Re: [tw5] Empty Story tip

2021-03-22 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Lovely!

Thank for sharing!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:00 AM dieg...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Just a little tip I (re)discovered recently, and have been putting to good
> use.
>
> I have two tiddlers that I dont want to ignore: my "Dashboard" from the
> Projectify plugin, and "My Essays" which lists and links to essays Im
> currently writing.
>
> Ive placed these in the:
>
> $:/config/EmptyStoryMessage
>
> tiddler, allowing them to always show when my river is empty.
>
> This has been much more useful than I would have thought! This works
> particularly well with Projectify's Dashboard!
>
> This is only explained briefly in the bottom of:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#HistoryMechanism
>
> in the "Empty story" section.
>
> Just wanted to remind everyone this exists and suggest a possible use.
>
> Best,
> Diego
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[tw5] Re: Gantt Charts & Kanban Board in TW?

2021-03-22 Thread ArchiMark
Thanks for the suggestion, Ste!

Looks pretty goodlike how you can scroll the timeline to see more time 
periods.

Best,

Mark

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:40:27 AM UTC-7 Ste wrote:

> http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
> also does a more interactive Gantt style chart.
>
> On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 13:30:35 UTC PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Found it: 
>> https://gt6796c.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5:%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%20%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%2Fgant
>>
>> BUT be warned! 
>>
>> If you want to have all those functions together in 1 wiki, it will be a 
>> challenge!!! .. NON of those projects are designed to work together.
>>
>> Especially mermaid will be tricky. The GANTT chart isn't interactive. 
>>
>> It contains some really cool stuff, but it adds several external 
>> libraries to the wiki that may be 4 years old. And it hasn't been changed 
>> since 4 years. ... 
>>
>> -mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Gantt Charts & Kanban Board in TW?

2021-03-22 Thread ArchiMark
Thank you, Mario for your input and link!

Understand your concerns about using those kanban and mermaid plugins 
together.

As for Projectify...I installed it last week!  Very nice!

I lead a team of project managers with a total portfolio of about 250 
capital projects.

Always on the lookout for good project and task management tools.

Keep up the great work!

Mark

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:40:27 AM UTC-7 Ste wrote:

> http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
> also does a more interactive Gantt style chart.
>
> On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 13:30:35 UTC PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Found it: 
>> https://gt6796c.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5:%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%20%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%2Fgant
>>
>> BUT be warned! 
>>
>> If you want to have all those functions together in 1 wiki, it will be a 
>> challenge!!! .. NON of those projects are designed to work together.
>>
>> Especially mermaid will be tricky. The GANTT chart isn't interactive. 
>>
>> It contains some really cool stuff, but it adds several external 
>> libraries to the wiki that may be 4 years old. And it hasn't been changed 
>> since 4 years. ... 
>>
>> -mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: What about data integrity? (And hi, I'm new!)

2021-03-22 Thread David Archer
Thank you! Glad to be here. 

"Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean you're wrong." comes to mind 
when talking about losing data. ;) I totally agree - good tip.

On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 20:13:50 UTC-7 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> G'day David, and welcome to TiddlerHood!
>
> Although you may never need them, there's is nothing wrong with having 
> just enough paranoia to create backups once in a while (at any moment you 
> think: "man, it would really suck if what I'm about to do would screw up X 
> hours worth of effort I've just put in).
>
> I have my regular moments of:  "hmmm, just when everything seems 
> foolproof, I am about to step up as the latest posterboy for fools are us." 
>
> Cheers !
>
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-3 David Archer wrote:
>
>> That's terrific, thanks, both of you. I'll be less afraid of breaking 
>> things now.
>>
>> On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 04:02:40 UTC-7 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> David Archer wrote:
>>>
 Is my essential data (the tiddlers, their content and their links) 
 still safe? I.e., is it transferrable to another TW file?

>>>
>>> Data content and links are still safe and transferrable, yes. Plugins or 
>>> other *code *that is not part of the core, especially things that are 
>>> not developed by the core team, might depend on other code so it can be 
>>> that they don't function properly. But that is not your *data*. 
>>> Further, because this is just a html file, your data is actually possible 
>>> to read in plain text. It is surrounded by html, but it's there and it's 
>>> extractable. It is probably one of the safest solutions around in this 
>>> regard.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Deletion of tiddlers based on search

2021-03-22 Thread Dupui Uis
Thank you Eric! You're amazing, love your creation! This will definitely 
help refine the search for tiddlers to delete. 

Many thanks,
Dup
On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 9:14:04 PM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 3:04:04 PM UTC-7 dupui...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> searching for a way to delete tiddlers based on search/mentions in any 
>> tiddler.
>>
>
> My "PowerSearch" filter generator might be what you need:
>
>
> http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html#TiddlyTools%2FFilterGenerators%2FPowerSearch
>
> http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html#TiddlyTools%2FMacros%2Fedit-list
>
> To install into your own document:
>
> 1) go to http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html
> 2) drag-and-drop the "PowerSearch" and "edit-list" tiddlers into your 
> TiddlyWiki (both are needed)
>
> That's it.  As soon as they are present in your TiddlyWiki, you can use 
> PowerSeach to enter a variety of criteria to locate a set of matching 
> tiddlers.  You can then use the PowerSearch "delete" button (trash can) to 
> remove all matching tiddlers from your document.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>
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[tw5] Re: What about data integrity? (And hi, I'm new!)

2021-03-22 Thread Charlie Veniot
G'day David, and welcome to TiddlerHood!

Although you may never need them, there's is nothing wrong with having just 
enough paranoia to create backups once in a while (at any moment you think: 
"man, it would really suck if what I'm about to do would screw up X hours 
worth of effort I've just put in).

I have my regular moments of:  "hmmm, just when everything seems foolproof, 
I am about to step up as the latest posterboy for fools are us." 

Cheers !

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-3 David Archer wrote:

> That's terrific, thanks, both of you. I'll be less afraid of breaking 
> things now.
>
> On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 04:02:40 UTC-7 Mat wrote:
>
>> David Archer wrote:
>>
>>> Is my essential data (the tiddlers, their content and their links) still 
>>> safe? I.e., is it transferrable to another TW file?
>>>
>>
>> Data content and links are still safe and transferrable, yes. Plugins or 
>> other *code *that is not part of the core, especially things that are 
>> not developed by the core team, might depend on other code so it can be 
>> that they don't function properly. But that is not your *data*. Further, 
>> because this is just a html file, your data is actually possible to read in 
>> plain text. It is surrounded by html, but it's there and it's extractable. 
>> It is probably one of the safest solutions around in this regard.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] [problem] Cannot save or delete tiddlers from the edit menu

2021-03-22 Thread TW Tones
Folks,

Perhaps someone has seen a similar problem and may provide a suggestion 
where to start to trouble shoot this if possible?

I have a large 6Mb wiki with lots of tiddlywiki notes and it has being 
upgraded to 5.1.23. I access it for saving via Timimi in either Chrome or 
firefox however once I have a new tiddler I am stuck with it in edit mode, 
none of the edit view buttons seem to work (Done/Close or delete) . I can 
save the whole wiki. On reload the drafts are accumulating at the bottom of 
the screen and in the recent tab. I now have some draft of drafts.

Any troubleshooting tips would be appreciated

Thanks
Tones

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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
That would work well enough, and be semi-intuitive in a TiddlyWiki sort of 
way.

