[tw5] Google Groups Forum Changes

2020-08-21 Thread TW Tones
Folks,

Have you seen the message, at least on the online forum?, where I live, I 
tend not to subscribe to emails

> The new Google Groups offers all your favourite features with a fresh look 
> and will replace classic Groups soon


I urge you to look and complain, where it does not at least provide 
equivalence. Google Groups is not perfect but many of us depend on it, so 
please do not wait until it is too late.

Thanks
Tones

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[tw5] Re: An Intertwingularity Mapping Project with TiddlyWiki: ADHD Slice'n Dice

2020-08-21 Thread TW Tones
Charlie,

Thanks for sharing, and best of luck with these challenges, although often 
different, we all face challenges, with a big one time to time, but most 
only make us stronger. 

I think writing is a good idea, but even more so if you work to build a 
larger resource, if not only for yourself. I am looking at writing my first 
book, only considering it at the moment, but I too plan to make use of 
tiddlywiki as a platform on which to build a knowledge network. 

I too have faced retrenchment due to business changing, twice actually, sad 
to hear for you it coincided with these other issues in your life. There is 
no reason to thank your former employer, but it is an opportunity for the 
new, and perhaps even better, it forces you out of your comfort zone and 
opens so many new possibilities. This will all be your own effort and you 
can take full responsibility for your successes, when they come.

Please do remain connected and sharing with the community, for support and 
input.

Regards
Tones.

On Saturday, 22 August 2020 05:17:15 UTC+10, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
> Blog entry:  An Intertwingularity Mapping Project with TiddlyWiki: ADHD 
> Slice'n Dice 
> 
>
> I went on sick leave back in late January.  Since being diagnosed with 
> ADHD (attention deficiency) last May, I've been really eager to have a 
> dialog at work about very small and simple changes that could help make me 
> successful in my job ( a job I've been successfully since 1995, but was 
> finding impossibly challenging over the last two years because of 
> overwhelming increase in communications/meetings.)
>
> That turned into my job position being eliminated, me being demoted and 
> put into a newly created job position.  Although I think it will all 
> workout as being a good thing, it is still a pretty traumatizing surprise 
> when I went into a return to work meeting thinking we'd be having a dialog 
> about making my previous job work, and starting the meeting off with a 
> "your position has been eliminated."
>
> All that said: don't cry for me Argentina!  I take lemons and make 
> lemonade.  Work will be awesome once I get through all the stages of grief.
>
> To me, the greatest way to process things is to write.  So what a great 
> time to tie a whole bunch of things in this old sponge of mine together.
>
> As I truck along, if anybody has any ideas/questions/comments/anything you 
> want to lob my way related to any of this (TiddlyWiki setup/tweaks to 
> organize content; ADHD resources/questions; "Intertwingularity Mapping"; 
> anything at all!) , please gimme gimme gimme anytime !
>
> Cheers, best regards, and Happy Friday/Saturday !
>

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[tw5] Re: Server online indicator, and what causes disconnect?

2020-08-21 Thread TW Tones
It may help sharing which server are you using?

Eg Bob, Bob.exe, Tiddly-server, simple Node?...

I don't know why they charge so much for static IP Addresses? I think its 
mean.

Since tiddlywiki can live inside the browser the possibility the IP address 
changing underneath is possibly a problem, unless the saver you use uses an 
Domain name address that updates with the change in IP Address, eg captured 
using a Dynamic DNS,

Regards
Tones


On Saturday, 22 August 2020 05:50:37 UTC+10, Calvino wrote:
>
> In the client / server configuration, I get messages that say the server 
> is disconnected. Is there a way to make a visual indicator on the page that 
> the server is on or offline at any particular moment?
>
> I'm also interested in whether the reason it goes offline might be an IP 
> change at the ISP, which is handled by Dynamic DNS. Coupled with sef-signed 
> SSL, this can be a little difficult because the browser will put a block on 
> the address, which can only be manually undone by mucking around with the 
> "HSTS" settings (difficult in Chrome, easier in FFox)
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Calling the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command directly on a .html TW

2020-08-21 Thread TW Tones
Adithya

I think the answer is firmly no, but since I don't use commands against 
tiddlywiki but tend to operate inside wikis, I can assure you can achieve 
the same inside tiddlywiki by other means. In the pre-release there is a 
method to zip files so generated from within the interactive tiddlywiki. It 
is possible from inside the browser for both server and single file wikis.

What are you using this command to achieve? - you have now answered.?
Do you know this is deprecated now and you should 
use https://tiddlywiki.com/#RenderCommand ?

I posted recently on using the export facility for this.

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, 22 August 2020 14:12:16 UTC+10, Adithya B wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to use the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command on a 
> single-file html TW?
>
> I have been using the -load and -rendertiddlers commands seperately using 
> an node server. 
>
> I prefer to keep my TW as a single file for now. There is a usecase in 
> mind which can work if the command can be used directly.
>
> Cheers,
> Adithya
>

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[tw5] Re: Calling the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command directly on a .html TW

2020-08-21 Thread Adithya B
Hi Mark,

My specific use is for generating my static webpage using TW5. 

To do this, I have been first calling 'tiddlywiki -load wikifile.html" and 
then "tiddlywiki --rendertiddler " to render the static 
website. My question is if the first step can be omited somehow.

I hope that clarifies the problem.

Cheers,
Adithya


On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 9:56:42 AM UTC+5:30 Mark S. wrote:

> You can use tiddlyserver to serve up single file TW files as if they were 
> a data folder (node) instance.
>
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 9:12:16 PM UTC-7, Adithya B wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is it possible to use the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command on a 
>> single-file html TW?
>>
>> I have been using the -load and -rendertiddlers commands seperately using 
>> an node server. 
>>
>> I prefer to keep my TW as a single file for now. There is a usecase in 
>> mind which can work if the command can be used directly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adithya
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Effective ways to use Tiddlywiki?

2020-08-21 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Bimlas

bimlas wrote:
>
> Sorry to fill this thread with my ideas, but I feel like they fit the 
> title of the topic.


Developing an explicit overview of taggery & linking for TW using examples 
is a very good idea! 

I think on the one hand I understood how the concept of "hashtag" came into 
> being, on the other hand I found a (I think) better use for it.
>

The widespread use of hashtaggery in social media (Twitter, Instagram, 
Facebook, Linkedin, Telegram etc) emerged first on Twitter in 2007.

