be / .  You may have set it 
before uploading to github, but it's gone now. 


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[tw5] Re: Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

David Gifford wrote:
>
> I just meant that if there were a way for closing a link to a missing 
> tiddler to trigger TW into creating an actual tiddler. Would save two 
> steps. But I realize I am asking for the moon on this one. 
>

AFAIK, the editor is totally passive.
 

> The behavior in Roam research is interesting: click [[, and the closing ]] 
> is automatically inserted after the cursor. Start typing, one character, 
> and a dropdown list of your Roam pages appears, and the list gets filtered 
> as you type. Hit enter, and the cursor jumps to just after the ]] . And the 
> page for whatever you typed already exists as a page in Roam. It's really 
> intuitive and saves steps. I figured it didn't hurt to ask.
>


That sounds super. You should express support for this proposal: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3784 As I note there: "This 
would make the editor support the very process of authoring and editing! 
The current editor merely *enables* authoring/editing." 

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

Hi Mat and Eric, thanks for the responses. Neither are what I mean. Mat's 
solution with a different syntax would undermine the advantage gained by 
using comptext autocomplete. Eric's suggestion is something I already knew 
about and played with, and had even changed the CSS for, last week. But in 
the end I decided against it because even I was getting confused. I 
couldn't find references to tiddlers in lists, and realized those tiddlers 
don't exist. So I went back to normal CSS for missing tiddlers.

I just meant that if there were a way for closing a link to a missing 
tiddler to trigger TW into creating an actual tiddler. Would save two 
steps. But I realize I am asking for the moon on this one. 

The behavior in Roam research is interesting: click [[, and the closing ]] 
is automatically inserted after the cursor. Start typing, one character, 
and a dropdown list of your Roam pages appears, and the list gets filtered 
as you type. Hit enter, and the cursor jumps to just after the ]] . And the 
page for whatever you typed already exists as a page in Roam. It's really 
intuitive and saves steps. I figured it didn't hurt to ask.

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:23:29 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Is there a way to configure TiddlyWiki or a plugin, so that when closing a 
> link (]]), if the tiddler does not exist, one is automatically created? Of 
> course I am thinking of TiddlyBlink - this would replicate a very handy, 
> time-saving feature of Roam. There would be no need to click edit then 
> click save changes for each tiddler.
>

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[tw5] Re: Is GitHub useful for TW5? (philosophy)

Should my path be "/blob/" ?


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[tw5] Re: Is GitHub useful for TW5? (philosophy)

@Mark S. - thank you

When I am "In" GitHub, looking at my repositories, and click into my 
github.io repository, I see index.html
Double clicking index.html does not open it: I get "View Raw: (Sorry about 
that, but we can’t show files that are this big right now.)

When I go to https://jwhoneycutt.github.io/index.html using a browser, I do 
see the TW5 file, and it loads the favicon in my Chrome browser tab
I can read anything in my wiki. When I write a new tiddler 
title:"2020-02-02 5:57pm", and Save changes, it saves it to my downloads 
folder on my hard drive

Neither changes the wiki in my repository.

JWH

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[tw5] Re: Is GitHub useful for TW5? (philosophy)

2020-02-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Are you browsing the file on the io site, or as your local download? I 
think, and I could be wrong, that you should open the io site index.html 
file for browsing, make your "save" entries, and then save.

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-8, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 4:55:45 PM UTC-5, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>>
>>
>>> @Mark S. - thank you
>>
>> I clearly had some misunderstandings about GitHub, and probably still do. 
>> I think I have learned:
>>
>> GitHub Pages is a particular (Public-only) published application from 
>> within GitHub that will update to a website hosted by GitHub Pages. Using 
>> TW5 from within it will update the website, allowing you to access it from 
>> any internet connected machine with a browser.
>>
>> Tiddlywiki version 5.1.20 created the GitHub Saver module inside Control 
>> Panel. Per Jeremy Ruston's response, the default path being set to `/` is 
>> either not necessary now, or will be in the next update (5.1.22 ?)
>>
>> Despite trying every combination I an think of, I can not get the GitHub 
>> saver to not give me an "XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" 
>>
>> *Settings: *
>> Username: jwhoneycutt
>> personal access token: (big long thing)
>> Target repository (e.g. Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5) jwhoneycutt/
>> jwhoneycutt.github.io OR jwhoneycutt.github.io -> for some reason, keeps 
>> "resetting" to jwhoneycutt`/`github.io
>> Target branch for saving master
>> Path to target file (e.g. /wiki/) / (or not)
>> Filename of target file (e.g. index.html) index.html
>> Server API URL https://api.github.com
>>
>> Is there a simple syntax error preventing me from using GitHub saver 
>> inside the $:/ControlPanel? 
>>
>> JWH
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is GitHub useful for TW5? (philosophy)