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 2:09:28 PM UTC-7 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> Good idea. Do you think it would be enough to exclude "$:/" system tags?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
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> On 22 Mar 2021, at 20:59, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> It would be handy for link management purposes if system tags (or some 
> other tag with a designated prefix) could be ignored in processing.
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:25:48 AM UTC-7 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’ve created an issue:
>>
>> https://github.com/TiddlyWikiLinks/TiddlyWikiLinks/issues/7
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 17:24, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Come to think of it, it's possible that SVG favicons break things at 
>> present because they're text rather than binary. I'll have a look at fixing 
>> it,
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 5:21:42 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to use an SVG rather than an image. Changing the type to 
>>> image/svg+xml didn't help. I'm guessing there is some tweak we have to make 
>>> to the SVG ?
>>>
>>>


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[tw5] How to prevent TW to strip my onclick

2021-03-22 Thread Florian Cauvin
I use tiddlywiki to render a set of static html pages!
In a tiddler, I'm adding some html  tags with some very simple 
"onclick=..." in order to provide some small basic interactivity to this 
static site. But TW rendering strips all the onclick stuff from the 
rendered html. How could I force TW not to remove my "onclick" ?

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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mark

Good idea. Do you think it would be enough to exclude "$:/" system tags?

Best wishes

Jeremy
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> On 22 Mar 2021, at 20:59, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> It would be handy for link management purposes if system tags (or some other 
> tag with a designated prefix) could be ignored in processing.
> 
>> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:25:48 AM UTC-7 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I’ve created an issue:
>> 
>> https://github.com/TiddlyWikiLinks/TiddlyWikiLinks/issues/7
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
 On 22 Mar 2021, at 17:24, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> Come to think of it, it's possible that SVG favicons break things at 
>>> present because they're text rather than binary. I'll have a look at fixing 
>>> it,
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Jeremy
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 5:21:42 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
> I would like to use an SVG rather than an image. Changing the type to 
> image/svg+xml didn't help. I'm guessing there is some tweak we have to 
> make to the SVG ?
> 
>> 
>> 
 
 
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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
It would be handy for link management purposes if system tags (or some 
other tag with a designated prefix) could be ignored in processing.

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:25:48 AM UTC-7 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve created an issue:
>
> https://github.com/TiddlyWikiLinks/TiddlyWikiLinks/issues/7
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 22 Mar 2021, at 17:24, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Come to think of it, it's possible that SVG favicons break things at 
> present because they're text rather than binary. I'll have a look at fixing 
> it,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 5:21:42 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
>
>> I would like to use an SVG rather than an image. Changing the type to 
>> image/svg+xml didn't help. I'm guessing there is some tweak we have to make 
>> to the SVG ?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Empty Story tip

2021-03-22 Thread dieg...@gmail.com
Hello all,

Just a little tip I (re)discovered recently, and have been putting to good 
use. 

I have two tiddlers that I dont want to ignore: my "Dashboard" from the 
Projectify plugin, and "My Essays" which lists and links to essays Im 
currently writing. 

Ive placed these in the: 

$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage

tiddler, allowing them to always show when my river is empty. 

This has been much more useful than I would have thought! This works 
particularly well with Projectify's Dashboard! 

This is only explained briefly in the bottom of: 

https://tiddlywiki.com/#HistoryMechanism 

in the "Empty story" section. 

Just wanted to remind everyone this exists and suggest a possible use. 

Best,
Diego

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[tw5] Re: Wikitext img failing under node.js (5.1.23)

2021-03-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Well, that is the problem:



So something in the system thinks that it is a base 64 image, even though 
it is a relative link image (as shown in the screenshots).

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark: I just tried to reproduce this and did not encounter the same 
> problem. Where the broken/non-existent image displays, can you inspect it 
> to see what the src attribute is set to?
>
> [image: Screenshot 2021-03-22 190753.png]
>
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 2:31:56 PM UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> It's being served up by standard node.js. 
>>
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:14:21 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect this is a standalone TW file and not node.js?
>>>
>>> I believe this only works on node.js, due to path resolution relative to 
>>> the server root, as well as needing a static file server that serves the 
>>> images at that URI (which TW on node.js does for the files folder)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 8:06:29 PM UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:
>>>
 I have an odd problem that's showing up when attempting to use img[] 
 links and canonical uri's with locally hosted (static) image files. 

 I have a tiddler with an image:

 [image: FireShot Capture 023 - Test 2 — a non-linear personal web 
 notebook - 127.0.0.1.png]
 with canonical external file:

 [image: exteriminate-canon.png]

 But when used as wikitext image, it fails:

 [image: exteriminate-canon-link-preview.png]

 I haven't tried it yet to see if it works as a local file.



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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread Jeremy Ruston
I’ve created an issue:

https://github.com/TiddlyWikiLinks/TiddlyWikiLinks/issues/7 


Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 22 Mar 2021, at 17:24, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Come to think of it, it's possible that SVG favicons break things at present 
> because they're text rather than binary. I'll have a look at fixing it,
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 5:21:42 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:
> I would like to use an SVG rather than an image. Changing the type to 
> image/svg+xml didn't help. I'm guessing there is some tweak we have to make 
> to the SVG ?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Mark,

Come to think of it, it's possible that SVG favicons break things at 
present because they're text rather than binary. I'll have a look at fixing 
it,

Best wishes

Jeremy
On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 5:21:42 PM UTC Mark S. wrote:

> I would like to use an SVG rather than an image. Changing the type to 
> image/svg+xml didn't help. I'm guessing there is some tweak we have to make 
> to the SVG ?
>
>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I would like to use an SVG rather than an image. Changing the type to 
image/svg+xml didn't help. I'm guessing there is some tweak we have to make 
to the SVG ?


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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Dave, looks good now:



Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 22 Mar 2021, at 16:34, David Gifford  wrote:
> 
> Just added an ico and it shows the type, so hopefully it will be right when 
> your system refreshes.
> 
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:32:33 AM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Dave
> 
> Apologies, you do indeed have a $:favicon.ico tiddler. It’s actually missing 
> a type field, so it will be interpreted as wikitext. I haven’t tested things 
> with an SVG favicon, but it may well work if the icon is fixed.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 16:29, David Gifford > > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Thanks, Jeremy! Hmmm... I did add the favicon tiddler, but maybe it was an 
>> svg rather than an ico file. Will fix this in a moment.
>> 
>> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:03:51 AM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Dave
>> 
>> Great, I’ve added your site:
>> 
>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/contributors/giffmex/ 
>> 
>> 
>> You should add a small square avatar image called $:/favicon.ico to make 
>> things look right (see below).
>> 
>> I made the initial guideline 5-10 words because I think shorter descriptions 
>> work best, but I agree that we may want to increase the guideline.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy.
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 15:57, David Gifford > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> 1. Yay! I was wondering when the TW community would get round to this. It 
>>> really needed your initiative, Jeremy. Thanks! It will be nice when this 
>>> can take the place of the Toolmap.
>>> 
>>> 2. Correction: I add the links in TiddlyWiki toolmap to as many categories 
>>> as I think are appropriate, and ofte tell the creators to let me know if 
>>> they belong in additional categories. I recommend that people do a search 
>>> in the Toolmap to see how many categories a plugin has already. That might 
>>> give them more ideas for tags in the TWCLA.
>>> 
>>> 3. The 5-10 word limit you mentioned for descriptions is restrictive. Most 
>>> of the descriptions in the toolmap have the advantage that I have taken 
>>> them right from the plugin demo sites themselves. I try to keep them to a 
>>> line or two. People might consider the descriptions there when adding their 
>>> links.
>>> 
>>> 4. Yes, I will add a bunch of links myself! But this week I have a lot on 
>>> my plate.
>>> 
>>> 5. Could you add mine? Username: giffmex site URL: 
>>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/twcla.html 
>>> . I added one link for now to make 
>>> sure I did it right.
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:54:56 PM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com 
>>>  wrote:
 It seems like a  first step would be to convert the community resources 
 into links. A second step might be to convert TiddlyWiki Toolmap into 
 links.
>>> 
>>> Yes to both.
>>> 
>>> One of the reasons I didn't add tiddlywiki.com  as 
>>> a source is because the tiddlers there have a bunch of other tags that 
>>> aren't meaningful in this context. So it would be great if anyone would 
>>> like to clean them up and put them in a wiki somewhere.
>>> 
>>> In the case of the Toolmap, it might well be a community effort to get 
>>> everything moved across in a useful way. As I understand it, links in the 
>>> toolmap are filed under a single set of hierarchical categories, while the 
>>> links aggregator allows for multiple topics to be assigned to each link.
>>> 
 What happens if two people share the same link?
>>> 
>>> That's a good thing! This site is modelled on an ancient "Web 2.0" site 
>>> called "del.icio.us " (see 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicious_(website) 
>>>  ), where the idea is 
>>> that multiple people bookmarking a particular link is taken as a sign of 
>>> the popularity of that link. So, bookmarking a site is a vote of confidence.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Jeremy
>>> 
>>> 
 