At first the experiments using hashtags were met with skepticism. Partly 
because the simple idea that any of your "content" text AS your "label" 
identifiers kinda broke some conventions in writing. But hashtags quickly 
caught on and are a very elegant, compact and are non-duplicating (of 
fields). Easy to maintain in simple editing. Can support as few or as many 
as needed. Can be totally part of text flow or just listed in content.

I like them. For many, many use cases they are perfectly good and easy and 
require no special fields creating or maintaining.

The one thing that is sometimes an issue is that using hashtags in content 
text won't always work well for the reader. What I mean is that hashtaggery 
is both a tagging system AND a recent "*writing convention*". For many 
academic texts, for instance, it won't work as it breaks their "writers 
style manuals".
 

> I want to group the recipes to see their properties in a list, e.g. that 
> if I look at the list of pasta foods, I want to know if that food also 
> contains sour cream.
>

Right. Its a good example of leveraging hashtags for TW using alongside 
other fields.

Just FYI the Twitter method of using hashtags makes them ...

   - case insensitive (both #Buddha & #buddha work the same)
   - drop irrelevant punctuation to enable full text context integration 
   (e.g. "At that time #Buddha's interest was in ..." is treated as #buddha) 

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Do you find that TiddlyWiki is faster in Chromium than Firefox?

2020-08-21 Thread Sebastian Theilhaber
Seems to be my experience too.

On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 11:03:42 PM UTC+10 si wrote:

> I recently tried out my wiki in Brave (Chromium based) rather than Firefox 
> and noticed that it was a little snappier.
>
> Saving tiddlers is measurably faster and there is a lot less lag when 
> using edit-text boxes (in my case the side-editor plug-in).
>
> *Is it generally the case that TW runs a little better in Chrome than 
> Firefox or is my experience just the result of the idiosyncrasies of my 
> particular system?*
>
> Note: I'm using Windows10 and Timimi to save for both browsers.
>

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[tw5] Re: Calling the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command directly on a .html TW

2020-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
You can use tiddlyserver to serve up single file TW files as if they were a 
data folder (node) instance.

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 9:12:16 PM UTC-7, Adithya B wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to use the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command on a 
> single-file html TW?
>
> I have been using the -load and -rendertiddlers commands seperately using 
> an node server. 
>
> I prefer to keep my TW as a single file for now. There is a usecase in 
> mind which can work if the command can be used directly.
>
> Cheers,
> Adithya
>

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[tw5] Calling the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command directly on a .html TW

2020-08-21 Thread Adithya B
Hi,

Is it possible to use the tiddlywiki --rendertiddlers command on a 
single-file html TW?

I have been using the -load and -rendertiddlers commands seperately using 
an node server. 

I prefer to keep my TW as a single file for now. There is a usecase in mind 
which can work if the command can be used directly.

Cheers,
Adithya

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[tw5] Re: Smart Tiddlywiki + Tiddloid + Notebook

2020-08-21 Thread Morgaine O'Herne
I'm curious to know how it compares to Andtidwiki.

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 11:25:42 AM UTC-6 Atronoush wrote:

> This may be the simplest and quickest note taking method using lovely 
> Tiddlywiki on Android devices.
>
> 1. Install Tiddloid from https://github.com/donmor/Tiddloid/releases Tiddloid 
> lets you to work with Tiddlywiki as local file or cloud files
> 2. Open Tiddloid and tap three dots top right and then fork a website
> 3. Enter the url of  Nocolas Petton Project Manager Tiddlywiki 
> https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/project-manager.html
> 4. Tiddloid will open it, save with a name you like on your device or 
> Google Drive
> 5. See the control at the bottom of page
> 6. Create a Tiddler
> 7. Start typing this time using Android Voice Typing from your Keyboard
> 8. Enjoy
>
> This lets you use AI for creating notes in Tiddlywiki of course it only 
> types for you and does not take any action! But, it is not very far to tell 
> tiddlywiki: *create a tiddler* and it follows your instructions :-)
>
>
>- Note
>
> You can use your own Tiddlywiki in Tiddloid with Nicolas Petton Notebook 
> theme from his project manager. Notebook theme from Nicolas Petton 
> https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/project-manager.html. Notebook is Tiddlywiki 
> theme for small screen and behaves like a mobile app
>
> Atro
>

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[tw5] Re: Effective ways to use Tiddlywiki?

2020-08-21 Thread TW Tones
Bimlas,

With related thinking I think because we have links and tags we sometime 
forget any standard implemented text can subsequently be searched and at a 
minimum list tiddler containing that string eg §Pasta #pasta whether that 
string is a link, backlink or "naked". With the search highlighter and 
freelinks plugins this is enhanced even further.

I am currently working on a tool called "advanced search indicators". It 
monitors the search string entered and responds according to a range of 
facts about the search string, like if it detects a system tiddler exists 
it lets you open them with a click, if it is also a tag it provides a tag 
pill to review it's members, View/edit, clone, open in new window and a lot 
more become one click away. basically to make a lot of things come alive 
for tiddlywiki it all *depends on what is searchable*.

My only piece to finish it is to determine if the search string is a prefix 
or a suffix to tiddlers to provide a click to list tiddlers so 
prefixed/suffixed, so almost finished. Although I am trying to automate the 
generation of a demo site for each of my project(s).

It would be easy to detect the search string starting with # and thus 
search for "hash tags", a view template that lists and links any hashtags 
found in a tiddler and more would extend hash tagging functionality. With 
my search indicator solution you don't need to touch the standard and 
advanced search mechanisms. This will allow you to choose [[#tagname]] 
#tagname #[[tagname even !#[[tagname]] and other forms (`<<# tagname>> 
{{||tagname}}` so as an author you can ask how you want that hash tag 
treated. This is the advantage of coding a solution once removed from the 
standard and advanced search process. this is all about the conventions you 
use and the tools that help implement them.

By the way how do you enter § from the keyboard?

In closing the relink plugin now makes a big difference to this kind of 
text convention because you can keep such strings up to date on changes.

The sky is not even the limit in tiddlywiki.