On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 4:55:45 PM UTC-5, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
>
>> @Mark S. - thank you
>
> I clearly had some misunderstandings about GitHub, and probably still do. 
> I think I have learned:
>
> GitHub Pages is a particular (Public-only) published application from 
> within GitHub that will update to a website hosted by GitHub Pages. Using 
> TW5 from within it will update the website, allowing you to access it from 
> any internet connected machine with a browser.
>
> Tiddlywiki version 5.1.20 created the GitHub Saver module inside Control 
> Panel. Per Jeremy Ruston's response, the default path being set to `/` is 
> either not necessary now, or will be in the next update (5.1.22 ?)
>
> Despite trying every combination I an think of, I can not get the GitHub 
> saver to not give me an "XMLHttpRequest error code: 401" 
>
> *Settings: *
> Username: jwhoneycutt
> personal access token: (big long thing)
> Target repository (e.g. Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5) jwhoneycutt/
> jwhoneycutt.github.io OR jwhoneycutt.github.io -> for some reason, keeps 
> "resetting" to jwhoneycutt`/`github.io
> Target branch for saving master
> Path to target file (e.g. /wiki/) / (or not)
> Filename of target file (e.g. index.html) index.html
> Server API URL https://api.github.com
>
> Is there a simple syntax error preventing me from using GitHub saver 
> inside the $:/ControlPanel? 
>
> JWH
>

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[tw5] Re: Is GitHub useful for TW5? (philosophy)

>
>
> @Mark S. - thank you

I clearly had some misunderstandings about GitHub, and probably still do. I
think I have learned:

GitHub Pages is a particular (Public-only) published application from
within GitHub that will update to a website hosted by GitHub Pages. Using
TW5 from within it will update the website, allowing you to access it from
any internet connected machine with a browser.

Tiddlywiki version 5.1.20 created the GitHub Saver module inside Control
Panel. Per Jeremy Ruston's response, the default path being set to `/` is
either not necessary now, or will be in the next update (5.1.22 ?)

Despite trying every combination I an think of, I can not get the GitHub
saver to not give me an "XMLHttpRequest error code: 401"

*Settings: *
Username: jwhoneycutt
personal access token: (big long thing)
Target repository (e.g. Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5)
jwhoneycutt/jwhoneycutt.github.io
OR jwhoneycutt.github.io -> for some reason, keeps "resetting" to
jwhoneycutt`/`github.io
Target branch for saving
Path to target file (e.g. /wiki/)
Filename of target file (e.g. index.html)
Server API URL

Is there a simple syntax error preventing me from using GitHub saver inside
the $:/ControlPanel?

JWH

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[tw5] Re: Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

2020-02-02 Thread Eric Shulman

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:23:29 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Is there a way to configure TiddlyWiki or a plugin, so that when closing a 
> link (]]), if the tiddler does not exist, one is automatically created? Of 
> course I am thinking of TiddlyBlink - this would replicate a very handy, 
> time-saving feature of Roam. There would be no need to click edit then 
> click save changes for each tiddler.
>

As you know, TiddlyWiki already allows you to enter [[NameOfTiddler]] to 
create a link to a "missing" tiddler.
The only difference in appearance is that the link is shown using italics.

Following that link still opens the tiddler, just as if it exists.
The only differences in appearances are:
* the tiddler title is shown using italics
* it does not display a "modified" date (the tiddler subtitle)
* it shows default fallback text of: Missing tiddler "SomeTiddler" – click 
to create.

So... to make missing tiddlers look the same as existing tiddlers, all you 
need to do is make a few minor adjustments:

1) remove the italics from the link display and the tiddler title display 
by creating a tiddler, tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet, containing:
a.tc-tiddlylink-missing
   { font-style:initial; }
.tc-tiddler-missing .tc-title
   { font-style:initial; font-weight:300; }

2) remove the default fallback text for missing tiddlers by editing 
$:/language/MissingTiddler/Hint

Of course, a missing tiddler still won't appear in lists of existing 
tiddlers (e.g., the sidebar "recent" tab),
and this *might* be an issue for lists of links shown by TiddlyBlink but, 
as I am not familiar with the
inner workings of TiddlyBlink, I leave this to you to determine.