 On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:17:16 PM UTC-7 joshua@ <>gmail.com 
  wrote:
 This is a FANTASTIC idea. Bravo. Will be digesting alongside the 
 Tiddlywiki-on-Fission work being done.
 
 Are we starting to approach a 'standard' "Link Tiddler" format? That's 
 also cool to see, as I intend to have a few different wikis to curate 
 links for various topics. Setting one up for Tiddlywiki-focused bookmarks 
 only will be easy. :)
 
 Best,
 Joshua Fontany
 
 On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:09:43 PM UTC-7 Mat wrote:
 Well, it should come as no surprise what I think of this:
 
 HOOORAYYY
 
 Thank you Jeremy! I'll sign up as soon as I figure out a good wiki for it.
 Two notes:
 
 1) The links at TiddlyWikiLinks currently don't seem to work. E.g clicking 
 on federatial.com  

Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread David Gifford
Just added an ico and it shows the type, so hopefully it will be right when 
your system refreshes.

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:32:33 AM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Dave
>
> Apologies, you do indeed have a $:favicon.ico tiddler. It’s actually 
> missing a type field, so it will be interpreted as wikitext. I haven’t 
> tested things with an SVG favicon, but it may well work if the icon is 
> fixed.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 22 Mar 2021, at 16:29, David Gifford  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jeremy! Hmmm... I did add the favicon tiddler, but maybe it was an 
> svg rather than an ico file. Will fix this in a moment.
>
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:03:51 AM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave
>>
>> Great, I’ve added your site:
>>
>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/contributors/giffmex/
>>
>> You should add a small square avatar image called $:/favicon.ico to make 
>> things look right (see below).
>>
>> I made the initial guideline 5-10 words because I think shorter 
>> descriptions work best, but I agree that we may want to increase the 
>> guideline.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 15:57, David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>> 1. Yay! I was wondering when the TW community would get round to this. It 
>> really needed your initiative, Jeremy. Thanks! It will be nice when this 
>> can take the place of the Toolmap.
>>
>> 2. Correction: I add the links in TiddlyWiki toolmap to as many 
>> categories as I think are appropriate, and ofte tell the creators to let me 
>> know if they belong in additional categories. I recommend that people do a 
>> search in the Toolmap to see how many categories a plugin has already. That 
>> might give them more ideas for tags in the TWCLA.
>>
>> 3. The 5-10 word limit you mentioned for descriptions is restrictive. 
>> Most of the descriptions in the toolmap have the advantage that I have 
>> taken them right from the plugin demo sites themselves. I try to keep them 
>> to a line or two. People might consider the descriptions there when adding 
>> their links.
>>
>> 4. Yes, I will add a bunch of links myself! But this week I have a lot on 
>> my plate.
>>
>> 5. *Could you add mine?* Username: giffmex site URL: 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/twcla.html. I added one link for now to make 
>> sure I did it right.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:54:56 PM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It seems like a  first step would be to convert the community resources 
>>> into links. A second step might be to convert TiddlyWiki Toolmap into links.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes to both.
>>>
>>> One of the reasons I didn't add tiddlywiki.com as a source is because 
>>> the tiddlers there have a bunch of other tags that aren't meaningful in 
>>> this context. So it would be great if anyone would like to clean them up 
>>> and put them in a wiki somewhere.
>>>
>>> In the case of the Toolmap, it might well be a community effort to get 
>>> everything moved across in a useful way. As I understand it, links in the 
>>> toolmap are filed under a single set of hierarchical categories, while the 
>>> links aggregator allows for multiple topics to be assigned to each link.
>>>
>>> What happens if two people share the same link?
>>>
>>>
>>> That's a good thing! This site is modelled on an ancient "Web 2.0" site 
>>> called "del.icio.us" (see 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicious_(website) ), where the idea is 
>>> that multiple people bookmarking a particular link is taken as a sign of 
>>> the popularity of that link. So, bookmarking a site is a vote of confidence.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:17:16 PM UTC-7 joshua@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This is a FANTASTIC idea. Bravo. Will be digesting alongside the 
 Tiddlywiki-on-Fission work being done.

 Are we starting to approach a 'standard' "Link Tiddler" format? That's 
 also cool to see, as I intend to have a few different wikis to curate 
 links 
 for various topics. Setting one up for Tiddlywiki-focused bookmarks only 
 will be easy. :)

 Best,
 Joshua Fontany

 On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:09:43 PM UTC-7 Mat wrote:

> Well, it should come as no surprise what I think of this:
>
> HOOORAYYY
>
> Thank you Jeremy! I'll sign up as soon as I figure out a good wiki for 
> it.
> Two notes:
>
> 1) The links at TiddlyWikiLinks currently don't seem to work. E.g 
> clicking on federatial.com doesn't lead to that site.
> 2) There's something about Motovun Jack... and I cracked it ;-)
>
> <:-)
>
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:00:23 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> One of the obstacles we face as a community is that we don’t have a 
>> good place for us to curate and share bookmarks to useful resources. 
>> Dave 
>> Gifford has shown what's possible with his ToolMap, an invaluable 
>> community 
>> 

Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Dave

Apologies, you do indeed have a $:favicon.ico tiddler. It’s actually missing a 
type field, so it will be interpreted as wikitext. I haven’t tested things with 
an SVG favicon, but it may well work if the icon is fixed.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 22 Mar 2021, at 16:29, David Gifford  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Jeremy! Hmmm... I did add the favicon tiddler, but maybe it was an 
> svg rather than an ico file. Will fix this in a moment.
> 
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:03:51 AM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> Hi Dave
> 
> Great, I’ve added your site:
> 
> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/contributors/giffmex/ 
> 
> 
> You should add a small square avatar image called $:/favicon.ico to make 
> things look right (see below).
> 
> I made the initial guideline 5-10 words because I think shorter descriptions 
> work best, but I agree that we may want to increase the guideline.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 15:57, David Gifford > > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> 1. Yay! I was wondering when the TW community would get round to this. It 
>> really needed your initiative, Jeremy. Thanks! It will be nice when this can 
>> take the place of the Toolmap.
>> 
>> 2. Correction: I add the links in TiddlyWiki toolmap to as many categories 
>> as I think are appropriate, and ofte tell the creators to let me know if 
>> they belong in additional categories. I recommend that people do a search in 
>> the Toolmap to see how many categories a plugin has already. That might give 
>> them more ideas for tags in the TWCLA.
>> 
>> 3. The 5-10 word limit you mentioned for descriptions is restrictive. Most 
>> of the descriptions in the toolmap have the advantage that I have taken them 
>> right from the plugin demo sites themselves. I try to keep them to a line or 
>> two. People might consider the descriptions there when adding their links.
>> 
>> 4. Yes, I will add a bunch of links myself! But this week I have a lot on my 
>> plate.
>> 
>> 5. Could you add mine? Username: giffmex site URL: 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/twcla.html . 
>> I added one link for now to make sure I did it right.
>> 
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:54:56 PM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>>> It seems like a  first step would be to convert the community resources 
>>> into links. A second step might be to convert TiddlyWiki Toolmap into links.
>> 
>> Yes to both.
>> 
>> One of the reasons I didn't add tiddlywiki.com  as a 
>> source is because the tiddlers there have a bunch of other tags that aren't 
>> meaningful in this context. So it would be great if anyone would like to 
>> clean them up and put them in a wiki somewhere.
>> 
>> In the case of the Toolmap, it might well be a community effort to get 
>> everything moved across in a useful way. As I understand it, links in the 
>> toolmap are filed under a single set of hierarchical categories, while the 
>> links aggregator allows for multiple topics to be assigned to each link.
>> 
>>> What happens if two people share the same link?
>> 
>> That's a good thing! This site is modelled on an ancient "Web 2.0" site 
>> called "del.icio.us " (see 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicious_(website) 
>>  ), where the idea is 
>> that multiple people bookmarking a particular link is taken as a sign of the 
>> popularity of that link. So, bookmarking a site is a vote of confidence.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:17:16 PM UTC-7 joshua@ <>gmail.com 
>>>  wrote:
>>> This is a FANTASTIC idea. Bravo. Will be digesting alongside the 
>>> Tiddlywiki-on-Fission work being done.
>>> 
>>> Are we starting to approach a 'standard' "Link Tiddler" format? That's also 
>>> cool to see, as I intend to have a few different wikis to curate links for 
>>> various topics. Setting one up for Tiddlywiki-focused bookmarks only will 
>>> be easy. :)
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Joshua Fontany
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:09:43 PM UTC-7 Mat wrote:
>>> Well, it should come as no surprise what I think of this:
>>> 
>>> HOOORAYYY
>>> 
>>> Thank you Jeremy! I'll sign up as soon as I figure out a good wiki for it.
>>> Two notes:
>>> 
>>> 1) The links at TiddlyWikiLinks currently don't seem to work. E.g clicking 
>>> on federatial.com  doesn't lead to that site.
>>> 2) There's something about Motovun Jack... and I cracked it ;-)
>>> 
>>> <:-)
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:00:23 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>> One of the obstacles we face as a community is that we don’t have a good 
>>> place for us to curate and share bookmarks to useful resources. Dave 
>>> Gifford has shown what's possible with his ToolMap, an invaluable community 
>>> resource. But it’s a huge 

Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread David Gifford
Thanks, Jeremy! Hmmm... I did add the favicon tiddler, but maybe it was an 
svg rather than an ico file. Will fix this in a moment.

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:03:51 AM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Dave
>
> Great, I’ve added your site:
>
> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/contributors/giffmex/
>
> You should add a small square avatar image called $:/favicon.ico to make 
> things look right (see below).
>
> I made the initial guideline 5-10 words because I think shorter 
> descriptions work best, but I agree that we may want to increase the 
> guideline.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>  
>
>
>
> On 22 Mar 2021, at 15:57, David Gifford  wrote:
>
> 1. Yay! I was wondering when the TW community would get round to this. It 
> really needed your initiative, Jeremy. Thanks! It will be nice when this 
> can take the place of the Toolmap.
>
> 2. Correction: I add the links in TiddlyWiki toolmap to as many categories 
> as I think are appropriate, and ofte tell the creators to let me know if 
> they belong in additional categories. I recommend that people do a search 
> in the Toolmap to see how many categories a plugin has already. That might 
> give them more ideas for tags in the TWCLA.
>
> 3. The 5-10 word limit you mentioned for descriptions is restrictive. Most 
> of the descriptions in the toolmap have the advantage that I have taken 
> them right from the plugin demo sites themselves. I try to keep them to a 
> line or two. People might consider the descriptions there when adding their 
> links.
>
> 4. Yes, I will add a bunch of links myself! But this week I have a lot on 
> my plate.
>
> 5. *Could you add mine?* Username: giffmex site URL: 
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/twcla.html. I added one link for now to make 
> sure I did it right.
>
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:54:56 PM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It seems like a  first step would be to convert the community resources 
>> into links. A second step might be to convert TiddlyWiki Toolmap into links.
>>
>>
>> Yes to both.
>>
>> One of the reasons I didn't add tiddlywiki.com as a source is because 
>> the tiddlers there have a bunch of other tags that aren't meaningful in 
>> this context. So it would be great if anyone would like to clean them up 
>> and put them in a wiki somewhere.
>>
>> In the case of the Toolmap, it might well be a community effort to get 
>> everything moved across in a useful way. As I understand it, links in the 
>> toolmap are filed under a single set of hierarchical categories, while the 
>> links aggregator allows for multiple topics to be assigned to each link.
>>
>> What happens if two people share the same link?
>>
>>
>> That's a good thing! This site is modelled on an ancient "Web 2.0" site 
>> called "del.icio.us" (see 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicious_(website) ), where the idea is 
>> that multiple people bookmarking a particular link is taken as a sign of 
>> the popularity of that link. So, bookmarking a site is a vote of confidence.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:17:16 PM UTC-7 joshua@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a FANTASTIC idea. Bravo. Will be digesting alongside the 
>>> Tiddlywiki-on-Fission work being done.
>>>
>>> Are we starting to approach a 'standard' "Link Tiddler" format? That's 
>>> also cool to see, as I intend to have a few different wikis to curate links 
>>> for various topics. Setting one up for Tiddlywiki-focused bookmarks only 
>>> will be easy. :)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joshua Fontany
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:09:43 PM UTC-7 Mat wrote:
>>>
 Well, it should come as no surprise what I think of this:

 HOOORAYYY

 Thank you Jeremy! I'll sign up as soon as I figure out a good wiki for 
 it.
 Two notes:

 1) The links at TiddlyWikiLinks currently don't seem to work. E.g 
 clicking on federatial.com doesn't lead to that site.
 2) There's something about Motovun Jack... and I cracked it ;-)

 <:-)

 On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:00:23 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> One of the obstacles we face as a community is that we don’t have a 
> good place for us to curate and share bookmarks to useful resources. Dave 
> Gifford has shown what's possible with his ToolMap, an invaluable 
> community 
> resource. But it’s a huge challenge for any one person to keep an 
> undertaking like that up to date, let alone complete.
>
> So, I’m pleased to announce TiddlyWikiLinks, a community links 
> aggregator that allows us to collectively curate bookmarks:
>
> https://links.tiddlywiki.com
>
> The way it works is that multiple contributing editors each maintain 
> their own TiddlyWiki containing their bookmarks. These wikis are 
> registered 
> with the system on GitHub, and then at intervals a script retrieves all 
> the 
> links and aggregates them together into a new wiki.
>
> 

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread David Gifford
1. Yay! I was wondering when the TW community would get round to this. It 
really needed your initiative, Jeremy. Thanks! It will be nice when this 
can take the place of the Toolmap.