Regards
Tones




On Friday, 21 August 2020 22:07:49 UTC+10, bimlas wrote:
>
> Sorry to fill this thread with my ideas, but I feel like they fit the 
> title of the topic.
>
> I think on the one hand I understood how the concept of "hashtag" came 
> into being, on the other hand I found a (I think) better use for it.
>
> I want to group the recipes to see their properties in a list, e.g. that 
> if I look at the list of pasta foods, I want to know if that food also 
> contains sour cream.
>
> The advantage of tags and fields is that you can easily group notes with 
> them, so it's easy to filter recipes by ingredients field (this can 
> include, for example, "cheese" and "pasta"). Notes can be grouped 
> dynamically (although I am against the paper-based Zettelkasten), so I can 
> create a view where foods are grouped by main ingredient (pasta dishes) and 
> can be converted at the touch of a button to be grouped by additive (cheese 
> dishes) .
>
> Thinking of Index notes and Link-based navigation, this is harder to 
> accomplish than with fields: if I want to link to pizza, the pasta note 
> index note should have a "cheese dishes" category, and the cheese food 
> index should have a "pasta dishes" category to easily I can find it no 
> matter where I start my search. This information is a duplication because 
> we are talking about the same food (pizza), but depending on the view, I 
> categorize it into several categories (in both cases it is the "cheese" and 
> "pasta" categories, only the "parent category" is different). The solution 
> is to have only one topic in an index without subcategories: pasta dishes 
> should be just a simple list, there should be no "cheese" category in it, 
> just as there should be no "pasta" category in cheese dishes. If I want to 
> know about pasta dishes with cheese, I can only get it by query.
>
> One solution is for a note about a particular food (pizza) to link to the 
> "properties" that are true to it (for "Cheese" and "Pasta" notes), so index 
> notes are built based on backlinks, you don't have to list yourself them in 
> each related index. This way I can find out which note has a link to both: 
> I can either use the "[[Pasta]backlinks[]] ..." filter, or if the note 
> title is like an API method 
> ,
>  
> just "[[Pasta]] [[Cheese]]" text.
>
> The problem with this is that I don’t want to disfigure useful backlinks 
> with links that only use the ingredient at the mention level (any cheese 
> dish would link to the “Cheese” note, though only to indicate that this 
> ingredient needs to be added as well, but the note is not really about the 
> cheese itself). In this respect, it would be worthwhile to create "property 
> notes" that would only be used in this respect, e.g. "§Cheese" and 
> "§Pasta": their backlinks are guaranteed to contain o

[tw5] Re: clean and tidy html static template

2020-08-21 Thread TW Tones
Lukasz,

If static tiddlers are enough, for your exported content, I suggest 
researching existing methods. Within such static tiddlers, there is a lot 
of room to play. 

However if you want to craft other html standard pages I suggest you look 
into the export process to start with. If you go to output a static tiddler 
in uses a template to construct the HTML page. You could make your own 
templates for generating html pages, I would still base it on a tiddler, so 
you can automate tiddler generation that is subsequently used for page 
generation, but you can make the exported result drastically different if 
you want.

Tiddlywiki is a great platform to use as a Site Generator, software 
development kit, code editor and a lot more for designers.

Learning how to research how to do something, by learning how to follow, 
how tiddlywiki already does something similar, is a learning investment in 
the future.

but then feel free to ask here, as your questions become more specific.

Regards
Tones

 


On Saturday, 22 August 2020 07:58:21 UTC+10, grouchysmurf wrote:
>
> Cheers, fellow Tiddlywikers (does such a word even exist?).
>
> I spent last few days on reading about TW and exploring its abilities, all 
> that interrupted by frequent gasps of astonishment. TW presumably is what 
> I've been looking for but, on the other hand, it may be just slightly too 
> much to make most of it--therefore my post here.
>
> What I am looking, in fact, is a static site generator. I know TW is 
> capable of generating static html files and I even managed to generate one 
> or two such files. Even more--I dabbled with files and managed to adjust it 
> to my liking.
>
> My goal is to generate many static html files, which could then be 
> seasoned with a class-less CSS. HTML needs to simple, html -> body -> some 
> lists, maybe few paragraphs. There will be like tens or hundreds of such 
> files, each file would represent a single entity of a specific object. 
> While these objects are not directly associated to each other, they share 
> the underlying model and taxonomy. I would also need to generate aggregates 
> i.e. lists displaying all entities meeting certain criterias.
>
> Say, a database of cars, and I would like then to view all cars of 
> selected make or all cars with diesel engine.
>
> I could store all the data in CSV file and make a simple bash script to 
> generate static files. I made so many times in the past and while it works, 
> the downside is that after a while I forget how one uses the toolchain I 
> came up with so tend to recreate it from the scratch. As fun as it is, with 
> years passing by and myself getting older, I have now no time for such 
> pasttimes. I am looking for a solution that would allow me to extend the 
> database, regenerate the output without to much entry barrier after a month 
> or two.
>
> Now, TW seems to be a perfect tool for that. It allows for creating 
> flexible taxonomies and data models (either through tags or fields); use of 
> list widget is only limited by one's creativity and imagination.
>
> On the other hand--it offers so much more and is so complex, I didn't 
> fully manage to create a html template that would output JUST a doctype, h1 
> element followed by wikified text of a tiddler. For some reason, right 
> after body element there is a dangling p element that can't find a way to 
> remove. I spent whole today's evening to have TW generate the output as I 
> wanted to have--to no avail.
>
> After this long-winded introduction, two questions:
>
> 1. am I looking at the right tool here? Or you'd rather recommend 
> something less robust and powerful, from the lack of better terms? I don't 
> care about all JS UI features TW offers so maybe I am stripping away too 
> much of the features to make the effort worthwhile.
>
> 2. would someone mind providing me a tip or two as to how one creates a 
> bare-bone html output of a tiddler? I followed some of the guides, in 
> particular guide related to generating static output in which the author 
> also provides a meaningful insight as to how tinker with ViewTemplate to 
> adjust it for one's need. I followed it but, as I said, the results, while 
> close, are not perfect.
>
> Apologies for lack of brevity.
>
> Most kind regards,
> Lukasz
>

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[tw5] Re: Dropdown menu to add one tag and remove another?

