[tw5] Re: Mat on Hangouts - any questions?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mat

I have benefited from you stuff a lot over time. Sometimes the gizmo 
itself, or, often more, the demonstration of an approach to issues that is 
v. enlightening.

One issue. I often recall (half-formed) thoughts of things you made (like: 
"that table demo with sleeping headings").
So, question: Do you have a plugin library that would make is easy to find 
your gems? :-)

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Recommend books on note-taking methods

[TiddlyTweeter]

@bimlas

I agree with David the Ahrens is useful. Also, in your case, the writer has 
a decent grasp of Zettlekasten, as well as changes some software has made 
to the original Luhrman approach.

bimlas wrote:
>
>
> Are there any books that are definitely worth reading if I want to create 
> a really good knowledge base?
>

An issue with *all* the literature around software I have read so far is 
that it tends to focus on technical means too much.
The fact is that use of software in the way you want/need is ultimately 
based in a *cognitive* need. 
You know what you want but need work at how to achieve it. 
Using/building tools is a creative act of "meaning making" dependent on 
task ("function").

So, as far as books go, I'd look took a *little bit *at general works on 
"meaning making" & "creative process" too. Not for solutions as such; but 
to aid perspective. Like: Gene Gendlin (e.g. Experiencing & The Creation Of 
Meaning), Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (e.g. Flow), Edward de Bono (e.g. Serious 
Creativity), Brewster Ghiselin (editor of The Creative Process). A bit of 
any of that stuff might help.

Longer term I think that "open tools" like TW, that are ultimately agnostic 
on link "philosophy", that permit many enabling modes of linking, will 
clarify what good praxis looks like for specific aims. Hopefully, your & 
David's approaches could help show some of these more clearly. Folk working 
FOR a purpose using a tool that helps.

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: html bleeding through from template or macro?

[Mat]

@amreus, I note you're using the SideEditor. There was a bug which might 
have something to do with your problem (there was an extraneous  
tag). I've corrected it so please update to latest version.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Recommend books on note-taking methods

[TiddlyTweeter]

David Gifford wrote:
>
>  Maybe I should write a book on notetaking...
>

Good idea! Given you worked at getting tools workable for you would be able 
to provide rich, meaningful examples.

FWIW, TW would be a Good tool to demonstrate different approaches in. Its 
got the flex to support many approaches. Frankly there is a lack, 
generally, on-line of clear on-line examples demonstrating comparatively 
where different approaches come out.

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Advice for a iOS and iPadOS only user

[Ed Heil]

Hi Ivan,

Yep, Quine 2 does exactly what you're looking for, in terms of keeping 
everything local and syncing to iCloud (or any other sufficiently 
featureful file service provider on iOS).

You can indeed insert images, either embedded in the wiki or sitting in a 
nearby folder (though this feature might not be available if you're using 
something like Dropbox instead of iCloud), and I imagine you could embed 
youtube videos though I honestly haven't tried it.

I was trying to use TW on iDevices before Quine 2 came out and Quine 2 was 
1000x easier than anything else I tried.

It's just like using a TW locally on your device, with local saving, but of 
course if you're using iCloud storage, that local saving will sync to other 
devices :)


On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 8:59:11 AM UTC-4, IvanPsy wrote:
>
> Greetings,
> The more I read about TiddlyWiki the more I think is the right tool for my 
> second brain.
> I think Stroll has all the features I need, such as bi-directional links, 
> reference links, autocompletion, etc...
>
> I have just one question...
>
> Considering I’m only on iPhone and iPad, and that I want to keep all local 
> (synced on iCloud) can I have all these feature while working on such 
> devices too?
> I read Quine 2 is the only tool to manage a TiddlyWiki on iOS and iPadOS: 
> can I have those features while working on Quine 2?
> How about inserting images and embedding videos from YouTube?
>
> I have access on a PC (Windows), so starting on a PC to setup the base is 
> not a problem for me, nor accessing fro ma PC here and there for 
> maintenance purposes, but the daily work would be on an iPhone and an iPad.
>
> Thank you!
>

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[tw5] Re: html bleeding through from template or macro?

[Eric Shulman]

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-7, amreus wrote:
>
> Trying to understand templates and macros.  Can someone see why the HTML 
> is bleeding through from my template and/or macros?
> http://amreus.tiddlyspot.com/
>

In personViewTemplate, you have an opening , but no matching 

Although it has been common practice to use  and  as *unmatched *HTML 
tags,
they are actually supposed to be *matched *with corresponding  and 
 tags

For , you can still get away with leaving it unmatched, or use  
to terminate it right away.
For , you really have to match it, or use  to terminate it right 
away.