2. Correction: I add the links in TiddlyWiki toolmap to as many categories 
as I think are appropriate, and ofte tell the creators to let me know if 
they belong in additional categories. I recommend that people do a search 
in the Toolmap to see how many categories a plugin has already. That might 
give them more ideas for tags in the TWCLA.

3. The 5-10 word limit you mentioned for descriptions is restrictive. Most 
of the descriptions in the toolmap have the advantage that I have taken 
them right from the plugin demo sites themselves. I try to keep them to a 
line or two. People might consider the descriptions there when adding their 
links.

4. Yes, I will add a bunch of links myself! But this week I have a lot on 
my plate.

5. *Could you add mine?* Username: giffmex site URL: 
https://giffmex.org/gifts/twcla.html. I added one link for now to make sure 
I did it right.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:54:56 PM UTC-6 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> It seems like a  first step would be to convert the community resources 
> into links. A second step might be to convert TiddlyWiki Toolmap into links.
>
>
> Yes to both.
>
> One of the reasons I didn't add tiddlywiki.com as a source is because the 
> tiddlers there have a bunch of other tags that aren't meaningful in this 
> context. So it would be great if anyone would like to clean them up and put 
> them in a wiki somewhere.
>
> In the case of the Toolmap, it might well be a community effort to get 
> everything moved across in a useful way. As I understand it, links in the 
> toolmap are filed under a single set of hierarchical categories, while the 
> links aggregator allows for multiple topics to be assigned to each link.
>
> What happens if two people share the same link?
>
>
> That's a good thing! This site is modelled on an ancient "Web 2.0" site 
> called "del.icio.us" (see 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicious_(website) ), where the idea is 
> that multiple people bookmarking a particular link is taken as a sign of 
> the popularity of that link. So, bookmarking a site is a vote of confidence.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:17:16 PM UTC-7 joshua@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This is a FANTASTIC idea. Bravo. Will be digesting alongside the 
>> Tiddlywiki-on-Fission work being done.
>>
>> Are we starting to approach a 'standard' "Link Tiddler" format? That's 
>> also cool to see, as I intend to have a few different wikis to curate links 
>> for various topics. Setting one up for Tiddlywiki-focused bookmarks only 
>> will be easy. :)
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 12:09:43 PM UTC-7 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it should come as no surprise what I think of this:
>>>
>>> HOOORAYYY
>>>
>>> Thank you Jeremy! I'll sign up as soon as I figure out a good wiki for 
>>> it.
>>> Two notes:
>>>
>>> 1) The links at TiddlyWikiLinks currently don't seem to work. E.g 
>>> clicking on federatial.com doesn't lead to that site.
>>> 2) There's something about Motovun Jack... and I cracked it ;-)
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:00:23 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
 One of the obstacles we face as a community is that we don’t have a 
 good place for us to curate and share bookmarks to useful resources. Dave 
 Gifford has shown what's possible with his ToolMap, an invaluable 
 community 
 resource. But it’s a huge challenge for any one person to keep an 
 undertaking like that up to date, let alone complete.

 So, I’m pleased to announce TiddlyWikiLinks, a community links 
 aggregator that allows us to collectively curate bookmarks:

 https://links.tiddlywiki.com

 The way it works is that multiple contributing editors each maintain 
 their own TiddlyWiki containing their bookmarks. These wikis are 
 registered 
 with the system on GitHub, and then at intervals a script retrieves all 
 the 
 links and aggregates them together into a new wiki.

 The above links are to a static rendering to help Google find things, 
 but the information is also available in TiddlyWiki format:

 https://links.tiddlywiki.com/wiki.html

 It’s easy to set up to be a contributing editor.  The main requirement 
 is that bookmarks be kept as tiddlers tagged "$:/tags/Link" with an “url” 
 field containing the URL. So, for example, I’m “jermolene”, and all my 
 links are to be found at:

 https://links.tiddlywiki.com/contributors/jermolene/

 My bookmarking wiki is here:

 https://jermolene-links.tiddlyhost.com

 If enough people volunteer to be contributing editors, we can spread 
 the workload and make something much more valuable than any of us could do 
 individually. I’d be 

[tw5] Re: What about data integrity? (And hi, I'm new!)

2021-03-22 Thread David Archer
That's terrific, thanks, both of you. I'll be less afraid of breaking 
things now.

On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 04:02:40 UTC-7 Mat wrote:

> David Archer wrote:
>
>> Is my essential data (the tiddlers, their content and their links) still 
>> safe? I.e., is it transferrable to another TW file?
>>
>
> Data content and links are still safe and transferrable, yes. Plugins or 
> other *code *that is not part of the core, especially things that are not 
> developed by the core team, might depend on other code so it can be that 
> they don't function properly. But that is not your *data*. Further, 
> because this is just a html file, your data is actually possible to read in 
> plain text. It is surrounded by html, but it's there and it's extractable. 
> It is probably one of the safest solutions around in this regard.
>
> <:-)
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Gantt Charts & Kanban Board in TW?

2021-03-22 Thread Ste
http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/
also does a more interactive Gantt style chart.

On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 13:30:35 UTC PMario wrote:

> Hi,
> Found it: 
> https://gt6796c.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5:%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%20%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%2Fgant
>
> BUT be warned! 
>
> If you want to have all those functions together in 1 wiki, it will be a 
> challenge!!! .. NON of those projects are designed to work together.
>
> Especially mermaid will be tricky. The GANTT chart isn't interactive. 
>
> It contains some really cool stuff, but it adds several external libraries 
> to the wiki that may be 4 years old. And it hasn't been changed since 4 
> years. ... 
>
> -mario
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Mark.

The fact that URLs come in all shapes and sizes does make things awkward, which 
is probably why few mainstream apps display links in full these days (eg 
Twitter, Chrome).

The scraper does some normalization of the link URLs, I'll look at possibly 
extending it to record the domain name part of the link separately so that we 
can use that in certain places in the UI instead of the full link. Or perhaps 
eliding most of the link with ellipsis, as Twitter does. And as a fallback, 
I'll make sure the CSS prefers breaking the URLs to overflowing them.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 22 Mar 2021, at 13:29, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Longer URL's overflow:
> 
> 
>  6-27-36 AM.png>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mario

> Would it be possible to create a file, that doesn't contain the TW core. ... 
> My links file would be about 300k instead of 2.5MByte. 

Yes, you can use a modified version of the main HTML template that omits all 
the JS to create an "inert" TiddlyWiki which will still be read perfectly 
happily by the scraper.

Having said that, probably the best performance improvement we can make would 
be for the scraper to record the last modified date of each scan, and thus be 
able to pass an If-Modified-Since header to subsequent requests to avoid 
re-downloading data that hasn't changed.

> Probably even less, if I would use a different template, to create the output 
> file.
> OR
> Would it be possible to create a community-links.json file that you can 
> fetch. ... It would be several kByte. 