2020-08-21 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:49:49 PM UTC-7, Beckstrom wrote:
>
> What I'd like is to be able to have a dropdown menu of 3 items for 
> instance: "inbox" "in progress" "done," and when I select one of them, that 
> tag is added and the other two (if they exist in the tiddler) are removed.
>

Give this a try:
<$button popup=<>>
   status:
   <$text text={{{ [tag[inbox]then[inbox]] }}}/>
   <$text text={{{ [tag[in progress]then[in progress]] }}}/>
   <$text text={{{ [tag[done]then[done]] }}}/>
   <$text text={{{ [!tag[inbox]!tag[in 
progress]!tag[done]then[none]] }}}/>

<$reveal type="popup" state=<> 
class="tc-drop-down" style="min-width:auto;">
   <$button class="tc-btn-invisible"> none
  <$action-listops $tags="-[[inbox]] -[[in progress]] -[[done]]"/>
   
   <$button class="tc-btn-invisible"> inbox
  <$action-listops $tags="[[inbox]] -[[in progress]] -[[done]]"/>
   
   <$button class="tc-btn-invisible"> in progress
  <$action-listops $tags="[[in progress]] -[[inbox]] -[[done]]"/>
   
   <$button class="tc-btn-invisible"> done
  <$action-listops $tags="[[done]] -[[inbox]] -[[in progress]]"/>
   


Notes:
1) The $button text shows the current status (none, inbox, in progress, 
done)
2) Clicking the $button shows a tc-drop-down containing four $buttons, one 
for each status value
3) The $buttons in the tc-drop-down use $action-listops to add the desired 
tag and remove the others
4) The "none" button removes all the status tags

To use:
1) Put the above into a tiddler (e.g., "SetStatus")
2) Transclude it into another tiddler using {{||SetStatus}}

Alternatively, if you want to add this to the tiddler toolbar for all 
tiddlers:
1) Put the above into a tiddler (e.g., "SetStatus")
2) Add tag "$:/tags/ViewToolbar"

Let me know how it goes...

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Dropdown menu to add one tag and remove another?

2020-08-21 Thread Beckstrom
Here's my use-case: I'm using TW as a task tracking system, and I'm using 
tags like "in progress" and "done" to show the status of a given 
tiddler/task (I call them "tidos" :-) )

What I'd like is to be able to have a dropdown menu of 3 items for 
instance: "inbox" "in progress" "done," and when I select one of them, that 
tag is added and the other two (if they exist in the tiddler) are removed. 
If I click the dropdown and choose "done," if the tiddler has the tag 
"inbox" or "in progress," those tags are removed, and the tag "done" is 
added

I know I can do this with fields, and that works too, except I'm using 
Dropboard (awesome! http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard ) which 
uses tags to move cards around. I'm primarily wanting this functionality 
because I can't move cards in Dropboard on my phone (something about HTML5 
support I think)

I've been trying lots of stuff but can't get it quite the way I want... 
does anybody know if this is possible? Thanks in advance!

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[tw5] Re: [ Streams ] : feedback and issues

2020-08-21 Thread Keelan Cook
I know not what magic you have worked here, but I like it! 

No errors this time. This is a great improvement on the search. Having that 
second tab dedicated to streams allows both a regular search and the option 
to filter out the chaff in a stream and focus on the main tiddler. That's 
perfect. And, it's unobtrusive too. 

In fact, it's already allowed me to locate some dangling tiddlers with no 
content that had somehow been removed from my streams. So, I was able to 
tidy up a bit. 

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 2:44:53 PM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Keelan,
>
> Apologies, I may not have been diligent enough with error handling.
>
> Try the following steps please:
> 1) try using the search at 
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsq%2Fstreams-search
>  and 
> see if there is an error
>
> 2) If there isn't an error, try grabbing the updated plugin and try it on 
> your wiki.
>
> If either steps gives the same error, in your browser press Ctrl+Shift+I 
> to open the developer console. In the "Console" tab, if there is an error 
> message in red, click on it to expand and post a screenshot please.
>
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 8:27:58 PM UTC+2, Keelan Cook wrote:
>>
>> Well, I may have done something wrong in installation, but it's kicking 
>> an error back at me.
>>
>> The error comes as soon as I click into the search bar to type something. 
>> I've attempted a refresh to no avail. When I disable the new plugin and 
>> refresh, the error is gone. 
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2020-08-21 at 2.25.16 PM.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Keelan, install this and let me know if it gets us in the ballpark of 
>>> helpful search behaviour:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsq%2Fstreams-search
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] clean and tidy html static template

2020-08-21 Thread grouchysmurf
Cheers, fellow Tiddlywikers (does such a word even exist?).

I spent last few days on reading about TW and exploring its abilities, all 
that interrupted by frequent gasps of astonishment. TW presumably is what 
I've been looking for but, on the other hand, it may be just slightly too 
much to make most of it--therefore my post here.

What I am looking, in fact, is a static site generator. I know TW is 
capable of generating static html files and I even managed to generate one 
or two such files. Even more--I dabbled with files and managed to adjust it 
to my liking.

My goal is to generate many static html files, which could then be seasoned 
with a class-less CSS. HTML needs to simple, html -> body -> some lists, 
maybe few paragraphs. There will be like tens or hundreds of such files, 
each file would represent a single entity of a specific object. While these 
objects are not directly associated to each other, they share the 
underlying model and taxonomy. I would also need to generate aggregates 
i.e. lists displaying all entities meeting certain criterias.

Say, a database of cars, and I would like then to view all cars of selected 
make or all cars with diesel engine.

I could store all the data in CSV file and make a simple bash script to 
generate static files. I made so many times in the past and while it works, 
the downside is that after a while I forget how one uses the toolchain I 
came up with so tend to recreate it from the scratch. As fun as it is, with 
years passing by and myself getting older, I have now no time for such 
pasttimes. I am looking for a solution that would allow me to extend the 
database, regenerate the output without to much entry barrier after a month 
or two.

Now, TW seems to be a perfect tool for that. It allows for creating 
flexible taxonomies and data models (either through tags or fields); use of 
list widget is only limited by one's creativity and imagination.

On the other hand--it offers so much more and is so complex, I didn't fully 
manage to create a html template that would output JUST a doctype, h1 
element followed by wikified text of a tiddler. For some reason, right 
after body element there is a dangling p element that can't find a way to 
remove. I spent whole today's evening to have TW generate the output as I 
wanted to have--to no avail.