Thus, two possible fixes for your template:
<$list filter="[all[current]tag[person]]">

 [[personViewTemplate]]  
Born {{!!birt-date}}

<>
<>
<>




or

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[person]]">

 [[personViewTemplate]]  
Born {{!!birt-date}}

<>
<>
<>



enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] html bleeding through from template or macro?

[amreus]

Hi.

Trying to understand templates and macros.  Can someone see why the HTML is 
bleeding through from my template and/or macros?

http://amreus.tiddlyspot.com/

Thanks.

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[tw5] Re: Advice for a iOS and iPadOS only user

[TW Tones]

Ivan,

I only recently obtained and Ipod touch to test TiddlyWiki on IOS, So I am 
not expert here. However a few useful points

   - Quine may be the only app for tiddlywiki, but it is not the only way 
   to use tiddlywiki on iOS
   - Any browser can access a tiddlywiki anywhere on the Internet, LAN etc..
   - Once loaded in a browser tab tiddlywiki can keep running fine until 
   closed, even if it can't save
   - If you install a node server on your device you can access the 
   tiddlywikis on that server via local host address
  - There is an equivalent to Termux on Android
  - The trick here is get your device to serve the wiki, then when on 
  the LAN your desktop can access it on the phone
   - Although not adopted widely the local storage plugin may add the local 
   save mechanism for tiddlywikis that are "offline" for a period so when they 
   return to online to the server they then save the changes. 
   - At present only a bob server will truly protect you at a tiddler 
   level, if you access the same tiddlywiki from multiple devices at once.

Regards
Tones


On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 10:59:11 PM UTC+10, IvanPsy wrote:
>
> Greetings,
> The more I read about TiddlyWiki the more I think is the right tool for my 
> second brain.
> I think Stroll has all the features I need, such as bi-directional links, 
> reference links, autocompletion, etc...
>
> I have just one question...
>
> Considering I’m only on iPhone and iPad, and that I want to keep all local 
> (synced on iCloud) can I have all these feature while working on such 
> devices too?
> I read Quine 2 is the only tool to manage a TiddlyWiki on iOS and iPadOS: 
> can I have those features while working on Quine 2?
> How about inserting images and embedding videos from YouTube?
>
> I have access on a PC (Windows), so starting on a PC to setup the base is 
> not a problem for me, nor accessing fro ma PC here and there for 
> maintenance purposes, but the daily work would be on an iPhone and an iPad.
>
> Thank you!
>

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[tw5] Re: Mat on Hangouts - any questions?

[TW Tones]

Mat,

At a high level what workflow do you use designing and developing plugins?

I look forward to the video.

Tones

On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 6:38:10 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> So, the plan is that I'll join Jeremy for a hangout within shortly. Likely 
> already tomorrow. (Which, of course, doesn't necessarily mean it is 
> published then.) I figure these occasions are an opportunity for the 
> community to ask about questions that the guest can explain/demo/whatever, 
> i.e in a way that can't quite be done in mere writing. So, if there's 
> anything, now is the time.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SideEditor 2.0 - A live editor floating by the river side...

[TW Tones]

Mat,

Attached is a sideBar width button, that opens a modal, to allow the 
SideBar width to be be modified. 

It works well for my usage of Sidebar editor, especially on my widescreen 
desktop monitors. I share it for two reasons;

   - Perhaps you could add it to the sidebar editor window (steal the code 
   or idea) if you want
   - It raises the issue of managing the third Dimension the z-index across 
   tools. 
  - Do you have a design suggestion for my independent tool so it does 
  not clash with sidebar editor
  - Is this one argument for you incorporating the side bar width 
  feature in Sidebar editor?
   
Regards
Tones

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 2:21:47 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> *"Yes honey, of course I'll clean the attic... when Mat updates the 
> SideEditor"*
>
> *"Imagine there's no heaven. And no religion too. And that SideEditor is 
> updated."*
>
> *"The SideEditor will be updated. It'll be beautiful. And the Mexicans 
> will pay for it!"*
>
>
> Well, NO MORE can you mock "updating of SideEditor" or use it for punch 
> lines! NO MORE!!! Because...
>
>
> SideEditor 2.0 is unleashed! 
>
> Version 2 gives an overall superior experience.
> Especially the hover-to-focus is much improved.
> And you can edit macros!
>
> This is a plugin I rely on *all* the time - be it for writing or TW 
> development.
> Try it out.
>
> <:-)
>
> ...now back to focus on EditorMagic which is also super important.
>
>

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sideBar-width.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Mat on Hangouts - any questions?