We could certainly update the scraper to optionally accept JSON.

But, it's quite nice that the originating sites are human readable because it 
gives users of links.tiddlywiki.com the opportunity to get to know the 
contributors better.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> -mario
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:37:15 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>> So no misunderstanding:
>>> 
>>> My wiki with "link tiddlers" can really be any wiki that contains other 
>>> non-link stuff because only the tiddlers tagged $:/tags/Link are fetched by 
>>> the script, right?
>> 
>> That's correct, but another consideration is that the wiki will be fetched 
>> very frequently, so it's polite to make it as small as possible.
>> 
>> I will add stats for the size of the wikis that are fetched so we could 
>> identify wikis that are carrying an unreasonable overhead, but for the 
>> moment we probably don't need to worry about it too much.
>> 
>> The most important consideration is probably making your workflow as smooth 
>> as possible so that you've got every incentive to keep posting the links...
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> <:-)
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 9:39:04 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
 Just to add that the aggregator is currently set to run every 17 minutes, 
 so once you're registered like Mohammad you can keep adding links and 
 watch them appear on the site very shortly afterwards without any 
 intervention from me.
 
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> On 21 Mar 2021, at 20:36, Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
> 
> This is the content from the TiddlyWiki toolmap from about 6 months ago, 
> where each entry is in a separate tiddler:
 
> 
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/temp/streams-tiddlytoolmap%20-2.html#TiddlyWiki%20toolmap
> 
> We might be able to automate extracting and putting the links in the 
> correct field, renaming and tagging the tiddlers.
> Each entry should ideally still be manually reviewed for accuracy and 
> completeness though.
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:00:23 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>> One of the obstacles we face as a community is that we don’t have a 
>>> good place for us to curate and share bookmarks to useful resources. 
>>> Dave Gifford has shown what's possible with his ToolMap, an invaluable 
>>> community resource. But it’s a huge challenge for any one person to 
>>> keep an undertaking like that up to date, let alone complete.
>>> 
>>> So, I’m pleased to announce TiddlyWikiLinks, a community links 
>>> aggregator that allows us to collectively curate bookmarks:
>>> 
>>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com
>>> 
>>> The way it works is that multiple contributing editors each maintain 
>>> their own TiddlyWiki containing their bookmarks. These wikis are 
>>> registered with the system on GitHub, and then at intervals a script 
>>> retrieves all the links and aggregates them together into a new wiki.
>>> 
>>> The above links are to a static rendering to help Google find things, 
>>> but the information is also available in TiddlyWiki format:
>>> 
>>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/wiki.html
>>> 
>>> It’s easy to set up to be a contributing editor.  The main requirement 
>>> is that bookmarks be kept as tiddlers tagged "$:/tags/Link" with an 
>>> “url” field containing the URL. So, for example, I’m “jermolene”, and 
>>> all my links are to be found at:
>>> 
>>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/contributors/jermolene/
>>> 
>>> My bookmarking wiki is here:
>>> 
>>> https://jermolene-links.tiddlyhost.com
>>> 
>>> If enough people volunteer to be contributing editors, we can spread 
>>> the workload and make something much more valuable than any of us could 
>>> do individually. I’d be happy if we had a handful of contributing link 
>>> editors making high quality bookmarks, but I think this system could be 
>>> scaled to at least a few hundred.
>>> 
>>> If you’re 

[tw5] Re: Wikitext img failing under node.js (5.1.23)

2021-03-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
It's being served up by standard node.js. 

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:14:21 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> I suspect this is a standalone TW file and not node.js?
>
> I believe this only works on node.js, due to path resolution relative to 
> the server root, as well as needing a static file server that serves the 
> images at that URI (which TW on node.js does for the files folder)
>
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 8:06:29 PM UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> I have an odd problem that's showing up when attempting to use img[] 
>> links and canonical uri's with locally hosted (static) image files. 
>>
>> I have a tiddler with an image:
>>
>> [image: FireShot Capture 023 - Test 2 — a non-linear personal web 
>> notebook - 127.0.0.1.png]
>> with canonical external file:
>>
>> [image: exteriminate-canon.png]
>>
>> But when used as wikitext image, it fails:
>>
>> [image: exteriminate-canon-link-preview.png]
>>
>> I haven't tried it yet to see if it works as a local file.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Gantt Charts & Kanban Board in TW?

2021-03-22 Thread PMario
Hi,
Found it: 
https://gt6796c.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5:%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%20%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fgt6796c%2Fmermaid-tw5%2Fgant

BUT be warned! 

If you want to have all those functions together in 1 wiki, it will be a 
challenge!!! .. NON of those projects are designed to work together.

Especially mermaid will be tricky. The GANTT chart isn't interactive. 

It contains some really cool stuff, but it adds several external libraries 
to the wiki that may be 4 years old. And it hasn't been changed since 4 
years. ... 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Longer URL's overflow:


[image: marxsal-s Links- links-tiddlywiki-com — TiddlyWiki community links 
3-22-2021 6-27-36 AM.png]

>
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[tw5] Re: Gantt Charts & Kanban Board in TW?

2021-03-22 Thread PMario
Hi Mark,
Welcome! 

Have a look at: https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#q=kanban  
There are 2 examples.

I know, that I've seen something Gantt like, but I don't know the link. 

If you need a ToDo manager: https://projectify.wiki/ may be an option.

-mario

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 11:35:42 PM UTC+1 sreb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> TW newbie, been getting my wet feet with TW the past 2 weeks
>
> *A.  Gantt Charts*
>
> Is there a plugin(?) that let's you make a simple Gantt (bar) Chart from 
> 'task tiddlers' ?
>
> Would be great if this was possible.
>
> *B.  Kanban Board*
>
> One feature I liked when I tried out Notion briefly is the ability to use 
> a Kanban Board where you can move around 'tiles' with text on them, around 
> underneath different columns.
>
> Is something like this possible in TW?
>
> As always, thanks for any and all input!
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: Opening the default TiddlyDesktop

2021-03-22 Thread Ian Simcock
Hi All.

I'm just bumping this because this is driving me crazy. I can find a number 
of references to there being a command line option to have TiddlyDeskTop 
open a TiddlyWiki, but I can't find any actually reference to what that 
command line is! :-)

Thanks,
Ian.


On Tuesday, 9 June 2020 at 21:44:13 UTC+9:30 Neve F wrote:

> Bumping this as having read the resulting conversation, it still doesn't 
> seem like there is a solution. (It's possible that the command line thing 
> could have something relevant to doing this but I'm not sure how myself.) 
> It would be very nice to remove that extra step of opening the list to open 
> the only wiki on it. It would also be cool if we could cause start menu 
> tiles or other shortcuts to directly launch a particular wiki via 
> TiddlyDesktop when there are multiple, again skipping the step of having to 
> open the list in order to select one. No idea how easy or difficult this 
> would be to make work, but reiterating the interest...
>
> On Thursday, 30 April 2020 17:27:18 UTC+10, Edgaras wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to always open the default TW note file when 
>> opening TiddlyDesktop, and do NOT open the wiki list window? That would 
>> simplify the process every time, as I only have one TW.
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread PMario
Jeremy, 

Would it be possible to create a file, that doesn't contain the TW core. 
... My links file would be about 300k instead of 2.5MByte. 
Probably even less, if I would use a different template, to create the 
output file.
OR
Would it be possible to create a community-links.json file that you can 
fetch. ... It would be several kByte. 