hope this helps,
-e

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[tw5] Re: Indexing: a wiki holds search indexes to other wikis

2020-02-02 Thread oleghbond

As I promised, I translated my documentation for TW-farm into English. So, 
please find it where it was before: 

   - https://protw.github.io/twfarm/ 
   


Olegh

пʼятниця, 31 січня 2020 р. 22:51:51 UTC+2 користувач Mohammad написав:
>
> Olegh,
>  For documentation purpose and future reference, is there any readme or 
> tutorial help to setup such Tiddly farm?
>  
> --Mohammad
>
> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 5:30:33 PM UTC+3:30, oleghbond wrote:
>>
>> Dear tiddlymates,
>>
>> With similar thoughts I started my project TW Farm bearing in mind this 
>> idea from the very beginning and giving an appropriate name. I have still 
>> been successfully using it for developing my TW farm. The main limitation 
>> of my realization is absence of cross searching between separate wikis. So, 
>> at this point I totally support Mohammed in raising the proper task.
>>
>> The Master TW of my farm is at https://protw.github.io/, the JS code is 
>> located at https://github.com/protw/twfarm and its user description is 
>> at https://protw.github.io/twfarm/ 
>> 
>>  (though 
>> in Ukrainian).
>>
>> My JS knowledge level and limited time are not sufficient for developing 
>> the idea to full extent. But I believe that it is an issue of very soon 
>> time.
>>
>> As a basis of the TW farm on my computer I use BobEXE TW server. For 
>> publication at the Web of my TW farm I use git instruments and web 
>> resources together with my JS code (https://github.com/protw/twfarm).
>>
>> My vision that BobEXE could be a very good native platform for developing 
>> the idea once more expressed by Mohammed.
>>
>> Olegh
>>
>> вівторок, 28 січня 2020 р. 07:14:46 UTC+2 користувач Mohammad написав:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Tiddlywiki is great at small to moderate number of tiddlers
>>>- It is easier to keep few subjects in a Tiddlywiki, for example a 
>>>student can have one wiki per course
>>>   - I see Tiddlywiki like a MsWord file but with tons of features 
>>>   and suprior flexibility
>>>   - I see Tiddlywiki as a webpage, but simple to create, customize 
>>>   and use
>>>   - I see Tiddlywiki as a database
>>>- RESULT
>>>   - People using Tiddlywiki have several separate Tiddlywiki
>>>- ISSUE
>>>   - Searching and finding something gets difficult and makes 
>>>   headache
>>>
>>>
>>> One solution
>>>
>>>- create a master Tiddywiki or a main wiki
>>>- use a dataTiddler per wiki to index few fields per tiddler like 
>>>tiddler titles, caption and keywords field
>>>- put all these indexes in the master Tiddlywiki
>>>- Use the standard or advanced search to look in these indexes and 
>>>return a link to the correct wiki
>>>
>>> Howto
>>>
>>>- a simple script to create or update the index in the wiki
>>>- export the updated index to master wiki
>>>
>>> I know about Twedration, but this is a simple solution for whom use 
>>> single html Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>>
>>>1. What do you think?
>>>2. Have you seen such solution before?
>>>3. Can you share any tools, idea?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

IF what you mean is to click a missing title and that action makes the 
tiddler exist, then maybe you'll find the NewTids 
 relevant. It is intended as a way to 
easily create multiple tiddlers from e.g a list and as such it also shows a 
small settings "panel". This could be remade to not show any panel above 
the missing tiddler/s but to only have the missing tiddler show its title 
like normal, i.e when clicking the missing title it comes to into 
existance. It would however in edit mode require you to write the missing 
name like so <> instead of the normal [[MyTiddler]], 
i.e as a macro call.
Is this kind of what you mean?

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic readOnly interface (for everyone but me, over Tiddlyspot) on TW5?

OK, so this is not an official release because is turned out to require too 
much work to make an elegant package of my personal setup - so what you're 
getting is more of a demo with some instructions. For one thing, it 
contains several of my actual tiddlers that I use for teaching science to 
middle schoolers. Those tids are in Swedish tho :-)

http://starhub.tiddlyspot.com/

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Making it easier to share demos/snippets in Google Groups

2020-02-02 Thread Jeremy Ruston

I put together a working prototype yesterday, and it does indeed work fine 
(I've tested it on 80KB+ JSON files of tiddlers). I'm away from my computer now 
but I'll post it tomorrow. It will be a separate edition at a new /share.html 
URL.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> On 2 Feb 2020, at 11:45, A Gloom  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeremy,
> 
> Very interesting... I know brainstorming is many steps from an actual 
> product, but...
> 
> The link shortening would be convient for most, but would the original long 
> hand url (before shortening) would also work?
> 
> As for security-- I assume this would be another "edition" and not part of 
> the production TW everyone uses?
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink - fixed, new location, accompanying example file

2020-02-02 Thread Diego Mesa

Hey David,

This is great work! Is it possible to package this a plugin? 