After this long-winded introduction, two questions:

1. am I looking at the right tool here? Or you'd rather recommend something 
less robust and powerful, from the lack of better terms? I don't care about 
all JS UI features TW offers so maybe I am stripping away too much of the 
features to make the effort worthwhile.

2. would someone mind providing me a tip or two as to how one creates a 
bare-bone html output of a tiddler? I followed some of the guides, in 
particular guide related to generating static output in which the author 
also provides a meaningful insight as to how tinker with ViewTemplate to 
adjust it for one's need. I followed it but, as I said, the results, while 
close, are not perfect.

Apologies for lack of brevity.

Most kind regards,
Lukasz

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[tw5] Server online indicator, and what causes disconnect?

2020-08-21 Thread Calvino
In the client / server configuration, I get messages that say the server is 
disconnected. Is there a way to make a visual indicator on the page that 
the server is on or offline at any particular moment?

I'm also interested in whether the reason it goes offline might be an IP 
change at the ISP, which is handled by Dynamic DNS. Coupled with sef-signed 
SSL, this can be a little difficult because the browser will put a block on 
the address, which can only be manually undone by mucking around with the 
"HSTS" settings (difficult in Chrome, easier in FFox)


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[tw5] An Intertwingularity Mapping Project with TiddlyWiki: ADHD Slice'n Dice

2020-08-21 Thread Charlie J Veniot
Blog entry:  An Intertwingularity Mapping Project with TiddlyWiki: ADHD 
Slice'n Dice 


I went on sick leave back in late January.  Since being diagnosed with ADHD 
(attention deficiency) last May, I've been really eager to have a dialog at 
work about very small and simple changes that could help make me successful 
in my job ( a job I've been successfully since 1995, but was finding 
impossibly challenging over the last two years because of overwhelming 
increase in communications/meetings.)

That turned into my job position being eliminated, me being demoted and put 
into a newly created job position.  Although I think it will all workout as 
being a good thing, it is still a pretty traumatizing surprise when I went 
into a return to work meeting thinking we'd be having a dialog about making 
my previous job work, and starting the meeting off with a "your position 
has been eliminated."

All that said: don't cry for me Argentina!  I take lemons and make 
lemonade.  Work will be awesome once I get through all the stages of grief.

To me, the greatest way to process things is to write.  So what a great 
time to tie a whole bunch of things in this old sponge of mine together.

As I truck along, if anybody has any ideas/questions/comments/anything you 
want to lob my way related to any of this (TiddlyWiki setup/tweaks to 
organize content; ADHD resources/questions; "Intertwingularity Mapping"; 
anything at all!) , please gimme gimme gimme anytime !

Cheers, best regards, and Happy Friday/Saturday !

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[tw5] Re: [ Streams ] : feedback and issues

2020-08-21 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Hi Keelan,

Apologies, I may not have been diligent enough with error handling.

Try the following steps please:
1) try using the search at 
https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsq%2Fstreams-search
 and 
see if there is an error

2) If there isn't an error, try grabbing the updated plugin and try it on 
your wiki.

If either steps gives the same error, in your browser press Ctrl+Shift+I to 
open the developer console. In the "Console" tab, if there is an error 
message in red, click on it to expand and post a screenshot please.


On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 8:27:58 PM UTC+2, Keelan Cook wrote:
>
> Well, I may have done something wrong in installation, but it's kicking an 
> error back at me.
>
> The error comes as soon as I click into the search bar to type something. 
> I've attempted a refresh to no avail. When I disable the new plugin and 
> refresh, the error is gone. 
>
> [image: Screenshot 2020-08-21 at 2.25.16 PM.png]
>
> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Keelan, install this and let me know if it gets us in the ballpark of 
>> helpful search behaviour:
>>
>>
>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsq%2Fstreams-search
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [ Streams ] : feedback and issues

2020-08-21 Thread Keelan Cook
Well, I may have done something wrong in installation, but it's kicking an 
error back at me.

The error comes as soon as I click into the search bar to type something. 
I've attempted a refresh to no avail. When I disable the new plugin and 
refresh, the error is gone. 

[image: Screenshot 2020-08-21 at 2.25.16 PM.png]

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Keelan, install this and let me know if it gets us in the ballpark of 
> helpful search behaviour:
>
>
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsq%2Fstreams-search
>
>
>

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[tw5] Smart Tiddlywiki + Tiddloid + Notebook

2020-08-21 Thread Atronoush Parsi
This may be the simplest and quickest note taking method using lovely
Tiddlywiki on Android devices.

1. Install Tiddloid from https://github.com/donmor/Tiddloid/releases Tiddloid
lets you to work with Tiddlywiki as local file or cloud files
2. Open Tiddloid and tap three dots top right and then fork a website
3. Enter the url of  Nocolas Petton Project Manager Tiddlywiki
https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/project-manager.html
4. Tiddloid will open it, save with a name you like on your device or
Google Drive
5. See the control at the bottom of page
6. Create a Tiddler
7. Start typing this time using Android Voice Typing from your Keyboard
8. Enjoy

This lets you use AI for creating notes in Tiddlywiki of course it only
types for you and does not take any action! But, it is not very far to tell
tiddlywiki: *create a tiddler* and it follows your instructions :-)


   - Note

You can use your own Tiddlywiki in Tiddloid with Nicolas Petton Notebook
theme from his project manager. Notebook theme from Nicolas Petton
https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/project-manager.html. Notebook is Tiddlywiki
theme for small screen and behaves like a mobile app

Atro

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to automatically link tiddlers on this Journal tiddler?

2020-08-21 Thread justinehe...@gmail.com
Thank you again, it worked! About the screenshot, sorry about that, idk how 
to put it in words but I'll keep it in mind. 

On Saturday, 22 August 2020 at 00:08:24 UTC+8 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 8:48:34 AM UTC-7, justinehe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello! This is what happened and it did not link the tiddlers that I made 
>> earlier :< (Idk if this helps but my journal has a color & an icon)
>
>
> If your tiddlers aren't tagged with "journal", they won't show up.  Here's 
> a modification that will show tiddlers where the *title* starts with a date:
>
> Replace the innermost part of the previously posted wikitext with:
> <$vars MM={{{ [addsuffix[.]addsuffix] }}}>
> <$list filter="[all[]prefixsort[]]">
><$link/>
> 
> 
>
> Notes:
> 1) The MM variable now includes a dot (e.g., ".MM")
> 2) The $list finds all tiddlers whose *title* starts with the current 
> MM value,  regardless of any tags.
>
> Let me know how it goes...
>
> -e
>
> P.S. Could you please stop posting screen snapshots unless the problem is 
> related to the layout itself.  Instead, use words to describe what you 
> see.  
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to automatically link tiddlers on this Journal tiddler?