At the moment I want to automatically create the links file if I create a 
new index file of wikilabs page. 

-mario
On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:37:15 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> So no misunderstanding:
>
> My wiki with "link tiddlers" can really be any wiki that contains other 
> non-link stuff because only the tiddlers tagged $:/tags/Link are fetched by 
> the script, right?
>
>
> That's correct, but another consideration is that the wiki will be fetched 
> very frequently, so it's polite to make it as small as possible.
>
> I will add stats for the size of the wikis that are fetched so we could 
> identify wikis that are carrying an unreasonable overhead, but for the 
> moment we probably don't need to worry about it too much.
>
> The most important consideration is probably making your workflow as 
> smooth as possible so that you've got every incentive to keep posting the 
> links...
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> <:-)
>
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 9:39:04 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> Just to add that the aggregator is currently set to run every 17 minutes, 
>> so once you're registered like Mohammad you can keep adding links and watch 
>> them appear on the site very shortly afterwards without any intervention 
>> from me.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
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>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 21 Mar 2021, at 20:36, Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>
>> This is the content from the TiddlyWiki toolmap from about 6 months ago, 
>> where each entry is in a separate tiddler:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/temp/streams-tiddlytoolmap%20-2.html#TiddlyWiki%20toolmap
>>
>> We might be able to automate extracting and putting the links in the 
>> correct field, renaming and tagging the tiddlers.
>> Each entry should ideally still be manually reviewed for accuracy and 
>> completeness though.
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:00:23 PM UTC+1 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> One of the obstacles we face as a community is that we don’t have a good 
>>> place for us to curate and share bookmarks to useful resources. Dave 
>>> Gifford has shown what's possible with his ToolMap, an invaluable community 
>>> resource. But it’s a huge challenge for any one person to keep an 
>>> undertaking like that up to date, let alone complete.
>>>
>>> So, I’m pleased to announce TiddlyWikiLinks, a community links 
>>> aggregator that allows us to collectively curate bookmarks:
>>>
>>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com
>>>
>>> The way it works is that multiple contributing editors each maintain 
>>> their own TiddlyWiki containing their bookmarks. These wikis are registered 
>>> with the system on GitHub, and then at intervals a script retrieves all the 
>>> links and aggregates them together into a new wiki.
>>>
>>> The above links are to a static rendering to help Google find things, 
>>> but the information is also available in TiddlyWiki format:
>>>
>>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/wiki.html
>>>
>>> It’s easy to set up to be a contributing editor.  The main requirement 
>>> is that bookmarks be kept as tiddlers tagged "$:/tags/Link" with an “url” 
>>> field containing the URL. So, for example, I’m “jermolene”, and all my 
>>> links are to be found at:
>>>
>>> https://links.tiddlywiki.com/contributors/jermolene/
>>>
>>> My bookmarking wiki is here:
>>>
>>> https://jermolene-links.tiddlyhost.com
>>>
>>> If enough people volunteer to be contributing editors, we can spread the 
>>> workload and make something much more valuable than any of us could do 
>>> individually. I’d be happy if we had a handful of contributing link editors 
>>> making high quality bookmarks, but I think this system could be scaled to 
>>> at least a few hundred.
>>>
>>> If you’re interested, please reply here with the URL of your bookmarking 
>>> wiki and your choice of username.
>>>
>>> As ever, there’s a lot to do on the development side to take this 
>>> forward:
>>>
>>> * Improving the styling (consider the current colour scheme and styling 
>>> to be a placeholder!)
>>> * Adding JavaScript-based interactivity (particularly search)
>>> * Adding support for multiple languages
>>> * Adding an RSS/Atom feed
>>>
>>> The development has required setting up another GitHub organisation in 
>>> order to get another GitHub Pages site:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/TiddlyWikiLinks/TiddlyWikiLinks
>>>
>>> (For those with long memories, this is, of course, a variation of the 
>>> "TWederation" archiecture we have discussed as a community for a long time).
>>>
>>> I’ve been able to put this together in a few days thanks to all that 
>>> I’ve learned on my recent client 

[tw5] Re: What about data integrity? (And hi, I'm new!)

2021-03-22 Thread Mat
David Archer wrote:

> Is my essential data (the tiddlers, their content and their links) still 
> safe? I.e., is it transferrable to another TW file?
>

Data content and links are still safe and transferrable, yes. Plugins or 
other *code *that is not part of the core, especially things that are not 
developed by the core team, might depend on other code so it can be that 
they don't function properly. But that is not your *data*. Further, because 
this is just a html file, your data is actually possible to read in plain 
text. It is surrounded by html, but it's there and it's extractable. It is 
probably one of the safest solutions around in this regard.

<:-)


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[tw5] Re: What about data integrity? (And hi, I'm new!)

2021-03-22 Thread Ste
Yes.

Your essential data would be just fine.  Stroll drift etc do amazing and 
clever things with layout and with your tiddlers, but they don't 
fundamentally change your wiki.  Obviously if you moved your stuff to an 
empty wiki you would lose some of the functions you have with drift/ stroll 
and any other tweaks you have made but your tiddelrs would all be present 
and correct.

On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 03:31:46 UTC David Archer wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> After a long, very interesting journey to search for the best way to 
> gather my thoughts as I continue a lifelong vocation, I'm a new TiddlyWiki 
> user. I've been using TW5 for about a month with a local file.
>
> Now I want to create a new TW as a static site online to do some work and 
> unfinished writing in public. I want the layout to be more intuitive to 
> those who aren't wikiers, so I've been looking at Drift, which I've seen 
> mentioned here. 
>
> Whatever the theme or plugins used, I want this wiki to last forever. 
>
> But I'm not a programmer. 
>
> Let's say I use Drift (or Stroll or any other modded version) to start 
> this up. Then I build a large body of work, say 100s of tiddlers all 
> cross-linked beautifully. I backup my site regularly, and everything's 
> great. And then for some reason I find I need to change to another version 
> of TW, or remove plugins, etc. Is my essential data (the tiddlers, their 
> content and their links) still safe? I.e., is it transferrable to another 
> TW file?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts about this. And mega credit goes to the Ness Labs 
> blog and Anne-Laure Le Cunff for getting me started.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Announcing the TiddlyWiki Community Links Aggregator

2021-03-22 Thread Jeremy Ruston
> Sorry if I missed something about this, but it looks as if automatic linking 
> of CamelCase is causing some dead links (for example TiddlyWiki in the 
> example tiddlers).