[Mat]

So, the plan is that I'll join Jeremy for a hangout within shortly. Likely 
already tomorrow. (Which, of course, doesn't necessarily mean it is 
published then.) I figure these occasions are an opportunity for the 
community to ask about questions that the guest can explain/demo/whatever, 
i.e in a way that can't quite be done in mere writing. So, if there's 
anything, now is the time.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Keyboard shortcut to jump between tiddler title and tiddler body?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

In prerelease 5.1.23, per Saq's instructions:

Edit $:/config/EditTabIndex and give it a text field "1"

Will allow you to do a lot less tabbing (you still have to go through the 
tag field).


On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 10:06:27 AM UTC-7, leeand00 wrote:
>
> Is there a keyboard shortcut to jump directly to the tiddler title when 
> editing the body and vice versa?
>
> Sincerely, 
>Tired of tabbing.
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SideEditor 2.0 - A live editor floating by the river side...

[Mat]

amreus wrote:
>
> I too am still using SideEditor - quick and convenient. I like the recent 
> addition of the "toolbar" and buttons.  
>

(sssh, it ain't public yet)

I am experimenting with styles in TW and I think SideEditor is over-riding 
> my stylesheet. Can you confirm? 
>

You're right! And I found the bug. Will make (not announced) release 
tonight but if you're in a hurry: At bottom of  
$:/plugins/TWaddle/SideEditor/Window/Stylesheet  (circa fourth row from 
bottom) I mistakenly have included a  tag. If it is removed, things 
work.

Thank you very much for reporting.

<:-)

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[tw5] Keyboard shortcut to jump between tiddler title and tiddler body?

[leeand00]

Is there a keyboard shortcut to jump directly to the tiddler title when 
editing the body and vice versa?

Sincerely, 
   Tired of tabbing.

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[tw5] Re: Filter advanced search

[Bob Flandard]

Thanks Eric!

This also works. I'm impressed that you remember what you did and retrieve 
data from the large set of macros/functions you've written. I'm guessing 
you've got to hand some form of searchable database that allows the 
retrieval of bite-sized data chunks :)

Regards, Bob

On Sunday, 9 August 2020 16:00:49 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 5:04:13 AM UTC-7, Bob Flandard wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying and failing to write a filter expression that lists all 
>> tiddlers that are tagged "some name" (call this list of tiddlers resultA) 
>> and then extend that list to include all tiddlers that are tagged with the 
>> names in resultA. For the general case this would continue recursively 
>> until no new tiddlers were added to the list.
>>
>
> I did exactly this function as part of the InsideTW "page navigation" 
> interface.
>
> It does a recursive "walk" of a "tag tree", and generates a flat list of 
> tiddler titles:
>
> \define toc-list(here,max,exclude,level:"1")
> <$list filter="""[tag[$here$]] $exclude$ -[[$here$]]""">
><$link />
><$reveal default="$level$" type="nomatch" text="$max$">
>   <$macrocall $name="toc-list" here=<> max="$max$" 
> exclude="""$exclude$ -[[$here$]]""" level={{{ [[$level$]add[1]] }}}/>
>
> 
> \end
>
> Invoke it like this:
> <>
> where "some name" is the top-level tag for your tree.
>
> Notes:
> 1) There is also an optional "max" parameter to limit the depth of 
> traversal
> 2) The "exclude" and "level" parameters are only for internal use by the 
> macro itself
> 3) The default output just lists each title, one per line.  If you want a 
> bullet list, you could change this line:
> <$link />
> to this:
> <$link />
> and if you want a numbered list, also wrap the macro invocation within 
> ..., like this:
> <>
>
> enjoy,
> -e 
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter advanced search

[Bob Flandard]

Thanks Mark!

That seems to do the trick.