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 7:54:43 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Tony, Yes the tiddlers on the tiddler "$:/.giffmex/meta/How 
>  
> to add TiddlyBlink 
>  to your 
> TiddlyWiki" have been updated.
>
> Thanks for your help with this.
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 4:19:38 AM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> David
>>
>> I will repackage asap. But I'm on the road. I hope to empower any one to 
>> package anything including a repackage. Edit tiddlers. Repackage, reimport 
>> new.
>>
>> This my recent discovery so needs to be matured. Are the tiddlers correct 
>> on the demo?
>>
>> regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Automatic creating of tiddlers if missing?

Hi all

Is there a way to configure TiddlyWiki or a plugin, so that when closing a 
link (]]), if the tiddler does not exist, one is automatically created? Of 
course I am thinking of TiddlyBlink - this would replicate a very handy, 
time-saving feature of Roam. There would be no need to click edit then 
click save changes for each tiddler.

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink - fixed, new location, accompanying example file

Hi Tony, Yes the tiddlers on the tiddler "$:/.giffmex/meta/How 
 
to add TiddlyBlink  
to your TiddlyWiki" have been updated.

Thanks for your help with this.

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 4:19:38 AM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> David
>
> I will repackage asap. But I'm on the road. I hope to empower any one to 
> package anything including a repackage. Edit tiddlers. Repackage, reimport 
> new.
>
> This my recent discovery so needs to be matured. Are the tiddlers correct 
> on the demo?
>
> regards
> Tony
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: What does "wikify" mean?

2020-02-02 Thread Xavier Cazin

Hi Matt, Tony,

Here is my take: *wikifying means reusing the result of the wikification in
your code instead of displaying it*.

Indeed, wikification typically produces a complex HTML string, so if you
rather need a flat text string, the safest route is to ask <$wikify> to
render a sequence of <$text> widgets as in:

\define foo()
\whitespace trim
<$text text={{{ [[$:/temp/selected
class]get[text]else[tc-view-field-name]addsuffix[ ]addprefix[@@.]] }}} />
<$text text=<> />
<$text text="@@ "/>
\end

Here is the string computed in `<>`: //<>//

<$edit-text tag=input tiddler tiddler="$:/temp/selected class"
placeholder="give a CSS class" default='blue' />

<$wikify name=class-caption text=<>>
<$button>

<$action-setfield caption=<> />
set class ''<$text text={{{ [[$:/temp/selected
class]get[text]else[tc-view-field-name]] }}}/>'' to the current caption



Admittedly, this is a rather dumb example: it merely shows that you can
compute new wikitext (for later reuse) by retrieving the string that is
build in the <> macro, instead of displaying it.

Cheers,
-- Xavier Cazin


On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 7:57 PM Mat  wrote:

> Thanks for input guys. My question was solely about a word definition for
> what "to wikify" means. Only now did I realize I can google it
>  (ingenious!) and I find:
>
> To adapt to the standards and facilities of an existing wiki
>> , such as by marking up
>>  with wikitext
>> 
>
>
> Now, this makes me think even more that when *we* use wikify, we have our
> own local definition of the term because while I instinctively agree with
> the proposed definition above, this does not seem to be how we use it in
> tiddlyverse. So again, exactly what do we mean when we say "wikify"? Maybe
> it only means "to apply the WikifyWidget"?
>
> And, further: What term should I use when I mean the above definition?
> Perhaps "convert to wikitext"?
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: Transcluding an image from another tiddler's icon field

2020-02-02 Thread A Gloom


>
>
> <$set name="refTid" value={{test/TiddlerA}}>
>
> <$button>
><$transclude tiddler=<> field="icon"/>
> 
>
> <$set>
>

This doesn't work because of 

value={{test/TiddlerA}}

it feeds the transclude widget the text field contents of test?TiddlerA ( 
{{}} transcludes the tidder's content as the variable value) instead of the 
tiddler's title...