Ouch, thank you, I’ve made an issue here:

https://github.com/TiddlyWikiLinks/TiddlyWikiLinks/issues/5 


Many thanks,

Jeremy

> 
> Best wishes,
> Chris
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 6:24:27 PM UTC-4 Mat wrote:
> Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> [...] polite to make it as small as possible.
> [...] your workflow as smooth as possible so that you've got every incentive 
> to keep posting the links...
> 
> Definitely a disconnect there.
> I've previously experimented with savers that save to two places, using 
> different saving filters. So I use my everyday wiki and click save, seemingly 
> as normal. In reality, a copy is saved to another instance but the save 
> filter filters out everything but the tiddlers tagged $:/tags/Link. The 
> aggregator fetches from this wiki only. (BTW, such a multi-saver is pretty 
> cool in itself; you could have one central wiki to publish niche content to 
> multiple niche wikis.)
> 
> BTW, fellow tiddleur Erwan deserves some cred for this concept. More so than 
> the mention of TWederation. He designed a "community plugin aggregator" many 
> suns ago. 
> 
> <:-)
> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Savers that save to two places, using different saving filters

2021-03-22 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Thanks Mat!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:28 AM Mat  wrote:

> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/1S348N3rsAc/m/rbXjCZRB9HYJ
>
> <:-)
>
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 5:40:43 AM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Mat in another thread wrot
>>
>>
>> I've previously experimented with savers that save to two places, using
>>> different saving filters. So I use my everyday wiki and click save,
>>> seemingly as normal. In reality, a copy is saved to another instance but
>>> the save filter filters out everything but the tiddlers tagged
>>> $:/tags/Link. The aggregator fetches from this wiki only. (BTW, such a
>>> multi-saver is pretty cool in itself; you could have one central wiki to
>>> publish niche content to multiple niche wikis.)
>>>
>>>
>> This is a very interesting approach, I appreciate it if you kindly
>> explain this in more details or share links to possible resources.
>>
>>
>>
>>> BTW, fellow tiddleur Erwan deserves some cred for this concept. More so
>>> than the mention of TWederation. He designed a "community plugin
>>> aggregator" many suns ago.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Notes on Shiraz ...

2021-03-22 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi History Buff,
 A nice example you provided. I will add this to Shiraz documentation.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 2:54 AM History Buff 
wrote:

> Springer,
>
> I've used transclusion and a ViewTemplate to successfully add dynamic
> tables to every tiddler tagged with a certain tag. It's worked extremely
> well for me so far. Is this kind of what you were talking about?
>
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 2:29:24 PM UTC-7 springer wrote:
>
>> Mohammad, a ViewTemplate add-in (with simple dynamic table for items
>> tagged-here) would be awesome!  Basically, I end up copy-pasting a basic
>> dynamic table into virtually every tiddler whose only role is to serve as a
>> parent/overview dashboard for its tagged underlings.
>>
>> Another "stretch" task would stretch dynamic tables to work with an
>> input-oriented filter: Say, there's an input box where if students enter
>> their initials, all tiddlers where those initials are listed (in list
>> field) would show up. (For me, this is better than creating a separate
>> tiddler for each student for felt-privacy reasons (plus my own laziness
>> with many students); it's better if they can "call up" their own data by
>> entering initials in an input field, without having an easy way to feel
>> like everyone's data is for easy viewing; I understand that if the data is
>> "in there" a savvy student can find it.) I started tinkering with this
>> task, and then realized it was not going to be quick.
>>
>> In general, I'm struggling a bit with whether and how I can feed
>> variables into a dynamic table macro; I can force a column header to
>> display a string like "next_level" (using tobibeer's setvars, or even by
>> inserting {{!!custom}} in the field list and setting that field up with
>> next_level), BUT the column won't actually show the next_level field
>> contents for the tiddler rows. Perhaps it's generally true of any <>
>> that it's hard to get the guts of the macro to work with anything that
>> requires calculation from outside the macro? Or else I'm just missing some
>> insight about how to inject a desired variable into the dynamic tables'
>> macro syntax.
>>
>> -Springer
>>
>> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Springer,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:58 PM springer  wrote:
>>>
 Absolutely, dynamic tables are a game-changer. I'm not *exactly* a
 beginner, but I appreciate that Shiraz (and also the utility plugin) saves
 me from certain learning curves so that I can focus on other ones.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you and very proud to hear Shiraz is a game changer!
>>>

 Today's possible-because-of-Shiraz challenge: figure out how to
 configure a tiddler (tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate) such that:

 For each tiddler, if it currently has no content in body but has stuff
 tagged to it, THEN I see a dynamic table with rows for its "children" and
 columns for title, caption, plus any other fields mentioned in its
 "columns" field. (Or, a variation: Any tiddler with children gets such a
 ViewTemplate component at bottom, but it's regularly tucked into a compact
 details-type dropdown.)


>>> So, do you like to have such a viewTemplate or you have already one and
>>> you use it now?
>>> If you like I can make one for you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
 :)

 -Springer

 On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 4:07:13 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Shiraz  is a great plugin!!!
>
> It practically helps beginners with IN-Tiddler tools of large range &
> utility. ++
>
> It raises some issues that i think are interesting about how to handle
> CSS.
>
> But before I get into that I'd be interested in IF others found it
> useful too??
>
> TT
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Notes on Shiraz ...

2021-03-22 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Springer,

Yes, the filter is a rather complex one, but the idea of having dynamically
create contents is great!
I submit a ticket on GitHub and will go through it to create an example for
this!

See https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/discussions/20 and feel free to add
more explanations.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 1:59 AM springer  wrote:

> Mohammad, a ViewTemplate add-in (with simple dynamic table for items
> tagged-here) would be awesome!  Basically, I end up copy-pasting a basic
> dynamic table into virtually every tiddler whose only role is to serve as a
> parent/overview dashboard for its tagged underlings.
>
> Another "stretch" task would stretch dynamic tables to work with an
> input-oriented filter: Say, there's an input box where if students enter
> their initials, all tiddlers where those initials are listed (in list
> field) would show up. (For me, this is better than creating a separate
> tiddler for each student for felt-privacy reasons (plus my own laziness
> with many students); it's better if they can "call up" their own data by
> entering initials in an input field, without having an easy way to feel
> like everyone's data is for easy viewing; I understand that if the data is
> "in there" a savvy student can find it.) I started tinkering with this
> task, and then realized it was not going to be quick.
>
> In general, I'm struggling a bit with whether and how I can feed variables
> into a dynamic table macro; I can force a column header to display a string
> like "next_level" (using tobibeer's setvars, or even by inserting
> {{!!custom}} in the field list and setting that field up with next_level),
> BUT the column won't actually show the next_level field contents for the
> tiddler rows. Perhaps it's generally true of any <> that it's hard
> to get the guts of the macro to work with anything that requires
> calculation from outside the macro? Or else I'm just missing some insight
> about how to inject a desired variable into the dynamic tables' macro
> syntax.
>
> -Springer
>
> On Thursday, March 18, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Springer,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:58 PM springer  wrote:
>>
>>> Absolutely, dynamic tables are a game-changer. I'm not *exactly* a
>>> beginner, but I appreciate that Shiraz (and also the utility plugin) saves
>>> me from certain learning curves so that I can focus on other ones.
>>
>>
>> Thank you and very proud to hear Shiraz is a game changer!
>>
>>>
>>> Today's possible-because-of-Shiraz challenge: figure out how to
>>> configure a tiddler (tagged with $:/tags/ViewTemplate) such that:
>>>
>>> For each tiddler, if it currently has no content in body but has stuff
>>> tagged to it, THEN I see a dynamic table with rows for its "children" and
>>> columns for title, caption, plus any other fields mentioned in its
>>> "columns" field. (Or, a variation: Any tiddler with children gets such a
>>> ViewTemplate component at bottom, but it's regularly tucked into a compact
>>> details-type dropdown.)
>>>
>>>
>> So, do you like to have such a viewTemplate or you have already one and
>> you use it now?
>> If you like I can make one for you!
>>
>>
>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> -Springer
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 4:07:13 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
 Shiraz  is a great plugin!!!

 It practically helps beginners with IN-Tiddler tools of large range &
 utility. ++

 It raises some issues that i think are interesting about how to handle
 CSS.

 But before I get into that I'd be interested in IF others found it
 useful too??

 TT


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