Regards, Bob

On Sunday, 9 August 2020 14:29:27 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> To do this in one step, like you want, you would probably need something 
> like the kin filter operator:
>
> https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-kin-filter/
>
> On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 5:04:13 AM UTC-7, Bob Flandard wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm trying and failing to write a filter expression that lists all 
>> tiddlers that are tagged "some name" (call this list of tiddlers resultA) 
>> and then extend that list to include all tiddlers that are tagged with the 
>> names in resultA. For the general case this would continue recursively 
>> until no new tiddlers were added to the list.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks, Bob
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter advanced search

[Eric Shulman]

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 5:04:13 AM UTC-7, Bob Flandard wrote:
>
> I'm trying and failing to write a filter expression that lists all 
> tiddlers that are tagged "some name" (call this list of tiddlers resultA) 
> and then extend that list to include all tiddlers that are tagged with the 
> names in resultA. For the general case this would continue recursively 
> until no new tiddlers were added to the list.
>

I did exactly this function as part of the InsideTW "page navigation" 
interface.

It does a recursive "walk" of a "tag tree", and generates a flat list of 
tiddler titles:

\define toc-list(here,max,exclude,level:"1")
<$list filter="""[tag[$here$]] $exclude$ -[[$here$]]""">
   <$link />
   <$reveal default="$level$" type="nomatch" text="$max$">
  <$macrocall $name="toc-list" here=<> max="$max$" 
exclude="""$exclude$ -[[$here$]]""" level={{{ [[$level$]add[1]] }}}/>
   

\end

Invoke it like this:
<>
where "some name" is the top-level tag for your tree.

Notes:
1) There is also an optional "max" parameter to limit the depth of traversal
2) The "exclude" and "level" parameters are only for internal use by the 
macro itself
3) The default output just lists each title, one per line.  If you want a 
bullet list, you could change this line:
<$link />
to this:
<$link />
and if you want a numbered list, also wrap the macro invocation within 
..., like this:
<>

enjoy,
-e 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Time Tracking in TiddlyWiki?

[Eric Shulman]

Update August 9 7:43am PDT: http://TiddlyTools.com/timer.html

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 3:08:53 AM UTC-7, Pit.W. wrote:

No problems running it so far. It exactly meets what I need for a task I am 
> working on, so I use it for productivity. All fine so far.
>
 
found a few configuration bugs... see below...  get the update!

Do you plan to pack this into a plugin?
>

Probably.. but not yet. 

I propose to set the default formats for date and time to ISO 8601 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601, to ease the use for newcomers.
>

Agreed.  See update notes below: 

* use ISO 8601 date format for Timer, Clocks, AutoSaver, WorldClocks, 
SidebarClocks
* note: Clocks, WorldClocks, SidebarClocks also show day name in addition 
to ISO 8601
* note: WorldClocks also always shows timezone offsets (using "+00:00" 
format)
* Timer - use "ticker_temp" instead of "temp" (was colliding with Clocks 
macros)
* Clocks - use "clock_temp" instead of "temp" (was colliding with Timer 
macros)
* WorldClocks - use "world_format" configuration for easier customization
* SidebarClocks - use sidebar_format (was using default clock_format by 
mistake)
* Info - added WorldClocks setup (world_format), revised WorldClocks info 
to match setup

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: Filter advanced search

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

To do this in one step, like you want, you would probably need something 
like the kin filter operator:

https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-kin-filter/

On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 5:04:13 AM UTC-7, Bob Flandard wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying and failing to write a filter expression that lists all 
> tiddlers that are tagged "some name" (call this list of tiddlers resultA) 
> and then extend that list to include all tiddlers that are tagged with the 
> names in resultA. For the general case this would continue recursively 
> until no new tiddlers were added to the list.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks, Bob
>

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[tw5] Advice for a iOS and iPadOS only user

[IvanPsy]

Greetings,
The more I read about TiddlyWiki the more I think is the right tool for my 
second brain.
I think Stroll has all the features I need, such as bi-directional links, 
reference links, autocompletion, etc...

I have just one question...

Considering I’m only on iPhone and iPad, and that I want to keep all local 
(synced on iCloud) can I have all these feature while working on such 
devices too?
I read Quine 2 is the only tool to manage a TiddlyWiki on iOS and iPadOS: 
can I have those features while working on Quine 2?
How about inserting images and embedding videos from YouTube?

I have access on a PC (Windows), so starting on a PC to setup the base is 
not a problem for me, nor accessing fro ma PC here and there for 
maintenance purposes, but the daily work would be on an iPhone and an iPad.

Thank you!

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[tw5] Filter advanced search

[Bob Flandard]

Hello,

I'm trying and failing to write a filter expression that lists all tiddlers 
that are tagged "some name" (call this list of tiddlers resultA) and then 
extend that list to include all tiddlers that are tagged with the names in 
resultA. For the general case this would continue recursively until no new 
tiddlers were added to the list.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Bob

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[tw5] simple intenal svg switch (not using button widget)

[A Gloom]

For a simple internal button for a svg with activation of a svg 
element/animation without having to use button widget.