2020-08-21 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 8:48:34 AM UTC-7, justinehe...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Hello! This is what happened and it did not link the tiddlers that I made 
> earlier :< (Idk if this helps but my journal has a color & an icon)


If your tiddlers aren't tagged with "journal", they won't show up.  Here's 
a modification that will show tiddlers where the *title* starts with a date:

Replace the innermost part of the previously posted wikitext with:
<$vars MM={{{ [addsuffix[.]addsuffix] }}}>
<$list filter="[all[]prefixsort[]]">
   <$link/>



Notes:
1) The MM variable now includes a dot (e.g., ".MM")
2) The $list finds all tiddlers whose *title* starts with the current 
MM value,  regardless of any tags.

Let me know how it goes...

-e

P.S. Could you please stop posting screen snapshots unless the problem is 
related to the layout itself.  Instead, use words to describe what you 
see.  

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to automatically link tiddlers on this Journal tiddler?

2020-08-21 Thread justinehe...@gmail.com
Hello! This is what happened and it did not link the tiddlers that I made 
earlier :< (Idk if this helps but my journal has a color & an icon)[image: 
Screenshot_1.png]
On Friday, 21 August 2020 at 23:32:43 UTC+8 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 6:35:23 AM UTC-7, justinehe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> So the tiddlers linked here goes on until 2020 and I wanted to 
>> automatically link it so that I don't have to edit it on this journal and 
>> put the dates and so on. Will u help me?
>>
>
> Here's a bit of wikitext that generates the list by year, month, and date:
> <$list filter="2018 2019 2020" variable="year">
><>
>
>   <$list filter="01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12" variable="month">
>  <>.<>
>  
> <$vars MM={{{ [addsuffix] }}}>
> <$list filter="[all[]tag[journal]sort[created]]">
><$list filter="[get[created]prefix
> then]">
>   <$link/>
>
> 
> 
>  
>   
>
> 
>
> Notes:
> 1) The outermost $list widget shows bullet items for each listed year
> 2) The next $list widget shows bullet items (indented) for each month
> 3) The $vars combines the year and month into a 6-digit string, "MM"
> 4) The next $list gets all tiddlers tagged with "journal", sorted by 
> creation date
> 5) The innermost $list finds tiddlers whose creation date starts with the 
> current MM value
> 6) A bullet item (indented) link to each matching tiddler is then shown
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to automatically link tiddlers on this Journal tiddler?

2020-08-21 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 6:35:23 AM UTC-7, justinehe...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> So the tiddlers linked here goes on until 2020 and I wanted to 
> automatically link it so that I don't have to edit it on this journal and 
> put the dates and so on. Will u help me?
>

Here's a bit of wikitext that generates the list by year, month, and date:
<$list filter="2018 2019 2020" variable="year">
   <>
   
  <$list filter="01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12" variable="month">
 <>.<>
 
<$vars MM={{{ [addsuffix] }}}>
<$list filter="[all[]sort[created]]">
   <$list filter="[get[created]prefix
then]">
  <$link/>
   


 
  
   


Notes:
1) The outermost $list widget shows bullet items for each listed year
2) The next $list widget shows bullet items (indented) for each month
3) The $vars combines the year and month into a 6-digit string, "MM"
4) The next $list gets all tiddlers, sorted by creation date
5) The innermost $list finds tiddlers whose creation date starts with the 
current MM value
6) A bullet item (indented) link to each matching tiddler is then shown

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: No newline in the quote part

2020-08-21 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 6:16:44 AM UTC-7, imleg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Plz check that the newline mark not shown in the quote part after render, 
> why this happpened. 
>
> I think the quote content should be
> export x
> export x
> export x
>
> like this. 
>

As with all web content (not just TiddlyWiki), HTML content is rendered 
"inline", which joins separate lines and reduces multiple spaces to single 
spaces.

Thus, the following:
foo bar
bazmumble frotz
gronk
snork  snerfle argle bargle

is displayed as:
foo bar baz mumble frotz gronk snork snerfle argle bargle

Blockquotes in wikitext (see 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Block%20Quotes%20in%20WikiText) are no exception.

To force a newline within HTML content, it is standard practice to embed 
 where you want the newline to occur.

Of course, this can be somewhat inconvenient when you have multiple lines 
of content for which you want each line to remain separate.

In this case, you can use CSS to control the "white-space" handling, like 
this:

line one
line two
line three


You can also accomplish this using a CSS *classname*:
 .whitespace { white-space:pre; } 


line one
line two
line three


The same CSS class technique can also be applied to TW wikitext 
blockquotes, like this:
 .whitespace { white-space:pre; } 

<<<.whitespace
line1
line2
line3
<<<

Note that, rather than putting the ... directly in the 
tiddler content, it is better to put it in a separate tiddler, tagged with 
$:/tags/Stylesheet, which will define the class once for use as many times 
as you like:

1) create a tiddler, e.g., MyStyles, containing:
.whitespace { white-space:pre; }

2) Use that CSS class anywhere you like:
<<<.whitespace
line 1
line 2
line 3
<<< 

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Is it possible to automatically link tiddlers on this Journal tiddler?

2020-08-21 Thread justinehe...@gmail.com
[image: photo_2020-08-21_21-29-57.jpg]

So the tiddlers linked here goes on ofc until 2020 and I wanted to 
automatically link it so that I don't have to edit it on this journal and 
put the dates and so on. Will u help me?

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[tw5] No newline in the quote part

2020-08-21 Thread imleg...@gmail.com

[image: t.png]

Plz check that the newline mark not shown in the quote part after render, 
why this happpened. 

I think the quote content should be
export x
export x
export x

like this. 

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[tw5] Re: Effective ways to use Tiddlywiki?

2020-08-21 Thread bimlas
Sorry to fill this thread with my ideas, but I feel like they fit the title 
of the topic.

I think on the one hand I understood how the concept of "hashtag" came into 
being, on the other hand I found a (I think) better use for it.