value="test/TiddlerA"

will feed the title to the transclude widget so it can read the icon field 
of it

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[tw5] Re: Sticky toolbar doesn't work with preview

2020-02-02 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi Ittay,

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 10:27:39 AM UTC+1, Ittay Dror wrote:
>
> Sorry if the question I have is not phrased with the proper terms. 
>
> I'd like to have the 'tc-editor-toolbar' div have a sticky position. This 
> works when it is under tc-reveal, but when I use preview, it gets 
> transcluded under tc-tiddler-preview. 
>
> What is the best way to have it stay under tc-reveal when preview mode is 
> on? I understand transclusion happens in $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/body, 
> should I override it? How? Maybe have some other code move it in place 
> after the transclusion? Again, how? 
>
> The problem with the sticky editor is well known. See e.g. [1]
As far as I know the problem stems from the fact that the editor is used in 
an iFrame. See e.g. [2]
Another problem is that (caused by the iFrame) bookmarklets don't work 
(they work with the editor toolbar switched off!)
I created a small toolbar (below the tags) for e.g. toggling the editor 
toolbar on/off, preview on/off, scrollable preview on/off.
See the tab Code tiddlers at 'My playground' at [3]
 

> (For future reference, how can I see the code of shadow tiddlers? Finding 
> them on github is tedious and in TiddlyWiki I see them as empty. Maybe 
> there's a plugin that allows exploration of other plugins that are 
> installed? )
>

See [3] under the tabs Guides > Exploration and under the tab Plugins > 
Exploration.

Cheers,

Ton

[1] 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/QcKMCNWeRpY/m5sPjM2TAwAJ
[2] 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/5TInPo-HidU/8-9Oi4q-EAAJ
[3] http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/
 

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[tw5] Re: Making it easier to share demos/snippets in Google Groups

2020-02-02 Thread A Gloom

Jeremy,

Very interesting... I know brainstorming is many steps from an actual 
product, but...

The link shortening would be convient for most, but would the original long 
hand url (before shortening) would also work?

As for security-- I assume this would be another "edition" and not part of 
the production TW everyone uses?

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[tw5] Re: Work done with TW

2020-02-02 Thread A Gloom

sorry Donald & PMario, I didn't notice your responses

@Donald - tyvm : ) see below

@PMario - I did notice your post about the Story Editor-- it's on my list 
of things to pursue along with your trigger mechanism-- so much to do and 
not enough hours in the day : D

I posted more screenshots of some gaps in the original presentation:

1) showing image fade in & out's
2) more of the tutorial chain
3) the single & double story page presentation tiddlers-- whhich I will 
posting the code to here in appreciation-- they're simple single tiddler 
pieces (self contained except for the tiddler/image page they transclude)

just visit the same link and hit the browser's refresh button-- 


http://pyewackit.net/ghoulsgate/ragsscreenshots.html

(safe link-- it's at my personal domain)
sorry about the page load -- there's 22 screenshots now ><

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Re: [tw5] Making it easier to share demos/snippets in Google Groups

All

What is the next step to make Jeremy's idea happen and my greater vision. 
Provide a filter only and generate bookmarlettes or loaded urls.


Mohammad

Love your work. I will try and package it differently.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink - fixed, new location, accompanying example file

David

I am grateful to you for asking for a real world solution and managing it to a 
reality. We need not expect more.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink - fixed, new location, accompanying example file

David

I will repackage asap. But I'm on the road. I hope to empower any one to 
package anything including a repackage. Edit tiddlers. Repackage, reimport new.

This my recent discovery so needs to be matured. Are the tiddlers correct on 
the demo?

regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: What does "wikify" mean?

Mario

How do I get some wiki text evaluated and stored as plain text result I can use 
in subsequent steps?

I don't want it to evaluate differently later, I want to store it as text in a 
variable. 

now I can use match !match, split join and more how can I wikify and use a text 
result in the structure?

So I may have the terminology incorrect but how do I do it.

Please
Tony

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to make an html piece of code workable inside tiddlywiki?

2020-02-02 Thread Olegh Bondarenko

>
> *Повідомити про помилку *


means sort of: "*Report an error*"

Olegh Bondarenko
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сб, 1 лют. 2020 о 00:13 TonyM  пише:

> Hi
>
> When I follow the issue tracker I get this message
>
>  Повідомити про помилку
>
> Unfortunatly I can't read.
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[tw5] Re: Sticky toolbar doesn't work with preview