(haven't been at the computer enough to type up the explanation for 
tattered tiddlers but this little gem I was able to type up, sneak peek at 
tattered tiddlers below)

In code below the  has an unique id (startButton) 
that the  animate element 
begin="startButton.click" attribute will use to activate the animation with 
the trigger button click.

In attached example tiddler, button activates a bar graph block that grows 
from 0 seconds to 8 seconds the minimum, maximum scale marks on the graph.

Any svg shape can be made into a button.  Appears that a button controls 
one element/group/animation ot animation chain.

Use case: having invisible svg markings or annotations over a embedded 
image, foreign object (for a tiddler or iframe) that will appear when the 
internal svg button is clicked.  Another example: an embedded Google map in 
an foreign object iframe with an invisible route that becomes visible with 
a button click


svg code from MDN svg animate begin attribute 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/SVG/Attribute/begin

http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; version="1.1" 
xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;>






Click me.

0s

2s

4s

6s

8s





[image: parch1.jpg]

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Description: Binary data

Re: [tw5] Re: Time Tracking in TiddlyWiki?

[Pit.W.]

Eric,

1. No problems running it so far. It exactly meets what I need for a
   task I am working on, so I use it for productivity. All fine so far.
2. Do you plan to pack this into a plugin?
3. I propose to set the default formats for date and time to ISO 8601
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601, to ease the use for newcomers.

Thanks as always,

Pit.W


Am 09.08.2020 um 02:40 schrieb Eric Shulman:

Update August 8, 17:22pm (PDT): http://TiddlyTools.com/timer.html

* There are a number of significant changes in this update:

1) TiddlyTools/Timer/AnalogClock and TiddlyTools/Timer/DigitalClock 
has been combined into TiddlyTools/Timer/Clocks
2) This new combined Clocks tiddler no longer uses "templated 
transclusion" (e.g., {{||TiddlyTools/Timer/AnalogClock}}) to embed a 
clock in a tiddler.
3) Instead, the new Clocks tiddler defines a <> *macro* that 
can be used to embed either the analog or digital clock.
4) This macro also includes parameters for specifying the timezone 
"offset" and an optional "format" override for the digital clock.
5) The SidebarClock and WorldClocks tiddlers have been updated to use 
the new <> macro instead of transclusions.
6) The WorldClocks tiddler has also been updated to provide a 
multi-select list for choosing which places to display.
7) A new tiddler, TiddlyTools/Timer/Places, has been added to define 
the list of available places for use with the WorldClocks tiddler.


Documentation for all of the above changes in syntax and usage have 
been updated in TiddlyTools/Timer/Info.


Note that, while these changes do not alter the overall functionality, 
they do make usage and customization easier and more consistent
by using macro parameters to control clock options, rather than 
defining "context variables" to pass those values to the underlying code.


Hopefully these changes don't cause too much grief for anyone who had 
been using the previous version...


Please let me know right away if you run into any problems with using 
this update.


enjoy,
-e




On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 8:38:39 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:

update August 5, 08:30: http://TiddlyTools.com/timer.html


* AnalogClock/DigitalClock - handle leap years in "days per month"
(dpm) calculations in adjustForTimezone()

|
<$vars   leap={{{
[divide[4]split[.]count[]match[1]then[yes]] }}}>
<$set    name="dpm" value="31 28 31 30 31 30 31 31 30 31 30 31">

<$set    name="dpm" filter="[!match[]]" value="31 29 31 30
31 30 31 31 30 31 30 31" emptyValue=<>>
|

Be sure to update before the end of February 2024 (the next leap year)
This will be accurate until the year 2100 (which is NOT a leap year)

-e

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SideEditor 2.0 - A live editor floating by the river side...

[amreus]

I too am still using SideEditor - quick and convenient. I like the recent 
addition of the "toolbar" and buttons.  

I am experimenting with styles in TW and I think SideEditor is over-riding 
my stylesheet. Can you confirm?  I made a sandbox site here:

http://beach.tiddlyspot.com 

It is a version 5.1.22 empty other than SideEditor and a Stylesheet.

Thanks

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 3:54:34 AM UTC-4 Mat wrote:

> Jon wrote:
>>
>> After using SideEditor for a week or so, it's now my default method - 
>> really useful!
>>
>
> Happy to hear that!
>
> <:-)
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