I want to group the recipes to see their properties in a list, e.g. that if 
I look at the list of pasta foods, I want to know if that food also 
contains sour cream.

The advantage of tags and fields is that you can easily group notes with 
them, so it's easy to filter recipes by ingredients field (this can 
include, for example, "cheese" and "pasta"). Notes can be grouped 
dynamically (although I am against the paper-based Zettelkasten), so I can 
create a view where foods are grouped by main ingredient (pasta dishes) and 
can be converted at the touch of a button to be grouped by additive (cheese 
dishes) .

Thinking of Index notes and Link-based navigation, this is harder to 
accomplish than with fields: if I want to link to pizza, the pasta note 
index note should have a "cheese dishes" category, and the cheese food 
index should have a "pasta dishes" category to easily I can find it no 
matter where I start my search. This information is a duplication because 
we are talking about the same food (pizza), but depending on the view, I 
categorize it into several categories (in both cases it is the "cheese" and 
"pasta" categories, only the "parent category" is different). The solution 
is to have only one topic in an index without subcategories: pasta dishes 
should be just a simple list, there should be no "cheese" category in it, 
just as there should be no "pasta" category in cheese dishes. If I want to 
know about pasta dishes with cheese, I can only get it by query.

One solution is for a note about a particular food (pizza) to link to the 
"properties" that are true to it (for "Cheese" and "Pasta" notes), so index 
notes are built based on backlinks, you don't have to list yourself them in 
each related index. This way I can find out which note has a link to both: 
I can either use the "[[Pasta]backlinks[]] ..." filter, or if the note 
title is like an API method 
,
 
just "[[Pasta]] [[Cheese]]" text.

The problem with this is that I don’t want to disfigure useful backlinks 
with links that only use the ingredient at the mention level (any cheese 
dish would link to the “Cheese” note, though only to indicate that this 
ingredient needs to be added as well, but the note is not really about the 
cheese itself). In this respect, it would be worthwhile to create "property 
notes" that would only be used in this respect, e.g. "§Cheese" and 
"§Pasta": their backlinks are guaranteed to contain only notes that "use" 
that property.

If I guess correctly, I now understood how the concept of the hashtag could 
have come into being ... o_O There is a clear identifier in the text 
("§Cheese"), on which I only get notes where this identifier is also 
included, so with this I group the notes by an identifier according to some 
aspect. The advantage of this kind of "tagging" is that there is no 
duplication of information: if I used real tags (eg TiddlyWiki tags field), 
on the one hand I would have to add the tags corresponding to the 
components to the notes, on the other hand they would be in the text (where 
I describe the recipe itself). Instead, if I use "special links" as a tag, 
I only need to use it once, yet I can interpret the links as a tag. Eg the 
recipe for pizza:

* Frozen [[§Pasta]]
* 1/4 kg [[§Cheese]]
* ...

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Re: [tw5] Re: Can this be toggled just like the feature in Notion?

2020-08-21 Thread jin
Thank u for giving some resources! I'll use this :DD


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On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 17:16, Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 1:12:05 AM UTC-7, jin wrote:
>>
>> I believe its called sliders here in tw5. I wanted to toggle the 2018
>> link as shown above in my tiddler so I can expand the other tiddlers inside
>> 2018 or not
>>
>
> "sliders" is old terminology from the original TiddlyWiki Classic (TWC)
> version,
> and "Nested Sliders" was a TWC plugin I created that could produce a wide
> variety of
> multi-level collapsible "outline-like" content (see
> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#NestedSlidersPluginInfo)
> However, the TWC "slider" and TiddlyTools NestedSlidersPlugin cannot be
> use with TW5.
>
> Instead, a similar ability is provided in TW5 by using a combination of
> <$button> and <$reveal>
> (see https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget), but to create a multi-level
> "tree view" as you
> have shown would be fairly complex and involve a lot of syntax.
>
> Fortunately, there is another approach that you can use in TW5 that is
> likely to be much more
> amenable to your needs.  The "Table of Contents" (TOC) macros provide a
> way to automatically
> generate several types of "tree views" (see
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Table-of-Contents%20Macros)
>
> Based on the appearance of the bullets in your example, my initial guess
> is that you might have created this list by hand, using syntax like this:
> * 2018
> ** 2018.01
> *** 2018.01.05 ...
> *** 2018.01.06 ...
> *** 2018.01.08 ...
> *** 2018.01.12 ...
> ** 2018.02
> *** 2018.01.05 ...
> *** 2018.01.08 ...
> *** 2018.01.14 ...
> *** 2018.01.16 ...
>
> To convert this "bullet list" to use a TOC macro, start by creating
> separate tiddlers for each of the levels above.
> Based on your posted example, you might already have done this.
>
> Thus, there would be tiddlers titled "2018", "2018.01", "2018.02", etc.,
> and of course, tiddlers titled
> "2018.01.05 ...", "2018.01.06 ...", etc.
>
> Next, to connect these tiddlers in a TOC "tree", you will add *tags* to
> each of the tiddlers, so that
> the "month" tiddlers (e.g., "2018.01", "2018.02", etc.) would be tagged
> with "2018", and the "daily"
> tiddlers (e.g., "2018.01.05...", "2018.01.06...", etc.) would be tagged
> with the corresponding
> "month" tiddler name (e.g. "2018.01"), while "2018.02.05...",
> 2018.02.08...", etc. would be tagged
> with "2018.02"... and so on.
>
> Then, to show these tiddlers as a tree that you can expand/collapse, you
> would use the following TOC macro:
> <>
>
> While the above might seem to be a lot of work, once it is set up, the
> process for adding to the tree is
> relatively simple.  For example, to add another entry under the "2018.02"
> branch, just view the "2018.02"
> tiddler and choose the "New Here" command from that tiddler's menu.  This
> will create a new tiddler
> that is automatically tagged with "2018.02" and will be listed in that
> branch of the tree.
>
> You can also just create a new tiddler using the "+" command from the
> sidebar and then add the desired tag
> by hand to place it wherever you want in the tree.
>
> Let me know how it goes...  good luck!
>
> -e
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Re: [tw5] Re: Can this be toggled just like the feature in Notion?

2020-08-21 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 1:12:05 AM UTC-7, jin wrote:
>
> I believe its called sliders here in tw5. I wanted to toggle the 2018 link 
> as shown above in my tiddler so I can expand the other tiddlers inside 2018 
> or not 
>

"sliders" is old terminology from the original TiddlyWiki Classic (TWC) 
version,
and "Nested Sliders" was a TWC plugin I created that could produce a wide 
variety of 
multi-level collapsible "outline-like" content (see 
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#NestedSlidersPluginInfo)
However, the TWC "slider" and TiddlyTools NestedSlidersPlugin cannot be use 
with TW5.

Instead, a similar ability is provided in TW5 by using a combination of 
<$button> and <$reveal>
(see https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget), but to create a multi-level 
"tree view" as you
have shown would be fairly complex and involve a lot of syntax.

Fortunately, there is another approach that you can use in TW5 that is 
likely to be much more
amenable to your needs.  The "Table of Contents" (TOC) macros provide a way 
to automatically
generate several types of "tree views" (see 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Table-of-Contents%20Macros)

Based on the appearance of the bullets in your example, my initial guess is 
that you might have created this list by hand, using syntax like this:
* 2018
** 2018.01
*** 2018.01.05 ...
*** 2018.01.06 ...
*** 2018.01.08 ...
*** 2018.01.12 ...
** 2018.02
*** 2018.01.05 ...
*** 2018.01.08 ...
*** 2018.01.14 ...
*** 2018.01.16 ...

To convert this "bullet list" to use a TOC macro, start by creating 
separate tiddlers for each of the levels above.
Based on your posted example, you might already have done this.

Thus, there would be tiddlers titled "2018", "2018.01", "2018.02", etc., 
and of course, tiddlers titled
"2018.01.05 ...", "2018.01.06 ...", etc.

Next, to connect these tiddlers in a TOC "tree", you will add *tags* to 
each of the tiddlers, so that
the "month" tiddlers (e.g., "2018.01", "2018.02", etc.) would be tagged 
with "2018", and the "daily"
tiddlers (e.g., "2018.01.05...", "2018.01.06...", etc.) would be tagged 
with the corresponding
"month" tiddler name (e.g. "2018.01"), while "2018.02.05...", 
2018.02.08...", etc. would be tagged
with "2018.02"... and so on.

Then, to show these tiddlers as a tree that you can expand/collapse, you 
would use the following TOC macro:
<>

While the above might seem to be a lot of work, once it is set up, the 
process for adding to the tree is
relatively simple.  For example, to add another entry under the "2018.02" 
branch, just view the "2018.02"
tiddler and choose the "New Here" command from that tiddler's menu.  This 
will create a new tiddler
that is automatically tagged with "2018.02" and will be listed in that 
branch of the tree.

You can also just create a new tiddler using the "+" command from the 
sidebar and then add the desired tag
by hand to place it wherever you want in the tree.

Let me know how it goes...  good luck!

-e

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-21 Thread Ste
I shall investigate!

On Friday, 21 August 2020 at 00:40:27 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Ste,
>
> Using a new sharepoint Wikipage library, I load a wiki with the .aspx 
> extension, I then enforced checkout on the wikifile (Whole of library 
> setting) and only the one person who has it checked out can save. This 
> method permits serial editing, one editor after another.
>
> I chose a Wikipage library because office 365 favours documents in such 
> libraries and loads them faster (anecdotal evidence) as they need to load 
> to interact like any webpage.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, 13 August 2020 10:19:35 UTC+10, Ste wrote:
>>
>> I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm 
>> just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and 
>> then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a 
>> better way. 
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Can this be toggled just like the feature in Notion?

2020-08-21 Thread jin
I believe its called sliders here in tw5. I wanted to toggle the 2018 link
as shown above in my tiddler so I can expand the other tiddlers inside 2018
or not

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 3:55 PM Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 12:24:18 AM UTC-7, justinehe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Can *WHAT* be toggled?  Please describe, using words, what you want to
> achieve.
> Keep in mind that not everyone is familiar with "Notion" or its features.
>
> -e
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[tw5] Re: Can this be toggled just like the feature in Notion?

2020-08-21 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 12:24:18 AM UTC-7, justinehe...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Can *WHAT* be toggled?  Please describe, using words, what you want to 
achieve.
Keep in mind that not everyone is familiar with "Notion" or its features.

-e

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[tw5] Can this be toggled just like the feature in Notion?

2020-08-21 Thread justinehe...@gmail.com
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[tw5] Re: unable to use edit mode text field TWSingleFile, local copy

2020-08-21 Thread A Gloom
And thanks Mark & Mat for your responses-- keep up the good work : )
(while watching comrades fall out due to the current situation, it reminds 
me of Mohammad's culture's practices-- make a big deal out of the positive 
regardless of importance-- otherwise you quickly realize how empty and 
meaingless Life is)

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 1:47:42 AM UTC-4 A Gloom wrote:

> @NU
>
> TYVM, the links I was trying to use for .37 were failing (Firefox was 
> blocking the install) but that link work-- now I can continue using 
> NoScript : )  I tried .39RC3 and it hadn't addressed the issue yet.
>
> @Birthe
>
> Yeah, NoScript can be buggy, I was lucky and didn't have to deal with the 
> worst of its issues.  Since websites use so much scripting and cross domain 
> content, it can play Hell with websites but it works for me : )
>
> As for work, I had to make a huge diagram for the latest wiki-- to 
> illustrate the button controlled transclusions and animations between the 
> story river story shell tiddler and customized side bar navigation 
> tiddler-- no closing old tiddlers / opening new ones-- all content change 
> is done inside the shell tiddlers by transclusion.
> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 10:01:38 AM UTC-4 NU wrote:
>
>> Noscript is aware of the bug, but the latest Noscript RC (.39) does not 
>> fix the issue with local Tiddlywikis.
>>
>> You can roll back to 11.0.37 by disabling automatic updates and getting 
>> the old release from the Noscript site: 
>> https://secure.informaction.com/download/releases/noscript-11.0.37.xpi
>>
>> Hopefully this issue will be resolved in the future.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 4:44:44 AM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gloom,
>>>
>>> Quite a detective work you have done.
>>> I do not know anything about it, but I searched and found a lot of 
>>> complaining. Along the lines of blocking most websites and unusable, not 
>>> remembering settings from session to session and stuff like that. 
>>>
>>> Admiring your work,
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>

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